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Re: May IVF

  • ttcndcttcndc member
    @cmiller73  You have great fertilization rates.  I am sending hope your way that you get many 5 day blasts :smiley:
    Me: 34 DH: 28
    FSH/LH - 7.6/7.16
    AMH - 0.867
    IVF #1 - Scheduled for May 2017
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  • @ttcndc :) thanks...this cycle went well!  It was weird, but it worked well!
  • Hi all. I took a bump break when I was on the pill b/c I was trying to forget about it all to make the time pass. Hope to be back more regularly. Glad to see so many people starting stims. Yay things progressing! I hope you are all feeling ok physically, emotionally, etc.

    Some of the stories of what you guys have gone through, whew!  @2MomsHoping, I can't even imagine hearing that the cycle I was in the middle of is actually going to be $10k more than I thought. That would test my emotional stability during a normal time, and if I was on stims, yikes. You are very strong and I'm glad you are continuing with it.

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    @MMD1986, your meds getting lost? Geez, can't anything be easy?? Good to know the ice packs are actually good for 72 hours. And @littledarlins, they shipped you packaging with no medicine in it?? yikes. Its amazing all the things that can go wrong.

    As for me, I am currently worried because tomorrow AM is my baseline ultrasound, but the problem is I have not started my period. AF usually comes pretty regularly 2 or 3 days after the last BCP, but its been over 4 days and no sign. Normally one would just delay the baseline and the starting stims (was supposed to be Sat) until AF actually arrives, but this calendar was all planned and I have been on lupron the last 5 days as part of this new protocol. It sounds like if they have to delay stims more than a day, the balance of lupron vs stims will be off and I will be overly-suppressed and that will be bad for this cycle (but no specifics about how bad. Cancelling the cycle bad?). Anyways, sorry to ramble. Has anyone had AF messed up due to lupron? I'm just on 10 IU per night. My nurse specifically said lupron will not affect AF. Also, has anyone ended up being on lupron for longer than they thought, and things worked out  (as far as being able to complete a cycle)? Well, I guess I'll know more at my (not)-baseline US/blood work tomorrow.

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • Hi ladies! Since there are so many familiar gals I figured I'll join the stemming party since I was able to get started on IVF #6 whoah!!  I honestly never thought I'd be doing this many cycles from when I first started this process.  Everything about me is below.

    TTC naturally for prob 2yrs before I even knew I had Low AMH and I needed help ASAP!  IUIs were a waste of time and wish I didn't bother.  IVF did give me hope. *TW* Once I made it to ER in cycle 3 I was very fortunate to get my first ever BFP with only 3 ER and fert I was pregnant with twins and then lost both at 10wks in Jan, worst experience of my life.*TW*  It was hard but I literally wanted to be pregnant again right away!!  The loss is still unexplained as I was caring a normal embryo as it was tested after.  I really wasnt for PGS testing but now I need to as I'm 41 and time truly is no longer on my side.  I look at the time I wasted possible good eggs during the months I did IUIs.   This process has been hard and many ladies here are warriors!!  My first cycle back I had a great response and got 10 eggs, 7 fert and 3 blasts to test.  I was thrilled and then heartbroken all were abnormal.  SO wrecked I was and the results came while I was stemming for the second cycle I was banking.  (someone screwed up somewhere)  OH wanted me to stop the cycle but I kept on.  I always believe that if my body is ready then I have to keep going.  April ER 7 and 7 fert, 6 blasts to test, i was over the moon.  I just found out 2 normies of the 6 made it yay!  I can make a normie!!  Wish there was more so i could get back to being pregnant but since the previous cycle was a bust in the end we need some security and will continue the banking process.  I've been all OOP from the beginning so each decision is so hard to make but trying to pull things together and make it work!  I've never maxed out so many credit cards at once!!

    May is mothers day so what better month for us all to have some success.  Love seeing other AMA ladies killing it!!  @cmiller73 so excited for your update coming!!!

    Good luck to all the first timers I know all the mixing and injections are confusing, but I bet by day 3 you'll all be pros.  Good luck everyone!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • Hey guys, I'm joining in here. I haven't read through the whole thread yet but I am rooting for you all.

    I'm 34.9 (funny how infertility gets us putting decimal points on our ages - I've never felt so old in my life!!), DH is 33. IVF #1, unexplained, TTC 2 years, no luck conceiving and no idea what's wrong. My hope is that at least we learn more about what's going on. 

    @daisy222-2 - I was reading online about not getting one's period while on Lupron. From what I read, it happens 10% of the time, and supposedly isn't a big deal? My internet search could be wrong though. Fingers crossed that AF shows up!! (What is up with that lady!!??! Never there when you need her...)

    I'm doing a low dose luteal lupron protocol, which many of you are also doing (where you start lupron at the end of the prior cycle and continue it during stims). I was also on OCPs the prior month. 
    Me - 35 (DH - 33). 
    TTC since May 2015.
    Saw RE in July 2016.
    11/16: IUI #1=  BFN.
    1/17: IUI #2 = BFN.
    5/17: IVF #1. 'long lupron' protocol. E2 = 4800, 'freeze-all', 8R, 7M, 4F, 4B.
    8/17: FET #1.
    Thus far - 'unexplained'.
  • @Hopeful_mom Yay for two normals!

    @daisy222-2  Actually, my baselines with this RE have been (5 days and 3 days respectively) before my period started.  Last cycle when I was waiting for AF to start stims, she was a few days later than I expected.  I had my first 31-day cycle (usually 27-29 days, with a couple of 30-day ones last year).  She showed up on time to start per my calendar, but I was really annoyed and blamed the lupron.

    AFM, I FINALLY got a +opk (a good 4-5 days later than expected), will confirm progesterone next Wednesday, probably start luteal lupron next Thursday, and have my baseline u/s scheduled for 5/19 (with period expected that weekend).  I have to say that I actually prefer the lupron shots to OCP for suppression - I had really bad thoughts on the birth control pill...
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

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    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • immietimmiet member
    ttcndc said:
    @immiet I think I will be on the short Lupron protocol too based on what I've read and what my doctor sent me.  I've heard that it can over-suppress you.  I will be on BCPs for two weeks starting around May 9th depending on when I come on my cycle.  I have low AMH and I hope and pray that I am not over-suppressed.
    I'll be thinking of you! 
  • immietimmiet member
    Hi all. I took a bump break when I was on the pill b/c I was trying to forget about it all to make the time pass. Hope to be back more regularly. Glad to see so many people starting stims. Yay things progressing! I hope you are all feeling ok physically, emotionally, etc.

    Some of the stories of what you guys have gone through, whew!  @2MomsHoping, I can't even imagine hearing that the cycle I was in the middle of is actually going to be $10k more than I thought. That would test my emotional stability during a normal time, and if I was on stims, yikes. You are very strong and I'm glad you are continuing with it.

    And @MMD1986, your meds getting lost? Geez, can't anything be easy?? Good to know the ice packs are actually good for 72 hours. And @littledarlins, they shipped you packaging with no medicine in it?? yikes. Its amazing all the things that can go wrong.

    As for me, I am currently worried because tomorrow AM is my baseline ultrasound, but the problem is I have not started my period. AF usually comes pretty regularly 2 or 3 days after the last BCP, but its been over 4 days and no sign. Normally one would just delay the baseline and the starting stims (was supposed to be Sat) until AF actually arrives, but this calendar was all planned and I have been on lupron the last 5 days as part of this new protocol. It sounds like if they have to delay stims more than a day, the balance of lupron vs stims will be off and I will be overly-suppressed and that will be bad for this cycle (but no specifics about how bad. Cancelling the cycle bad?). Anyways, sorry to ramble. Has anyone had AF messed up due to lupron? I'm just on 10 IU per night. My nurse specifically said lupron will not affect AF. Also, has anyone ended up being on lupron for longer than they thought, and things worked out  (as far as being able to complete a cycle)? Well, I guess I'll know more at my (not)-baseline US/blood work tomorrow.
    I am currently on cd 39 and I definitely think that it has to do with lupron. I was over supressed and our cycle got cancelled midway. Hopefully AF comes for you soon!!!
  • immietimmiet member
    Update from yesterday's doctor's appointment. The blood work came back that I had not ovulated yet and the ultrasound showed two large follies and optimum lining, whatever that means.  Maybe tmi, but my breasts have been sore for almost a week and three days ago my nipples were so sensitive. They hurt when the shower water hit them! I usually do not get breast tenderness, it's rare during ovulation for me. Some months I may get that, but usually not. The doctor said I should be ovulating soon. The test strip last night showed a first ever dark line, but it still wasn't as dark as the test line so I don't know. DH and I BD last night and previous night hoping maybe we can get lucky and have to avoid another cycle. (Our issue is my low ovarian reserve.) 

  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    edited May 2017
    And @MMD1986, your meds getting lost? Geez, can't anything be easy?? Good to know the ice packs are actually good for 72 hours. And @littledarlins, they shipped you packaging with no medicine in it?? yikes. Its amazing all the things that can go wrong. 

    Girl, I swear sometimes it feels like everything that can go wrong does.  There are just so many unknowns, I feel like we are all bound to hit a few bumps along this infertility journey.  How did your ultrasound/bloodwork go today?

    Does anyone have any fun plans for the weekend?
  • @MMD1986.  I would be freaking out with a delayed medication.  I’m hoping everything turned out alright.  I guess IVF is stressful and we all have to try to keep it together during these bumps in the road.  

    @cmiller73.  14 fertilized is a great number.  I’ll be keeping my fingers grossed for you that you will get a great day 5 report.  I also going to do PGS testing this time around.  I’m very nervous about it.  I’m glad we wont waste our time on transfers that have little to no chance but I’ll be sad if I don’t have anything to transfer.

    AFM:  Things are going along well enough.  I have no clue how many follicles I have.  They don’t tell me and I don’t ask.  I think its a good technique to keep me from obsessing.  I’m still doing my stims but after my ultrasound today they said they are likely to have me trigger tomorrow.  Even with the financial blows this cycle has been practically stress free compared to my last IVF.  I feel very supported by my care team.  My home has been peaceful and I think I’m just ready for the universe to give me what its going to give me.  I'm ready to have closure to this chapter in my life.  

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    Quick question for those who have done the microdose Lupron. I took my last BCP on 5/1, started microdose Lupron on 5/4 twice a day and started Follistim this morning. I'm now feeling cramping and am spotting so I feel like AF is coming.  I'm thinking this is not normal, but my doctors office doesn't open until Monday so I can't call in to ask. 
  • Got the call!  Triggering tonight, retrieval on Monday :)

    @MMD1986  I've never done the microdose of Lupron but that doesn't sound normal to me.  If you office doesn't have an after-hours nurse line to call maybe you could call in to your pharmacy and talk to a pharmacist to see if it is a normal side effect.  Hope everything turns out ok for you.
    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • 2MomsHoping how exciting!!  good luck with the trigger, always exciting to get to the last shot!!

    @MMD1986 only time i did microdose was when i already had AF.   Once you stop bcp isn't AF suppose to come?  I'm suppressed enough so I skip the bcp.  Hope you can get some answers from the pharmacist!  Your office doesn't have an answering service over the weekend?
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    @hopeful_mom the more I thought about it I agree AF should start after you finish birth control. For some reason I thought the Lupron would stop AF from coming, but last month even though it was a different protocol, I got AF after stopping BC on regular Lupron right before starting my stims. So maybe that was the intent and the nurse never told me to expect it. 

    @2MomsHoping good luck with the trigger tonight!
  • immietimmiet member
    MMD1986 said:
    Quick question for those who have done the microdose Lupron. I took my last BCP on 5/1, started microdose Lupron on 5/4 twice a day and started Follistim this morning. I'm now feeling cramping and am spotting so I feel like AF is coming.  I'm thinking this is not normal, but my doctors office doesn't open until Monday so I can't call in to ask. 
    Don't fret...It should be normal. You stopped BC so AF should be coming. I started lupron on March 26, and on march 28, AF came. I freaked out too but thankfully the nurse said it was perfectly normal. Hopefully this helped. 
  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    Thanks @immiet! That does help and makes sense once I thought about it. I just wasn't expecting it since my nurse didn't mention it to me and was afraid I would get cancelled again. 
  • Stopped BCP and waiting for AF now. 
  • cmiller73cmiller73 member
    edited May 2017
    @2MomsHoping isn't getting the ok to trigger the best?!? It's amazing how much we push to start stims then by day 10-12 are like "ENOUGH ALREADY" haha. I go to Brigham & Women's in Boston and they have this amazing quilt that a nurse made that depicts each step of an IVF cycle and each panel is amazing. But my husband pointed at one panel and was like, "what the heck is that? Did she just give up on that one, there's like just a bunch of pins" I had to tell him that it was a torso being used as a pin cushion which is what stimming feels like :D FX for a smooth and happy retrieval tomorrow. Looking forward to your update!! :) 

    AFM: Well, looks like one of my nurses could not hold back checking my digital chart and saw my freeze report  and she called at 745am this morning LOL! She seems super invested in our success which is one reason I just adore my team. Sooooooo...looks like they froze 3 on day 5 and 3 more on day 6! So between both cycles we have 7 embabies for PGS. Now to wait for AF and results and to see what next steps are. 

    Question though, I have never EVER been on BCP. It makes me a bit nervous to think about jumping on it now at 43 but...has anyone gone into prepping for FET without BCP?  I guess tomorrow they will talk about timing and stuff? I am feeling like I could start AF in the next day or so... and I'm guessing the PGS wait will begin technically tomorrow. 
  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    @cmiller73 you should take a picture of the quilt to show us.  How long until you find out the results of your PGS testing? 
  • Hopeful_momHopeful_mom member
    edited May 2017
    @cmiller73 yay awesome update so happy for u!!  did they say how long the results would take?  Its great having a team thats with you all the way, why I love the nurses by me too!!  How many were you hoping to bank?  I was in the same boat i know its hard wrapping ur head around whats next.  For me my RE wouldnt use BCP since I have low AMH so when prepping for an FET I would go straight to estrace.  My RE said it was up to me if I wanted to start prepping for an FET or do another ivf cycle. Quilt sounds lovely - yes take a pic!!

    @2MomsHoping best of luck on your transfer, hope you have plans to relax the rest of the day!

    AFM: Baseline was today even though its day 3 and everything is so small the tech didnt measure anything and maybe said 3 are growing right now SO hoping in the next 2 days we get some action over here...I'm gonna try not to stress cause it wont help.  Last night I got so involved with things i forgot to take my meds at the same time and was a 1/2hr late...amazing how ur waiting and waiting and then forget when its time!  I feel like last time by this day i already had follies showing and that could be from the estrogen UGH!!  I'm mad at myself for not even thinking about the estrogen priming, I was all wrapped up with the PGS results.
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • @Hopeful_mom @MMD1986 the lab we send to is in NJ (? from what I remember at the beginning of this whole wild ride in January) and they give the typical "takes about 2 weeks to get results" timeframe as everyone else seems to... I am thinking the 'under-promise speed so you can always get back to people quicker than expected' motto holds true since everyone seems to get their results quicker than expected.  I call the RE tomorrow to talk next steps and we will take it from there.  

    I started spotting today so I am sure AF will show tonight or tomorrow.  Hubby surprised me with a mini-escape Saturday & Sunday.  Of course I called the RE Saturday to make sure off meds I could go a little wild: oysters and wine at my favorite raw bar, sushi, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 at the brew and view, and today we had brunch and a couples relaxation massage.  Let me tell you, it was AWESOME after all of the chaos of back to back cycles.  Getting the surprise call this morning capped it off.  Now to send out positive vibes for good results! :D
  • Thanks everyone who talked about your own experiences with long cycles while on lupron! I don't know if that contributed to what is going on, but it does seem that lupron can certainly affect AF/cycle length (in contradiction to what my nurse said).

    So my weird cycle got weirder. In my last post, I said my post-BCP period was several days late already). At my baseline US on Fri, they saw a large cyst on my L ovary (~5 cm), that wasn't there a few weeks ago, which could explain the no period (despite a  thick lining). Then my blood tests (estr & prog levels) showed that I ovulated through the pill. The nurse says it happens, and also that this explains the cyst (something about how when your body is trying to ovulate yet the pill is trying really hard to suppress that, it can result in the compromise being cysts (?). I don't know. The internet says that if women ovulate on the pill, its because they didn't take it regularly or at the same time every day. I SWEAR that I took it at the same time every day. If there's one thing we all are good at, its taking medicine as directed and on a schedule, right?

    Sigh. So they sent me home to wait for a period, saying it could be a week or more. Said to stop taking the lupron and dex I have been on. Said its too early to talk about if the calendar is shifted just a few days or a few weeks or a full month. But then - miraculously - AF came today (!!). I woke DH up early this AM to tell him the glorious news. This whole process is making me nutty. I'll call tomorrow and see what the next step is. I suspect they'll have to check on the cyst before any talk of stims.

    artemis618 That is interesting about your baseline's being several days before your period. Isn't it an entirely different follicle situation at that point? But I guess they can do the cyst check still.

    immiet 2 follies and thick lining, woohoo! It would be amazing if the May IVF thread got a sex baby;)

    2MomsHoping I need to be more like you, you seem so serene and peaceful about all this! Like, the opposite of me. Interesting that they don't tell you how many follies. You are right that its nice in a way not to know, because you can't do anything with that # either way. GL and fingers crossed for your retrieval tomorrow. So exciting!!!

    @MMD1986 Hope things are ok. I hear you about being worried if things don't proceed as you planned or expected. I asked my nurse more than once if and when my period would come on the lupron. It seems weird that medicine you are taking to suppress follicle growth (at least I think that's what it does?) would not affect your period.

    cmiller73  7 to send to PGS is outstanding, congrats! EXTREMELY JEALOUS of your weekend.  I have at least been having wine with dinner since I am in weird limbo right now.

    Hopeful_mom I think 30 mins late is no big deal! My clinic says plus or minus an hour is fine. (So if my usual time is 7 pm, anytime between 6 and 8 is fine). When is your next US?

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • cmiller73cmiller73 member
    edited May 2017
    @daisy222-2 YAY for AF (ridiculous we cheer for her while going through IVF but...) and FX on the cyst not setting you back any time! 
  • @daisy222-2 YAY for AF I echo what cmiller73 said ;)  I do hope the cyst resolves itself, being benched sucks.  I had a cyst one cycle during my IUI and I still pushed through when I really shouldn't have.  We have to listen to our bodies!  Hope shes working with you in ur follow up!  I have my next US on tuesday...I'm a lil nervous as usually i have some follies from the beginning i'm not expecting a whole bunch to pop up in just 2 days, so we shall see.

    cmiller73 so glad to hear u enjoyed yourself!  U did it right!!  I should have OH read your up date so he has a better clue how others get it ;)  I'm lucky he takes me home after my ER.  Hopefully ur results will come in sooner then later, I think every place says 2weeks to give them the space but i was pretty surprised with the turn around, I feel like i had answers in 5 business days...I was pleasantly surprised!
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • artemis618artemis618 member
    edited May 2017
    @daisy222-2 Hmm...I guess I never really thought about it - in my case my follicle count never really changed much - first cycle started with 9 and got 7 mature eggs (of 12 retrieved) and second I started with 8 and got 8 mature (of 10 retrieved), so in my case at least (in my AMA)...I guess it's not so different (edit:  but also we expected my period a couple of days earlier for round 2).  Glad AF came through for you and hope the cyst goes away.

    @cmiller73 Yay for your seven!  Somehow I had my embryos from last cycle biopsied on a Friday (4 earlier in the day and 2 more I guess in later in the afternoon about which I didn't even know till I got my results), and got my results the following Monday (so 3 calendar days or the next business day).  I was told I'd hear back within a week though.  FX for you!
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

    -----
    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

    Lilypie Maternity tickers
  • immietimmiet member
    @daisy222-2, that is our hope that we can have a sex baby and avoid another round. I finally got a positive opk line on cinco de mayo so we BD like rabbits! Now I'm wishing AF is staying away. My next bloodwork is this Friday. 
  • Ugh the cyst is still there. And it grew! (slightly). This is so frustrating. I had turned down a really great work trip in a few weeks because it was supposed to be during my ER and fresh transfer. And I had to say no to a few other small opportunities. And all for nothing.

    I feel like maybe all of this (something is wrong EVERY time) is a sign that this is just not meant to be. I know I don't really mean that, I'm just feeling really down, and it is gray and rainy, and DH said something along these lines yesterday. I know people have tried way harder for way longer, and I am being a giant whiner.

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • Hi All, mind if I join? Not sure if I'm going to be actively starting drugs (for IVF :P) this month or next, but I wanted to introduce myself here since I'm sure there will be some overlap between this board and the June board. We're sitting down with our RE next week, and want to move forward with IVF (at least the retrieval) as soon as possible. 

    I'm 32 & DH is 34. We have been TTC #1 since November 2015, are unexplained and are just coming off our 3rd failed IUI. My AMH is 1.43 so a little low, but nothing to be too concerned about - and I've responded well to the clomid.

    Anyway, looking forward to getting to know you all! These boards have been such a great support for me, and I'm so glad that you're all here. :)

    @daisy222-2 - that cyst would be super frustrating. :( I don't think you're being a giant whiner, I think this is an awful hard thing - especially after a CP and cancelled round. Ugh. Anyway, sending you a big hug - that cyst growing is total bullsh*t.
  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    @daisy222-2 sorry your cyst is still there. Those things sure are a pain!  I know how frustrating it can be when it feels like every single time you see your doctor something is wrong.  I'm all for allowing a day to whine and sulk (especially in gloomy weather), its ok to be frustrated/mad/sad!  Treat yourself to a nice dinner or something to help feel better!  Hopefully that pesky cyst goes away soon.

    @aligoodmorning1 21 eggs is great! Hope you are feeling ok after!

    @funkykey welome! Good luck with your appointment next week!  Hopefully they can get your started quickly on IVF.
  • daisy222-2 ugh sorry to hear the cyst is being so stubborn and not cooperating!!  I know its really frustrating and you have every right to be upset/mad and everything negative under the sun!!  We all go through similar things and its our anger talking.  Your hubby is venting too, its all allowed, better to get it out and let it pass then to keep it all in!  It screws everything up i know BUT maybe this is just your body letting you know they need a lil more time before preparing a home for your embaby for the next 9 months!  
    I'm a freelancer and have also missed opportunities do to the IVF fun but try to remember lets hope its only temporary!! 

    @aligoodmorning1 whoah that is awesome, congrats!! Are you planning a fresh or frozen transfer?  Excited for your next update!

    funkykey sorry the IUI's didn't work and you find yourself here!  Hopefully it'll be a short stay for you, good luck with your appt!

    AFM: The highlight of my day was my monitoring this am where she saw some measurable follies today yay!!  Just praying they all keep growing together!!  She saw 2 on the right and 4 on the left all ranging from 8 - 10.5...so really hoping they can all stay in the game!!  I dont' know about any of you but I've been overly emotional this week, I know the hormones play a roll but I feel like this cycle is even worse!!!  
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • Thanks for the consolation and for putting up with my pity party, everyone.

    I have an update: my estrogen was low which I guess means the cyst can be popped ("aspirated")! This is happening tomorrow. Anyone have any experience with this? They said its mildly uncomfortable but quick, and to take 800 mg ibuprofen.

    Then the plan is to start stims on Thurs!  I am on the fence about all of this.  I am excited to start stims and actually feel like I am getting somewhere, but I sortof feel like they are pushing this cycle to happen right now even though a lot of stuff seems non-ideal. (late period, cyst, I stopped the lupron for 3 days when we weren't sure what was going on so the calendar/protocol is weird now). But, I guess I have to trust them and if they say its a go, then we do it.

    Hopeful_mom yay, good news that there are so many growing together!

    hey
    @funkykey . I hope that things can move quickly and you can get a calendar put together soon. You've already had most if not all of the required IVF testing from the IUIs, probably? The only extra procedure I had to have was a hysteroscopy and a bullshit "IVF physical".

    aligoodmorning1  woohoo, super high #! Congrats!  when is your next update from the clinic/embryologist?

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • @2MomsHoping Great news!! Are they going to give you updates daily or just after 5 days? I forget if you mentioned this already, but are you doing a fresh transfer this time?

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • @2MomsHoping that is great!  8 out of 9 is awesome.  


    @daisy222-2 maybe the irregularity of everything now will actually do the trick.  I met a lady who couldn't get pregnant, and so she finally decided to look into adoption.  She goes on the pill, and then she gets pregnant.  So the second time around when she wanted to have another baby, she just got on the pill again, and she got pregnant again.  amazing!


    me: 47, single, Known Donor/good friend
    Egg Retrieval 2013 , later unsuccessful thaw and fertilization. starting from the beginning.
    mini IVF, this March, 1 Happy Embryo in the freezer
    Mini IVF May, ER on the 19th
  • @littledarlins   Thats crazy! Hah!  But that's what I'm sortof figuring. Waiting until everything is perfect in every way is clearly not an option, since I've had years of cycles that are "fine" (that have obv not not worked), so might as well go for it with this wonky one.

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • MMD1986MMD1986 member
    I went in for ultrasound and blood work today. I have 6 follicles. So much better than the 1 I had last time. Nurse said to continue my stims at the same dose and come back Friday to see how things are progressing. Hopefully everything keeps growing nicely and we can have 6 perfect follicles for retrieval. 
  • I wont get any updates until Day 5.  We are going to do PGS so everything will be frozen.  We plan to do a transfer in June provided we get some PGS normals (fingers crossed).  

    @MMD1986 congrats on your 6 hope they keep growing together for you :)

    Me:38 DW:33 
    TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned 
    Dx: My wife has no sperm  :D and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look
    2016

     * April IUI#1 - BFN
     * June IUI#2 - BFN
     * July IUI#3 - CP  :'(
     * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts.  Fresh Transfer 1  - CP  :'(
     * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP  :'(
    2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
     * April/May IVF#2:  9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts!  Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
     * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
     * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
    2018 DD born 8/20/18
    2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
      * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7  Beta#2: 322.6

  • The cyst aspiration was only a little unpleasant.  The needle was 2 feet long, and I am not even exaggerating. It was sortof cool to watch the thing w/ ultrasound, it just shriveled up as they withdrew the fluid. (I guess that's pretty gross).

    Starting stims tomorrow AM! Thank goodness! The only real change this cycle is the addition of Lupron and doing smaller doses of Menopur (1 vial instead of 2). Also Follistim instead of Gonal-F, because my nurse gave it to me for free (I know these are the same, but Follistim seems more complicated; the Gonal-F pen was so easy).  I hope this combination will work. First US/labs on Sunday.

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

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