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  • @Marley629 yay for to healthy embryos.

    Girls that want in on the book club. Aren't there private groups we can start here? NOT trying to discluded anyone but don't want to take over this thread either. 
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  • @laurad75 Thanks and right back atcha  :) Since I've been off the board a few days, you are a few days into your stims for your next ER, correct?
  • Hi @cmiller73.  Yes, tonight is night 6 for stims.  I've been going to monitoring every other day and as of this morning, I have 3 growing follicles.  On Thurs they saw a couple of other small ones but they didn't report them this morning -frustrating.  I  was really hoping this cycle would be more successful.  My ER will probably be sometime next weekend.  

    How are you doing? 
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • @laurad75 Have you grown since baseline? I found that what they report is often based on who the heck was the U/S tech that morning.  Some days I would get good info, others little to none unless I specifically asked the nurse drawing my blood to review my sheet.

    I'm ok, I suppose. Trying to keep my mind busy until I start stimming again.  I test for LH on Wednesday, DH and I meet with RE on Thursday and then once I have surge, count down 10 days til patches and shots begin.  Honestly, I am just killing time til stims.  It's crazy how it takes over your thought process.  I read somewhere that during IVF, work and other things become more like a distraction and though 'no way, not me, can't afford to be distracted' but it is SO true!  I am going through the house and personal preparations for when I get too tired and cranky in a few weeks to even think about doing any of it.

    Keep positive, I was such a slow responder to my first cycle that they thought i would be lucky to have 5 follicles at time of trigger then I just exploded.  Sending good growth vibes your way for the next week to help em along!
  • daisy222-2daisy222-2 member
    edited March 2017
    @MMD1986 good question... Should we just start a new thread called "April IVF book club thread"? Then anyone who wants could join but you wouldn't end up there unless you want to be?  

    Here are some book ideas: (all fiction except the last. I've been wanting to read this one for a while, and I think it would be good discussion.)   Anyone else have any ideas?

    1. https://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-House-Novel-Kathleen-Grissom/dp/1439153663/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1489980076&sr=1-1&keywords=kitchen+house
    2. https://www.amazon.com/Girls-Cline-Emma/dp/1784740454/ref=pd_sbs_14_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=J905430CN2D38PEQSEWV
    3. https://www.amazon.com/American-Girl-Novel-Kate-Horsley/dp/0062438514/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WQJHV2KS33XQXGJ0Q1MB
    4. https://www.amazon.com/So-Youve-Been-Publicly-Shamed/dp/1522609555

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • @cmiller73 Thank you for saying that.  I have 3 good size follicles that have been consistently growing but on my CD 5 appt they said there were 2-4 more smaller ones brewing.  At this appt they didn't say anything about those and just said I had 3 so I was really disappointed.  I go back tomorrow morning and hopefully there will be some activity.  

    I am 100% guilty of allowing this to process to take over my life.  Its so hard when you are just waiting for the next step.  
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • A new thread sounds good to me.
  • @MMD1986 @daisy222 An April IVF book club might be a little exclusive. If you want to keep it to the IF board you can set up a new thread here inviting people to participate to get an idea of interest.  You can set up a poll to decide on the first book.  You can also set up a group separate from the boards and then invite people from other areas of TB.  

    I just started a new book but I may join in at some point. 
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • Lurking***
    @Marley629 hooray for 2 normal embies!! I'm rooting for you next cycle that you can add a few more to that. 
    @laurad75 hugs, i'm sorry today's appointment didn't show those little guys catching up. I'm thinking about you. Fx the three you have are beautiful healthy eggs that will make strong normal embies. 
    *TW*
    TTC 1/2012
    Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
    6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
    TTC #3 5/2016
    Restarted Fertility tx
    IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17

  • Has anyone had a REALLY hard time with their stomach tolerating the Flagyll at the beginning of this process? I'm thinking (although this is my first IVF) that this may be worse than the stims! I'm really sensitive to meds as far as stomach side effects and after my first day of antibiotics yesterday I was up dry heaving all night and am now a zombie at my desk. It's making me doubt I have what it takes to do this, like something's wrong with me or I'm too old for this, but I have like $9k of meds sitting in my dining room so it's not like I'm quitting. Sorry for the Debbie Downer just no sleep last two nights has me in a weird place. Anyone else sometimes feel like this?
  • @Momifbysea Have you talked to your doctor?  I take only 2 or 3 doses total of azithromycin for IVF.  When I've had flagyl/metronidazole, it was in the form of a cream suppository (to cure a vaginal bacterial infection, which is linked to higher rates of miscarriage). 

    If you're taking it for that, maybe they can switch you to a cream.  It doesn't cause tummy trouble.

    Even if that's not the case, they could probably try a different kind, to see if you tolerate it better.  I'd also recommend probiotics.

    I'm so sorry you feel so icky!
    Me- 39 (turning 40 in April), TTC for the first time ever (since Jan 2015), low ovarian reserve
    Married 3/14/14 to my wonderful wife, but her sperm count is rather low
    TTC with frozen donor sperm and science

    7 IUIs, 7 BFNs.
    2 IVF attempts, both cancelled and converted to IUI, both BFNs.
    Decided that my tired old ovaries are ready to retire.
    Next step- reciprocal IVF, using my wife's eggs, my uterus!  
    fresh 5 day transfer (2 embryos) 4/17/17- BFP! 
    Identical twins "due" 1/2/17 (but anticipated arrival sometime December)

  • @KLake42 since posting this earlier, RE office called back and that's exactly what they're doing for me, the vaginal cream. Thank God!!! I am beyond thrilled!
  • Since my transfer is likely in April I'll post here .

    First U/S after day 4 of stims (150 each Menopur and Follistim) . I'm also on Lovenox and Prednisone.

    I had 9 follies on my R ovary but all around 8 or 9. I had 6 on my left ovary but they were even smaller around 6. Lining was 2.8. Estrogen is 352 . Is this ok? I'm thinking number is good but size is small . Thanks! 
  • @brooklyngirl18 glad to see you here, our schedules are really close together! It's going to really get real pretty soon! I have my baseline April 6. We are also doing ICSI, PGS, and FET. You mentioned your FET would probably be in May...I'm curious why my clinic said FET is usually 6-8 weeks after my period starts after ER...doesn't that sound like a long time to wait? I'll ask my RE at my baseline spot since a nurse had told me the 6-8 week figure.
  • @Momifbysea i honestly have no idea, I'm a total newb with all this stuff. My dr said the timeline is usually about 5-6 weeks from starting stims to embryo transfer. I've read some dr's want you to wait an extra cycle in between retrieval and transfer, maybe my dr goes right back in the next cycle without waiting an additional one? I'm sure other ladies on here can explain it way better than me
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • @brooklyngirl18 oh that makes sense about some wanting to wait a cycle I suppose. I'll def ask at my appt.
  • i loved reading all the SO meeting stories! 

    1. How did you and your SO meet? Was it love at first sight?  we met through mutual friends but both had SO already. he actually knew my ex very well, they went to high school together. our best friends were dating each other so we would hang out occasionally and had chemistry but it never went anywhere since we were both taken. after about 2 years, we both found ourselves single and he FINALLY kissed me. i literally said 'it's about time' when he did LOL we've been together ever since. This fall will be 10 years together, 5 married. crazy.

    2. What's your favorite way to spend downtime/alone time?  i love to cook or veg out on the couch.

    3. What's your favorite season and why? the fall is my favorite season. I live in new york and LOVE the crisp cool weather and watching the leaves change color.

    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • Hi all,

    I had my baseline US today, am hopefully going to start stims Friday!

    Unfortunately, things could potentially be on hold b/c they saw either a cyst or a very large follicle (11 mm) on my R ovary. I am CD1, so it seems weird to be a follicle (right?). They also did a blood test, and they said that if the cyst "seems to be producing estrogen" we may have to delay and go back on the pill another month to try to shrink it. UGH.

    My nurse also mentioned that occasionally the Dr can pop the cyst to make it go away. Gross, and also painful sounding. Anyone ever experienced this?

    The results are expected tomorrow, so then I'll know if I am in or out this month.




    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • brooklyngirl18

    Hi!  Exciting that you can jump into IVF so soon after the lap surgery, that's awesome. I remember multiple doctors told me I was technically at my most fertile immediately after getting the endo growths removed, so it seems great to start immediately.

    Me: 34 ("unexplained IF"), DH: 40 (he is fine!), Married since 2013, 2 cats :)

    TTC since Aug 2014

    May 2016: laproscopy, found & removed moderate (stage III) endo (largest growth was on R ovary)

    Summer/Fall 2016: 3x IUI w/ clomid & trigger shot, 3x BFN

    Jan 2017: 2 months of lupron depot to quiet endo (ugh). Done!

    March 2017: IVF #1 (antagonist) Cancelled/converted to IUI #4 on 3/31/17, CP :/

    May 2017: IVF #1, try 2 (Lupron added). ER 5/23 (14 retrieved, 11 mature, 10 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen, 2 PGS normal). FET in late July!

  • @daisy222 after removing my endo my doctor gave me 6 months before it likely returns.  I'm at right about 4 months since surgery so fingers crossed the birth control they have had me on kept it away. 

    Hopefully you get good news tomorrow! Cysts are sooo annoying. 

    Welcome @Ash_SE and @brooklyngirl18!

    I have my baseline on Friday. If all looks good and my cysts are gone I start Lupron that day, finish my BC on Sunday and then just wait for AF. 


  • @daisy22 it will be 3 weeks between the laparoscopy and stims. I was wondering if it was too soon? I have my post op next friday so hopefully everything looks good and i'm clear to proceed. good luck with the results tomorrow, hopefully it's a cyst and clears on it's own.

    @mmd1986 if you don't mind my asking, why are you waiting on your period before starting ivf? I was under the impression you stay on bc then go right to stims?


    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • Glad this thread is starting to get more active! @Daisy22 I would think the doctor popping it could be just like a mini ER?

    AFM, I had 13 follies - 7 on my R sizes 12 and 13 and 6 on my L sizes 12,13 and 2 14s. Lining was 3 layers and an 8. Estrogen was 802. This was after 6 days of stims. Going to monitoring every day now. Started Ganirelix this morning. Also started the Prednisone and Had an intralipid infusion last night. 
  • @MMD1986 what protocol is that? Long Lupron? 
  • @laurad75 checking in to see how yesterday went! Work has kept me off the boards a bit and catching up tonight.

    Nice to see people's cycles progressing along, some new and some of us moving on to our next cycle.

    AFM, started peein' on the stick to check for LH surge today. If I maintain my frighteningly regular timing, I should hit surge on Saturday-ish. Tomorrow DH and I meet with RE to review our last cycle and discuss this next one and firm up our 'plan'.  I am going to be asking if I might have stimmed too long.  I had 11 follicles of my 24 measurable that had no eggs.... is that a thing? if you go too long can they just go away? Im probably asking a really dumb question haha

    Tomorrow I order all my meds. YAY for OOP. #frownyface
  • Ash_SE said:
    @MMD1986 what protocol is that? Long Lupron? 
    I'm not sure, to be honest. 

    @brooklyngirl18 I'm not sure what is normal with birth control and IVF. My nurse just said call her when I get AF, and I'll start my stims that day.
  • I took a small break and there is so much catching up to do!  I'll probably stick with the April board since today is CD5 and ER will most likely be end of March and fresh transfer (FX) early April.  I am on my third day of stims and so far, so good.  Trying to stay optimistic.  I feel better that I have one IVF under my belt and I know what to expect and I added in acupuncture and assisted hatching this time, so I am hoping the improvements will help.  
  • Thanks @cmiller73.  The last monitoring only showed the three so I triggered last night and ER is tomorrow.  Hopefully those 3 will be good quality but we will most likely go right into another round of stims and a 3rd ER regardless.  

    GL with your appt today.  I don't know the answer to your questions but I'm curious what the doctor tells you.  
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • My FET is scheduled for the end of April so I'm joining here!  My retrieval was in February and we had to do a freeze all cycle, but we were able to freeze 12.  My husband travels a lot and I'll need to do the majority of my shots by myself so I'm a little nervous for that, but excited to move forward.  
  • @Annie034 welcome! I may be doing some PIO shots myself too and am a needle phobe, so I get it! Here's to finding our inner badass!

    @laurad75 good luck tomorrow!

    @cmiller73 25?!? Geez! I have a good feeling for you and doing the ICSI sounds like a good way to go (we will do the same due to me being over 40). Laughing about the chicken coop egg remarks- sounds like your husband is a great support and laughter has got to be good during all this!
  • @laurad75 newbie ivf'er question...if you go right into stims for another ER, what is the wait time between? The timing is confusing to me and I'm trying to figure out if I'd have time for a second ER if needed before our cross-country move. I'm thinking that at age 42 I realistically should expect to need this.

    i have more newbie questions for the group...I know after FET that hot baths would be off limits, but how about up until then? I'm looking for some stress relief. Also, in our IVF class I remember the nurse saying no BD during a certain window but by that point in the class my head was spinning and I felt faint after seeing all the needles lol so I spaced out and forgot what she said. Thanks!
  • @Momifbysea ME:43, DH: 41 (yesterday) glad to be in such good company here on the boards :)
  • @Momifbysea - my RE said i could do baths up until a couple days before my ER, and since I am doing FET, baths are fine up until a day or two before that. They were a lifesaver after the ER for me. I love taking a bath to relax, so that's one thing that stinks that we have to give up when pregnant...lol
  • @caseyw8784 You got to enjoy baths after ER? My nurse said absolutely not for at least a week after ER. It was pretty hilarious to watcher explain that 'Nothing and I mean NOTHING can go in. Or even think of going in. Don't even try. Bathwater included.'

  • @cmiller73 - I was told to wait 72 hours...and honestly, if i had even tried before then, i probably would've gotten stuck in the tub cause moving hurt so much for the first few days! i can only imagine, if i had tried that while DH was at work, and i got stuck in the tub and had to call 911...DH's engine company would be the first to respond... :lol:

    But it is interesting how different RE's have different policies with EVERYTHING, it seems...lol
  • @Momifbysea My wait time was a cycle on bcp.  Last round I had my ER on Feb 10, then got my period 12 days later.  On CD 3 I started bcp and took them for 14 days and then got my period a few days after my last dose.  That new cycle I started stims on CD 2.  I'm hopeful that they will let me go straight to another round again.  I'll have that conversation in a week or so after we see how many fertilize and how they do.  
    History and blog link in spoiler
    2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 
    2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
    moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
    Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP!  baby boy born 8/22/18

    May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
    Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
    May 2020 FET; BFN
    July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
    Oct 2020 BFP! 

    Take a look at my blog


  • @cmiller73 we are doing ICSI. We don't have MFI but they are covering it. We did a NCIVF several years ago and our 1 egg didn't fertilize so I pushed for it. 
  • Thanks for the answers ladies! It is interesting how RE's and nurses at different clinics have different "rules", so to speak. So as soon as I finish this cream alternative to the Flagyl in two more nights, into the tub I shall go!!!
  • I had another scan today. I'm up to 19 measurable follicles 12mm and over. 9 are between 14 and 16. The rest are 12 and 13 after 7 days of stims. Waiting on my bloodwork. 

    The nurse mentioned maybe dialing back on meds the last few days to avoid possible OHSS since I want to do a fresh transfer.

    Our insurance counts a transfer as an attempt attempt so each FET would count against our 3 IVF attempts. I'm not sure and can't get a clear answer on whether if this time the stims amd retrieval count as an attempt if we had to do a freeze all in case of OHSS. I can't waste an attempt of the frozen transfer would count as a 2nd attempt. It is such a balance to get enough eggs but not too many you know. 

    If if we get a lot of blasts Im considering PGS the rest then freezing besides the best looking 2 and use those for fresh transfer. We had opted out of PGS due to the issue of using up 2 attempts. But if we have a lot from this first retrieval maybe we should do it on the leftovers. 
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