TTC After a Loss

***December WTO***

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Re: ***December WTO***

  • @RiverSong15 sorry about cd 2. I always hate the wait between af and fw. Just get so bored, lol.
    *** TW ***
    Me 31, DH 30
    Married: 07/2014, TTC since 12/2015
    BFP #1: 1/1/16, MC 1/14/16 (6 weeks), D&C 2/5/16 (9 weeks)
    BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
    BFP #3: 12/24/16  EDD 09/04/2017
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  • I was wondering if anyone would be willing to chart stalk me? 


    Commentary: 
    - I usually O on CD 18 - CD 20. 
    - My temp during my luteal phase is usually 98.0. 
    - Two of the temps above the cover line were not taken at my usual time. My temp from this morning was taken after a bad night sleep and I probably only got about 3 hours of sleep before I took it. 
    - My Wondfos were at their darkest Saturday and Sunday morning. Although I never get a true positive with them, the darkest days usually occur a day or two before O. 
    - The CB digital that I bought to confirm my Wondfos is still giving me the blinking smiley face = high fertility. Has anyone ever gotten a blinking smiley face on the CB digital after O? 
    - I'm not positive that the EWCM that I saw on CD 11-13  wasn't from BD the nights before. I don't always get EWCM. 
    - This is my first month tracking CP and I'm still trying to get the hang of it. 

    Maybe you can tell that I don't agree with FF and really want O day to be today or tomorrow because BD timing will be better. We'll HIO tonight just in case but I feel so frustrated by this chart! 

    Thanks for the help! 
  • stephann85stephann85 member
    edited December 2016
    @Wingless00 I would say Sunday or maybe even today. Hard to tell at this point, another day or 2 of temps and you should have a clearer picture. Even FF is unsure since it gave you the dotted lines. So keep HIO until you get a few more high temps.

    Edit to add tag
    *** TW ***
    Me 31, DH 30
    Married: 07/2014, TTC since 12/2015
    BFP #1: 1/1/16, MC 1/14/16 (6 weeks), D&C 2/5/16 (9 weeks)
    BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
    BFP #3: 12/24/16  EDD 09/04/2017
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  • @stephann85 Thanks for giving it a look! I've only gotten solid crosshairs on FF a few times. One of these days, I'll manage to get more consistent waking times and will make a "perfect" chart. Life goals I never thought I would have... Are you still waiting on O? 
  • I go here now, CD 4 and this is looking like it's going to be a longer-than-usual AF.  No idea why, but I'm getting used to having no idea what's going on.  Here's hoping for successful cycles for everyone here!
  • @migdala I hear ya on the having no idea.  I'm in the same boat.  I'm hoping my body and cycle regulate soon.
  • @Wingless00 you should try this..
    https://www.whenmybaby.com/basalbodytemperature.php

    It's a bbt adjuster so that if you wake up at different times you can see what it should've been if you'd woken up at the same time as "usual". I used to get only dotted crosshairs, I started doing this so I wouldn't have an insane amount of open circles & now I get solid CHs


    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

  • @SoonToBeMommaHowe Wow! That is the coolest tool ever! Thank you sooo  much. I still didn't have solid CH but chart looks a lot less crazy. I would now put O at Sunday but am still confused by my CB OPK, which gave me high fertility for today. I really need to stop obsessing! Or I'll test again like a maniac.

    @justsuzie So great to see you here, girl! Sorry that you are feeling sick with your sinus infection but hope you are doing OK otherwise! 

    @migdala I'm with you with not knowing what's going on. FX for you this cycle! 

    @RiverSong15 Sorry that AF came. I think I saw that December is a tough anniversary month for you. How are you doing? 


  • @Wingless00 I think O was yesterday or maybe today. My sleeping was horrible last night so my temp is questionable today. But I will know more come tomorrow once I get another temp and check cp again. FX for us this cycle.
    *** TW ***
    Me 31, DH 30
    Married: 07/2014, TTC since 12/2015
    BFP #1: 1/1/16, MC 1/14/16 (6 weeks), D&C 2/5/16 (9 weeks)
    BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
    BFP #3: 12/24/16  EDD 09/04/2017
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  • @SoonToBeMommaHowe Wow, thanks for that link! I never knew you could "convert" BBT temps.  I'm going to use this next cycle for sure because I'm not great at being consistent in my time.
    Me: 35     DH: 37
    BFP: 1.6.16 | MC: 2.17.16
    BFP: 10.3.16 | CP: 10.11.16
    BFP: 12.14.16 | CP: 12.14.16
    BFP:  1.23.17 | EDD 10.6.17 -- DS born 10.7.17 <3
    BFP:  9.9.18 | EDD 5.23.19 -- DD born 5.24.19 <3
    BFP: 9.1.21 | MC 10.1.21
    BFP: 11.11.21 | EDD 7.24.22 

     

  • @SoonToBeMommaHowe  Love the link!!  
    ***TW***
    Me: 36  DH:35
    Married: 7/10/2016
    TTC#1 - May 2016
    BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016  
    BFP 5/5/2017  - CP
    IVF #1 - June 2017  - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo.  7/9 Beta #1 - 161 
    <3 Adam <3 Born on 3/18/18




     
  • Thanks @Wingless00. December is tough for me because I miscarried the day after Christmas last year. I'm doing mostly OK right now, but we'll see how I feel on the actual day. I should O around then too, so I'm sure I'll have all the feels then. Mostly I can't believe it's been a year already. 
  • @RiverSong15 hugs girl. I'll be thinking of you.
    Me: 39 DH: 39
    CP 1/25/16 4.5 weeks, developed Graves' disease
  • stephann85stephann85 member
    edited December 2016
    @RiverSong15 hugs sent you way. 
    ETA to add this...

    *** TW ***
    Me 31, DH 30
    Married: 07/2014, TTC since 12/2015
    BFP #1: 1/1/16, MC 1/14/16 (6 weeks), D&C 2/5/16 (9 weeks)
    BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
    BFP #3: 12/24/16  EDD 09/04/2017
    Pregnancy Ticker
  • I managed to wake up at 5:30 today - not 4, not 6:30 - and definitely have a temp that confirms O. Based on my wondfos and usual cycle, I'd say I'm 2 dpo but FF thinks I'm 5. Timing is ok either way but much better for the later O. My CB digital is still giving me flashing smiley so that is annoying. Grumble grumble... moving over to TWW. Rooting for everyone here!!! 
  • @RiverSong15 hugs lady. Positive is that December is almost over and a couple of weeks we will all hopefully will have a better year !!

    @Wingless00 hope you oed later.gl on tww!!
    ***TW***
    Me: 36  DH:35
    Married: 7/10/2016
    TTC#1 - May 2016
    BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016  
    BFP 5/5/2017  - CP
    IVF #1 - June 2017  - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo.  7/9 Beta #1 - 161 
    <3 Adam <3 Born on 3/18/18




     
  • Lots of love to you @RiverSong15

    Im currently cd15, usually O btwn 17-20. Gonna HIO tonight and that will be it for timing before DH leaves for Panama for the rest of the week. 

    Looks like I might be close in cycle timing with a few of you! 
    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

  • This is my 1st cycle back after mc on 11/6.  Just finished AF on cycle day 5....excited to be back and hopeful it will b quick
  • Sending you an extra dose of good luck for the cycle @SoonToBeMommaHowe!

    Sorry about all the anniversaries @RiverSong15. It really sucks that they all have piled up at the same time and coincided with Christmas, to boot! 
  • So according to wondfos and temping I O'd Sunday.  We will see if it's true or if I made it up in my mind.... AF should be here right at Christmas.  Lucky me. Hohoho.

    Is it possible to O 5 days after getting back to 0 HCG?
  • @justsuzie I believe you can. My practice said that you can still get pregnant with a little hcg in the system and that you can still ovulate. That's why they told me to wait one cycle after levels go to 0 to ttc again. 
    ***TW***
    Me: 36  DH:35
    Married: 7/10/2016
    TTC#1 - May 2016
    BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016  
    BFP 5/5/2017  - CP
    IVF #1 - June 2017  - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo.  7/9 Beta #1 - 161 
    <3 Adam <3 Born on 3/18/18




     
  • @justsuzie Yay!! Sorry about AF at Christmas but things are moving for you now!
  • @justsuzie I'm pretty sure I O'd while I was still getting positive HPTs.  I wasn't doing OPKs so I can't know for sure but at the follow-up ultrasound the tech said it looked like I had just O'd or was about to, and based on when I got AF the timing makes sense.
  • @migdala @SP128 & @Wingless00 Thanks ladies.  I go for my visit with the new OB tomorrow.  Hoping my 2 benched cycles is starting now which will let me ttc in February :)
  • @RiverSong15 Sending you hugs too <3

    @SoonToBeMommaHowe I never knew BBT converter calculators existed!

    Oh man, I went in and "cleaned up" my chart and it changed my O day by TWO days. Then I did my previous charts and O day switched on all those too. Now I feel like all my charts are a lie! :D
    BFP #1 9/2/16, MMC @ 8w5d, D&E 10/20/16
    BFP #2 12/17/16, EDD 8/26/17
    L born at 35+6 on 7/28/17 <3
  • @riversong15 - I'm sorry that's tough - hugs!

    @justsuzie - at least your body is getting back on track - that is great!

    CD 1 for me. AF was 3 days late and I got it in the midst of taking 2 pg tests bec I was totally convinced I was pg.  I got BFNs earlier in the tww and had gotten over the fact that AF is coming just to convince myself that I was pg to get AF. This past week has just been a roller coaster of emotions. I'm kind of concerned that my cycle is so long -35 days and that I probably did not O when I thought I did. Already started temping and feel I just have to be more consistent with that to understand my cycle better.
  • Oh @TScalei lots of hugs for you today <3
    DH - 34, Me - 32
    Married 7/13
    TTC #1 since 10/13
    BFP 2/4/15, MC twin boys at 18w3d 5/15
    IUI #1 2/25/16

  • RiverSong15RiverSong15 member
    edited December 2016
    I'm so sorry @TScalei. The roller coaster really sucks. All the hugs today. <3 Good luck with temping. I'm always happy to help with a chart stalk!

    @SoontobeMommaHowe FX for O soon!

    @justsuzie I'm glad your body seems to be back on track!

    @oliveoil Do you have examples of your charts before and after you adjusted temps? Using temp converters makes me pause - they make assumptions about how your body temp behaves, but everyone is different and other factors can be in play. The scientist in me is concerned about introducing bias into your chart. For example, if you temp early one day, that would possibly give you a lower temp. But what if your room was warmer that day? That could make your temp go up. And then you'd be adjusting your temp to an even higher point using the converter and could artificially show an O pattern. That's why I prefer to use secondary signs too (CM and OPK) - they add info that can help interpret your chart. If all else fails, you can always exclude a data point in FF so it won't consider it. 


  • Well here I am back in WTO for what feels like the 1,000th time. This is the week that we got pregnant last year so it totally sucks. Especially after all of the acupuncture and stuff I did this last cycle. 

    I called and RE last week and now have a who packet to fill out. It's just too depressing to deal with right now. 

    Anyways...I'm wondering if any of you guys have had lighter periods after a D&C. I'm starting to get worried. My AFs have been just light to medium bleeding for like a day or two and then just spotting for a few days. I'm worried about scar tissue. Any thoughts? 
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  • @moofish2364 -being in the WTO for the 1,000th time is really what it feels like. Im sorry to see you here again.

    Question: Does anyone else have longer cycles? Im kind of concerned that I had a 35 day cycle this time. Now I may not O for another 3 weeks? I just feel like I have such a hard time getting the timing right.
  • Sorry you're back here @MooFish2364. :(

    @TScalei I have variable cycles on the longer side between 28 and 35 days. When I talked to my RE, she was not at all concerned. She said my cycles were considered "regular" and that she was only concerned with women with cycles consistently longer than 35 days. I can't remember - have you temped before? Use OPKs? Track CM? Temping could be useful. The two cycles I got pregnant, I was surprised to see I Od two days after my first positive OPK. We were able to get better timing because I temped and knew I hadn't Od yet. 
  • @riversong15 - my cycles seem to be between 29 -35 days too. Its hard with 2 mc in a year _ I feel like my cycles have been out of whack. I do use OPKs - this was my first cycle using wondfos and I just thought the lines never really darkened (in hindsight bec I didn't O when I thought I did). And I do track CM but I feel like some cycles it will be more obvious than others. Im hoping temping will help. I know so many swear by it and I think it will be helpful. I will probably have more ques for you as we go on. Thanks for your help - you are always so helpful on here! Glad we are cycle buddies again - but can we get BFPS this time please? lol
  • Here's something to give us a good laugh. I am staying with my parents next week to spend time with family coming into town. It is also my fertile week so DH has agreed to drive in just for sex so we can try to have good timing and then back to our house and back to work. This is going to be so super awkward! 
    Me: 32 DH: 36
    Married 5/08
    BFP #1: 1/27/13 DS #1 born 10/16/13
    BFP #2: 1/20/16, ectopic discovered 1/23/16
    Surgery 1/23/16 to remove ruptured tube
    TTCAL 3/16
    BFP #3: 3/24/17 EDD 12/5/17
    DS #2 born 12/11/17



  • RiverSong15RiverSong15 member
    edited December 2016
    @TScalei I like that plan for this cycle! Lol.

    @Taggarab Nice! Gotta love when FW falls over the holidays. Mine should be over Christmas. We're staying in an Airbnb with my ILs and I made sure we booked a place with enough bedrooms (rather than sleeper sofas). H thinks it will still be awkward. I don't care.. Lol. 
  • @TScalei  I think temping would be super helpful.  I so wish I started sooner.

    @Taggarab  Love the plan.  Got to do what you got to do.
    ***TW***
    Me: 36  DH:35
    Married: 7/10/2016
    TTC#1 - May 2016
    BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016  
    BFP 5/5/2017  - CP
    IVF #1 - June 2017  - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo.  7/9 Beta #1 - 161 
    <3 Adam <3 Born on 3/18/18




     
  • I just got a positive OPK! Last two cycles I have O'd within 2 days of getting my first positive so I am hoping its the same and I O on Friday so that we can hit -1. DH leaves on Friday morning for a trip so no more HIO after tomorrow night. CF is also watery but moving toward EWCM, so hoping to get to it!
  • dragonfly87-2dragonfly87-2 member
    edited December 2016
    @nalex420: Welcome back! Sorry for your loss and FX for this cycle!

    RiverSong15: Hugs. Sorry it's a tough month and time of year.
  • @dragonfly87 Yay for positive OPK!

    CD2 here and it's hitting with a vengeance, which was pretty expected given this last cycle was ohhh 64 days long.  I started the red raspberry leaf pills yesterday so will be interested to see if they help shorten my cycle any.  I'm taking a temping break for the next week or so, which is so nice.  Plus, my RE visit is in just a few hours.  Trying to stay positive for the remainder of this week and carry that through for vacation. 
    Me: 35     DH: 37
    BFP: 1.6.16 | MC: 2.17.16
    BFP: 10.3.16 | CP: 10.11.16
    BFP: 12.14.16 | CP: 12.14.16
    BFP:  1.23.17 | EDD 10.6.17 -- DS born 10.7.17 <3
    BFP:  9.9.18 | EDD 5.23.19 -- DD born 5.24.19 <3
    BFP: 9.1.21 | MC 10.1.21
    BFP: 11.11.21 | EDD 7.24.22 

     

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