@NiceyMeany I don't think you'll know until you try. Maybe plan for him to get up with you two for the first several days at home and see how it goes - continue the practice if you need to, let H sleep if you don't. I did all the MOTN stuff myself since I figured I had to get up anyway, no sense in both of us being sleep deprived and I don't remember any issues with my own sleepiness due to BF...
@NiceyMeany I don't think you'll know until you try. Maybe plan for him to get up with you two for the first several days at home and see how it goes - continue the practice if you need to, let H sleep if you don't. I did all the MOTN stuff myself since I figured I had to get up anyway, no sense in both of us being sleep deprived and I don't remember any issues with my own sleepiness due to BF...
This was us. If I had trouble he would get up, but I didn't see any point in getting him up just to put the baby in bed. Although we ended up bedsharing because she had to be touching me at all times, so take that with a grain of salt.
I know this was hours ago but I was busy at work and couldn't respond earlier.
you guys are walking a slippery slope with your c/s commentary. C/S moms get a lot of shit for not being real moms and "failing" at birth and something your body is supposed to "know" how to do. Recovery can be fucking brutal and have a lot of added physical issues on top of having a new baby that you're trying to take care of. Listening to statistics about the rates of unnecessary c/s and how gross it is to see one just adds to people's feelings of failure. Getting your baby out of you safely for you and your little is the most important thing and all births are beautiful even the ones where you're puking all over yourself or shitting on the table.
I know this was hours ago but I was busy at work and couldn't respond earlier.
you guys are walking a slippery slope with your c/s commentary. C/S moms get a lot of shit for not being real moms and "failing" at birth and something your body is supposed to "know" how to do. Recovery can be fucking brutal and have a lot of added physical issues on top of having a new baby that you're trying to take care of. Listening to statistics about the rates of unnecessary c/s and how gross it is to see one just adds to people's feelings of failure. Getting your baby out of you safely for you and your little is the most important thing and all births are beautiful even the ones where you're puking all over yourself or shitting on the table.
Thank you @PerraSucia! This will be my 3rd c-section, and I'm fine with it now, but after my 1st one, instead of feeling like "yay I just brought a baby into this world" I felt more like "wow, I suck. I can't even birth a baby"
Although, I am totally against unnecessary c-sections, you just have to do whatever it takes to get your baby born safely!
I'm not at all saying mom's have failed if they have a C-section. I know their recovery is much more difficult as they have underwent major surgery. Anyone who gives shit or has the audacity to say they arent real moms should shut the fuck up. I will also say that rotating at a hospital where their C-section rate is in the 90s is not a good thing and is more of a reflection on how some doctors are quick to perform a C-section for a lot of riduculous reasons. And I'm not saying all doctors are quick to do this, but many are being trained to have a low threshold for C-section. High C-section rates in our country is not speculation, it is a fact. And none of the blame or responsibility should fall on the moms. I got into the medical field to advocate for patients. I fiercely believe in protecting them and that includes challenging possible unnecessary C-sections as the recovery and future ramifications are real. And yes, I have witnessed C-sections in person. It was not gross, but it was hard to watch. So was a knee replacement, rhinoplasty or appendectomy. Surgery in general is quite gruesome to watch, but obviously very necessary at times.
Second, watching a baby tear through a vagina isn't beautiful either. Saying someone else's birth is gruesome is pretty unsupportive and fear mongering.
I'm not at all saying mom's have failed if they have a C-section. I know their recovery is much more difficult as they have underwent major surgery. Anyone who gives shit or has the audacity to say they arent real moms should shut the fuck up. I will also say that rotating at a hospital where their C-section rate is in the 90s is not a good thing and is more of a reflection on how some doctors are quick to perform a C-section for a lot of riduculous reasons. And I'm not saying all doctors are quick to do this, but many are being trained to have a low threshold for C-section. High C-section rates in our country is not speculation, it is a fact. And none of the blame or responsibility should fall on the moms. I got into the medical field to advocate for patients. I fiercely believe in protecting them and that includes challenging possible unnecessary C-sections as the recovery and future ramifications are real. And yes, I have witnessed C-sections in person. It was not gross, but it was hard to watch. So was a knee replacement, rhinoplasty or appendectomy. Surgery in general is quite gruesome to watch, but obviously very necessary at times.
THIS. Any moms who think c-section moms arent "real" can STFU. Birth is hard to watch too and grosses some people out. I didn't see any comments here from ppl saying c-sections are gross or moms should be shamed- maybe I missed them? If I missed them, I am sorry for not calling that BS out.
That being said high c-section rates are a concern for a lot of reasons-- particularly bc they aren't ideal for the health of moms. They carry a lot of risk and should only be used when absolutely necessary for the health of mom and baby. They are necessary in many cases, but probably not 40+% so there are other factors at play.
@PerraSucia Yes, I did not check the statistics when I was there prior to 2011, it was what I was told by the L&D staff while I did my rotation. And as I said previously my group of nursing students didn't see as many vaginal births because so many women had c-sections. But at other hospitals where my peers were assigned were seeing vaginal births like crazy, which was awesome! It was also awesome to get to witness surgeries during that rotation. So while I don't know the actual stats, I know that at the time the rates were higher than what some of the staff and my instructors thought was normal and this opened up dialogue about unnecessary C-sections.
Im not trying to stir up unnecessary fear for any mom or person who could be in the room while a woman is delivering via c-section. I can say that the response of mom and dad seeing their newborn was beautiful. It was a brand new life. A baby born is precious and amazing no matter how it got here. And holding a leg of a woman who is farting and pooping and tearing is also gruesome. And the outcome is also amazing and beautiful.
I believe C-sections should only be used as a medical necessity of last resort as it protects mom and baby. Not all doctors follow this and that's not ok. And I'm not necessarily even placing blame on the doctors as many of them have been trained that way, or come up against push back from insurance. It's more of a problem with our health system over all.
Im on the side of mom's, women and babies. If what I have said previously caused fear or felt like a put down I sincerely apologize, that was never my intent.
And during my delivery I was presented with the option to have a mirror to watch my delivery, and I said hell no. I didn't want to see my vagina pushing a baby out as it would have mortified me. That's just me though. **Kanye shrug**
@kswiger06 thanks for sharing your routine. I have heard of EP moms who lay baby across their lap or in a boppy and feed while they pump in the MOTN. Seems like something that sounds easy enough and would save time but is probably a bit more difficult to actually perform.
It's Friday!!! This weekend is going to be fun! Tonight is H's Christmas party, tomorrow baby shower, and we're going to get our Christmas tree!!! I woke up this morning thinking it was Saturday and I could sleep in but then it hit me. But it's ok
@becbec28 we are almost twins. We are putting up the tree tonight, my shower is tomorrow, but work Christmas party is next week. I hope you have a great time at your shower!
@kswiger06 thanks for sharing your routine. I have heard of EP moms who lay baby across their lap or in a boppy and feed while they pump in the MOTN. Seems like something that sounds easy enough and would save time but is probably a bit more difficult to actually perform.
That must be awesome for the people who can pull it off, but I just couldn't do that lol. It seems like it would be rough trying to get baby burped and not drop/lose anything. I'd end up having milk going all over, and cords tangled up haha... I need more hands
We put our tree up last weekend but the rest of the Christmas decor has been in boxes all over the living room all week :-p. I finally got most of it up yesterday. Planning on finishing up today but I'm having a very lazy morning so far. Husband will be home early, like 1, so maybe the toddler relief might help with the motivation. Or feed the lazy.
We we have our company holiday party in two weekends. Looking forward to it, it's usually a really nice shindig. Plus, time away from the kid! (I love my son, I really, truly do. Would literally die for him. I'm not as awful as I sound! ;-))
@becbec28 we are almost twins. We are putting up the tree tonight, my shower is tomorrow, but work Christmas party is next week. I hope you have a great time at your shower!
@kswiger06 thanks for sharing your routine. I have heard of EP moms who lay baby across their lap or in a boppy and feed while they pump in the MOTN. Seems like something that sounds easy enough and would save time but is probably a bit more difficult to actually perform.
That must be awesome for the people who can pull it off, but I just couldn't do that lol. It seems like it would be rough trying to get baby burped and not drop/lose anything. I'd end up having milk going all over, and cords tangled up haha... I need more hands
I agree, that sounds amazing. But I never could have pulled it off. I had to pump when she was in her swing or something!
Have fun at your showers tomorrow! We were not sure we would be having one, since no one had offered to throw us one yet - but then yesterday my sister texted out of the blue to say she wants to throw us a shower, so yay! Probably won't be until after the holidays at this point, which is fine since I'm not sure until end of Feb.
We took DS to see Santa at the mall today. He's such a fun age right now that I am bursting with the Christmas spirit. We have something planned for every weekend to go see light displays or something else festive from now until the 2nd week of Jan. As a super introvert, I'm pretty sure I'm going to burn out, but hopefully I can just plan on sleeping thru January to recover.
There is a Santa at a mall near us who is so perfect. Friendly, smiley, beard exactly how I always pictured Santa when I was growing up.... I used to live near that mall and cut through it pretty much daily, and I used to love watching the kids get so excited. I was just there yesterday and got so teary eyed thinking about taking LO there next year.
What I'm saying is, I am feeling your Christmas spirit right now, @ohstars
I want to AW my husband for a moment. At work there is a big focus on safety and I guess his boss requires all of his team members to create safety PowerPoint slides that they share during their morning meeting. Well this month it was DH's turn and he did his on baby proofing your house. I think they are supposed to be work related but maybe not. Still it was really cute. He sent me his slides and was all excited asking if I knew we had to keep the toilet lid down and to be careful of blind strings and we need to make sure the toy box is safe. I think it's really adorable he took this assignment this way and is now very serious about making our house baby safe when we move in.
Me: 33 | DH: 34 Married: October, 19, 2015 EDD 2/22/17 DS1 born on 3/2/17 EDD 3/8/20 DS2 born on 3/10/20 EDD 11/24/23 (Formerly Marriedhamstermom Feb ‘17)
You know when you're bored so you pop in here and see absolutely nothing is going on, then you find something temporary to do. Then you end up back in here to see nothing has changed... that's me today.
@kswiger06 hey hey they were great for the NST and I got to actually chat with my dr, who wasn't worried at all that baby b hadn't been perfect at practice-breathing at 29 weeks. So all good and back to my regular one-a-weeks. Thanks for thinking of me!
Blah... I am sick, being sick and pregnant sucks. This is putting a hamper on all the work I need to do in the house too. When I cough it even hurts my stomach area, blah...
I'm not sick but I'm feeling pretty crappy. It's 9 am and I have no energy. I just wanna go back to bed and sleep all day.... but I can't. DS has a birthday party to go to in an hour and I have to pick up some groceries. H went into work today but told me he would try and be home for about 1-2 pm so I could get a decent nap in before we go to my parents for dinner.
What's everyone else up to today?
************* First BFP: 12/16/13 EDD: 08/23/14 Baby BOY born: 08/29/14
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If I had trouble he would get up, but I didn't see any point in getting him up just to put the baby in bed.
Although we ended up bedsharing because she had to be touching me at all times, so take that with a grain of salt.
you guys are walking a slippery slope with your c/s commentary. C/S moms get a lot of shit for not being real moms and "failing" at birth and something your body is supposed to "know" how to do. Recovery can be fucking brutal and have a lot of added physical issues on top of having a new baby that you're trying to take care of. Listening to statistics about the rates of unnecessary c/s and how gross it is to see one just adds to people's feelings of failure. Getting your baby out of you safely for you and your little is the most important thing and all births are beautiful even the ones where you're puking all over yourself or shitting on the table.
Although, I am totally against unnecessary c-sections, you just have to do whatever it takes to get your baby born safely!
I will also say that rotating at a hospital where their C-section rate is in the 90s is not a good thing and is more of a reflection on how some doctors are quick to perform a C-section for a lot of riduculous reasons. And I'm not saying all doctors are quick to do this, but many are being trained to have a low threshold for C-section. High C-section rates in our country is not speculation, it is a fact. And none of the blame or responsibility should fall on the moms. I got into the medical field to advocate for patients. I fiercely believe in protecting them and that includes challenging possible unnecessary C-sections as the recovery and future ramifications are real.
And yes, I have witnessed C-sections in person. It was not gross, but it was hard to watch. So was a knee replacement, rhinoplasty or appendectomy. Surgery in general is quite gruesome to watch, but obviously very necessary at times.
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Second, watching a baby tear through a vagina isn't beautiful either. Saying someone else's birth is gruesome is pretty unsupportive and fear mongering.
That being said high c-section rates are a concern for a lot of reasons-- particularly bc they aren't ideal for the health of moms. They carry a lot of risk and should only be used when absolutely necessary for the health of mom and baby. They are necessary in many cases, but probably not 40+% so there are other factors at play.
Im not trying to stir up unnecessary fear for any mom or person who could be in the room while a woman is delivering via c-section. I can say that the response of mom and dad seeing their newborn was beautiful. It was a brand new life. A baby born is precious and amazing no matter how it got here. And holding a leg of a woman who is farting and pooping and tearing is also gruesome. And the outcome is also amazing and beautiful.
I believe C-sections should only be used as a medical necessity of last resort as it protects mom and baby. Not all doctors follow this and that's not ok. And I'm not necessarily even placing blame on the doctors as many of them have been trained that way, or come up against push back from insurance. It's more of a problem with our health system over all.
Im on the side of mom's, women and babies. If what I have said previously caused fear or felt like a put down I sincerely apologize, that was never my intent.
And during my delivery I was presented with the option to have a mirror to watch my delivery, and I said hell no. I didn't want to see my vagina pushing a baby out as it would have mortified me. That's just me though. **Kanye shrug**
How is everyone else's morning going?
Married: 9/2013
Love my LEO!!
TTC #1: 9/2015
BFP: 2/1/16 MC 2/8/16 @ 5wks
BFP: 5/22/16 RAINBOW BABY
EDD: 1/30/2017 *IT'S A GIRL!!!!*
Kirsten Grace 1/20/17
We we have our company holiday party in two weekends. Looking forward to it, it's usually a really nice shindig. Plus, time away from the kid! (I love my son, I really, truly do. Would literally die for him. I'm not as awful as I sound! ;-))
hope you guys have a great shower!
Married: 9/2013
Love my LEO!!
TTC #1: 9/2015
BFP: 2/1/16 MC 2/8/16 @ 5wks
BFP: 5/22/16 RAINBOW BABY
EDD: 1/30/2017 *IT'S A GIRL!!!!*
Kirsten Grace 1/20/17
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
Married: 10/10
EDD: 8/27/16 MMC 1/16
Rainbow Boy: 2/04/17
TTC: 4/18 BFP: 1/2/19
EDD: 9/6/19
Now I need to clean my house for my out of town guests. Blah!
What I'm saying is, I am feeling your Christmas spirit right now, @ohstars
Married: October, 19, 2015
EDD 2/22/17 DS1 born on 3/2/17
EDD 3/8/20 DS2 born on 3/10/20
EDD 11/24/23
(Formerly Marriedhamstermom Feb ‘17)
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Married to my Soul Mate since 09/06/09
I'm not sick but I'm feeling pretty crappy. It's 9 am and I have no energy. I just wanna go back to bed and sleep all day.... but I can't. DS has a birthday party to go to in an hour and I have to pick up some groceries. H went into work today but told me he would try and be home for about 1-2 pm so I could get a decent nap in before we go to my parents for dinner.
What's everyone else up to today?
First BFP: 12/16/13
EDD: 08/23/14
Baby BOY born: 08/29/14