@felix08 I would be doing the same thing lol. Everyone knows not to ruin a book for me! I am starting it this afternoon of course its been a full day of patients so reading did not happen this morning.
@hezzer78 wow, I would have been so annoyed with your doctor! Like, ya...well aware, thanks UGH As for the not getting up after sex thing, I've heard mixed answers. I've been pregnant twice (both ended in loss) and I don't think I've EVER laid there for a full fifteen minutes (usually around five, MAYBE ten). I'm sure it *couldn't hurt* as long as you're not prone to UTIs or something? I agree that I think the spermies are pretty fast lol (PS omg your gif killled me!! ) @JackieMarie1989 I know my BBT takes a full minute and that can be a bit of a pain because it FEELS LIKE it takes five minutes sometimes haha And my temps are also way lower than with the other thermometer, I laugh when I see the plummet to CD1 on last month's chart! I'm inclined to trust it, though, as my temps the last two months were inconclusive, but I'll still have to wait and see if it was my thermometer or my cycle
Cycle/Month: 2/2 TTCAL
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, DHA, RRLT, Green Tea, Turmeric Tea, fertility meditation, CM/CP, OPKs, and waiting for DH to return from his away trip to HIO more if I still haven't O'd
R/R: I had a decent temp dip yesterday and spike today so I'm HOPING maybe I O'd yesterday? Because that would make our timing pretty great I'll see what that OPK says later and my temps the next couple days. Nothing else I can do for now, anyways lol DH will be back tomorrow night or Friday. ALSO, RAVE, cuz I'm sort of excited about it: I bit the bullet and purchased a pack of wondfos opk/hpt last night that will be here Friday!!!
CS/Q: nope!
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! Okay, @felix08 mine is a little crazier, but I won't go into too many details lol It was a Halloween party YEARS ago when I was working as a bartender at a strip club. One of my friends rented out this huge house/mansion so there was party going on everywhere...upstairs, downstairs, in the steam room, in all the individual bedrooms and such....booze, good music, strippers, HALLOWEEN COSTUMES (halloween is my favorite, tho my EDD for my recent loss falls on Halloween, so I'm not sure this one will be as fun ) It was a blasty blast that I'll never forget lol
I'd have to say rugby parties were always a blast, too. We would have "Sunday Fundays" that involved so much ridiculousness and laughter (and hot rugby players eventually ending up shirtless )
Cycle/Month: 2/4 @bswishe4 - you made me go back and check myself, and I've been doing the same thing!!!
CD: 10
WAYDTGKU: all the things - CM, BBT, OPK, EOD...etc.
R/R: not today.
CS/Q: So @aboxofchocolates made me want to ask this question - this is my first month doing OPKs, when do you usually STOP doing them? The directions in it say to start on day 12 for me, based on previous cycled, but do you usually stop once you get a or do you test until you get a negative again?
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to!
Aside from my own wedding... I've got to say, my BFF's wedding coming up next June is going to be pretty epic. I'm one of 2 MOH's, the other one is another BFF of ours, and all of the Bridesmaids, Bride and I have known each other since 1st grade. It's just such a good wedding party that it's bound to be amazing. Not to mention, the bride is an only child, so her parents are kinda splurging on her. Can't wait!
@KhRun17 That sounds like it'll be a great wedding! For OPKs, I was doing them once per day until I felt confident that I had definitely O'd (including yesterday which was 2dpo), based on my temps and CM. I didn't want to miss it in case I was experiencing a false alarm. I use the cheap Wondfos so it isn't a big expense.
@KhRun17 I kept checking myself thinking how do you mess it up? lol I am glad I am not the only one! Also your question was one of the things I have been trying to figure out so thank you lol!
R/R: Disappointed because we missed HIO yesterday when I thought I had a positive or near-positive OPK. It was pretty dark, but I think I had darker test lines before. Thought the line would get darker today but it got lighter instead.
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! Weddings with open bar are always fun! Back in my partying days, I had a friend who lived in the lofts downtown and had rooftop parties on July 4th and Memorial Day with open bar, he hired a bartender, caterer and everything. That was always a fun time!
@kirstinh88; @aboxofchocolates; @hartmich; and whoever else I forgot Re: EOD v. ED sex during FW, according to a few different places that I've read, as the frequency of ejaculation goes up, so does the quality. Quantity can be dinminished ever so slightly but it's really the quality of the swimmers that matter in the end. Assuming your parnter doesn't have any male factor fertility issues, ED sex minimally increases the chance of sperm meeting egg. https://www.preseed.com/TTC-Blog/Dr-E/36/Fertility-Fact-Vs-Fiction.aspx That's just a little site with common myths and whether or not they're true. It's from 2014 and doesn't cite sources (so not super legit, but does support other findings).
@mandybeeslp; @felix08; @antoto; re:pnv, like Antoto said, pnv's help your overall health and wellness which is part of the reason why I take them while ttc. However, I also take them to decrease the chances of neural tube defects since those typically happen before a positive hpt.
@hezzer78; it can't hurt to lay there for a little!
@adirat; have fun celebrating! Your marriage has already lasted waaaaay longer than Britney's did to Jason Alexander lol
cycle/Month: 1
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: Pnv's, hio
R/R: I have no freakin clue when I ovulate. I'm pretty sure I have good cm but it also seems to be the fertile stuff all the time so that can't be right. "When in doubt, hio" is my current mantra lol
GTKY: probably all the college parties but nothing specifically jumps out at me right now.
@KhRun17 I've only been using OPKs for a month, but I stopped taking them once I had a positive and they started going negative again. I was taking them twice a day, first thing in the morning and then in the evening when I got home from work.
Cycle/Month: 8/8
CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: Waiting
R/R: Thank you guys so much for your kind words the other day in response to my crazy seizure post It was the first seizure I've had and I haven't had one since, which I take as a good sign. My H is awake all night watching me, poor guy. So far I've had a blood test, CT scan, and basic reflex test from the neorologist and all has come back normal. I have an MRI today and an EEG tomorrow, so hopefully they'll find something if there's something to find. If they don't find anything, they'll suspend my drivers license for 6 months ( ) and I'll just continue life as normally as I can. If they do find something... I'll deal with that then. I'm worried about what this means for TTCing. I'll feel better next week after I get the test results and have talked to my ob/gyn. The neurologist I met with did not have a good bedside manner and left me feeling pretty freaked out. I really wish this wasn't happening, but I keep reminding myself that there are so many worse things that could happen. It's not life threatening. It's manageable. It might not even effect TTCing. Don't borrow trouble! My family has been a huge support to me and my H and I'm really really glad that I have them.
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! My favorite party is watching Lord of the Rings on my couch with a glass of whiskey.
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
@RatParade- I'm glad you and your H have such a good support system! This is completely anecdotal, but one of my friends had a seizure about 18 months ago. He went through all the tests, everything came back normal, and he hasn't had another one. Having his license suspended really sucked, but it is possible for just freak seizures to occur. His neuro told him that he would probably never have another one either. FX that everything is totally normal for you too!
@Becky012016 Oh, I take PNVs, I just don't list them as something I'm doing to get KU. Like I said, totally petty pet peeve, ha! @RatParade FX your EEG/MRI go well! Keep us updated.
@Becky012016 haha no, my background is in kinesiology so I was a trainer for a team/club for a while. Several of them went on to play for Team Canada so I get to watch them on TV from time to time and chat with them here and there when they're traveling the world and competing
WAYDTGKU: Clomid, PNV, green tea, HIO, OPKs on CD10
R/R: Lots of fun posts today that I got to go through during my soozefestboredom townmiz party meeting today!
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! Junior year, in the fraternity section at Legion Field in 1996 with DH (who was FI at the time) and 71,000 of my closest friends as we (Alabama) beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl with a field goal at the end of the game.
Formerly ahrains Me:
42 | DH: 45 TTC since Dec. 2014 BFP #1 Oct. 2015 | MC Nov. 2015 Sept. 2016: FSH, AMH, E2, TSH, etc. all normal. | Oct. 2016: HSG all clear! |
Nov. 2016: Hysteroscopy & H's SA both great results Dec. 2016 - Follistim + TI BFP #2 12/25/16 | Natural MC 2/13/17 | False BFP leads to D&C 4/20/17 | Emergency D&C + hysteroscopy 5/16/17 The road probably ends here
@KhRun17 my best advice for you is to take the OPKs until you get a clear shift in your temperatures indicating that you did indeed ovulate. Some women occasionally get multiple LH surges per month (with the final surge hopefully accompanied by o) and if you stop taking the OPK after the first surge then that could really confuse you.
WAYDTGKU: HIO ED or EOD, PNV, trying so hard not to pay too much attention to my cycle and just be relaxed. We HIO ED for 10 freaking days until my temp rose (later than expected) with my son, and it was rough. And then my beautiful, textbook perfect chart was totally wrong, and I had to have O'd 6 days before the temp rise because all early u/s showed age consistent with LMP, not my O date. I still don't understand what happened. But we clearly HIO for many many more days than we needed to, and my vag is still upset about it ;-) Anyway, I want this baby making go-round to be a little more romantic.
R/R: I just started SAH and I cannot get my ass in gear to get a good routine going. Also I miss the old Bump. Are we allowed to swear?
CS/Q: Nah
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! I'll jump on the wedding band wagon; it was the most fun night of my life! Second to that, probably a "rave" I went to with my best friend, we made tutus and wore striped tights and danced our assess off. It was super fun b/c it was just about dancing and music, no sweaty randos trying to hook up. Third, I swear I've never been to a bad Mormon party. I freakin' love sober cheesy party games.
Trying to be more active, I know I'm usually post and ghost but living in Korea is hard man.... @momtoleo My H would use that as an excuse for me to be on top the whole time. Hope your DH feels better soon! @adirat I'll take any excuse to get a hotel room and not cook dinner @MandyBeeSLP (and others who've commented that I'm too lazy to add) The only thing my Dr. said when I asked about TTC is that I should take a PNV. I think it's to prevent Neural Tube Defects which usually happen before you even know you're KU. It also probably doesn't hurt if you don't take a multivitamin to help you get all the vitamins and minerals you need. @krisnicole23 I like preseed better than our non-fertility lube. If it wasn't so expensive for the little tube I'd use it all the time.
Cycle/Month: 2/1
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: PNV (I wouldn't be taking it if I wasn't TTC so I count it), Preseed during FW, BD ED during FW
R/R: AF is pretty much done. It's my first AF since my IUD was removed. When I had it in I had regular AFs but they were medium to light. This AF was heavy with clots the first few days and I was worried it would last forever but thankfully it's not.
I practically had a mini mental breakdown yesterday. Mostly AF crankiness but it was stuff I've been feeling and I cracked. DH and I always suggest cool things to do or vacations and they never happen and with CD1 I was all "Everything I want to do fails" "woe is me" blah blah blah. Basically we decided we need a trip. At first DH wanted to save all his PTO in case we have a baby this spring but there's no guarantee and we could end up without a vacation and no baby. We're planning to go home for Thanksgiving now but we aren't telling our parents so we'll surprise them!
Also, we're going to the beach this weekend which is nice. We went for my birthday last month and it rained the whole time. It was a bad birthday weekend.
CS/Q: nada
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! I don't like parties, at least I haven't been to one that stands out. I usually would either get shit faced or leave early.
@mangomimosa I miss it too! I have no idea what I can and can't do anymore. And my old BMB pretty much died after the move to TCF.
So did mine. It was one of the most active boards on TB and then we tried so hard to keep it going on TCF, but it sucked. We jumped ship to Facebook and it's nice to keep in touch with everyone, but not the same as here. I loved the snark & the culture we had on our board! It was all evidence-based, straight talk and we called everyone out on bullsh---crap, bullcrap, immediately.
I feel like if you're old enough and mature enough to TTC, you can probably handle a few naughty words and if you don't like it just move on, unless it's really derogatory/insensitive/etc. of course.
I'd be game for more cussing! I think you just can't cuss at people? Somewhere in lurkerdome I saw what's allowed in tou. Like, I could say "insert X nonsense here is bullshit" but I couldn't say "you're full of bullshit"
@slavenski I'm just scared of the admins; half my last BMB got permanently banned without any warning when all the shit was going down last year. Some of them were intentionally provoking, others were hardly doing anything wrong. And thanks @Becky012016 that makes sense.
@mangomimosa (I love mangoes btw) I play by "better safe than sorry" I guess. I'll swear but definitely don't swear at people. I just feel like there are better ways to get your point across than to call people names. I call them my color words. I drop F bombs all the time. I work on an Army base and one time a group of guys in my office were just talking and one guy apologized for another guy swearing and in my head I was like "Oh yes, my delicate female sensibilities cannot handle the male vocabulary. I will go to my office to faint now because the F bomb is so offensive". In real life I just explained that I'm from New England, I don't even notice swears anymore.
@Becky012016 I think it's easier for me since I'm on my macbook. I just download image and drag from my downloads list to the text box. If it took more work than that it would never happen lol
@mangomimosa I miss it a lot. We're stationed in South Korea right now and haven't been home in a year and a half AND we're extending till next summer. Thankfully we should be back for Thanksgiving-ish. I never thought I would miss winter. We got 3" of slush last winter and the whole city shut down until it melted that afternoon. I'm from NH but went to college in MA where I met my husband and where he's from. Our parents' houses are actually only 20mins apart since they're both on the border.
Re: WTO Wednesday
@JackieMarie1989 I know my BBT takes a full minute and that can be a bit of a pain because it FEELS LIKE it takes five minutes sometimes haha And my temps are also way lower than with the other thermometer, I laugh when I see the plummet to CD1 on last month's chart! I'm inclined to trust it, though, as my temps the last two months were inconclusive, but I'll still have to wait and see if it was my thermometer or my cycle
Cycle/Month: 2/2 TTCAL
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, DHA, RRLT, Green Tea, Turmeric Tea, fertility meditation, CM/CP, OPKs, and waiting for DH to return from his away trip to HIO more if I still haven't O'd
R/R: I had a decent temp dip yesterday and spike today so I'm HOPING maybe I O'd yesterday? Because that would make our timing pretty great I'll see what that OPK says later and my temps the next couple days. Nothing else I can do for now, anyways lol DH will be back tomorrow night or Friday. ALSO, RAVE, cuz I'm sort of excited about it: I bit the bullet and purchased a pack of wondfos opk/hpt last night that will be here Friday!!!
CS/Q: nope!
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to!
Okay, @felix08 mine is a little crazier, but I won't go into too many details lol It was a Halloween party YEARS ago when I was working as a bartender at a strip club. One of my friends rented out this huge house/mansion so there was party going on everywhere...upstairs, downstairs, in the steam room, in all the individual bedrooms and such....booze, good music, strippers, HALLOWEEN COSTUMES (halloween is my favorite, tho my EDD for my recent loss falls on Halloween, so I'm not sure this one will be as fun ) It was a blasty blast that I'll never forget lol
I'd have to say rugby parties were always a blast, too. We would have "Sunday Fundays" that involved so much ridiculousness and laughter (and hot rugby players eventually ending up shirtless )
Cycle/Month: 2/4 @bswishe4 - you made me go back and check myself, and I've been doing the same thing!!!
CD: 10
WAYDTGKU: all the things - CM, BBT, OPK, EOD...etc.
R/R: not today.
CS/Q: So @aboxofchocolates made me want to ask this question - this is my first month doing OPKs, when do you usually STOP doing them? The directions in it say to start on day 12 for me, based on previous cycled, but do you usually stop once you get a or do you test until you get a negative again?
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to!
Aside from my own wedding... I've got to say, my BFF's wedding coming up next June is going to be pretty epic. I'm one of 2 MOH's, the other one is another BFF of ours, and all of the Bridesmaids, Bride and I have known each other since 1st grade. It's just such a good wedding party that it's bound to be amazing. Not to mention, the bride is an only child, so her parents are kinda splurging on her. Can't wait!
Dating: 11/14/2010
Married: 10/18/2014
TTC April 2016
BFP: 5/12/2016 ~ MC: 5/25/2016
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: Temp, OPK, HIO, PNV
R/R: Disappointed because we missed HIO yesterday when I thought I had a positive or near-positive OPK. It was pretty dark, but I think I had darker test lines before. Thought the line would get darker today but it got lighter instead.
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! Weddings with open bar are always fun! Back in my partying days, I had a friend who lived in the lofts downtown and had rooftop parties on July 4th and Memorial Day with open bar, he hired a bartender, caterer and everything. That was always a fun time!
@businesswife; fx for O confirmation soon!
@mandybeeslp; @felix08; @antoto; re:pnv, like Antoto said, pnv's help your overall health and wellness which is part of the reason why I take them while ttc. However, I also take them to decrease the chances of neural tube defects since those typically happen before a positive hpt.
@hezzer78; it can't hurt to lay there for a little!
@adirat; have fun celebrating! Your marriage has already lasted waaaaay longer than Britney's did to Jason Alexander lol
cycle/Month: 1
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: Pnv's, hio
R/R: I have no freakin clue when I ovulate. I'm pretty sure I have good cm but it also seems to be the fertile stuff all the time so that can't be right. "When in doubt, hio" is my current mantra lol
GTKY: probably all the college parties but nothing specifically jumps out at me right now.
Spellcheck
Cycle/Month: 8/8
CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: Waiting
R/R: Thank you guys so much for your kind words the other day in response to my crazy seizure post It was the first seizure I've had and I haven't had one since, which I take as a good sign. My H is awake all night watching me, poor guy. So far I've had a blood test, CT scan, and basic reflex test from the neorologist and all has come back normal. I have an MRI today and an EEG tomorrow, so hopefully they'll find something if there's something to find. If they don't find anything, they'll suspend my drivers license for 6 months ( ) and I'll just continue life as normally as I can. If they do find something... I'll deal with that then. I'm worried about what this means for TTCing. I'll feel better next week after I get the test results and have talked to my ob/gyn. The neurologist I met with did not have a good bedside manner and left me feeling pretty freaked out. I really wish this wasn't happening, but I keep reminding myself that there are so many worse things that could happen. It's not life threatening. It's manageable. It might not even effect TTCing. Don't borrow trouble! My family has been a huge support to me and my H and I'm really really glad that I have them.
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! My favorite party is watching Lord of the Rings on my couch with a glass of whiskey.
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
@RatParade FX your EEG/MRI go well! Keep us updated.
Married Since: 7/29/2012
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CD: 8 @hezzer78 woot, woot!
WAYDTGKU: Clomid, PNV, green tea, HIO, OPKs on CD10
R/R: Lots of fun posts today that I got to go through during my soozefest boredom town miz party meeting today!
CS/Q:
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! Junior year, in the fraternity section at Legion Field in 1996 with DH (who was FI at the time) and 71,000 of my closest friends as we (Alabama) beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl with a field goal at the end of the game.
Me: 42 | DH: 45
TTC since Dec. 2014
BFP #1 Oct. 2015 | MC Nov. 2015
Sept. 2016: FSH, AMH, E2, TSH, etc. all normal. | Oct. 2016: HSG all clear! | Nov. 2016: Hysteroscopy & H's SA both great results
Dec. 2016 - Follistim + TI
BFP #2 12/25/16 | Natural MC 2/13/17 | False BFP leads to D&C 4/20/17 | Emergency D&C + hysteroscopy 5/16/17
The road probably ends here
Cycle/Month: 1/1
CD: 10
WAYDTGKU: HIO ED or EOD, PNV, trying so hard not to pay too much attention to my cycle and just be relaxed. We HIO ED for 10 freaking days until my temp rose (later than expected) with my son, and it was rough. And then my beautiful, textbook perfect chart was totally wrong, and I had to have O'd 6 days before the temp rise because all early u/s showed age consistent with LMP, not my O date. I still don't understand what happened. But we clearly HIO for many many more days than we needed to, and my vag is still upset about it ;-) Anyway, I want this baby making go-round to be a little more romantic.
R/R: I just started SAH and I cannot get my ass in gear to get a good routine going. Also I miss the old Bump. Are we allowed to swear?
CS/Q: Nah
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to!
I'll jump on the wedding band wagon; it was the most fun night of my life! Second to that, probably a "rave" I went to with my best friend, we made tutus and wore striped tights and danced our assess off. It was super fun b/c it was just about dancing and music, no sweaty randos trying to hook up. Third, I swear I've never been to a bad Mormon party. I freakin' love sober cheesy party games.
Married: 5/30/2013
DSS #1: 5/25/2007
DSS #2: 1/22/2011
DS #3: 7/8/2012
BFP: 3/14/2016 ~ MC: 3/19/2016
DS #4: 4/21/17
@momtoleo My H would use that as an excuse for me to be on top the whole time. Hope your DH feels better soon!
@adirat I'll take any excuse to get a hotel room and not cook dinner
@MandyBeeSLP (and others who've commented that I'm too lazy to add) The only thing my Dr. said when I asked about TTC is that I should take a PNV. I think it's to prevent Neural Tube Defects which usually happen before you even know you're KU. It also probably doesn't hurt if you don't take a multivitamin to help you get all the vitamins and minerals you need.
@krisnicole23 I like preseed better than our non-fertility lube. If it wasn't so expensive for the little tube I'd use it all the time.
Cycle/Month: 2/1
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: PNV (I wouldn't be taking it if I wasn't TTC so I count it), Preseed during FW, BD ED during FW
R/R: AF is pretty much done. It's my first AF since my IUD was removed. When I had it in I had regular AFs but they were medium to light. This AF was heavy with clots the first few days and I was worried it would last forever but thankfully it's not.
I practically had a mini mental breakdown yesterday. Mostly AF crankiness but it was stuff I've been feeling and I cracked. DH and I always suggest cool things to do or vacations and they never happen and with CD1 I was all "Everything I want to do fails" "woe is me" blah blah blah. Basically we decided we need a trip. At first DH wanted to save all his PTO in case we have a baby this spring but there's no guarantee and we could end up without a vacation and no baby. We're planning to go home for Thanksgiving now but we aren't telling our parents so we'll surprise them!
Also, we're going to the beach this weekend which is nice. We went for my birthday last month and it rained the whole time. It was a bad birthday weekend.
CS/Q: nada
GTKY: Tell us about the best party you've ever been to! I don't like parties, at least I haven't been to one that stands out. I usually would either get shit faced or leave early.
TTC since August 2018
Me: 42 | DH: 45
TTC since Dec. 2014
BFP #1 Oct. 2015 | MC Nov. 2015
Sept. 2016: FSH, AMH, E2, TSH, etc. all normal. | Oct. 2016: HSG all clear! | Nov. 2016: Hysteroscopy & H's SA both great results
Dec. 2016 - Follistim + TI
BFP #2 12/25/16 | Natural MC 2/13/17 | False BFP leads to D&C 4/20/17 | Emergency D&C + hysteroscopy 5/16/17
The road probably ends here
TTC since August 2018
maybe?
TTC since August 2018
TTC since August 2018
Married 6-15-13
DS born 4-9-15
Septate Uterus
BFP 10/12/16--EDD 6/24/17
Married 6-15-13
DS born 4-9-15
Septate Uterus
BFP 10/12/16--EDD 6/24/17
@slavenski Ditto, your gifs are great!
TTC since August 2018
@mangomimosa Same with mine. Banning galore. And deactivations.
TTC since August 2018
TTC since August 2018