Testing Plans: 11 dpo, then 15 dpo (AF due at 10 dpo)
R/R/CS: Oh, the crazies. I've got them. The next few days are really gonna drag. I should be working harder so I can be distracted, but instead I'm staring at my chart and doing overlays and basically being batshit. C'mon, 11 DPO! Also, my boobs feel fuller the last two days and I got super-pissed at MH this morning for an offhand comment so clearly I'm KU. But then again, my uterus isn't vibrating so I guess not.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? This was inspired by the folks dealing with snow days lately. I'm looking forward to spring at the moment, but my favorite season is fall. Crunchy leaves, crisp air, layering weather, start of a new school year (no matter how old I am, I love the feeling of back-to-school).
Sorry @jmr1515 and @paturkey I sure am glad you started this early. I've been up since 3:45am, and I need a good vent (and thanks in advance to anyone who reads)
Month/Cycle: 3/2
CD/DPO: 25/10 (or 8)
Timing: -3, -1 (either way)
Testing Plans: Friday
R/R/CS: Guys, I'm having an awful morning. Work is crazy and has me stressed, I'm fighting with my mom, and I just KNOW I'm not KU this cycle. My temps suck due to not sleeping (see up at 3:45am today), but if anything they are dropping. I felt some cramping last night, and I'm pretty sure these emotions are PMS. The thing that sucks the most is that DH has huge performance anxiety. He was able to pull through this month (our timing is good!), but it was a STRUGGLE and we lucked out. We actually tried one last time, but he couldn't finish, so we stopped for this cycle. He has already made comments about worrying about having to try again next cycle if this one didn't take, and every time I try to talk to him about it he clams up and says I'm stressing him more. I've tried the nice, compassionate approach. I've tried to find the underlying problem. I've tried tough love. I've tried ignoring it. Honestly, I feel like if I knew he could at least perform next month, then I would have no problem moving onto the next cycle. But it's the fact that not knowing if he will be able to even finish that has me so extremely upset. I'm actually sitting here bawling my eyes out as I type this. I wish I could talk to my mom and try to explain why I'm so stressed (and possibly alleviate our fighting), but 1. we've never had that mother-daughter relationship where sex talks are ok (and this would include trying for baby) and 2. I don't want people to know we're trying. I'm so lucky to have this board to vent to you guys. Thanks for listening.
GTKY: I love fall. My birthday is in October and the weather is perfect. Close second is summer. I feel like spring doesn't exist anymore (atleast not where I live). We pretty much jump from winter (which lasts FOREVER) to summer.
R/R/CS: woke up with a cold and feeling very blah of course it's my 17 hour work day..already dreaming of bedtime
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I used to be strictly a summer girl - lived for my summers at the beach but this past year I found a new love for Fall. I love apple picking and pumpkin patches and going to all the farms around here - and the weather is so much more enjoyable.
Sorry @jmr1515 FX it'll be your last time in WTO @JamieK1882 I'm so sorry you're having a tough time right now! MH has had some performance anxiety also, and I know how stressful it can be. I wish I had good advice, but it usually just leads to him thinking he's the only guy it ever happens to and me thinking it's me even though I know it's not. It sucks, but at least we can bitch about it here!
Month/Cycle: 4/4
CD/DPO: 23/9
Timing: -2, -1, 0
Testing Plans: Friday, if I don't cave tomorrow.
R/R/CS: The past two mornings I've had to make myself go straight to the toilet and get out my FMU before I had the chance to test. I don't know if my willpower can hold up tomorrow.
GTKY: Fall! It's usually the best weather for disc golf and I love getting to wear my cool weather clothes. Winter is only awesome when it snows. Summer is fun until it gets to 100+ everyday. And spring we have to worry about tornadoes all of the time. We get all of the seasons in full force here.
TTGP February Sig Challenge- Valentine's Day Fail:
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Summer, 100% with Spring a close second. The minute Labor Day passes and days start getting shorter, I just feel my body shift into survival mode to get me through until April.
@JamieK1882 I'm so sorry you are having problems. We have had similar issues in the past. If you want to PM me, feel free. I can tell you a little more about what worked for us.
DS: June 2008 Married: July 2015 BFP: 5/20/16 | EDD: 1/28/17 | Twin boys born 1/16/17
Timing: meh, depending on what day I am, it could be ok, it could suck
Testing Plans: never, I learned my lesson last month
R/R/CS: I am just annoyed that I have no clue where I am in my cycle. I never got positive OPK this month, but lots of EWCM last week with almost positive wandfo. Then absolutely nothing for a week. Yesterday, CM, CP, and cramping made me think it could have been yesterday, stark white OPK. I know Clomid can F with ovulation tests, so I am trying not to read too much into it. I won't know until I get my progesterone levels taken in a week.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Fall all day long....low humidity, beautiful weather, orchards, changing leaves, football, fires in the fireplace. I love all of it:)
Testing Plans: friday before we go visit friends. I will be 10 DPO. BSC setting in. I wish I could stop the crazy. I'm smarter than expecting any type of legitimate result at 10 DPO.
R/R/CS: DS has been constipated for 5 days now with little result. I had to give him a suppository last night. H reacted almost as poorly as my 2 year old. You have to do what? Won't that hurt him? I'm not going to be any part in that, he'll hate me forever. Thanks, H. Shoving stuff up my kid's ass and having him scream and cry in pain was on the top of my list today.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Gah! If I have to choose I say fall. But they're all great for different things. I couldn't live somewhere that didn't have defined seasons.
Testing Plans: 11 dpo, then 15 dpo (AF due at 10 dpo)
R/R/CS: Oh, the crazies. I've got them. The next few days are really gonna drag. I should be working harder so I can be distracted, but instead I'm staring at my chart and doing overlays and basically being batshit. C'mon, 11 DPO! Also, my boobs feel fuller the last two days and I got super-pissed at MH this morning for an offhand comment so clearly I'm KU. But then again, my uterus isn't vibrating so I guess not.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? This was inspired by the folks dealing with snow days lately. I'm looking forward to spring at the moment, but my favorite season is fall. Crunchy leaves, crisp air, layering weather, start of a new school year (no matter how old I am, I love the feeling of back-to-school).
@Paturkey - the BSC is strong over here, too. I spent more time than I care to admit viewing charts last night. My DS also told me 'there's a baby in my belly'. We have not said anything around him about TTC. I mean, if that's not science, I don't know what is.
I'm sorry @DiFazette911 My FI reacts the same way about that. I'm like are ya serious?! He reacts same about taking DS's temp rectally as well though he has gotten a lot better about it since the beginning. It's annoying
R/R/CS: Guys, I'm having an awful morning. Work is crazy and has me stressed, I'm fighting with my mom, and I just KNOW I'm not KU this cycle. My temps suck due to not sleeping (see up at 3:45am today), but if anything they are dropping. I felt some cramping last night, and I'm pretty sure these emotions are PMS. The thing that sucks the most is that DH has huge performance anxiety. He was able to pull through this month (our timing is good!), but it was a STRUGGLE and we lucked out. We actually tried one last time, but he couldn't finish, so we stopped for this cycle. He has already made comments about worrying about having to try again next cycle if this one didn't take, and every time I try to talk to him about it he clams up and says I'm stressing him more. I've tried the nice, compassionate approach. I've tried to find the underlying problem. I've tried tough love. I've tried ignoring it. Honestly, I feel like if I knew he could at least perform next month, then I would have no problem moving onto the next cycle. But it's the fact that not knowing if he will be able to even finish that has me so extremely upset. I'm actually sitting here bawling my eyes out as I type this. I wish I could talk to my mom and try to explain why I'm so stressed (and possibly alleviate our fighting), but 1. we've never had that mother-daughter relationship where sex talks are ok (and this would include trying for baby) and 2. I don't want people to know we're trying. I'm so lucky to have this board to vent to you guys. Thanks for listening.
@JamieK1882 - does your H know all about your chart, temping etc? I don't mean this to sound shitty towards men because I generally like them, but sometimes their ignorance is our bliss. What if you comitted to EOD and don't talk about your FW, O, temping. If he just thinks he's getting sex regularly, maybe the pressure to perform would go away? I know EOD is a big commitment, but it could help.
@JamieK1882 I'm so sorry you're having a hard time with your H. I don't mean to imply you should lie to him but what if you said something like "Let's just NTNP and see what happens?" and then during your FW, just initiate like it's any other time in your cycle? It sounds misleading but if it's alleviating some of his stress, maybe it's worth it?
Month/Cycle: 6/5 (1 NTNP, 3 TTCAL)
CD/DPO: 18/3
Timing: -2
Testing Plans: 2/13 at 12 DPO but I'll probably start peeing on things at 9 DPO.
R/R/CS: I got CH this morning, yay! WTO is way more stressful for me than the TWW. My temps are being weird this cycle though. My pre-O temps are pretty normal for me but the past 3 days, my post-O temps have been climbing way higher/sooner than normal. If I get above 98 at all, it's usually my peak temp day around 7 or 8 DPO and it's usually a slow climb after the initial temp jump. Today, my temp was 98.01 at 3 DPO. I thought maybe I was just hot under the covers and curled up next to DH so I took the covers off, laid still for a few minutes and re-temped and it was even higher! I'll post my chart overlay with this cycle and last... I've been temping for 4 cycles and this is the first time my temps have done this. I know it's too early for it to mean anything but anyone have a random cycle of temps that weren't your "norm"?
Also, ignore me if I sound like a broken record... we're going on a cruise to Zika land in 18 days. Our plan was to TTA this cycle which we successfully did until -2. DH knew I was in my FW and we agreed on the POM (which we used our entire relationship prior to TTC). I guess he got a little caught up in the moment and didn't PO. I know -2 isn't great timing but not being able to consider myself out this cycle is stressing me out. The thought of losing thousands of dollars if we have to cancel makes me sick to my stomach. My parents, friends, everyone basically except others who are TTC have said "Just go anyway and use bug spray and stay on the boat!". Their non-chalant attitude has me thinking that maybe they're right and I'm just over thinking the whole thing.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Fall all the way! I LOVE it.
Testing Plans: Ugh, got yet another BFN on a wondfo this morning.
R/R/CS: I'm trying to be as realistic as possible and not hold out hope that I am the .01% that implants on cd12. So, if I am still getting BFNs today I guess I should consider myself out?
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I feel like Fall has the best of it everything :-) Not too hot, not too cold, usually not too much rain, comfortable enough to do things outside.....I love it.
@JamieK1882 I'm so sorry. That sounds like it really sucks. I wish I had some sage wisdom to offer but I don't. I can only offer hugs.
Month/Cycle: 11/10
CD/DPO: 24/8
Timing: -4, -2, -1
Testing Plans: next monday? Every day I get closer I move it up a day.
R/R/CS: if only you could see my Google history. Dear lord.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
I effing love the fall. My busy season. At work is may - august so the fall is always a reprieve of cool weather and relaxation.
Me: 31 Husby: 36 Married May 2014 TTC # 2 Since December 2021 Baby girl W born 2/2021 Our journey so far... (tw loss & infertility)
Diagnosis: Poor Egg Quality Working with an RE since March 2016 2 failed TI cycles 3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017 23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17 BFP 4.21.17 MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey: 12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted! 5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house! 1.1.20 Homestudy process started 3.14.20 First social worker visit 5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test! Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
@JamieK1882, that must be really frustrating. I'm sorry that DH is having so much trouble! Also, maybe you could test the waters with your mom? You might be surprised, you never know until you try.
Month/Cycle: 9/8
CD/DPO: 23/4
Timing: -5, -3, -1, 0
Testing Plans: Avoiding this as long as possible
R/R/CS: Had my first acupuncture session yesterday. It went pretty well, I felt really relaxed during it, but didn't really feel any different after. Maybe a little more patient than usual. But overall my anxiety feels the same. Looking forward to getting my labs done this weekend to see if my progesterone is normal (i think it will be fine). I'm just happy to be getting the first step out of the way!
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Summer, hands down. I want to love fall but my seasonal affective disorder kicks in and I hate it. I like winter when there is snow for snowboarding or snowmobiling, or ice for ice fishing but otherwise I hate being cold. Spring makes me happy but is too unpredictable as far as the weather.
@greatgiginthewomb - I know, he's not the only guy, it just really sucks when it happens, and I do tend to take it personally. I'm like, WTF you couldn't keep your hands off me when we dated!
@difazette911 - poor DS. Hope he feels better. DD had a TON of constipation issues when we first transitioned to milk, and it appears she is still prone to them. Also, yes DH knows we are trying and that I track stuff, but I TRY my hardest not to bring it up. I tried the "oh let's NTNP" last month and we had TWO episodes of unsuccessful finishing as compared to one this month when he knew I was really trying. My hope is that now that I'm tracking more consistently, I'll have a better idea of when to start (i.e not as early), hopefully so we won't need to BD as long/much.
@paturkey - I'm BSC here too even though I KNOW I'm not KU. I spent over an hour this morning staring at + charts on FF convincing myself that mine might look like theirs.
@mrscorker thanks. See my response to @difazette911 above. The other issue is that we don't have sex very often normally (usually like 1 time every other month maybe). Some people think it's weird, but it works for us (well unless TTC!!).
All-Thank you so much for reading my novel and the responses. Like I said, I would be absolutely crazy if I didn't have this board to talk to. As an update, this morning DH came downstairs as I was crying/having my pity party. He was so sweet and gave me a hug and wanted to know what was wrong and I sobbed " I can't tell you because it will just stress you out!" I eventually told him and his response was "well it only happened once last month, and we'll keep trying, and some day when we have our baby you'll look back at this and laugh." Not sure I'll laugh, but it was nice he was so sweet about it all.
Testing Plans: If my temps keep up, maybe this weekend or maybe by VDay
R/R/CS: I am putting myself over here for testing, but I have no CH and no temp spike. I started temping around CD 15 and my temp was already up in the post-O range, and has stayed way steadier than my loooong pre-O timeframes. Anyway, there's more to the story but I'm in a place where I could argue for either TWW or WTO so I'll stick around here to test and keep watching CM and temps to see if my body does something I can read on the chart. (ETA grammar)
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? The bits of spring and fall that border on summer. Those transitions have always been magical to me.
me . late 30's | h . early 40's | < 3 . 2013
*siggy warning*
ttc#1 . jul 2015
mmc . mar 2016
dx PCOS (non-IR) / subclinical hypothyroidism . summer 2016
tx metformin, levothyroxine, LP progesterone, femara + trigger + ti . fall/winter 2016 BFP . jan 2017 DD . oct 2017
ntnp #2 . summer 2018 mmc x2 . sep 2018 & may 2019 RE workup, dx MTHFR mutation, ultimately unexplained . summer 2019 surprise BFP . aug 2019 DS . may 2020
dx Hashimoto's 2023 ttc #3 . feb 2023 mmc . apr 2023 mmc x3 . mar/jul/aug 2024 dx elevated nk cells tx ovasitol, levothyroxine, baby aspirin, LP progesterone, lovenox, prednisone, femara + ti . jan 2025 BFP . mar 2025
**** Lurker TW signature **** I really don't know why I care but @MRSCORKER your post about "their non-chalant attitude made me think that maybe they're right and I'm reacting" rubbed me the very wrong way this morning. I've seen all your post in the zika post I made because I receive the notification and I remember clearly reading that your doctor was really strict about TTA and not taking any risks and here you are all non chalantly saying that you might just go if you are pregnant... I'm sorry but I feel this is truly irresponsible and unfair to your potential unborn child. And yes you did sound like a broken record because you have been talking about this for months and second month in a row "ooopsy DH didn't pulled at the right timing".... Flame me I don't care mic drop......
Rave: As some of you know, after the holidays DH & I relocated from Chicago to Minneapolis for him to accept a new job offer. I was unable to transfer in my old position so I have been playing housewife & focusing on distressing (my old job was crazy to say the least). I have been interviewing the last month for a position that seems made for me & freaking out about it, I hate interviewing (does anyone like it?!) Well anywho- I found out this morning - I GOT THE JOB!!! Doing some celebrating with the DH this evening #DrinkUntilItsPink! Huzzah!
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Oh fall, absolutely 100% hands down! Nothing better than jeans & a hoodie, gorgeous sunny days & crisp fall nights. Crunchy Leaves. Pumpkin EVERYTHING- yes I am one of those. Apple orchards. Harvest @ the farm. Watching DH in the tractor (drool). Soups. Boots. Snuggles. Fires. YES YES YES.
ME: 31 | DH: 31
Married: April 2015
TTC (BBT & FF) #1: April 2015 (Off BC: January 2015)
@fitlady21 I don't know who you are but I've offered support for the past 6 months on this board and was a very active member so no I'm not rubbing it in everyone's face and I posted a warning so you could just pass your way if you are not happy. This board is not private and seeing such non sense deserve some flaming. good luck
I appreciate your warning but thought the phrase "new mama bear" was just plain insensitive. I know that you have been a supported member of this board and I'm truly happy that you are now pregnant. Just please try to be more sensitive in your words. I'm sure you can remember how it was to be in my shoes (now on my 8th month of trying). I'm not trying to flame you in anyway. Just saying again, I found those words insensitive and would greatly appreciate it if you would try to refrain from any more insensitive phrases.
@fitlady21 Sorry it rubbed you the wrong way, I changed the words because I don't want to hurt anyone here, but I certainly don't change my opinion on what I wrote in my original post (my reason to post in the first place).
**** Lurker TW signature **** I really don't know why I care but @MRSCORKER your post about "their non-chalant attitude made me think that maybe they're right and I'm reacting" rubbed me the very wrong way this morning. I've seen all your post in the zika post I made because I receive the notification and I remember clearly reading that your doctor was really strict about TTA and not taking any risks and here you are all non chalantly saying that you might just go if you are pregnant... I'm sorry it might be the newly mama bear in me but I feel this is truly irresponsible and unfair to your potential unborn child. And yes you did sound like a broken record because you have been talking about this for months and second month in a row "ooopsy DH didn't pulled at the right timing".... Flame me I don't care mic drop......
You're totally right, the doc was clear on her thoughts. I would absolutely not go if I were KU. I've already been through a loss and I'm not risking anything in the future. I guess it came out wrong, I didn't mean to non-chalantly imply that I would I just go anyway. It was more a thought that maybe my view is skewed because I'm in a TTC bubble. This isn't the second month in a row of an "oopsie", we didn't even know about Zika last cycle so we weren't trying to avoid. Sorry to rub you the wrong way, I'll admit I've been harping on this a lot lately, It's just been weighing on my mind. I'll leave it out of any future posts.
Me: 32 & DH: 37
Married: November 2014
TTC #1 Since: October 2015
BFP #1: 11/18/15 - CP BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16 IT'S A BOY!!!! DS Born 10/16/16
Posting my tww stuff later, BUT to start with: @MRSCORKER has consistently been one of the sweetest, most supportive, even-headed members here. In no way, shape, or form did she insinuate that she would put a vacation ahead of a pregnancy.
And yes, your "mama bear" comment is insensitive, full stop. If you have an opinion, let it rest on your support of science - and please provide sources - and not a new-fangled sense of suddenly having insight that the rest of us do not.
Me: 36 | DH 35, Married 2007
TTC #1 June 2015 April 2016 - AMH, FSH, Progesterone normal June 2016 - HSG clear *TW* BFP - Aug16, demise confirmed Sep16, incomplete m/c, D&C Nov16 BFP 3/27/17, edd 12/7/17 DS - 12/9/17 TTC #2 December 2018 BFP 2/22/19, edd 11/4/19 DD - 11/1/19 My Chart
R/R/CS: Doing well, off work today so just enjoying it. I manually put in my O date today... So this is all off of me interpreting my chart more than FF interpreting. It made me feel in charge! -cue Rosie the Riveter pose-
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
Fall, always, everytime.
@JamieK1882 - This is going to get super TMI, but yknow it's a TMI topic so... we've had performance anxiety issues in the past, and have worked through it. We started working on this a while back before we were TTC, so that took some of the stress away, but it was definitely hurting our sex life because I felt unattractive or like something was wrong with me, and he felt like something was wrong with him and he wasn't manly enough. We eventually decided it was stress related. When he has a lot of stress in his day, it's a lot harder - and that's still a thing. He also gets anxious during the act about how I'm feeling, so a lot of it is just me reassuring him. I don't know if any of this helps you, but I wanted to tell you so you know it happens to lots of couples and you can move forward from it! If you want, you can PM me and we can go a little more into detail... I've got a few tricks up my sleeve and lots of suggestions!
@MRSCORKER - Mosquitos can be really sneaky, so I would say absolutely cake yourself in bug spray if you're going, and maybe even carry around one of those pocket bug deterrent things. Maybe wear light long sleeves and light leggings when on the deck? I'm not sure how far I would take it if I was on a ship in the Caribbean. Be sure to carry spray with you for after pool use! Also... Don't leave things out of future posts because you feel like a broken record. Like all we post about every day is TTC, it's ALL a broken record, but we are all lopsidedly spinning together.
ALSO - @BusinessWife - if you're in the TWW today, thank you for that super informative post yesterday. It really eased my green tea fears. I found some things last night about green tea inhibiting absorption of folic acid, but only in very large amounts, so I've decided I just one take my PNV near a time I drink green tea. And I think I'm going to buy raspberry leaf tea next time I'm at the health food store. Decreasing my caffeine intake has made me crazy for some kind of warm liquid.
R/R/CS- Question: If you have been on progesterone supplements, has it affected the timing of your period? I am on them and my RE wants me to come in on February 12 (which would be 16 DPO) for a pregnancy test. My normal luteal phase is 10-11 days (sometimes less) and my FF test date is Monday (12 DPO). Obviously I am not going to wait until 16 DPO to take my first test. I guess my question is, if progesterone is supposed to extend my luteal phase so I can hopefully implant, won't I still generally have a valid answer by 12 DPO? So if it is negative on 12 DPO, couldn't I responsibly stop taking the progesterone and get my period somewhat on time?
ETA: not going to do anything without the advice of my RE, just want to hear other people's experiences.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I've always been a summer person, but getting a little older (and less in shape!) has made me a little more uncomfortable in the extreme heat. This year may have turned me into a fall person.
@MRSCORKER We are here to support each other and listen to each other's concerns. Sometimes those concerns are recurring, I know that mine are. So, please don't let anyone stop you or shame you from sharing here. You have been nothing but sweet and supportive and you deserve to be shown the same respect!
R/R/CS- Question: If you have been on progesterone supplements, has it affected the timing of your period? I am on them and my RE wants me to come in on February 12 (which would be 16 DPO) for a pregnancy test. My normal luteal phase is 10-11 days (sometimes less) and my FF test date is Monday (12 DPO). Obviously I am not going to wait until 16 DPO to take my first test. I guess my question is, if progesterone is supposed to extend my luteal phase so I can hopefully implant, won't I still generally have a valid answer by 12 DPO? So if it is negative on 12 DPO, couldn't I responsibly stop taking the progesterone and get my period somewhat on time?
ETA QBF *lurking from WTO*
The progesterone won't affect a HPT, so yes, you should have a valid answer by 12dpo. FWIW, I turned a BFN yesterday and quit taking my progesterone a day early. Figure, why keep putting off the inevitable AF for any longer than I have to. GL and FX for a BFP! I say if you turn a +HPT call them and get in for your beta sooner.
JamieK1882 I’m
sorry! We haven’t had these issues while TTC but my hubby used to have similar
problems and its sooo hard on both of you. What really sucks is any medications
for it are out when TTC bc it reduces sperm count to practically nothing. I
know no one wants to take time out but maybe taking a month off may help ease
his anxiety? (or you keep trying but he thinks youre taking a month off?)
@mrscorker I had a different
comment planned but I don’t like conflict and I see this has been a heated
topic. BUT if cancelling is the way you want to go, I would first look and see
if its too late to buy trip insurance! And you should feel comfortable in
whatever decision YOU make. Its your choice. Also if you cant get insurance and will be out
all that cash for the cruise I would consider 1. If you stay on the boat at
port you will likely be safe. I have been on a lot of cruises and have only encountered
mosquitoes in port. (also if a stop is in Jamaica, just FYI I was eaten alive by
mosquitos there… but Ive never really ran into any anywhere else ) and 2. See if they will give you credit towards a future
cruise instead!
**TW bfp and losses
mentioned**
Month/Cycle: 2/ 2
TTAL
CD/DPO: 29 /
13dpo
Timing: -4,
-2, 0
Testing Plans:
Well I got my official bfp today on a frer. Im still actually really nervous
about this after my loss but I guess it means I am officially KU.
R/R/CS: Im
finally over my stomach bug!!!!
GTKY: Spring,
Summer, Winter or Fall? Really anything but winter, I HATE the cold!!!!!
Bring on that Texas heat! J
@cwirth89 Thanks, that's what I was thinking. I don't really see a reason to keep taking progesterone and delay my period for who knows how long when I know I have a BFN. If I somehow get a positive I'll definitely call right away for betas.
Re: TWW Wednesday
CD/DPO: 24/8
Timing: Most of them
Testing Plans: 11 dpo, then 15 dpo (AF due at 10 dpo)
R/R/CS: Oh, the crazies. I've got them. The next few days are really gonna drag. I should be working harder so I can be distracted, but instead I'm staring at my chart and doing overlays and basically being batshit. C'mon, 11 DPO! Also, my boobs feel fuller the last two days and I got super-pissed at MH this morning for an offhand comment so clearly I'm KU. But then again, my uterus isn't vibrating so I guess not.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? This was inspired by the folks dealing with snow days lately. I'm looking forward to spring at the moment, but my favorite season is fall. Crunchy leaves, crisp air, layering weather, start of a new school year (no matter how old I am, I love the feeling of back-to-school).
Surgery Dec 2016: submucosal fibroid removed
Awaiting RE appointment
Sorry @jmr1515 and @paturkey I sure am glad you started this early. I've been up since 3:45am, and I need a good vent (and thanks in advance to anyone who reads)
Month/Cycle: 3/2
CD/DPO: 25/10 (or 8)
Timing: -3, -1 (either way)
Testing Plans: Friday
R/R/CS: Guys, I'm having an awful morning. Work is crazy and has me stressed, I'm fighting with my mom, and I just KNOW I'm not KU this cycle. My temps suck due to not sleeping (see up at 3:45am today), but if anything they are dropping. I felt some cramping last night, and I'm pretty sure these emotions are PMS. The thing that sucks the most is that DH has huge performance anxiety. He was able to pull through this month (our timing is good!), but it was a STRUGGLE and we lucked out. We actually tried one last time, but he couldn't finish, so we stopped for this cycle. He has already made comments about worrying about having to try again next cycle if this one didn't take, and every time I try to talk to him about it he clams up and says I'm stressing him more. I've tried the nice, compassionate approach. I've tried to find the underlying problem. I've tried tough love. I've tried ignoring it. Honestly, I feel like if I knew he could at least perform next month, then I would have no problem moving onto the next cycle. But it's the fact that not knowing if he will be able to even finish that has me so extremely upset. I'm actually sitting here bawling my eyes out as I type this. I wish I could talk to my mom and try to explain why I'm so stressed (and possibly alleviate our fighting), but 1. we've never had that mother-daughter relationship where sex talks are ok (and this would include trying for baby) and 2. I don't want people to know we're trying. I'm so lucky to have this board to vent to you guys. Thanks for listening.
GTKY: I love fall. My birthday is in October and the weather is perfect. Close second is summer. I feel like spring doesn't exist anymore (atleast not where I live). We pretty much jump from winter (which lasts FOREVER) to summer.
Month/Cycle: 2/2
CD/DPO: 18/5
Timing: -2, +1
Testing Plans: 12 DPO when AF is due
R/R/CS: woke up with a cold and feeling very blah
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I used to be strictly a summer girl - lived for my summers at the beach but this past year I found a new love for Fall. I love apple picking and pumpkin patches and going to all the farms around here - and the weather is so much more enjoyable.
DX Diminished Ovarian Reserve, Factor V Leiden Mutation, Secondary Infertility
MFI (SA #1Count 11mill, Motility: 18%, Morphology: 1%)
AMH .328 | FSH 13.2
@JamieK1882 I'm so sorry you're having a tough time right now! MH has had some performance anxiety also, and I know how stressful it can be. I wish I had good advice, but it usually just leads to him thinking he's the only guy it ever happens to and me thinking it's me even though I know it's not. It sucks, but at least we can bitch about it here!
Month/Cycle: 4/4
CD/DPO: 23/9
Timing: -2, -1, 0
Testing Plans: Friday, if I don't cave tomorrow.
R/R/CS: The past two mornings I've had to make myself go straight to the toilet and get out my FMU before I had the chance to test. I don't know if my willpower can hold up tomorrow.
GTKY: Fall! It's usually the best weather for disc golf and I love getting to wear my cool weather clothes. Winter is only awesome when it snows. Summer is fun until it gets to 100+ everyday. And spring we have to worry about tornadoes all of the time. We get all of the seasons in full force here.
Me: 25 - DH: 30
CD/DPO: 19/5
Timing: -5, -1
Testing Plans: None, unless AF doesn't show
R/R/CS: Nothing TTC related.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Summer, 100% with Spring a close second. The minute Labor Day passes and days start getting shorter, I just feel my body shift into survival mode to get me through until April.
@JamieK1882 I'm so sorry you are having problems. We have had similar issues in the past. If you want to PM me, feel free. I can tell you a little more about what worked for us.
Married: July 2015
BFP: 5/20/16 | EDD: 1/28/17 | Twin boys born 1/16/17
CD/DPO: 22/who the f knows, either day 1 or 6
Timing: meh, depending on what day I am, it could be ok, it could suck
Testing Plans: never, I learned my lesson last month
R/R/CS: I am just annoyed that I have no clue where I am in my cycle. I never got positive OPK this month, but lots of EWCM last week with almost positive wandfo. Then absolutely nothing for a week. Yesterday, CM, CP, and cramping made me think it could have been yesterday, stark white OPK. I know Clomid can F with ovulation tests, so I am trying not to read too much into it. I won't know until I get my progesterone levels taken in a week.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Fall all day long....low humidity, beautiful weather, orchards, changing leaves, football, fires in the fireplace. I love all of it:)
CD/DPO: 54 / 4
Timing: -3, -1
Testing Plans: Next Friday for drinking purposes...who am i kidding I will being using Wondfos starting 10DPO...
R/R/CS: I hate the TWW....i can't work, I can't think about anything other than this! Its painful...
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
Fall and Winter in Florida....I love wearing "winter" clothes
Me:31 H:31
DX: MFI - 1% Morph
12/16 -IVF #1 - Antagonist Protocol w/ Lupron trigger
ER - 11 retrieved- 9 mature - 7 fertilized - 3 sent for PGS on day 5 - No normals (1 XXX Embryo - may use in future)
3/17 - IVF #2 - Antagonist Protocol w/ HCG trigger
ER- 13 retrieved - 11 mature - 8 fertilized - 2 sent for PGS on day 5 -2 Normal
FET #1 - 5/16/17 - BFP! - Beta #1 5/25 - 156 - Beta #2 5/30 - 2562 - Beta #3 6/1 - 5191!
CD/DPO: 22/8
Timing: -4, -3, -1
Testing Plans: friday before we go visit friends. I will be 10 DPO. BSC setting in. I wish I could stop the crazy. I'm smarter than expecting any type of legitimate result at 10 DPO.
R/R/CS:
DS has been constipated for 5 days now with little result. I had to give him a suppository last night. H reacted almost as poorly as my 2 year old. You have to do what? Won't that hurt him? I'm not going to be any part in that, he'll hate me forever. Thanks, H. Shoving stuff up my kid's ass and having him scream and cry in pain was on the top of my list today.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Gah! If I have to choose I say fall. But they're all great for different things. I couldn't live somewhere that didn't have defined seasons.
@Paturkey - the BSC is strong over here, too. I spent more time than I care to admit viewing charts last night. My DS also told me 'there's a baby in my belly'. We have not said anything around him about TTC. I mean, if that's not science, I don't know what is.
DX Diminished Ovarian Reserve, Factor V Leiden Mutation, Secondary Infertility
MFI (SA #1Count 11mill, Motility: 18%, Morphology: 1%)
AMH .328 | FSH 13.2
Month/Cycle: 6/5 (1 NTNP, 3 TTCAL)
CD/DPO: 18/3
Timing: -2
Testing Plans: 2/13 at 12 DPO but I'll probably start peeing on things at 9 DPO.
R/R/CS: I got CH this morning, yay! WTO is way more stressful for me than the TWW. My temps are being weird this cycle though. My pre-O temps are pretty normal for me but the past 3 days, my post-O temps have been climbing way higher/sooner than normal. If I get above 98 at all, it's usually my peak temp day around 7 or 8 DPO and it's usually a slow climb after the initial temp jump. Today, my temp was 98.01 at 3 DPO. I thought maybe I was just hot under the covers and curled up next to DH so I took the covers off, laid still for a few minutes and re-temped and it was even higher! I'll post my chart overlay with this cycle and last... I've been temping for 4 cycles and this is the first time my temps have done this. I know it's too early for it to mean anything but anyone have a random cycle of temps that weren't your "norm"?
Also, ignore me if I sound like a broken record... we're going on a cruise to Zika land in 18 days. Our plan was to TTA this cycle which we successfully did until -2. DH knew I was in my FW and we agreed on the POM (which we used our entire relationship prior to TTC). I guess he got a little caught up in the moment and didn't PO. I know -2 isn't great timing but not being able to consider myself out this cycle is stressing me out. The thought of losing thousands of dollars if we have to cancel makes me sick to my stomach. My parents, friends, everyone basically except others who are TTC have said "Just go anyway and use bug spray and stay on the boat!". Their non-chalant attitude has me thinking that maybe they're right and I'm just over thinking the whole thing.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
Fall all the way! I LOVE it.
Me: 32 & DH: 37
BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16
IT'S A BOY!!!!
DS Born 10/16/16
CD/DPO: 25/12
Timing: -4, -2, +1
Testing Plans: Ugh, got yet another BFN on a wondfo this morning.
R/R/CS: I'm trying to be as realistic as possible and not hold out hope that I am the .01% that implants on cd12. So, if I am still getting BFNs today I guess I should consider myself out?
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I feel like Fall has the best of it everything :-) Not too hot, not too cold, usually not too much rain, comfortable enough to do things outside.....I love it.
Month/Cycle: 11/10
CD/DPO: 24/8
Timing: -4, -2, -1
Testing Plans: next monday? Every day I get closer I move it up a day.
R/R/CS: if only you could see my Google history. Dear lord.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
I effing love the fall. My busy season. At work is may - august so the fall is always a reprieve of cool weather and relaxation.
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
Month/Cycle: 9/8
CD/DPO: 23/4
Timing: -5, -3, -1, 0
Testing Plans: Avoiding this as long as possible
R/R/CS: Had my first acupuncture session yesterday. It went pretty well, I felt really relaxed during it, but didn't really feel any different after. Maybe a little more patient than usual. But overall my anxiety feels the same. Looking forward to getting my labs done this weekend to see if my progesterone is normal (i think it will be fine). I'm just happy to be getting the first step out of the way!
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall?
Summer, hands down. I want to love fall but my seasonal affective disorder kicks in and I hate it. I like winter when there is snow for snowboarding or snowmobiling, or ice for ice fishing but otherwise I hate being cold. Spring makes me happy but is too unpredictable as far as the weather.
CD/DPO: 24/5
Timing: -3, -2, -1
Testing: Feb 12 at 14DPO
R/R/CS: Someone plowed out driveway while we were both at work last night! What a nice surprise to come home to!
GTKY: Fall is my favorite. I also enjoy summer because we kayak a lot.
@marley629 hope you feel better!
@greatgiginthewomb - I know, he's not the only guy, it just really sucks when it happens, and I do tend to take it personally. I'm like, WTF you couldn't keep your hands off me when we dated!
@sldp123 -YGPM
@difazette911 - poor DS. Hope he feels better. DD had a TON of constipation issues when we first transitioned to milk, and it appears she is still prone to them. Also, yes DH knows we are trying and that I track stuff, but I TRY my hardest not to bring it up. I tried the "oh let's NTNP" last month and we had TWO episodes of unsuccessful finishing as compared to one this month when he knew I was really trying. My hope is that now that I'm tracking more consistently, I'll have a better idea of when to start (i.e not as early), hopefully so we won't need to BD as long/much.
@paturkey - I'm BSC here too even though I KNOW I'm not KU. I spent over an hour this morning staring at + charts on FF convincing myself that mine might look like theirs.
@mrscorker thanks. See my response to @difazette911 above. The other issue is that we don't have sex very often normally (usually like 1 time every other month maybe). Some people think it's weird, but it works for us (well unless TTC!!).
All-Thank you so much for reading my novel and the responses. Like I said, I would be absolutely crazy if I didn't have this board to talk to. As an update, this morning DH came downstairs as I was crying/having my pity party. He was so sweet and gave me a hug and wanted to know what was wrong and I sobbed " I can't tell you because it will just stress you out!" I eventually told him and his response was "well it only happened once last month, and we'll keep trying, and some day when we have our baby you'll look back at this and laugh." Not sure I'll laugh, but it was nice he was so sweet about it all.
Married: May 2008
DD Born: March 2018
DS Born: April 2019
Due with #3 December 2020!
CD/DPO: 31/7
Timing: -5, -4, -3, -2
Testing Plans: none unless AF is late
R/R/CS: I wish the next week would go by faster. AF is due on CD13 - Can it just be next week wednesday already?
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? End of spring/beginning of summer. I love the pool!
CD/DPO: 27/14 or 3 or not at all
Timing: Good either way
Testing Plans: If my temps keep up, maybe this weekend or maybe by VDay
R/R/CS: I am putting myself over here for testing, but I have no CH and no temp spike. I started temping around CD 15 and my temp was already up in the post-O range, and has stayed way steadier than my loooong pre-O timeframes. Anyway, there's more to the story but I'm in a place where I could argue for either TWW or WTO so I'll stick around here to test and keep watching CM and temps to see if my body does something I can read on the chart. (ETA grammar)
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? The bits of spring and fall that border on summer. Those transitions have always been magical to me.
*siggy warning*
mmc . mar 2016
dx PCOS (non-IR) / subclinical hypothyroidism . summer 2016
tx metformin, levothyroxine, LP progesterone, femara + trigger + ti . fall/winter 2016
BFP . jan 2017
DD . oct 2017
ntnp #2 . summer 2018
mmc x2 . sep 2018 & may 2019
RE workup, dx MTHFR mutation, ultimately unexplained . summer 2019
surprise BFP . aug 2019
DS . may 2020
dx Hashimoto's 2023
ttc #3 . feb 2023
mmc . apr 2023
mmc x3 . mar/jul/aug 2024
dx elevated nk cells
tx ovasitol, levothyroxine, baby aspirin, LP progesterone, lovenox, prednisone, femara + ti . jan 2025
BFP . mar 2025
I really don't know why I care but @MRSCORKER your post about "their non-chalant attitude made me think that maybe they're right and I'm reacting" rubbed me the very wrong way this morning. I've seen all your post in the zika post I made because I receive the notification and I remember clearly reading that your doctor was really strict about TTA and not taking any risks and here you are all non chalantly saying that you might just go if you are pregnant... I'm sorry but I feel this is truly irresponsible and unfair to your potential unborn child. And yes you did sound like a broken record because you have been talking about this for months and second month in a row "ooopsy DH didn't pulled at the right timing".... Flame me I don't care
mic drop......
ETA: word change to respect sensitivity
Thanks for throwing it in our face that you're now a "new mama bear" and we are not.
Month/Cycle: 9/9
CD/DPO: 17/2
Timing: -2 -1 0 1
Testing Plans: none until AF is late
Rave: As some of you know, after the holidays DH & I relocated from Chicago to Minneapolis for him to accept a new job offer. I was unable to transfer in my old position so I have been playing housewife & focusing on distressing (my old job was crazy to say the least). I have been interviewing the last month for a position that seems made for me & freaking out about it, I hate interviewing (does anyone like it?!) Well anywho- I found out this morning - I GOT THE JOB!!! Doing some celebrating with the DH this evening #DrinkUntilItsPink! Huzzah!
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Oh fall, absolutely 100% hands down! Nothing better than jeans & a hoodie, gorgeous sunny days & crisp fall nights. Crunchy Leaves. Pumpkin EVERYTHING- yes I am one of those. Apple orchards. Harvest @ the farm. Watching DH in the tractor (drool). Soups. Boots. Snuggles. Fires. YES YES YES.
ME: 31 | DH: 31
Married: April 2015
TTC (BBT & FF) #1: April 2015 (Off BC: January 2015)
Fur Baby: 1 English Mastiff (Rupert)
good luck
I appreciate your warning but thought the phrase "new mama bear" was just plain insensitive. I know that you have been a supported member of this board and I'm truly happy that you are now pregnant. Just please try to be more sensitive in your words. I'm sure you can remember how it was to be in my shoes (now on my 8th month of trying). I'm not trying to flame you in anyway. Just saying again, I found those words insensitive and would greatly appreciate it if you would try to refrain from any more insensitive phrases.
Me: 32 & DH: 37
BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16
IT'S A BOY!!!!
DS Born 10/16/16
Thank you! I really appreciate it.
@MRSCORKER has consistently been one of the sweetest, most supportive, even-headed members here. In no way, shape, or form did she insinuate that she would put a vacation ahead of a pregnancy.
And yes, your "mama bear" comment is insensitive, full stop. If you have an opinion, let it rest on your support of science - and please provide sources - and not a new-fangled sense of suddenly having insight that the rest of us do not.
April 2016 - AMH, FSH, Progesterone normal
June 2016 - HSG clear
*TW* BFP - Aug16, demise confirmed Sep16, incomplete m/c, D&C Nov16
BFP 3/27/17, edd 12/7/17
DS - 12/9/17
TTC #2 December 2018
BFP 2/22/19, edd 11/4/19
DD - 11/1/19
My Chart
Month/Cycle: 10/9
CD/DPO: 23/ 7 DPO
Timing: -3, -1, O
Testing Plans: probably Saturday at 10DPO
R/R/CS- Question: If you have been on progesterone supplements, has it affected the timing of your period? I am on them and my RE wants me to come in on February 12 (which would be 16 DPO) for a pregnancy test. My normal luteal phase is 10-11 days (sometimes less) and my FF test date is Monday (12 DPO). Obviously I am not going to wait until 16 DPO to take my first test. I guess my question is, if progesterone is supposed to extend my luteal phase so I can hopefully implant, won't I still generally have a valid answer by 12 DPO? So if it is negative on 12 DPO, couldn't I responsibly stop taking the progesterone and get my period somewhat on time?
ETA: not going to do anything without the advice of my RE, just want to hear other people's experiences.
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? I've always been a summer person, but getting a little older (and less in shape!) has made me a little more uncomfortable in the extreme heat. This year may have turned me into a fall person.
JamieK1882 I’m sorry! We haven’t had these issues while TTC but my hubby used to have similar problems and its sooo hard on both of you. What really sucks is any medications for it are out when TTC bc it reduces sperm count to practically nothing. I know no one wants to take time out but maybe taking a month off may help ease his anxiety? (or you keep trying but he thinks youre taking a month off?)
@mrscorker I had a different comment planned but I don’t like conflict and I see this has been a heated topic. BUT if cancelling is the way you want to go, I would first look and see if its too late to buy trip insurance! And you should feel comfortable in whatever decision YOU make. Its your choice. Also if you cant get insurance and will be out all that cash for the cruise I would consider 1. If you stay on the boat at port you will likely be safe. I have been on a lot of cruises and have only encountered mosquitoes in port. (also if a stop is in Jamaica, just FYI I was eaten alive by mosquitos there… but Ive never really ran into any anywhere else ) and 2. See if they will give you credit towards a future cruise instead!
**TW bfp and losses mentioned**
Month/Cycle: 2/ 2 TTAL
CD/DPO: 29 / 13dpo
Timing: -4, -2, 0
Testing Plans: Well I got my official bfp today on a frer. Im still actually really nervous about this after my loss but I guess it means I am officially KU.
R/R/CS: Im finally over my stomach bug!!!!
GTKY: Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall? Really anything but winter, I HATE the cold!!!!! Bring on that Texas heat! J
Thanks for the advice. We will cross that bridge if necessary. DH said he would call and beg for a credit. He's good at that stuff
ETA: if they won't give us a credit, oh well. We'll lose our money. We can always make more.
Me: 32 & DH: 37
BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16
IT'S A BOY!!!!
DS Born 10/16/16