We started TTC at the end of September, but other than knowing the first day of my LMP, I didn't track anything (no charting, temping, ovulation tests, etc.). I did have some ovulation symptoms that I noticed, and we did get a BFP on 10/24, but I experienced an early MC on 10/31 at 5 weeks. So, since it's hard to say what my cycle will do post-MC, I'm charting and using O tests, not to time intercourse, but simply so that I know about when ovulation took place if we do conceive this cycle. My thing is, we have intercourse regularly (4-6 times per week) and I figure we'll definitely do it within the right window as long as we keep that up, and this whole temping and charting and taking a daily ovulation test is all exhausting to me. I've also read a lot of articles about why people fail to conceive, and one of the main points I read was that people incorrectly time their intercourse. Do people really sleep together that seldom that they completely miss almost an entire week of fertile days? Am I a total weirdo for actually wanting to have regular intercourse, even on days/weeks when I'm probably not fertile?
So, maybe it's none of my business but I'm curious - why do YOU track your bbt or take regular ovulation tests (or why do you choose not to)? I will probably be opting not to after this cycle. It just kind of sucks the fun out of what should be a really fun activity, in my opinion. But I'd like to hear the opinions of some other members!
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Re: Why do YOU track your ovulation? Just curious... (possible TW - loss mentioned, maybe TMI?)
Everyone has different sex drives and frequencies that work for them. For some people it's every day, for some it's once ever couple of weeks. None of that is weird or wrong.
Eta: ttc for me is NOT fun. We are desperate. It is what it is.
Also, I'm very sorry for your loss
Also to try to gauge for future cycles when we should be timing. I don't use opk (too expensive where I live and shipping isn't an option)
Eta: I'm sorry for your loss
I'm with @babymish I do not really find this fun. I'm content with sex once a week. Sometimes every other week. Honestly aiming for sex 3 times a week or more than that is hard for me. I've finally gotten more on board with 2 times but it takes an honest effort on my part. The more knowledge I have about my cycle I'm hoping will make for better outcomes. And different work shifts does not make any of that easy when frequently we don't even see each other awake all work week.
Like @MamaBish I temp/OPK to time sex and confirm ovulation. I have long cycles and thinking I was a week plus late the first chart-less go-round was awful.
There is a thread from July called "Why do you love charting?" that I loved reading. I've thought about starting a new thread along the same lines since we have so many new ladies here. But without resurrecting the thread, it's got lots of great input to read through. So sorry, I don't know how to copy/paste the link on mobile, but you can search for it in the search bar.
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Yes, sex drives greatly vary.
Usually we would only BD once or twice weekly. For really good chances, it's best to be in the three days surrounding ovulation: Two before and the day of. So even twice weekly, we may have missed it completely.
Even if we had sex every day, I would still like to know what my body is doing. It is very comforting to me to know that I AM ovulating. It's also good for me to be aware of the fact that I may have a short luteal phase. I feel like I will have a head start if we need to go in for testing or medical interventions.
Also, as @mamabish said, TTC is no longer a fun activity, as much as I wish it could be.
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That's awesome that you have intercourse pretty regularly! But not everyone is the same. H and I very so much month to month (or even week to week) that I think it might be helpful to have an idea of when we really need prioritize the deed over, you know, just going to bed, or getting into the office early, or traveling this week for work vs that week (H travels for about a week each month, but he can schedule it). Depending on you and your husband your fertile window might be shorter than a full week as well. Every body is different. Knowing exactly when O will likely occur can occur can help some couples conceive faster.
Most of the reason why I decided to start charting is straight up curiosity. You can learn so much about your body and fertility through charting your BBT that you just can't get otherwise. I've always been curious about it even when not TTC, but now that I am TTC I have a bit of extra motivation to try it out.
And I'm sorry for your loss.
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For me it's to time sex and to confirm that I'm actually ovulating.
When not ttc, we normally have sex once every week or two. We're perfectly happy with that. I agree with pp that ttc is NOT fun for me either. DH and I love each other very much, but we have a hard time getting in the mood to BD as often as is needed to have a good chance of conceiving, and having sex when you don't feel like it is really awful.
I also have PCOS which means my cycles are really long, not very regular and sometimes I just don't ovulate. When we first started ttc #1, I thought I educated myself but the reading I did told me that we should have sex at least EOD starting on cd 10 and ending a few days after a positive opk. Well when you have 35 day cycles and pretty much never turn an opk that's a lot of sex! We never had sex just for fun anymore, there was a lot of guilt if someone wasn't in the mood for a few days, we were pretty miserable.
This time around I've learned a lot about how to be more accurate with our timing. We still try hard during my FW but because we know what we're doing, we actually enjoy having lots of sex during that time because we know that once it's over we can take a break without feeling guilty, and just have sex when and if we feel like it, no strings attached.
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Eta: sorry for your loss
Temping for me, has a lot more perks than just for baby making... When my temp is consistently lower than it should, it points to hyperthyroidism which means my thyroid Meds need to be adjusted.
Also, I do not always ovulate bc of this problem... So it's nice to know which cycles I shouldn't get my hopes up and which tww's I allow myself to drink wine. Not to mention the fact that my ob gyn likes to know if I'm not able to confirm an ovulation.... She preaches TCOYF. Anovulatoon many times is the cue that something isn't quite right. So far, TTC charting has caught a) hypothyroidism which lead to the finding of b) hashimotos an autoimmune disorder c) which required testing that subsequently caught thyroid cancer. Oh and d) massive cyst on one of my ovaries. Edit to add that all of these tests were ordered by my obgyn who did the labs bc my chart were so insane
I am so grateful for charting, I want to temp chart for the rest of my life (I say this now... Lol, I may change my mind). I LOVE LOVE LOVE knowing my body this well.
My hubs occasionally travels for work too. Charting helps bc sometimes he has control over when during That month or week he gets to be away from home.
Also, I wish I had that sex drive. I just don't.... Once a week is more than enough for me. I do It more than that just because we want a baby. judge me if you must on that one... I know it sounds bad.
I also do not think it's fun anymore. Was at first. After a year, i lost that excitement and just became bitter. The thought of never being called mommy scares me so much that I have a hard time enjoying anything.
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Last month I ovulated earlier than normal, the days leading up to it we were on vacation, with 8.5 y/o DD so no chance for sexy time. I knew we had no real chance at pregnancy since we didn't have sex till we had been home a day. Which was a day after ovulation. Had I not been temping and using OPKs I would not have known that we had no chance, which would have made the BFN and/or AF more difficult to handle. Though after this long, it's not so bad.
This month I know we have a pretty decent shot, after we have 12 of these pretty decent shots I know we will need to look into medical interventions. We had 12 NTNP and I have no idea what happened those months after getting off BC. Did I ovulate every month? Did we even remotely come close to having sex during my fertile window? How many months did we not even have a shot? I just don't know. I don't like not knowing, that's the stressful thing to me
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I'm sorry for your loss. I have highly irregular cycles that are rarely the same length, ranging from 30-100+ days. I began tracking my BBT so I could know when in my long cycles I O. Then I came to realize I almost never O at all. Technically, I don't need to track now since I'm doing monitored cycles, but it makes me warm and fuzzy inside seeing on the chart that my body is doing what it should.
ETA if sexy time was up to my husband, we would do it only one or twice a month.
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But I can't deal with not knowing what's going on.
DH and I started officially TTC back in late August. I'm a total nerd and control freak so I had been getting ready for months, I started reading What to Expect and lurked on here and a couple other boards for about four months before I started my account. I wasn't sure about temping so I didn't do it on my first month.
I've always thought I've known when I ovulate and was lucky enough to get this confirmed with an ultrasound when I was younger. On our first month, I ended up feeling my usual O symptoms 4 days late and we hadn't BD'd for three days before this. I knew in the back of my mind I O'd late but I wasn't charting or keeping a schedule and took the BFN really hard (I later realized AF was 4 days late because of late O date). So I started temping just so I could feel in control of my cycle. We BD'd EOD as soon as AF left and I got my telltale O symptoms early on CD 11 so we BD'd that day even though we weren't going to. We got lucky (there's only 20% chance to conceive each month) and got KU on the second cycle but ended up losing the baby a number of weeks later.
I will continue to chart for two reasons: 1) I love being in the loop and knowing exactly when I've O'd so I can have a "paper trail" that I can look back on. I always feel ovulation and after going to doctors about it (it can get quite painful for me) I've gotten confirmation that it happens on the day I get my symptoms but our bodies aren't perfect, you never know when you have an off cycle. 2) I want to see what my body does after a MC and if it will go back to my normal or if my cycles will change, as well as how soon after the MC I will O, even if we're NTNP for a couple of months.
Temping for me was stressful at first because I don't typically sleep more than 1-2hrs at a time but I found my temps were still very accurate and temping ended up being a way to not feel anxious.
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BFP 9/20/2015 MMC 10/7/2015 D&C 10/15/15
Basically, outside of the FW I pretty much live by the Liz Lemon rule of no weeknight sex. It's a good rule. People have work in the morning!
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Edited late to see if TB has stopped being a TW about posting gifs from mobile.
Edit again- nope. Seriously Bump, get your ish together.
Get down with yo-bad-self, but sex frequency like you describe tends to be abnormal for the average married couple.
Are you a newly wed? Because H & I had sex that much the first 2 years of marriage & then real-life trout-slapped us pretty good.
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- It isn't uncommon for me to have anovulatory cycles and if I didn't ovulate I don't have to be tempted to symptom spot and all that nonsense.
- I have very irregular cycles. Ya know like 28, 35, 48, 30, 57 days type of irregular. If I wasn't temping I'd have absolutely no idea when my period is late and consequently I'd have to assume every cycle will probably be 60 days for testing purposes. No thanks.
- Unfortunately, although my sex drive is high similar to yours OP my DH's sex drive is considerably lower. He's 100% happy having sex 1-2 a month. We tried NTNP for awhile and I realized the chances of us getting our 1-2 times of sex each month timed correctly was just next to nothing. Especially since DH isn't ever really going to just want sex 2 days in a row or something. So now I can just wait to have sex till I know I'm likely to ovulate soon (thanks OPKs) and then at least we have 1 well timed day.
- Having no control over this whole TTC process is absolutely maddening. I need to feel like I'm doing something useful to help make my dreams of having a baby come true. Not charting, temping, doing OPKs and such is far more stressful for me than doing all that. As someone else put it: it helps control all the crazy that comes with TTC.
Basically, if I didn't want a baby as much as I do I probably wouldn't bother. I'd just go back to NTNP and be fine with whatever happened. I do however desperately want a take-home rainbow baby.TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
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