@EIRuby my guy has been doing the whining but he keeps his eyes closed and falls back asleep himself in between. Still keeps me up though as I expect him to wake up. He moves his head a lot. It's like he can't quite get comfortable
Mark the night of 10/22 as the first night she has slept through the night. Her first week at daycare has really worn her out. 4 months on Sunday so I'm not getting excited since the regression is approaching. But at least she's capable.
@ElRuby mine is doing the same the past few nights. Up for a couple talking to herself & rolling all over in her crib. I'd just go to sleep but she cries out when she gets stuck in one position she doesn't like. Also she's noisy & we're afraid she'll wind up face down in the mattress bc it's happened before. I gave up at 3 & just put her in bed with me. Did pretty good the rest of the week with transferring her back to her crib but tonight I was just too tired.
New theory on the 4m sleep regression. I know someone mentioned they are adjusting to sleep patterns (REM vs other) - I think that was hayesrn but I'm not sure. Anyway, along with that I'm beginning to think that they are beginning to dream / becoming aware of dreaming. Probably as a result of the events leap, with the expansion of consciousness and all that. There has been a time at least once a day recently where LO will be sleeping, usually it's been during a nap but this morning it happened about 3 hours before he normally wakes up, where I have heard him begin to make his 'don't like it / scared' sounds, and then began to cry in his sleep. I woke up at his 'don't like it' sounds because he is still next to me in our room, and thus was able to pop in his paci and put my hand on his chest just as he started to cry in his sleep. I was able to head off his waking up this way, but had he been in his own room, I probably would not have been quite as lucky with the timing, and he would have woke up. He did this two more times in that 3 hour period, I only happened to be able to stall it again because I hadn't gone back to sleep from the first time. That could have very easily been 3 separate wake ups, each requiring a soothe back to sleep. I just happened to luck out that he was next to me in the pnp still.
LO will be 4m tomorrow. Right on schedule, looks like
Mark the night of 10/22 as the first night she has slept through the night. Her first week at daycare has really worn her out. 4 months on Sunday so I'm not getting excited since the regression is approaching. But at least she's capable.
4am is her new wake up time so... :-q I'm convinced her shitty sleeping is because DH hasn't put socks on her for the past few nights. I'm sure that's not true but I need some hope that tonight will be different.
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4am is her new wake up time so... :-q I'm convinced her shitty sleeping is because DH hasn't put socks on her for the past few nights. I'm sure that's not true but I need some hope that tonight will be different.
Going on a month of 4 am wake ups. It's way too early! Maybe I should put socks on him? Lol
Anyone else starting to get nervous about the time change next weekend?
LO has STTN for three weeks straight(knock on wood!). We start our bedtime routine between 8:45-9:00, and he's asleep at 9:30pm. He wakes up between 6:30 and 7:30. Not sure how daylight savings will affect him. I read somewhere that for four nights leading up to the change, move naptime/bedtimes up by 15 minutes to help them prepare. Do any moms with older kids have any words of advice for us first timers?
Anyone else starting to get nervous about the time change next weekend?
LO has STTN for three weeks straight(knock on wood!). We start our bedtime routine between 8:45-9:00, and he's asleep at 9:30pm. He wakes up between 6:30 and 7:30. Not sure how daylight savings will affect him. I read somewhere that for four nights leading up to the change, move naptime/bedtimes up by 15 minutes to help them prepare. Do any moms with older kids have any words of advice for us first timers?
Oh wow, I hadn't even considered. Good thinking, mama
About to cry as I head into work on 3.5 hours of sleep. To make matters worse I changed her diaper before her 430 scream fest sleep and it had an old poop on it. Feeling like a jerk. A tired jerk.
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Even though LO is on night 4 of waking up every 2-3 hours twice tonight I've used the sound feature on the video monitor to tell her "shh, night night" (our sleep association sounds) & she went right back to sleep. Only had to get out of bed one of those times because her head was moved out of monitor view & I could tell she was flat on her stomach. I went in to check & move monitor, she was lying on her cheek (used to lie face first in the mattress). I'm fine with her on her tummy if she rolled that way anyway & has good head control. Looking at the monitor now when I hear her making little noises she is smiling in her sleep, pleasant dreams I hope! @dancegurl1118 don't feel like a jerk I've done the same thing. It's hard when LO is waking up so often for no reason it seems & you are so sleep deprived. I totally forget about her diaper. My new rule is if she's still up squawking after 30 mins I go on to check her diaper just in case. Good luck at work, that is the worst feeling going in on such little sleep & I only work 7 hour days.
@dancegurl1118 is there any job you could get that would be every 3rd weekend? Instead of every other? Also my best sleep is the day I go into work (before my night shift) because the house is quiet and the baby is gone and it's heaven...... I know you don't love nights but you might consider it with your next baby ?!
@klkonwi they're trying to transition us to every 3rd weekend so we'll see when that happens. I'm just a bad sleeper. If I get woken up its all over. It's even worse when I work nights. I only sleep 5 hours tops. If I could work only nights I would but it's just not feasible for daycare and my sanity. The next job i look for will be as a SAHM (after I win powerball of course). I think the real problem with my sleep that I'm stubborn to admit is the nightcap before bed. I think if I cut that out I will sleep better. But it's a vicious cycle of coming home from work tired and stressed, drinking, sleeping like shit, rinse and repeat. I agree though, during the day of my first night on while LO is at daycare is divine.
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I'm worried about daylight savings. We are hosting our annual Halloween party on Sat night which means I will be going on less sleep anyway, no including the fact we lose an hour and I may be feeling post-beer after effects! The only benefit of hosting is that we can just put LO to bed halfway through (hopefully) and enjoy some adult conversation.
I failed at sleep training. She cried for over an hour before I relented and gave her the pacifier. Then she woke up 30 minutes later, because that's what she does unswaddled, wakes up every 30 minutes all night long. I gave in and swaddled her and she slept for 2 hours, woke to eat at her normal time, and slept for 4 hours.
I seriously don't know what to do except go back to swaddling, even though everyone except my husband says its past time to stop. She's not getting used to being unswaddled, every night is worse than before.
I failed at sleep training. She cried for over an hour before I relented and gave her the pacifier. Then she woke up 30 minutes later, because that's what she does unswaddled, wakes up every 30 minutes all night long. I gave in and swaddled her and she slept for 2 hours, woke to eat at her normal time, and slept for 4 hours.
I seriously don't know what to do except go back to swaddling, even though everyone except my husband says its past time to stop. She's not getting used to being unswaddled, every night is worse than before.
Can you give her the pacifier with the sleep training? I mean now the recommendation is that it's good to sleep with a pacifier. What about a Merlin suit?
LO can roll now so I let him sleep on his belly last night. Didn't extend his sleep one bit!! So disappointed. Back to the Merlin suit tonight. He just likes to wake up every 2 hours for the fun of it I guess.
@ChardeeMacDennis maybe too much at once? Try get her off that swaddle first, then once she's good with that change try the sleep training with the pacifier, and then try to ditch the pacifier after that? Would that work? Or does it just sound better on paper? Hang in there. Have you tried something like this?
@hoodoll82 object permanence means the end of peek a boo, which kinda sucks because he never really into peek a boo to begin with. I've kept hoping this whole time he just needed to adapt to get into peek a boo, but the beginning of object permanence means the end of peek a boo for sure. Way to smash a girls dreams, lol... but yeah, you might be right.
@ChardeeMacDennis I was also going to ask if you tried the Merlin sleepsuit. My guy slept very well swaddled, and we went to the Merlin and he sleeps the same amount of time, but he is able to move his arms around some, bring his hands to his face, etc.
@jesshrou I think if I give her the pacifier while sleep training, she'll go back to sleep but wake up again in 30 minutes. The whole night would be cry for 3 minutes, get pacifier, sleep, cry for 3 minutes, get pacifier, sleep, repeat.
@Sjeff0816 This swaddle transition has been so terrible that I thought sleep training would fix it. If I can get her to sleep unswaddled I won't even need to sleep train. She falls asleep fine, it's staying asleep unswaddled that's the problem. I guess I will look into buying some sort of new blanket. I hate wasting money on temporary stuff like that, but if it works...
@ChardeeMacDennis I agree with @Sjeff0816 try one or the other first. I'm doing that with the pacifier. Getting her sleep trained first, then dealing with the pacifier during naps (if it falls out, she wakes up screaming). Good luck!!!
@ChardeeMacDennis I let mine fall asleep with a pacifier. Once he is dead asleep it falls out and he never misses it. But I understand your concern! I wouldn't want to go in every 30 minutes either.
@dancegurl1118 I have the same nightcap before bed as well...... I've honestly never thought of it being the culprit! You are probably right though. I too am just a shitty sleeper period but yeah........ Gotta make that money...... Boo..... :-L
Guess I'm just going to have to get used to the sleep deprivation. LO was wide awake (has NEVER happened before, always has her eyes closed even when she's stirring to eat at night) for 3 hours last night. I fed her and then just let her talk in her crib.
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I'm worried about daylight savings. We are hosting our annual Halloween party on Sat night which means I will be going on less sleep anyway, no including the fact we lose an hour and I may be feeling post-beer after effects! The only benefit of hosting is that we can just put LO to bed halfway through (hopefully) and enjoy some adult conversation.
We actually gain an hour ("fall back"), but I'm not sure that our LOs will get the memo to extend their sleep schedule accordingly..
Boo up since LO ate at 4, need to go back to sleep! I miss the days when he sttn! 4 month sleep regression please end soon... He'll be 5 months on the 6th
For the past three nights LO has gone to bed between 7 and 730 (normal), woke up around 9-930 but put herself back to sleep after 20-30 minutes of fussing a bit but not crying (not normal), woke up to eat between 4-430 (normal) but REFUSED to fall back asleep and partied again for about two hours (not normal) before eventually putting herself back to sleep. The first night I was up the whole two hours doing everything I could think of to get her back to sleep. The next two nights, I fed her, rocked her a bit, said fuck it, and put her in her crib with the mobile on. She danced around babbling for 30-45 minutes and then put herself back to sleep. Saturday morning she slept for another 1.5 hours, and today she is still asleep 2 hours later.
I guess it's not the worst regression we could have to deal with but it's still not great. I stare at the video during her whole dance party wondering wtf is going on. This time change is going to be the worst. Ugh.
Long live the swaddle! She slept 7 hours, ate, and is still asleep 4 hours later. I ordered a Merlin but at this point my plan is to transition her from the swaddle sometime after kindergarten.
I can just imagine a 5 year old being swaddled haha! We only swaddled for a few days after her being born and then did the sleep sacks. We got a sleep sack with the swaddle part around when she was 3 months because we were having issues with naps so she was swaddled for a few weeks/maybe a month. But naps weren't any better. We rock her to sleep so stopping the swaddle we just did all of a sudden and she was just more wiggly while we rocked her but is still sleeping the same. Have you tried having her sleep on her belly? I haven't but it might work for her if she startles easily. Hope you can figure it out soon!
I've learned that my LO sleeps waaaay longer on his belly. The unfortunate thing is you can't put him there. Just have to cross your fingers and hope he rolls. I also learned last night that co sleeping and trying to sneak away to pump in the MOTN do not mix always
@caitlincunn, nope, she hates being put on her tummy and isn't rolling yet. I feel a lot better about it all today. I give in. I'll swaddle her for now, she'll be happy, I'll be happy, and we can try again next month when the rest of this 4 month old crap is over.
@ChardeeMacDennis we just stopped swaddling a week ago (sometimes still do but with the large Swaddle Me & both arms out. LO is 5 months today. My LO never sleeps too long anyway. Last night only woke twice & was only in a sleeper! That's good for us. She hated the Merlin but seems to like sleeping on her side so the Merlin just pissed her off. I'm still hoping longer stretches of sleep will be coming our way soon, 7 hours would be glorious!
I've learned that my LO sleeps waaaay longer on his belly. The unfortunate thing is you can't put him there. Just have to cross your fingers and hope he rolls. I also learned last night that co sleeping and trying to sneak away to pump in the MOTN do not mix always
This is us too. And sometimes he wakes when he rolls so I try my best to get him back to sleep on his belly.
I'm worried about daylight savings. We are hosting our annual Halloween party on Sat night which means I will be going on less sleep anyway, no including the fact we lose an hour and I may be feeling post-beer after effects! The only benefit of hosting is that we can just put LO to bed halfway through (hopefully) and enjoy some adult conversation.
We actually gain an hour ("fall back"), but I'm not sure that our LOs will get the memo to extend their sleep schedule accordingly..
Duh. Yup! I always get it wrong. I just know it's trouble!
Re: Nighttime still sucks........
LO will be 4m tomorrow. Right on schedule, looks like
About to cry as I head into work on 3.5 hours of sleep. To make matters worse I changed her diaper before her 430 scream fest sleep and it had an old poop on it. Feeling like a jerk. A tired jerk.
@dancegurl1118 don't feel like a jerk I've done the same thing. It's hard when LO is waking up so often for no reason it seems & you are so sleep deprived. I totally forget about her diaper. My new rule is if she's still up squawking after 30 mins I go on to check her diaper just in case. Good luck at work, that is the worst feeling going in on such little sleep & I only work 7 hour days.
Also my best sleep is the day I go into work (before my night shift) because the house is quiet and the baby is gone and it's heaven...... I know you don't love nights but you might consider it with your next baby ?!
I'm worried about daylight savings. We are hosting our annual Halloween party on Sat night which means I will be going on less sleep anyway, no including the fact we lose an hour and I may be feeling post-beer after effects! The only benefit of hosting is that we can just put LO to bed halfway through (hopefully) and enjoy some adult conversation.
I seriously don't know what to do except go back to swaddling, even though everyone except my husband says its past time to stop. She's not getting used to being unswaddled, every night is worse than before.
What about a Merlin suit?
LO can roll now so I let him sleep on his belly last night. Didn't extend his sleep one bit!! So disappointed. Back to the Merlin suit tonight. He just likes to wake up every 2 hours for the fun of it I guess.
https://www.summerinfant.com/swaddling/swaddleme-wiggle-blanket?gclid=Cj0KEQjw2KyxBRCi2rK11NCDw6UBEiQAO-tljZndUUxHRoJHady7asSabA40RESYYS9nGWG5XrPlI9gaAoJ58P8HAQ
@ChardeeMacDennis I was also going to ask if you tried the Merlin sleepsuit. My guy slept very well swaddled, and we went to the Merlin and he sleeps the same amount of time, but he is able to move his arms around some, bring his hands to his face, etc.
@Sjeff0816 This swaddle transition has been so terrible that I thought sleep training would fix it. If I can get her to sleep unswaddled I won't even need to sleep train. She falls asleep fine, it's staying asleep unswaddled that's the problem. I guess I will look into buying some sort of new blanket. I hate wasting money on temporary stuff like that, but if it works...
but I'm not sure that our LOs will get the memo to extend their sleep schedule accordingly..
https://www.thebump.com/a/baby-time-change
I guess it's not the worst regression we could have to deal with but it's still not great. I stare at the video during her whole dance party wondering wtf is going on. This time change is going to be the worst. Ugh.