May 2014 Moms

The Big Snooze (Sleep Thread)

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Re: The Big Snooze (Sleep Thread)

  • This may have been discussed but what are you doing for naptime? Cio? Rock to sleep? I have been trying cio but where do I start? I let her cio today and she fell asleep quickly but this doesnt always happen. How long do you let them cry at first? Do you go in and comfort?

    Nap time I sometimes let him CIO for a short amount of time. No more than 10 min. Then I'll rock him or lay with him. When I did CIO the first night I stayed next to him rubbing his back telling him it was ok. I couldn't leave him to cry. The second night I rubbed his back for 5 min then he fell asleep 5 min after that. The 3rd night I rubbed his back for 1 min and walked out. He was sleeping shortly after that. Now I put him down and pat him and he fusses, rolls over and passes out. He's doing much better with his night wakings too. He's back down within 3-5 min with minimal crying. He also gave me a 5 hour stretch last night which is amazing. It's was hard hearing him cry but I had to just tell myself he's learning to put himself to bed. I don't want to create bad habits which I already have evidently done. Good luck!
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  • Thank you @caballo718‌. Ive been letting her cry for 5-10 minutes, then giving her paci back and leaving again. Tonight she rolled around a little and then went to sleep without crying but she was exhausted from hardly napping today (lots of errands)
  • Hbird05 said:

    @fussybunch‌ I was hoping that would work for ya. We just kept at it then but now I feel like bedtime is all over the place! I just aim for 2 hours after her last nap now and hope for the best.

    Yes, thank you @Hbird05! I just found DD has a lower tooth that just broke through, so now I feel... what's the word? Oh yeah, totally screwed :)
  • We're finally trying again with transition to crib. With my mastitis, I just couldn't face the sleep deprivation, especially since she was sleeping about 8-9 hours straight when swaddled in the RnP.

    Tonight, she was went down to sleep beautifully in the magic suit in her crib. But 45 minutes later she popped and started crying. She's mostly asleep again now, but I foresee a rough night if she's waking every sleep cycle.

    I feel bad leaving her in her own room -- feeling half like I ought to snooze in the chair here for a while so I can be there right away if she wakes up confused and upset. Ridiculous I know, but still....
  • Anyone else's LO's move a ton all night in their bed? DD moves so much that I wonder if she gets enough sleep. She doesn't cry, just constantly moves.
  • DD is a high needs babe and CIO just isn't an option for us. She's been a poor sleeper since day 1. I do whatever I can to get her to sleep. I'm sure I'm doing all kinds of things wrong, but we both need some kind of sleep, so I've just come to terms with it.
  • Nursed her back to sleep, again, and then while still in my arms she had a nightmare. Crying and whimpering in her sleep for several minutes while I held her and snuggled her. It makes me so sad!
  • I've been trying to not just feed dd right away when she wakes up since she's just comfort nursing from teething. Woke up, gave her her paci and rocked her. Put her back in her crib drowsy, five minutes of her grabbing her feet and moving around she started fussing again. Did this for half an hour before I gave up and am now nursing her. Hopefully she goes back down. This teething stuff is hard! Messing with our normal sleep routine :(
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  • @lissiehoya & @fussybunch, I think that we're in the same boat.  I don't want to even try any form of CIO because I don't think he has the temperament that will work.    He is so intense when he cries.  His clothes get damp with sweat after just a short bout of crying.   He turns red and chokes/coughs and his voice gets raspy.  And that's all when I'm right there trying to comfort him.   I'm afraid to put us all through that and not have it work anyway.   Unfortunately though, our sleep issues aren't getting any better.  I'm not sure what our path forward is.  I'm trying to read the no cry sleep solution, but I'm too tired!  :)

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  • I feel the pain that you are all going through.  Especially after going back to work last week it's been SO hard!  Talked to the pedi and Mon and started the tough love this week and it's been awful!  Last night he was so tired and completely out by 7.  Woke up at 11:45 and tried to see if he would put himself back to sleep.  Nope, so I went in and patted his back and that seemed to make it worse!  I figured he needed to eat so my husband tried giving him the bottle in the crib and not picking him up.  Worked and he went back to sleep.  He woke up again at 3:45 and I tried the patting the back and shhh-ing and it did not work.  I had him finish the last 2 oz that he didn't eat out of the bottle my husband gave him earlier and he fell back asleep.  I didn't pick him up.  And then my husband said  he slept until almost 8 and that never happens.  So I guess we traumatized him from not picking him up!!  Just kidding. My husband thinks he is going to bed too early, but what do you do if he is zonked out??  I hate this sleeping stuff!!!  I am so tired at work today and I didn't get to see him before I left and I have a meeting after school that I have to attend.  Urgggg, is it Friday yet???  
  • QOTR said:

    @lissiehoya & @fussybunch, I think that we're in the same boat.  I don't want to even try any form of CIO because I don't think he has the temperament that will work.    He is so intense when he cries.  His clothes get damp with sweat after just a short bout of crying.   He turns red and chokes/coughs and his voice gets raspy.  And that's all when I'm right there trying to comfort him.   I'm afraid to put us all through that and not have it work anyway.   Unfortunately though, our sleep issues aren't getting any better.  I'm not sure what our path forward is.  I'm trying to read the no cry sleep solution, but I'm too tired!  :)

    I have come to accept that I have a high needs LO and certain things just aren't going to work fur us. Initially, I was being VERY hard on myself because I thought it was something I was or wasn't doing. After researching high needs babies, (described DD exactly) I am much easier about things. Stress on top of no sleep wasn't doing either one of us any good.
  • I''m sorry she had a tough day @cook251.   I hope the transition gets easier quickly. 

    I still try to get him back down within 2 hours of waking, except for the last wakeful period of the day.  If putting him down in 2 hours is too close to the bedtime window, I stretch it. 
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  • @Cook251‌ DD is usually up for 1.5-2 hours before she naps again. She will nap for about 20-30 min then is up to eat again. She will normally just take one good nap a day(1 hour) other than that its 20-30 min naps.
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  • DS has been a 30min napper for ages now but up until this week he's always woken up happy. Just this week he's started waking up crying. I'm not sure if it's because he's tired and wants to sleep more or because he wants me. He does 4 half hour naps and 12 hours overnight so I know he's getting the right amount of sleep in total
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    @Cook251‌ sorry LO had a rough day. Sleeping at daycare has never been a strong point for either of my kids. There's too much to take in. With that said, some days this LO will take 4-5 hour naps at daycare. Other days only 1-2 hours total of cat naps in 9 hours. One day he didn't nap at all. DD survived like this and I'm sure this one will too. These daycare folks do this all the time and have tricks, my DS just wants to fight!

    Anyway, at home DS is typically awake 1.5-3 hours between naps unless something exciting is happening.

    Best wishes for a smooth daycare transition!
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  • It's so early DS. Why are you so awake? Mommy is tired!
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  • @ns1‌ mine is up at 5 too and is still tired but trying to keep herself awake. Just go back to sleep if you're tired!! Ugh! For some reason she has been needing me to rock her twice before she'll go back to sleep in the morning. I don't get it!
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  • @Lissiehoya‌ ugh. Getting an extra hour doesn't mean the same thing once you have kids!
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  • @Cook251 - if I'm coming back to the house anytime remotely soon and DH is with the baby he won't put him down for a nap either!
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  • So the night I'm up since 2 is the night she decides to sleep later than she has in weeks without a fight! I thought for sure with the time change she'd be all thrown off. Also I've been trying to catch her around the times she's been not going back to sleep so I can get her before she's all the way awake so that's not helping but my thought is if I can get her used to not being awake for over an hour to 2 hours in the middle of the night she won't do it any more. We did Ferber and it worked as far as her going back to sleep with less and less time but she was still getting up way too early and it was making her more grumpy and throwing her day off with all the crying so trying something different for now. Maybe after this leap is over we will do bedtime sleep training instead of middle of the night. Or maybe she won't need it who knows she is full of surprises these days!
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  • Ugh DD took a two hour nap before bed (which means I did too ;-)) This time change is messing me up and I got confused and shouldn't have let her sleep that long. Hopefully tonight goes smoothly, I've never put her down this late before.
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  • delatldelatl member
    edited November 2014
    Yes, my LO started having sleep issues right around when I returned. Was it related? Hard to say. She also moved back her bedtime, which changed the length of her stretches. She hit the 4MW. She 's had more colds. We're still struggling, sorry to say! But I hear for some it gets better more quickly.
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  • I am so upset this week, it is like I cannot get my baby to sleep anymore. I am usually able to nurse her to sleep at night and lay her down without any problems. Now she won't fall asleep at the boob and/or pops on and off and cries. Tonight I nursed on both sides and gave a 2oz bottle of BM. Even naps now I suck at. We had a good thing going for a couple weeks. Sleeping 12 hours a night with one MOTN feeding and taking 2-3 30-90 minutes naps during the day. I'm having to ask DH for help and that never happens (no offense to DH). I can't get this baby figured out, she like resets each week. :-<

    This is us too. Naps have been terrible she just pulls off and then latches over and over and screams in the middle of it. She was sleeping 8 hour stretches finally last week and now this. She is also practicing rolling in her sleep. She's been up every 2 hours again. I'm hoping growth spurt because I can't take this fighting sleep much longer! She used to go right back to sleep after MOTN feedings and now she won't. She also was taking one hour nap off me and I thought we were getting a routine down and of course that can't happen. I'm just so frustrated!!
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  • Still having sleep issues here and he turned 6 mo yesterday. @Cook251‌ -Going to work tired is so hard! I come home and try to spend quality time with him. I try to go to sleep when he goes down. My house is a wreck and laundry is piling up! I feel so guilty praying that he goes to sleep easily so I can finally rest. I say this every week, parenting is hard!!
  • @Chevygrrl91‌ she will be 6 months next week and started the rolling thing a few days ago. Tonight however for the first time I rocked and nursed her put her down she played them got fussy and when it escalated I went in. Nursed some more rocked and enjoyed the face touches then put her down and kissed her goodnight. Figured I'd be back in there. She rolled to her belly and almost fell asleep. She did not like this because it was different but I waited until she escalated again for a couple minutes then patted her while she was still on her tummy and said shh shh and after a couple minutes she was out! I'm hoping this continues and she will stop associating eating with sleeping which might mean I can get her to nap in her crib doing that and not worry about waking her when I move and maybe even less night wakings. I was seriously considering bedtime sleep training because sleep in general has been awful but now that she's sleeping on her belly maybe I won't have to. So this could be a plus. Maybe yours will realize it's more comfortable and sleep better as well. She is also going through a growth spurt so that's fun! She keeps screaming at me when the milk stops coming.
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  • @Chevygrrl91‌ I want to hold your daughter (I know I sound creepy). I just love that hair!
  • DD had been sleeping 6-7 hours with one motn feeding between 2-3 then up for the day around 6. The past 1-2 weeks and especially since the time change, bedtime is at 8-830 and she's been up at midnight then at 3 then up for the day at 430. I'm hoping this is just a phase but I don't see it stopping anytime soon. Any advice on how to get her back to the longer stretch? Weve tried a later bedtime but that just screwed me up and I only got a 2 hour break before she woke up. I've tried soothing her back to sleep when she wakes up around midnight but she just screams and nursing her calms her down. I just miss my 6 hour stretch of uninterrupted sleep :-/ Thinking of trying an earlier bedtime tonight.
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  • @kendy20 - try an earlier bedtime. DD had issues the first 2 days after the time change. She usually goes to bed at 7. On Saturday night, I tried to keep her up until 8pm (hoping to help with time change). Wrong. She was up at 4am for the day and was so fussy from lack of sleep. The next night she was so tired that she went to sleep at 6pm, then 6:30, and last night was back to 7. The last two nights, she's slept 10 hours straight. 

    It could also be teething? Try some Tylenol? 

    Also, with my DD, I'll leave her in her crib if she's fussy (after nursing/changing her) - she usually will fall back asleep for another 60-90 minutes. Good luck! 


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  • Thanks @Jcrewgirl85‌! I'll try the earlier bedtime tonight.
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  • My little guy put himself back to sleep twice last night!  In both instances, he had been asleep, but woke up when I transferred him to crib.   The first time, he fussed a bit before settling down. I was so excited!   Unfortunately, he only stayed asleep 10 minutes and I ultimately had to nurse him back to sleep.  The second time, he made a few noises and then there was silence.  And he slept another 2 hours.   We still have a long way to go, but I'll take any small steps toward progress that I can get.
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  • you give me hope @kittyriot!    Unfortunately, the end of the leap is still 18 long days away for us.
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  • kittyriot said:

    We are through the fifth leap and sleep is finally getting better again. I don't want to jinx anything but thought ladies would like some light...


    Could be related as well, the better sleep seems to have aligned with bumping real food feeding up to 3 times a day.

    I did this as well yesterday and got 6 hours. I wonder if they're just ready for more food now? I decided to do it because she was screaming at me when the milk would stop and just didn't seem satisfied. We still have about a week left of the leap but she is starting to not be so grumpy and sleep better.
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  • hbird0723hbird0723 member
    edited November 2014
    @QOTR‌ ours has been beating me up too! Last night she kept pulling my hair, clawing me (I just clipped those things!) and she bit down on me. She doesn't have teeth yet thank God because it hurt without them. I pulled her off and said no mam pretty loud which freaked her out and the thrashing started again.

    I wish I had a piece of cake!
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  • @hbird05, I'm taking back all my complaining because after all of that, he miraculously slept 6 hours straight.  He hasn't done that in months!!   (In comparison, the previous night the longest stretch he gave me was 1 hour, 40 minutes.)
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  • DS only took one nap today. He wasn't really crabby. But I imagine tonight will be rough! I think this fifth leap may be messing with him.
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  • becole42 said:

    Found out at my baby's 6 month that he has an ear infection- no wonder he's not sleeping. She said sometimes they pull on their ears, sometimes they cry, and sometimes there are no symptoms. Only thing he had was a snotty nose and crying at night- so watch for those ears mamas if sleep is all the sudden off.

    My son used to whip his head back and forth. Has only pulled an ear once in the seven infections he's had. They sometimes get a fever with an EI as well.

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  • I let LO have an A&A blanket last night now that she has been pulling things away and moving better. I was nervous and up more than I should of been but she uses them during nap and does well. She only needed me one time last night! She would wake and I would watch her snuggle her blanket and fall back to sleep. I am thinking about taking one of the ones I got at a garage sale for $1 and making it into a smaller security blanket though for more peace of mind. I know they aren't supposed to have one but if it helps her sleep we might be starting earlier especially with a smaller one. I know this is a no no now and we've talked about it in a thread before but now that they are a little older anyone else doing this?
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  • QOTRQOTR member
    edited November 2014
    My little guy just rolled over to tummy and fell asleep for the first time.  I'm a bit nervous, but his mouth is clear.  It's kinda cute.

    Edited:  That lasted all of 30 minutes.  He moved face down and when we tried to shift him, he got PISSED.
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