@sooner1981 I'm still a little confused. I understand that fat can be obtained through a variety of sources not just milk. But why not give whole? What is the advantage of 2%? Is that just a convenience issue?
@sooner1981 I'm still a little confused. I understand that fat can be obtained through a variety of sources not just milk. But why not give whole? What is the advantage of 2%? Is that just a convenience issue?
Nope--based on the other fats she gets, she would be getting more than the recommended amount of saturated fat on a daily basis if we gave her whole milk. Not a huge fan of too much saturated fat because, although some is important for early brain development, lots of grandparents on both sides died of congestive heart failure.
My brother and I grew up on exclusively skim milk starting in kindergarten, which is what we plan to do with our kids. 2 percent until age 3, then one percent until 5 or 6, then skim from there on.
She loves meatballs, fish, avocado, nut butters, cheese, yogurt and kefir, etc--all packed with fat. So, she just doesn't need the extra 6 grams of it that she would get if we gave her whole milk. But like I have said, I have a kid who will eat anything I set in front of her. If that is not the case with my son, I will pick up a gallon of whole milk. No big deal.
Ok, I wasn't going to comment, because I didn't want to get into a heated discussion at the moment but I figure I should explain myself since that's what people want. I love tit sooners post because she was the only one who brought up the nutritional difference between whole milk and 2%. If you read my original post I did mention that I worked with my kids doctor about weaning her to milk prior to age one. I am not feeding her strictly 2% milk. She gets a well balanced diet, including puree's and table food. I am not that dumb to have her on a cow's milk only diet. I wouldn't have jumped into giving her cow's milk without talking to her doctor first. We slowly weened her into it and kept an eye on signs that she may be having adverse reactions to cow's milk at an early age. I believe that if my doctor(whom i highly trust) thought in anyway giving her cow's milk before 1 would have stunted her developmental growth she wouldn't have suggested it. I even called to double check to make sure she was still ok with us starting.
I do research as well before jumping into things with my kids. It was actually my doctor who mentioned starting cow's milk prior to one year of age and it was discussed between me, my doctor and my husband throughly before we made the decision. I would hope everyone considers everything, including talking to their doctor before adding changes to their kids diets. Now I am one that will be holding off on eggs probably even past one because of family history of being highly allergic to eggs and I plan on introducing alternatives to peanut butter because in the community we live in all the schools are peanut free so an alternative is needed at lunch time if that's what she wants and we do not want pay for school lunches.
So to kind of turn this around, if anyone has good suggestions to alternatives then peanut butter I would love to hear them, because I also need to get my oldest on that since she is one year away from kindergarden and will be needing to take lunches.
Oh for the love. The point is NOT that you have switched to cow's milk, the point is that you are feeding your child 2% milk, which contradicts the AAP recommendation to feed full-fat dairy products until age 2, and MOREOVER that you are doing so because you don't want to spend the roughly $100 or so to buy a month's worth of formula and can't be bothered to pick up an extra gallon of milk at the store. JTTW. Did your pedi really tell you it was ok to give 2% and not whole?
Ok, I wasn't going to comment, because I didn't want to get into a heated discussion at the moment but I figure I should explain myself since that's what people want. I love tit sooners post because she was the only one who brought up the nutritional difference between whole milk and 2%. If you read my original post I did mention that I worked with my kids doctor about weaning her to milk prior to age one. I am not feeding her strictly 2% milk. She gets a well balanced diet, including puree's and table food. I am not that dumb to have her on a cow's milk only diet. I wouldn't have jumped into giving her cow's milk without talking to her doctor first. We slowly weened her into it and kept an eye on signs that she may be having adverse reactions to cow's milk at an early age. I believe that if my doctor(whom i highly trust) thought in anyway giving her cow's milk before 1 would have stunted her developmental growth she wouldn't have suggested it. I even called to double check to make sure she was still ok with us starting.
I do research as well before jumping into things with my kids. It was actually my doctor who mentioned starting cow's milk prior to one year of age and it was discussed between me, my doctor and my husband throughly before we made the decision. I would hope everyone considers everything, including talking to their doctor before adding changes to their kids diets. Now I am one that will be holding off on eggs probably even past one because of family history of being highly allergic to eggs and I plan on introducing alternatives to peanut butter because in the community we live in all the schools are peanut free so an alternative is needed at lunch time if that's what she wants and we do not want pay for school lunches.
So to kind of turn this around, if anyone has good suggestions to alternatives then peanut butter I would love to hear them, because I also need to get my oldest on that since she is one year away from kindergarden and will be needing to take lunches.
Oh for the love. The point is NOT that you have switched to cow's milk, the point is that you are feeding your child 2% milk, which contradicts the AAP recommendation to feed full-fat dairy products until age 2, and MOREOVER that you are doing so because you don't want to spend the roughly $100 or so to buy a month's worth of formula and can't be bothered to pick up an extra gallon of milk at the store. JTTW. Did your pedi really tell you it was ok to give 2% and not whole?
Yes, I understand the advantage of a full fat dairy diet. Yes, my doctor said as long as she gets enough healthy fat from her diet we could do 2% milk instead of whole. She has a healthy appetite for anything, well almost anything(she didn't like the fresh picked raspberries I gave her). My doctor said that if she doesn't seem to be getting enough fat and keeping in the middle or higher of the 'pack' as far as growth then she will recommend us switching. Maybe I made a mistake saying we were happy not to have to get a second kind milk and that we are a 2% family. But with the advice from my doctor I am making sure my child is getting enough of all the nutrients she needs to be developmentally healthy and if I am recommended to do different at her next appointment because she is falling behind I will change her diet.
That is certainly surprising that a pediatrician would recommend a switch to exclusively 2 percent milk at prior to 11 months old. My husband bought a can of formula for last week because I was going to be working late one night, and he wanted to have some formula on hand for an evening bottle, so that he wouldn't just have to give our 11 month old a cup of cows milk.
He said parents always ask him if they can switch early (usually around 10-11 months) to Cow milk from formula and he always answers "yes, you CAN do almost anything you want to do--you just need to understand that your child will not be getting the optimal nutrition for the next few months. If that is okay with you, there is nothing I can do to stop you, since the lack of essential nutrients will not necessarily show up in a way that I will be able to track."
Sooner's spot on. We're not talking about growth as in height and weight here. We're talking about development of highly complex neurological systems. Just seems like an unnecessary gamble for such a small monetary and convenience benefit.
Really, full fat dairy is good for all of us. But that's a whole other argument for a whole other day.
I have read extensively the arguments on both sides. My grandfathers on both sides grew up on family farms. Lived on whole milk, ate veggies out of the garden, ate lots of organ meat and fatty ham sandwiches, not all that much grain. They weren't overweight, but both of them had triple/quadruple bypass surgeries in their 60s. They switched to low fat (including dairy) diets and each lived many more years without more cholesterol blockages, before eventually dying of heart failure.
They led the "stereotypical" country life. Full fat everything, lots of produce tons of exercise well into adulthood--but their doctors believe that they just consumed too much saturated fat over their years.
All things in moderation, including both fats and carbs
I ate candy corn, and then 2 days later found one on the floor of my car and ate it.
I had almost the same exact confession last year. #somethingsneverchange #fatty4eva
I read the Honest Toddler blog. He says that floor snacks (things that get dropped on the floor during mealtime, only to be rediscovered later) are the food trucks of the toddler world.
the spare pieces of candy i randomly find in the bottom of my purse are the food truck of the mom of young kids world...it's the small victories, folks.
I ate candy corn, and then 2 days later found one on the floor of my car and ate it.
I had almost the same exact confession last year. #somethingsneverchange #fatty4eva
A friend and I went out to lunch when our kids were 3 (oh heavens, now they are almost 8! How did this happen?!) and there was a gumball machine which we let the kids get a gumball from. Her son played with the gumball like it was a bouncy ball, rolling it on the floor of the restaurant and putting it in his pocket. At one point his mom found he had put it into his underwear. But, he was not interested in chewing it so whatever.
A few days later her husband came inside from cleaning out the car and he was chewing gum. She asked him where he had gotten the gum and, yup, you guessed it, it was the gumball from our outing. Her son had left it in the car and her husband found it and chewed it. As she told him where it had been he slowly stopped chewing and got a disgusted look on his face and ran to spit it out. I never let him live that one down.
I feel a small sense of pride that the fffc I started was so successful. I know I have absolutely nothing to do with it being 16 pages or it continuing until Monday, but I feel like the host of a good party.
Can we keep this going all week that would be cool. I will do my part . I spent all day Friday cooking a ton of baked goods for a pot-luck. A bunch of other people brought baked goods when they weren't designated and I didn't have room to put mine up on the table. For some reason this really bugged me. Last night D woke up a lot and I may have woken up weighing more than I did when I went to bed from eating all the sweets, so today I had to freeze the majority of the goodies because I have no will power and want to eat ALL DA THINGS!!!
Last night my DH went to bed earlier than me and passed out. Well he's been aggravating me lately so when I got into bed I grabbed his arm pit hair, pulled it out and then continued to act like I was sleeping... :-\"
I'm going to be spending ~ $1000 on myself for my one year mom-a-versary. I told h I was taking these photos (see link below), but he doesn't know how much they cost, I just told him "they're expensive". He'll find out when he sees the credit card statement.
I can't stop buying all the things for my LO and so now basically have his birthday and Xmas done. #gettingallthegooddeals #stillunderfiftydollarsspent
I'm going to be spending ~ $1000 on myself for my one year mom-a-versary. I told h I was taking these photos (see link below), but he doesn't know how much they cost, I just told him "they're expensive". He'll find out when he sees the credit card statement.
I'm going to be spending ~ $1000 on myself for my one year mom-a-versary. I told h I was taking these photos (see link below), but he doesn't know how much they cost, I just told him "they're expensive". He'll find out when he sees the credit card statement.
I just finished a weekend of FB spring cleaning where I de-friended a bunch of people. My post it was getting out of control. I wonder if they will notice. Who am I kidding IDGAF.
My FFTC, it has taken us this long to finally start having super awesome sexy time again. The past few days have been AHH-mazing and dare I say, worth the wait. ;;) ) :x \:D/
that's how i got pregnant with #2--- 11 months in.
My FFTC, it has taken us this long to finally start having super awesome sexy time again. The past few days have been AHH-mazing and dare I say, worth the wait. ;;) ) :x \:D/
that's how i got pregnant with #2--- 11 months in.
Yep. It was amazing for about 3 weeks. And then I started feeling nauseous, took a test, and the rest is (crazy, loveable, fun) history...
i was feeding DD prune puree this morning she knocked it out of my hand and it spilled on my jeans (now there is a stain). instead of changing my jeans i decided these were too comfortable. i will pretend like this stain happened when i was out of the house and couldnt change. #butreallyiprobablywontpretendanything #truelifeiamadirtsquirrelthatpreferscomfort
My FFTC, it has taken us this long to finally start having super awesome sexy time again. The past few days have been AHH-mazing and dare I say, worth the wait. ;;) ) :x \:D/
@NRyan55 I'm not entirely sure what prompts a person to decide to do an ultramarathon, but yea, he's amazing! And my sister's running her first marathon next month.
And here I was proud to run 3 miles before work today--mostly because it's tough to get out of bed early and go run while everyone sleeps, not so much for the 3 miles part.
I'm kind of taking one of these. Mid-October I booked a by-myself no-family-allowed vacay to Puerto Rico to go shopping.
Which leads to a random question for @jennlin -- aren't you the hotel/airline points guru? I really want to stay at a Doubletree in PR, but it's pretty spendy. Do you know of any fancy ways to book it on points or get a sweet deal? I know it's a long shot, but I can just imagine de-stressing at this place. Plus, the warm cookie on check-in... mmmm
Re: Fffc
#2 due 12.23.17
My brother and I grew up on exclusively skim milk starting in kindergarten, which is what we plan to do with our kids. 2 percent until age 3, then one percent until 5 or 6, then skim from there on.
She loves meatballs, fish, avocado, nut butters, cheese, yogurt and kefir, etc--all packed with fat. So, she just doesn't need the extra 6 grams of it that she would get if we gave her whole milk. But like I have said, I have a kid who will eat anything I set in front of her. If that is not the case with my son, I will pick up a gallon of whole milk. No big deal.
He said parents always ask him if they can switch early (usually around 10-11 months) to Cow milk from formula and he always answers "yes, you CAN do almost anything you want to do--you just need to understand that your child will not be getting the optimal nutrition for the next few months. If that is okay with you, there is nothing I can do to stop you, since the lack of essential nutrients will not necessarily show up in a way that I will be able to track."
They led the "stereotypical" country life. Full fat everything, lots of produce tons of exercise well into adulthood--but their doctors believe that they just consumed too much saturated fat over their years.
All things in moderation, including both fats and carbs
the spare pieces of candy i randomly find in the bottom of my purse are the food truck of the mom of young kids world...it's the small victories, folks.
#2 due 12.23.17
A friend and I went out to lunch when our kids were 3 (oh heavens, now they are almost 8! How did this happen?!) and there was a gumball machine which we let the kids get a gumball from. Her son played with the gumball like it was a bouncy ball, rolling it on the floor of the restaurant and putting it in his pocket. At one point his mom found he had put it into his underwear. But, he was not interested in chewing it so whatever.
A few days later her husband came inside from cleaning out the car and he was chewing gum. She asked him where he had gotten the gum and, yup, you guessed it, it was the gumball from our outing. Her son had left it in the car and her husband found it and chewed it. As she told him where it had been he slowly stopped chewing and got a disgusted look on his face and ran to spit it out. I never let him live that one down.
#floorfoodcanbedangerous
#dontcallcpsimnotstumblingorblackingout
https://www.oldschoolpinups.com
I'm also paying to get my hair done like @jalee85.
Yep. It was amazing for about 3 weeks. And then I started feeling nauseous, took a test, and the rest is (crazy, loveable, fun) history...
#stillusingpregnancyasanexcuse
#whoamikidding
#ialwaysmakehimdoit