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  • @sooner1981 I'm still a little confused. I understand that fat can be obtained through a variety of sources not just milk. But why not give whole? What is the advantage of 2%? Is that just a convenience issue?
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  • @sooner1981 I'm still a little confused. I understand that fat can be obtained through a variety of sources not just milk. But why not give whole? What is the advantage of 2%? Is that just a convenience issue?

    Nope--based on the other fats she gets, she would be getting more than the recommended amount of saturated fat on a daily basis if we gave her whole milk. Not a huge fan of too much saturated fat because, although some is important for early brain development, lots of grandparents on both sides died of congestive heart failure.

    My brother and I grew up on exclusively skim milk starting in kindergarten, which is what we plan to do with our kids. 2 percent until age 3, then one percent until 5 or 6, then skim from there on.

    She loves meatballs, fish, avocado, nut butters, cheese, yogurt and kefir, etc--all packed with fat. So, she just doesn't need the extra 6 grams of it that she would get if we gave her whole milk. But like I have said, I have a kid who will eat anything I set in front of her. If that is not the case with my son, I will pick up a gallon of whole milk. No big deal.
  • sleepy33 said:
    mweav1025 said:
    Ok, I wasn't going to comment, because I didn't want to get into a heated discussion at the moment but I figure I should explain myself since that's what people want.  I love tit sooners post because she was the only one who brought up the nutritional  difference between whole milk and 2%.  If you read my original post I did mention that I worked with my kids doctor about weaning her to milk prior to age one.  I am not feeding her strictly 2% milk.  She gets a well balanced diet, including puree's and table food.  I am not that dumb to have her on a cow's milk only diet.  I wouldn't have jumped into giving her cow's milk without talking to her doctor first.  We slowly weened her into it and kept an eye on signs that she may be having adverse reactions to cow's milk at an early age.  I believe that if my doctor(whom i highly trust) thought in anyway giving her cow's milk before 1 would have stunted her developmental growth she wouldn't have suggested it.  I even called to double check to make sure she was still ok with us starting.

    I do research as well before jumping into things with my kids.  It was actually my doctor who mentioned starting cow's milk prior to one year of age and it was discussed between me, my doctor and my husband throughly before we made the decision.  I would hope everyone considers everything, including talking to their doctor before adding changes to their kids diets.  Now I am one that will be holding off on eggs probably even past one because of family history of being highly allergic to eggs and I plan on introducing alternatives to peanut butter because in the community we live in all the schools are peanut free so an alternative is needed at lunch time if that's what she wants and we do not want pay for school lunches.  

    So to kind of turn this around, if anyone has good suggestions to alternatives then peanut butter I would love to hear them, because I also need to get my oldest on that since she is one year away from kindergarden and will be needing to take lunches.
    Oh for the love. The point is NOT that you have switched to cow's milk, the point is that you are feeding your child 2% milk, which contradicts the AAP recommendation to feed full-fat dairy products until age 2, and MOREOVER that you are doing so because you don't want to spend the roughly $100 or so to buy a month's worth of formula and can't be bothered to pick up an extra gallon of milk at the store. JTTW. Did your pedi really tell you it was ok to give 2% and not whole?
    Yes, I understand the advantage of a full fat dairy diet.  Yes, my doctor said as long as she gets enough healthy fat from her diet we could do 2% milk instead of whole.  She has a healthy appetite for anything, well almost anything(she didn't like the fresh picked raspberries I gave her).  My doctor said that if she doesn't seem to be getting enough fat and keeping in the middle or higher of the 'pack' as far as growth then she will recommend us switching.  Maybe I made a mistake saying we were happy not to have to get a second kind milk and that we are a 2% family.  But with the advice from my doctor I am making sure my child is getting enough of all the nutrients she needs to be developmentally healthy and if I am recommended to do different at her next appointment because she is falling behind I will change her diet.
  • Really, full fat dairy is good for all of us. But that's a whole other argument for a whole other day.

    I have read extensively the arguments on both sides. My grandfathers on both sides grew up on family farms. Lived on whole milk, ate veggies out of the garden, ate lots of organ meat and fatty ham sandwiches, not all that much grain. They weren't overweight, but both of them had triple/quadruple bypass surgeries in their 60s. They switched to low fat (including dairy) diets and each lived many more years without more cholesterol blockages, before eventually dying of heart failure.

    They led the "stereotypical" country life. Full fat everything, lots of produce tons of exercise well into adulthood--but their doctors believe that they just consumed too much saturated fat over their years.

    All things in moderation, including both fats and carbs :)
  • Really, full fat dairy is good for all of us. But that's a whole other argument for a whole other day.

    I disagree with this, but know I'm in the minority.


  • wedding06 said:

    I'm watching the Unauthorized Story of Saved by the Bell right now. It is so bad it's good!

    #we'restillconfessingright?

    I watched that the other night!!!! It was so bad it was good!
  • Since we're still confessing...

    When we were in France I woke Clara up at 2:30 AM because I really wanted to watch my brother finish his 104-mile ultramarathon.
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  • jennlin said:

    I'm going to be spending ~ $1000 on myself for my one year mom-a-versary. I told h I was taking these photos (see link below), but he doesn't know how much they cost, I just told him "they're expensive". He'll find out when he sees the credit card statement.

    https://www.oldschoolpinups.com

    I'm also paying to get my hair done like @jalee85.

    My only question is which style are you going for??
  • I spent a good amount of time at work last night playing with dry ice and eating candy. It was a good night.

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  • i was feeding DD prune puree this morning she knocked it out of my hand and it spilled on my jeans (now there is a stain). instead of changing my jeans i decided these were too comfortable. i will pretend like this stain happened when i was out of the house and couldnt change. #butreallyiprobablywontpretendanything #truelifeiamadirtsquirrelthatpreferscomfort
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  • NRyan55 said:
    @huntjul congrats to your brother!

    @Jennlin what is a mom-a-versary?
    @NRyan55 I'm not entirely sure what prompts a person to decide to do an ultramarathon, but yea, he's amazing!  And my sister's running her first marathon next month.

    And here I was proud to run 3 miles before work today--mostly because it's tough to get out of bed early and go run while everyone sleeps, not so much for the 3 miles part.
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  • jennlin said:
    @huntjul congrats to your brother!

    @Jennlin what is a mom-a-versary?
    A year of surviving kiddos.
    I'm kind of taking one of these.  Mid-October I booked a by-myself no-family-allowed vacay to Puerto Rico to go shopping.

    Which leads to a random question for @jennlin -- aren't you the hotel/airline points guru? I really want to stay at a Doubletree in PR, but it's pretty spendy. Do you know of any fancy ways to book it on points or get a sweet deal?  I know it's a long shot, but I can just imagine de-stressing at this place. Plus, the warm cookie on check-in... mmmm
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  • NRyan55 said:
    jennlin said:
    @huntjul congrats to your brother!

    @Jennlin what is a mom-a-versary?
    A year of surviving kiddos.
    oo never heard of that before
    @nryan55 so are you going to take one?
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