Farewell (NOT A LOSS)

elephantsonpatrol · September 2014

@sugahcookie01 - can you edit the title to "Farewell (no loss)"

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jennjilljo · September 2014

Thank you.

selly08 · September 2014

Thank you Sugah!

chickyclg · September 2014

elephantsonpatrol said:
@sugahcookie01 - can you edit the title to "Farewell (no loss)"

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@elephantsonpatrol‌ you are so smart for asking this.

ltut · September 2014

Word. These ladies are cray.

elephantsonpatrol · September 2014

ltut said:

Word. These ladies are cray.

Wow. Now I'm totally going to take your vaccination nonsense seriously

StephanieLBerg · September 2014

sugahcookie01 said:

ltut said:

Word. These ladies are cray.

Then you can leave, too.

We won't be sad about it.

I second this! There's the door @ltut‌!

FlowerPower16 · September 2014

Alygohome said:

sugahcookie01 said:

this made my whole life

Best gif ever!

See ya OP. You will be missed since no one has a clue who you are.

:-@

Thank God this wasn't a loss post like many of us thought it was. I'm sure you purposely used that post title to stir up drama. Pretty shitty of you.

ltut · September 2014

No, not because you disagree. Because it's so terrible here to have any opinion other than that of the majority. Please, go find a gif for that.

jennjilljo · September 2014

ltut said:
Word. These ladies are cray.

ltut · September 2014

Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.

HerHighness · September 2014

ltut said:

No, not because you disagree. Because it's so terrible here to have any opinion other than that of the majority. Please, go find a gif for that.

And btw passionately defending ones opinion doesnt mean others cant have an opinion.

jennjilljo · September 2014

ltut said:
Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.

Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.

lilybug319 · September 2014

I'm just gonna put this here...

ltut · September 2014

jennhillhoite said:

ltut said:
Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.
Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.

Oh, so you have taken an hour and a half to listen to what I posted?

elephantsonpatrol · September 2014

ltut said:

Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.
Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.
Oh, so you have taken an hour and a half to listen to what I posted?

Its an INFOMERCIAL. No thank you.

mrsherr22 · September 2014

So happy to see it's just a random. Like PP my heart sank for a minute. Thank you Sugah for updating the title

jennjilljo · September 2014

ltut said:

jennhillhoite said:

ltut said:
Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.
Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.
Oh, so you have taken an hour and a half to listen to what I posted?

I read well and I'm not interested in the whole flu shot thing because I'm not adamant about the flu shot being mandatory. I read your posts and attached content and am not swayed.

Ducktale · September 2014

ltut said:

Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.
Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.
Oh, so you have taken an hour and a half to listen to what I posted?

So...you don't have a scientific journal article that we can read? The only evidence you have is an hour and a half long webinar? Rrrright, please post something more accessible. Or is there so little evidence to support your viewpoint that that is the best you have?

And how many different ways must we explain that alternative "opinions" on this topic endanger society?

Ducktale · September 2014

Every time this vaccine debate comes up we beg the antivaxxers to post research and by the time they actually link SOMETHING it's always a blog, op ed article, infomercial, etc. I have yet to see someone post a peer reviewed published scientific article or an alternative widely considered credible course.

ltut · September 2014

sugahcookie01 said:

Ducktale said:

ltut said:

jennhillhoite said:

ltut said:
Please take the time to listen to the research since you have taken so much time arguing. Its posted.
Several of us did and are not swayed. I don't think your sources and the research that you cited are strong enough to validate a change in my feelings towards the typical.
Oh, so you have taken an hour and a half to listen to what I posted?

So...you don't have a scientific journal article that we can read? The only evidence you have is an hour and a half long webinar? Rrrright, please post something more accessible. Or is there so little evidence to support your viewpoint that that is the best you have?

And how many different ways must we explain that alternative "opinions" on this topic endanger society?

The webinar is nothing but scientific peer reviewed journal articles.

ltut · September 2014

Ducktale said:
Every time this vaccine debate comes up we beg the antivaxxers to post research and by the time they actually link SOMETHING it's always a blog, op ed article, infomercial, etc. I have yet to see someone post a peer reviewed published scientific article or an alternative widely considered credible course.

If you would take the time to read the post where i gave the link, it says peer reviewed.

jennjilljo · September 2014

I can't believe that the vaccine thread is bleeding onto another thread because we don't agree. BSC! This whole day on TB has been BSC.

ltut · September 2014

I don't care about the selling stuff. Just listen to the explanation of research on the flu vaccine and howbthey come to their numbers on how many it really protects.

reneamac313 · September 2014

sugahcookie01 said:

WanderingA said:

toamberroy said:
Well, nothing like being called a cunt for the first time in my life by a complete stranger. Glad I can mark that off my bucket list.
I was once called a "cum dumpster" by a 13 year old. It was one of the highlights of my life.

My friend had a cat named Cum Dumpster. It was an indoor/outdoor cat and he'd go outside and yell its name. True story.

This made reading this thread worth my time. Now I know a name for my next pet...

jennjilljo · September 2014

We're probably just all hormonal

I feel bad for our husbands and children, lol.

HerHighness · September 2014

I actually listened to part of the webinar. Truthfully i do take extra vitamins in the winter to help counteract the flu and other ickies but i also will not take medical advice from a company whose intent is to sell me supplements. Its a conflict of interest. Its never just science when marketing is involved.

I get my flu shot but it isnt one that i have been arguing for in the vac thread either. I wouldnt show you a pro vaccine study from Merck and expect it to change your mind.

chickyclg · September 2014

This is how I picture PP right now

HerHighness · September 2014

Contrary to how it appears in the vaccination thread this board is very supportive and open to others having different opinions. People will disagree that is how the world works. When people are passionate about a subject they tend to appear like they arent listening to dissenting opinions. They are listening they just dont agree. This doesnt mean you arent entitled to you opinion. They are also entitled to the opinion that you are wrong.

Most if not all of your posts are on the vaccination thread. If you arent part of the community why do you care if we dont agree? Take some time to actually post around and get to know us before you pass judgement based on one days activity.

keskes008 · September 2014

@HerHighness‌ I

Downton Abbey, thank you!!

HeyStVincent · September 2014

ltut said:

Every time this vaccine debate comes up we beg the antivaxxers to post research and by the time they actually link SOMETHING it's always a blog, op ed article, infomercial, etc. I have yet to see someone post a peer reviewed published scientific article or an alternative widely considered credible course.
If you would take the time to read the post where i gave the link, it says peer reviewed.

Here's the thing. Peer-reviewed is great, but it doesn't always mean a whole lot unless you know who the "peers" are that are reviewing it. What's a better indicator of the strength of a study's results are when people who have nothing to do with you or your cause try to re-create your experiment and they get the same results you got. If they don't get the same results, there is a possiblity that the results of your experiment were chance alone and were likely due to confounding factors, weak statistical analysis, author bias, or just poor study design (along with a million other things that can skew a study's results). If more people then try to replicate your study and they also aren't getting your results, then this further suggests that your study is faulty.

The process by which other studies are used to support the results of another study is called the scientific process. This is why one study, or a small group of studies, should never, ever be heralded as a "truth." That is a dangerous way of thinking about science. Unfortunately, this is where the anti-vaccination crowd falls in thinking about vaccinations. They hold onto a small, minority of studies that aren't being replicated (at least not on a large scale), and then they hold this small group of studies up as a truth. They are ignoring the vast sea of studies that make up the overwhelming majority of literature on the topics of vaccination safety, and they're doing this to support an idea (usually a conspiracy idea) they have about how their world works. It has nothing to do with science and the scientific process.

The vast majority of studies on vaccinations ( some of which are long-term "cohort" studies) have been reviewed a billion times, are well-conducted, are large-scale, and have been replicated by lots and lots of independent groups, including universities, and yes, governments across the world. These studies that make up the vast majority of research on vaccines show that vaccines DO NOT cause autism. Yes, some people may have a harmful reaction to a vaccine (although this is extremely rare). Some people may have a harmful reaction to an antibiotic because they're allergic to that specific antibiotic. Should we also ban antibiotics?

Also, let's talk about the status of the world right now. Polio is real. It exists in other countries that don't have access to vaccinations. Please, let's not bring Polio back to the U.S. because we have a bunch of people who don't want to vaccinate their kids. It was once the leading cause of disability in the US and we got rid of it because of vaccines.

HerHighness · September 2014

keskes008 said:

@HerHighness‌ I Downton Abbey, thank you!!</div>

Me tooooo!!!

thejollyrancher · September 2014

Wow. The title, which I saw before the edit, actually made me tear up. I wasn't going to post anything because I haven't even introduced myself to F15 yet...(I was irrationally hesitant to jump in, but I've been super hard core lurking since my BFP and feel like I know you all so well). I don't mean to hijack this thread either, but the title just shook me.

I found out today that my best friend miscarried at 14 wks; we were just 2 wks apart and it was a blessing to have a bf to share in this incredible experience. My heart is just breaking for her. So devastating. I'm just praying for her and her family, and offering whatever support she needs and feels comfortable with. Ugh, I feel awful.

jennjilljo · September 2014

T&Ps to you, your friend and her family, @thejollyrancher‌. That's very difficult to deal with. I'm sorry that she is going through that and I'm sorry if this inappropriately named thread caused you extra distress.

HerHighness · September 2014

@thejollyrancher‌ welcome to feb. Im so very sorry to hear about your friend

it has to be hard on both of you. I'll send some prayers to her and her family as well. I hope you stick around. Dont let the bat shit crazy of today sway you for a great bumping experience.

HeyStVincent · September 2014

@thejollyrancher - I am so sorry to hear about your friend

That's rough. You're a good friend to offer her whatever support she needs and feels comfortable with.

mahalo3 · September 2014

@thejollyrancher‌ welcome, and I'm so sorry about your friend. I can't imagine how hard that much be.

nikajs · September 2014

The gifs in this thread just made my night.
I may be more of a lurker but these ladies have been a great when I have posted.. and they are freakin funny! I love this group.

mahalo3 · September 2014

Cum Dumpster! !!! Hahahahaha! I just died laughing! My husband thinks I'm nuts!!!

And who is OP??? I don't believe we have met. The board has been crazy the last few days!

thejollyrancher · September 2014

@mahalo3 @HeyStVincent @HerHighness @jennhillhoite

Thank you so much ladies, I really appreciate it.

p.s. I won't be going anywhere...it would take a lot more than that to get rid of this creepy lurker

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