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raraavis28 · September 2014

Keeptruckin said:

Okay, putting on my flame resistant winter coat. I don't like snow in September! I think Canadian winters suck lol!

Dammit, Keeptruckin, stop blaming all this on Canada! J/k

I think if I saw snow today I'd rock in a corner and cry. After last winter I am soooo not ready to be stuck indoors for months again.

Here's another coffee and weather-related UO: I love hot coffee in hot weather! I just love hot coffee all the time I guess....

spring_time · September 2014

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

Geicogecko · September 2014

JJ+SA said:

"The Cloud" f ing terrifies me. I don't trust it enough to actually store things I wouldn't want to lose so I'm constantly backing up my DD iphone gallery, but I am always afraid that the topless beach pics from our honeymoon are going to pop up where I least expect them.
Found one?

hahaha awesome

caybeh · September 2014

spring_time said:
New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

Agree! We aren't done having kids, though. I'm very fast to tell people that when they make the implication that we must be done since we have one of each. I also make it sound like I'm offended they think that way.

raraavis28 · September 2014

spring_time said:

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

I had to google "Million Dollar Family"....confession? But yeah, I get it. Growing up w/ 4 sisters, I would often hear people asking my mom, "Are you still trying for that boy?" It drove her nuts, and I understand.....such a rude comment on so many levels!

A few people have told me that the boys "need a baby sister." Um ok, I'm sure they'd love a little sister....or a little brother....um, it's not your business??? I think regardless of your family situation, you're gonna get some kind of comments at some point about the ratio of sexes.... :-/

Geicogecko · September 2014

spring_time said:

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

The kid who will be the worst off is DD #3. Can you imagine? "We had you because we were hoping for something else but now that you're here we'll keep you."

notkateanymore · September 2014

I know somebody who "made" his wife try for another one after having three girls and she ended up pregnant with twins. They are boys. Somebody asked him what they would have done if they had had the boys first and she said we wouldn't have 5 kids. I hate him.

minerswife17 · September 2014

notkateanymore said:

I know somebody who "made" his wife try for another one after having three girls and she ended up pregnant with twins. They are boys. Somebody asked him what they would have done if they had had the boys first and she said we wouldn't have 5 kids. I hate him.

thats so sad.

notkateanymore · September 2014

I just can't anymore.

Yes, this is exactly the fucking same Amy. You're right.

raraavis28 · September 2014

notkateanymore said:

I know somebody who "made" his wife try for another one after having three girls and she ended up pregnant with twins. They are boys. Somebody asked him what they would have done if they had had the boys first and she said we wouldn't have 5 kids. I hate him.

What a douche.

Aussie45 · September 2014

This keeps happening though. It's not like this is the fist celeb this has happened to. Use a device that isn't connected to the internet and it will be fine. It sucks that their privacy was violated but we've seen these types of stories time and time again. At what point do people start realizing that the internet isn't safe and use alternative methods of taking those types of pictures.

minerswife17 · September 2014

I think the lesson we've learned today is...

A) don't take nudie selfies

But if you must

HEADLESS nudie selfies!!

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

Honestly, DH & I are discussing whether we want to try for a 3rd aka girl. Doesn't mean I love my boys less. It wouldn't mean if I had a girl, I would love them less, and it doesn't mean if we had a boy I would love him less either.

You are complaining about people jumping to conclusion about your family but you are doing the exact same thing here assuming things about a family based on the desire to try for a girl one more time. It doesn't take away from the existing kids

I think it is the ickiness of pre-planning it. You already have two kids who you love, who just happen to be boys. You would like to try for a third, and are hoping for a girl. I don't judge a gender preference, I would assume most people have one.

It is the idea of planning for two kids, but if the second is a disappointment, you (general) will just try for a third to make up for it.

ETA: Also, when I see a family with 3 kids (first two of one gender, third child of the other), I don't think that they must have been trying for that opposite gender. So why the big assumption that a family must be done when they have one of each? Or that a family isn't complete with two of the same gender? It is the term "million dollar family" that bugs me because it implies perfection.

fintin · September 2014

I know a family who went to a doctor got on a different diet and even had sex in certain positions to have a girl. And had 2. They had 2 boys before hand and love them all equally and there is no resentment between the siblings who are now adults. And nobody says anything to the parents because it's none of anyone's damn business. It's a PRIVATE matter.

notkateanymore · September 2014

amy052006 said:

I just can't anymore.

Yes, this is exactly the fucking same Amy. You're right.
Come on, be fair. You know that isn't what I said. I said the attitude about how the victims are the ones who are to blame is the same. You should be able to take 7864 nude selfies and they are never stolen, the same way you should be able to dress and act how you want and not get raped.

You totally should be. I agree with that. But in this day and age, you just can't {pics not raped} and to act like there is no blame on the person who does it is ridiculous. There is SOMEBODY in those celebrities lives smart enough to know better if they aren't. Things, ALL THE THINGS IT SEEMS, are going to get hacked...why run the risk? Why put yourself in harm's way? There is zero reason to take a nude pic and have it on your phone, the cloud, your computer, snapchat...wherever. That's my point. Be nude all you want, live and in person...it's more fun that way anyway.

chelseymat · September 2014

gwapes said:

raraavis28 said:

spring_time said:

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

I had to google "Million Dollar Family"....confession? But yeah, I get it. Growing up w/ 4 sisters, I would often hear people asking my mom, "Are you still trying for that boy?" It drove her nuts, and I understand.....such a rude comment on so many levels!

A few people have told me that the boys "need a baby sister." Um ok, I'm sure they'd love a little sister....or a little brother....um, it's not your business??? I think regardless of your family situation, you're gonna get some kind of comments at some point about the ratio of sexes.... :-/

Yes! I'm youngest of 5, 4 older boys. "Oh they stopped when they finally got their girl?"

Or, maybe 6 kids sounds like a fkn nightmare.

So much this. People always stop me and say "Oh you finally got your girl" Its like "listen bitch, for your information I had 3 kids because I always wanted 3 kids and I was excited every time they were what they were. I actually wanted DD to be a boy" but I don't say it.

notkateanymore · September 2014

I have a very shameful FFFC...is it Friday yet?

notkateanymore · September 2014

LOL @JellyBellyStarr...that made me literally LOL.

notkateanymore · September 2014

OK, my FFFC is I'm throwing DD a Halloween party because she wants to invite the "popular" kids and she has no friends at her school and I want her to have some. Apparently one of the girls who came to her party last year asked yesterday if she was having another one. She came home all excited with this great idea about having another party this year because people want to come and she could get more friends. How do you say no to that? Even though I know it's nuts. She is inviting everybody pretty much, so it's not like it's a popular vs. unpopular thing but I know this probably is teaching her a horrible lesson...but she just gets so upset when she realizes that she doesn't have school friends. Like any theatre kid, she has tons of friends at her theatre group, but she's only there a couple of times a week...school is every day!

Oh well, I guess my FFFC is that I'm buying friends for DD with pizza, cake pops and a neon blacklight dance party. Sue me.

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

New UO (just because I have to let it out): I detest the term million dollar family. It makes me angry every time I hear it. I hate the implication that we must be done having kids just because we have one of each. I think we are done, but it makes me want to have a third just to prove that this is not why we are done.

On Kardashians, Kim was saying if they have another girl, they will go for a third. If they have a boy, they will probably be done. I have heard that reasoning before, but it bugs me. It makes me wonder what that second child will think when they grow up if they hear that sentiment. Were they not good enough?

Probably thinking too much into it, but it bugs me.

Honestly, DH & I are discussing whether we want to try for a 3rd aka girl. Doesn't mean I love my boys less. It wouldn't mean if I had a girl, I would love them less, and it doesn't mean if we had a boy I would love him less either.

You are complaining about people jumping to conclusion about your family but you are doing the exact same thing here assuming things about a family based on the desire to try for a girl one more time. It doesn't take away from the existing kids

I think it is the ickiness of pre-planning it. You already have two kids who you love, who just happen to be boys. You would like to try for a third, and are hoping for a girl. I don't judge a gender preference, I would assume most people have one.

It is the idea of planning for two kids, but if the second is a disappointment, you (general) will just try for a third to make up for it.

According to you as an outsider...your guilty of what you are complaining of.

You are angry someone assumed you are done.

A paragraph later you are assuming the second kid was a disappointment? how do you know that?

yes, Kate's guy is an asshole....they're out there. I would hope one asshole doesn't make others assume everyone has the same motives/opinions

Because by their own words they are saying that they wouldn't consider having a third if the second were the "correct" gender. How is that not a disappointment?

I think you are taking this too personally. It is an UO of mine that people should not pre-design their families based on the gender of hypothetical children. Not everyone does this, nor is it everyone's motivation in the number of children they have. I do not assume anyone's motivation, however, when they publicly announce their intentions (a la Kim Kardashian), I judge it.

FYI I come from a family of three girls. My youngest sister is several years younger than me. I distinctly remember my mom being asked if they were trying for a third so she could get her boy. I don't like the assumption that just because she had two girls, she must have wanted a boy. I flat out do not like the assumption that a family is not perfect without a girl and a boy somewhere in the mix.

notkateanymore · September 2014

Thank you @diapersnwipes I'm sitting here crying like a nutjob thinking about all these girls having all these friends and DD just not...it's not all their fault, she's an odd duck. She is going to have friends when she's older, just like I did. But weird only children aren't super popular in 5th grade.

She does text with half the Sr. class of our high school who she became "besties" with at summer camp.

penguingrrl · September 2014

I hate the assumption that you would try for another child because you want one of a particular sex. From the time Emma was a year old I had people ask when we would "try for our boy." And once we found out we were having a boy we got the "oh good, your family is complete" comments. Umm, we were trying for a third child because we wanted a third child. We wouldn't have considered TTC if we weren't open to either sex. If pressed to choose we actually would have chosen a third girl, but we were thrilled to death to have a boy as well. There was no "well, our family is complete because one child has a penis" moment at all. It was more of a "well, we wanted three and we have three, our family is complete" moment.

notkateanymore · September 2014

Thanks y'all. You're making me feel better. We live in a weird little community, so some of it is just crap that happens here. Oh well, we're going to invite theatre friends and lake friends plus classmates...they all know each other for the most part...such a small world!

Aussie45 · September 2014

We're shooting for two LOs but if the next one is a girl, I'd be more inclined to try for a third one. I want a boy and a girl, not that I'm not grateful for the child and gender that I have, I would just like to experience both. There's nothing wrong with that.

I don't say shit like "Oh your family is complete now that you have a boy and a girl." I just congratulate them on being pregnant and move on.

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

I am taking it personally because it is personal.

Maybe my confession would be if I had a boy and a girl I wouldn't be considering a third. Doesn't make me a bad person and it certainly doesn't mean I am disappointed with the 2 sons I have and love BOTH very much. But yes, I wanted a girl.

I think it's odd you can't see the double standard.
Just stop judging them on their parenting choices just like you don't like to be judged on yours. Why does their reason matter but yours shouldn't?

In the nicest way possible, are you questioning me for judging in an UO thread? That is what this thread is all about. Does anybody like being judged for their parent choices? No. Do we judge people all day long? Yes.

For the record, I don't feel judged or hurt that people think I am stopping at two kids because I have a boy and a girl. In fact, I don't even feel judged if people think I am done because I can barely handle the two I have. I just don't like the societal implication that a family is "perfect" once they have one of each gender.

ETA: I also don't think it makes you a bad person. I don't think anybody is even questioning the love for your sons. I think my DH would feel the exact same way. I also think he would be more inclined to try for #3 if our first two were the same gender. I just don't agree with that being a reason to have 3 kids if we were only planning on 2.

Andrewsgal · September 2014

notkateanymore said:
OK, my FFFC is I'm throwing DD a Halloween party because she wants to invite the "popular" kids and she has no friends at her school and I want her to have some. Apparently one of the girls who came to her party last year asked yesterday if she was having another one. She came home all excited with this great idea about having another party this year because people want to come and she could get more friends. How do you say no to that? Even though I know it's nuts. She is inviting everybody pretty much, so it's not like it's a popular vs. unpopular thing but I know this probably is teaching her a horrible lesson...but she just gets so upset when she realizes that she doesn't have school friends. Like any theatre kid, she has tons of friends at her theatre group, but she's only there a couple of times a week...school is every day!

Oh well, I guess my FFFC is that I'm buying friends for DD with pizza, cake pops and a neon blacklight dance party. Sue me.

I totally feel you I would throw so much money at a party like that if DD asked! Anyone who says they wouldn't is a liar!

notkateanymore · September 2014

Seriously thank y'all. I was too ashamed to tell my IRL friends, glad I have y'all too tell!

notkateanymore · September 2014

Oh the Tiny Kingdom is a special brand of crazy @amy052006 let me tell you.

amy052006 said:

And I'd totally throw Kate's kid a party too.
Exactly. This isn't some entitled brat screaming for a party. Also, I have watched enough Jersey Belle to know Alabama is nuts, so carry on my friend. Do what needs to be done!

lyingliarlies · September 2014

Since we're doing confessions.....I have never had a psl. And I whore out all things Fall - the weather, hockey, pumpkin beer, festivals. Maybe I'll try one this year.

One girl I know who shared that Food Babe pic about the super scary psl is always sharing stuff like that.......well target cartwheel gives homegirl away by posting on facebook when she saves 5% on a not-so-natural-or-organic icee or soda. Lol.

zbeesma86 · September 2014

minerswife17 said:

I think the lesson we've learned today is...

A) don't take nudie selfies

But if you must

HEADLESS nudie selfies!!

Nudes 101-- faceless pics.

& PSL is soooooooo good! Never had one? Next time you're in FL I'll treat ya to one! They are amazing iced & hot!!

Aussie45 · September 2014

I love Starbucks. It's super overpriced, but I love the way the pumpkin spice latte, white chocolate mocha, and vanilla bean frappucino taste. It's worth it for the $5. I'll save money somewhere else

Aussie45 · September 2014

I don't like homeschooling. DH's brother and sister are homeschooled and they're almost a whole year behind as of right now. DH's aunt and uncle homeschool their two girls and they are the nicest kids ever, yet the youngest can hardly talk to people and is super shy. I think it's a major disservice to kids to not be around other kids their age. Socially, it seems like all of the homeschooled kids I know are behind. I'm sure they can catch up, but at the same time, if you're not seriously dedicated to making it work, I think it's easy for school to fall to the wayside.

lyingliarlies · September 2014

cjcouple said:

lyingliarlies said:

Since we're doing confessions.....I have never had a psl. And I whore out all things Fall - the weather, hockey, pumpkin beer, festivals.

Me either...but I HATE Starbucks in general. UO?

Nope, their coffee is nothing special. Unless I have a gift card or traveling, I won't get it. A local coffee shop/roaster has something called a mocha shake - just like it sounds it's coffee with chocolate, ice cream, and whipped cream. All Starbucks has to offer is some shit with icy chunks in it - no thanks.

Another FFFC, I did find a similar coffee milkshake type concoction that's pretty darn good and a million times better than starbucks.....at a gas station chain. I guess that's an UO/FFFC along the lines of liking olive garden right

:P

bumpuser924057 · September 2014

My family planning UO: prior to getting pregnant with my second and third, people would make comments about how they hoped I'd have a girl next, and I (knowing I was only going to have two kids) wanted another boy because I would rather give DS1 a brother to grow up with than a sister. My brother and I fought like cats and dogs throughout our childhoods and we still aren't very close, and I didn't want that for my kids.

This is yet another year where I'm trying to lose weight during pumpkin spice latte season and it makes me SO SAD. When are they going to start making a sugar free version?!

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

cjcouple said:

I am taking it personally because it is personal.

Maybe my confession would be if I had a boy and a girl I wouldn't be considering a third. Doesn't make me a bad person and it certainly doesn't mean I am disappointed with the 2 sons I have and love BOTH very much. But yes, I wanted a girl.

I think it's odd you can't see the double standard.
Just stop judging them on their parenting choices just like you don't like to be judged on yours. Why does their reason matter but yours shouldn't?

In the nicest way possible, are you questioning me for judging in an UO thread? That is what this thread is all about. Does anybody like being judged for their parent choices? No. Do we judge people all day long? Yes.

For the record, I don't feel judged or hurt that people think I am stopping at two kids because I have a boy and a girl. In fact, I don't even feel judged if people think I am done because I can barely handle the two I have. I just don't like the societal implication that a family is "perfect" once they have one of each gender.

ha - It's not about your opinion on the topic of social implications it was how contradictory you were.

I absolutely agree - people shouldn't assume anything about family planning/motivations.
You included.

So Kim said "If I have a boy, I might be done." this has nothing to do with what is perfect to everyone else, it has to do with HER family.

I have written a response several times, but have deleted each time. It is my opinion. I have already said my own DH disagrees with my opinion, which is why it is posted in an UO thread. You are right, I do not believe I have been contradictory. I have said that I don't like assumptions about family planning, and I also don't assume the motivations of the family planning of others.

However, when those motivations are laid out before me, I have certain opinions that disagree with yours. I am sure you could find a multitude of things I do or believe that you disagree with.

I am sorry your feelings have been hurt as this strikes close to home for you. It is just my opinion. Ignore it.

Andrewsgal · September 2014

LalaMama81 said:

Nope, not a Starbucks fan either. I think it's one of those things that people do just to say they do it, even subconsciously. I'm not saying I've never been or won't meet a friend for coffee there; but I always thought it was a suburban status symbol kind of thing. Now, that's my opinion living on the east coast.

Seriously. So I can't like Starbucks because I love their dark roast? It has to be a status symbol? What kind of status symbol is that? I am too lazy to brew my own coffee. Sorry lala I like you but this is obnoxious. Just because you don't like something no one else can?

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

cjcouple said:

I am taking it personally because it is personal.

Maybe my confession would be if I had a boy and a girl I wouldn't be considering a third. Doesn't make me a bad person and it certainly doesn't mean I am disappointed with the 2 sons I have and love BOTH very much. But yes, I wanted a girl.

I think it's odd you can't see the double standard.
Just stop judging them on their parenting choices just like you don't like to be judged on yours. Why does their reason matter but yours shouldn't?

In the nicest way possible, are you questioning me for judging in an UO thread? That is what this thread is all about. Does anybody like being judged for their parent choices? No. Do we judge people all day long? Yes.

For the record, I don't feel judged or hurt that people think I am stopping at two kids because I have a boy and a girl. In fact, I don't even feel judged if people think I am done because I can barely handle the two I have. I just don't like the societal implication that a family is "perfect" once they have one of each gender.

ha - It's not about your opinion on the topic of social implications it was how contradictory you were.

I absolutely agree - people shouldn't assume anything about family planning/motivations.
You included.

So Kim said "If I have a boy, I might be done." this has nothing to do with what is perfect to everyone else, it has to do with HER family.

I have written a response several times, but have deleted each time. It is my opinion. I have already said my own DH disagrees with my opinion, which is why it is posted in an UO thread. You are right, I do not believe I have been contradictory. I have said that I don't like assumptions about family planning, and I also don't assume the motivations of the family planning of others.

However, when those motivations are laid out before me, I have certain opinions that disagree with yours. I am sure you could find a multitude of things I do or believe that you disagree with.

I am sorry your feelings have been hurt as this strikes close to home for you. It is just my opinion. Ignore it.

Oh my feelings are not hurt.

I just think you are being very closed minded and stubborn. And yes, it is VERY contradictory. Your judging exactly the same thing you are angry about happening to you

Oh well, maybe one day you will learn.

BTW the apology was sincere, but since you took it to the next level.

Perhaps one day you will learn not to be quite so sensitive. ::pat on the head::

MomIn2013 · September 2014

Andrewsgal said:

LalaMama81 said:

Nope, not a Starbucks fan either. I think it's one of those things that people do just to say they do it, even subconsciously. I'm not saying I've never been or won't meet a friend for coffee there; but I always thought it was a suburban status symbol kind of thing. Now, that's my opinion living on the east coast.

Seriously. So I can't like Starbucks because I love their dark roast? It has to be a status symbol? What kind of status symbol is that? I am too lazy to brew my own coffee. Sorry lala I like you but this is obnoxious. Just because you don't like something no one else can?

This. Getting a coffee from Starbucks is something I do so I can enjoy it to the very last drop, not something I do "so I can say I do it".

Hollylb3 · September 2014

I like mcdonalds's caramel frappes more than anything I can get at Starbucks.

Also, if #2 is another boy, I'll seriously consider trying for a girl afterwards.

spring_time · September 2014

cjcouple said:

spring_time said:

BTW the apology was sincere, but since you took it to the next level.

Perhaps one day you will learn not to be quite so sensitive. ::pat on the head::

Please don't mistake my attempts to educate you on your narrow minded ways as me being sensitive. lol .

Deleted because it wasn't nice. Have a good day, CJ.

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