I'm very sorry to the loss moms who have to read stuff like this. I can't even begin to imagine. I had a very rough pregnancy with my last many complications, ultrasounds & sickness. And now I have a beautiful boy that I wouldn't trade for anything & would do it all again & am with this baby. It is so worth the end result & I remind myself everyday when I'm sick that it is truly a miracle!
Wow you guys are hard core... Cut the lady some slack. Everyone makes mistakes. I highly doubt she meant that she doesn't want to be pregnant, but if it's her first, because this is my first, it can feel like your world is ending. I've been sick just about every day, and I too have said the phrase pregnancy sucks, but that's right after I get done gagging in the bathroom or pooping my brains out or passing out from exhaustion. Even though she may not read this, and it may be insensitive to some that have lost a baby, we all have to be adults and try to give her helpful replies, not bully her because of a comment she wrote when she felt she couldn't take the ms anymore. I know all of you have been there whether you write a post about it or not, and it's not fair to judge someone so harshly because of a post like this. Some of the things she wrote can be looked at as offensive... But i think she was clearly not 100% when she wrote it, that's all I'm saying. There may be a better way to tell her she was being insensitive is all. @snickersforeveryone@MissyCee@estamos_tomamos@mamachancey
I call people out for being insensitive, I'm hard core like that. Now gtfo
I really didn't think this post was going where it ended up. I'm deeply angry and have tears in my eyes for your (both OP and @b&bysmith15) insensitive, horrible, and fucked up responses. I seriously cannot believe you called out someone with a recent loss in this post.
Trust me, you have no idea what it's like to go through a loss. Thinking you are missing a brother is nothing like the actual pain, physically and emotionally, of going through a loss. I would have been deathly sick for the whole pregnancy if that would have meant I would still have my baby I lost. Although I'm not puking, I've had other issues with this pregnancy and I am happy for them. Even my OB pointed out that MS usually means a healthy baby. So hell yes bring it on.
When I was a FTM, I never stated I wished I wasn't pregnant or anything of the sort. I counted down the weeks to when MS usually let up. I knew when we were trying to get pregnant that MS is very real and I was ready. Sure it sucked majorly at times but everything you go through in pregnancy is worth it once you hold your baby in your arms.
Sure people make mistakes, but you apologize and learn from those mistakes. This board deserves a major apology from both of you.
I am so sick of people excusing bullshit because a person is a first time mom. I'm a first time mom. I've never had a loss. That doesn't mean that I post stupid, insensitive crap and call out one of our loss moms. It's called empathy. My heart breaks for everyone on this board who has ever had a loss. I can't even imagine. And I can't imagine basically wishing a pregnancy away so I didn't have morning sickness.
@b&bysmith15 you are a pretty shitty person. Seriously. Not only are you completely insensitive, you e given an insincere apology and have spit in the faces of our loss moms. It may be snarky here but at least we have compassion and dignity. If you think being pregnant sucks then this is not the place for you. Venting is one thing, but being an ignorant and insensitive twat is another. And how the fuck are we supposed to be helpful to the OP? Telling her to get the fuck over it was the most helpful thing that was done. And hey maybe we made her realize how badly words can hurt.
To all our loss moms: I'm so, so sorry you had to deal with this thread. I know how bad it hurt me with my previous lost so I can only imagine how badly it hurt everyone else. Sending everyone the biggest, creepiest internet hug ever.
So I had a loss but hoping this is my first take home baby....so am I still a FTM? This pregnancy has was more symptoms than my last one, but I am not going to say it sucks because I want my healthy baby. Until you experience the loss of your own baby you have no idea what it is like. Stop making excuses for people who are "FTM", because there is no excuse for insensitivity. But then again calling out a loss mom is worse...
BFP #1 1/4/14 | Diagnosed with Trisomy 13 at 12 weeks 3/6/14 | MMC 3/21/14 | D&C 3/24/14
BFP #2 7/1/14 | DS born March 2015 BFP#3 5/22/17 | MC 6/17/17 at 7w3d
I'm still in shock, and on the verge of pulling out every ugly name I know. Being banned for cussing out this miserable piece of humanity called b&bysmith15 would almost be worth it.
So I had a loss but hoping this is my first take home baby....so am I still a FTM? This pregnancy has was more symptoms than my last one, but I am not going to say it sucks because I want my healthy baby. Until you experience the loss of your own baby you have no idea what it is like. Stop making excuses for people who are "FTM", because there is no excuse for insensitivity. But then again calling out a loss mom is worse...
I think that's a personal decision. As far as baby showers go, yes. You're a FTM. But you are NOT a FTM - you have an angel baby. So ... call yourself whatever YOU want. I'm so sorry for your prior loss and finger's crossed this one gets to come home and snuggle you up.
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I agree. I call myself a FTM because my loss was at 8 weeks at the most. The vast majority of the pregnancy experience is unknown to me.
Can this whole post just be deleted? How incredibly insensitive to the poor women who have had losses to call them out like that! OP and WK who called those ladies out, they don't even deserve to even be in this group! Wow....just wow.
I am a FTM and have never suffered a loss and fortunately had no issue conceiving (I know how lucky I am)...and the original post annoyed me earlier today. I read through this this afternoon and just wow. It made me so angry, and I have never personally experienced loss like this. I cannot imagine what those moms are going through and I guess it's better to just think of them than think of the ignorant people that posted some of these things.
@MandJS you are right. I got defensive for the moms and my claws wanted to come out! Thankfully this thread will show the support this group has for each other. With the exception of the the few wackos.
Please stop using "I'm a FTM" as an excuse for your insensitive, ridiculous posting. I'm a FTM too, but TB has made me realize how fortunate I am to never have experienced the losses that some of these wonderful moms have gone through. If you would take the time to at least lurk you would find out that some of these women have gone through extraordinary lengths to become pregnant and/or to carry a baby to term. "I'm a FTM" is not a free pass.
I can't. I literally can't. I will be back to Cuss you two the fuck out but right now thinking about the babies I lost I just can't.
To all our moms who are suffering true pain, I am sorry. I am sorry you had to read this. I am sorry neither one of these heartless women, I use that loosely, apologized. I am just so sorry.
This is extremely insensitive. I was miserable during my first pregnancy and now again. But you know what? If I get another healthy baby out of this I'm the luckiest girl in the world.
I'm a "FTM" and I'm not stupid. This post is stupid. I've been lucky enough to not have any ms, but that doesn't mean I'm totally insensitive to those who are going through symptoms worse than me. I'm especially sensitive to those who have experienced loss, whether it be once or multiple times. Just because I've never experienced it doesn't mean I can't sympathize. Do your research before you start calling people out. If you had been here, you would have known who were our loss moms and you would know the general environment of the board. How insensitive do you have to be? Take your unrealistic expectations and leave. Go somewhere where people will blow smoke up your ass and have sympathy on your stupidity. You're an idiot. I pity you. If you hate pregnancy so much, you should have kept your legs shut.
Every pregnancy is different and I don't really have useful advice but it will pass and when the baby is here you'll understand how very blessed you are. Hang in there. Try to see the positive side and if you are like a lot of women, morning sickness should pass fairly soon.
Every pregnancy is different and I don't really have useful advice but it will pass and when the baby is here you'll understand how very blessed you are. Hang in there. Try to see the positive side and if you are like a lot of women, morning sickness should pass fairly soon.
Look, I know it's your thing to come in and be a WK for everyone who gets flamed but this is really not the time or place. This post hurt a lot members here, whether they're regs or lurkers I can promise you many, many people were offended by the OP and then again by the WK who beat you here.
If you want to WK that's your prerogative, but there's a time and a place and this is not it. All you've done is continue to condone this horrible post without a care for the women who were offended and hurt by it.
Again, no. I will post what I want. Feel free to ignore me. It's super easy to push ignore if you go to my profile. I have a right to post and nothing I said was directed or aimed at anyone but the OP.
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Just push that little ignore button and move along. I am not going anywhere. I'll give advice or post when and where I feel like it.
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JFC, the first WK was bad enough. WHY DO YOU WANT TO STAY SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE UPSET ALL OF THE REGULAR MEMBERS?!?!?! And you're going to do this HERE.
You're going "post when and where [you] feel like it" and show us that by responding totes normal to the OP in THIS thread?!
You keep saying we need to grow up. YOU NEED TO GROW THE FUCK UP!
Take a fucking hint. We're childish for calling you out? You're fucking childish for staying somewhere knowingly antagonizing. I don't know what you THINK you're doing but you are a fucking TROLL.
This thread is NOT the place to make your fucking point. Whatever you think it is!
Again, no. I will post what I want. Feel free to ignore me. It's super easy to push ignore if you go to my profile. I have a right to post and nothing I said was directed or aimed at anyone but the OP.
You're disgusting for supporting such disgusting posters.
This is a happy place? Oh yea? Where did you read that? Is there a description somewhere that says The Bump is a happy place to celebrate our wombs?? Where the fuck did you pull that bullshit from??
You have INSULTED our loss moms beyond belief. You disgust me. I, like the others, will have to step away from this thread before I violate TOU.
Yes, please report my post because I was clearly stirring the pot. Sweetheart, this is a free country. I will post a comment when I want. I am not going anywhere. If you don't like me, don't write to me.
You are disgusting for assuming everyone realizes they are being insensitive. Poor girl probably didn't know. Bashing her won't really change what she wrote. What I wrote wasn't supporting her choice of wording but it was reminding her "nicely" that she was blessed.
You are disgusting for assuming everyone realizes they are being insensitive. Poor girl probably didn't know. Bashing her won't really change what she wrote. What I wrote wasn't supporting her choice of wording but it was reminding her "nicely" that she was blessed.
Oh honey, you should learn to use the quote button so we can tell who you're calling names.
And the "poor girl" probably didn't know what, exactly? That people have miscarriages, still born babies, babies born too sick to survive, and more and that some of those parents might be on this board reading her complain about "why me?" and "this is so unfair?"
You know what's unfair? Giving birth to your son at 20 weeks. Giving birth to a baby who is fighting a losing battle. Carrying a baby to "10 weeks" only to find out your baby stopped growing at 6. That's unfair. Those are women who have a valid reason for asking "why me" and saying life is unfair. Those are also the women who use their experiences to be stronger than anyone else instead of wallowing in their pity, the ones who DON'T ask "why me."
Instead of condoning what the OP said (which you did) you should be explaining why what she said was hurtful.
Re: being pregnant sucks !!!!!!!!!
To all our loss moms: I'm so, so sorry you had to deal with this thread. I know how bad it hurt me with my previous lost so I can only imagine how badly it hurt everyone else. Sending everyone the biggest, creepiest internet hug ever.
BFP#3 5/22/17 | MC 6/17/17 at 7w3d
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I agree. I call myself a FTM because my loss was at 8 weeks at the most. The vast majority of the pregnancy experience is unknown to me.
Married: 10/04/2014
DD1: 03/02/15
DD2: 08/04/16
Baby 3 Due: 11/23/18!
To all our moms who are suffering true pain, I am sorry. I am sorry you had to read this. I am sorry neither one of these heartless women, I use that loosely, apologized. I am just so sorry.
You're almost in your second tri!! just hand in there!!
Hang in there.
Try to see the positive side and if you are like a lot of women, morning sickness should pass fairly soon.
If you want to WK that's your prerogative, but there's a time and a place and this is not it. All you've done is continue to condone this horrible post without a care for the women who were offended and hurt by it.
I'm glad to see you don't give a flying fuck about the women in this community though, that's precious.
Bless your heart.
JFC, the first WK was bad enough. WHY DO YOU WANT TO STAY SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE UPSET ALL OF THE REGULAR MEMBERS?!?!?! And you're going to do this HERE.
You're going "post when and where [you] feel like it" and show us that by responding totes normal to the OP in THIS thread?!
lmao obviously a typo... but it sounds so funny the way it came out! bahaha
And the "poor girl" probably didn't know what, exactly? That people have miscarriages, still born babies, babies born too sick to survive, and more and that some of those parents might be on this board reading her complain about "why me?" and "this is so unfair?"
You know what's unfair? Giving birth to your son at 20 weeks. Giving birth to a baby who is fighting a losing battle. Carrying a baby to "10 weeks" only to find out your baby stopped growing at 6. That's unfair. Those are women who have a valid reason for asking "why me" and saying life is unfair. Those are also the women who use their experiences to be stronger than anyone else instead of wallowing in their pity, the ones who DON'T ask "why me."
Instead of condoning what the OP said (which you did) you should be explaining why what she said was hurtful.