November 2014 Moms

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  • alysonmhalysonmh member
    edited May 2014
    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed. Breastfeeding isn't easy whether you work or stay home but it's the right choice. 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed aren't very good excuses.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for ranting, breastfeeding is a hot subject for me.

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  • DoubleUp8 said:
    Right!  I just want some subtle teddy bears, damnit! 
    I was browsing BRU saw this, and thought of you. I know it is a cutesie set, but it is suble and there are bears :-)

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhh.  You may have just found my baby bedding. 
    Yay! :-D
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  • DoubleUp8 said:

    DoubleUp8 said:
    Right!  I just want some subtle teddy bears, damnit! 
    I was browsing BRU saw this, and thought of you. I know it is a cutesie set, but it is suble and there are bears :-)

    https://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12341214&cp=2255957.2273443.2256244.2256251.3123060.3123062&parentPage=family
    Ohhhhhhhhhhh.  You may have just found my baby bedding. 
    Yay! :-D
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  • I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE "VACCINATION VS. NON-VACCINATION" MOVEMENT. Particulary from this Facebook page called Natural Parenting. UGH the two sides will NEVER agree so lets just drop it ok?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?
    The reason why the pro-vaccination movement doesn't get dropped is that many people believe that not vaccinating children is a public health issue rather than just a parenting one. Those who choose not to vaccinate aren't just potentially harming their own children, they're also taking herd immunity away from those who aren't able to vaccinate for health/age reasons.

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  • one issue i have with cloth diapering is that both dh and i work full time. my child care situation will most likely be my mom and MIL and i feel like it's awkward to ask them to wash out pee and poop from a cloth diaper. i'm sure they would if i asked them to but it seems regular diapers are much easier. i should mention im not really educated on cloth diapering

    what do moms who send their kids to daycare do?

     

    All of what @abbyful said. DH and I work full time, and our dcp just throws them in a wetbag for us. We do use these disposable liners so that she just tosses the poop in the trash. Easy peasy.

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  • alysonmhalysonmh member
    edited May 2014
    alysonmh said:
    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for the rant! One of the great hormonal perks pregnancy has offered me.

    Maybe people who formula feed feel judged by people and that is why they seem to demand extra respect.  I mean, read the bolded.  Judgey much?
    Breastfeeding is better than formula feeding, that's a fact. So when people don't approve of formula feeding it's based off of facts not judgements or opinions. It's annoying for strangers to demand extra respect for doing nothing that deserves it.

    I think most people would agree if you are not choosing the best option for your child, it's a poor choice. Everyone judges for one reason or another, mine just happens to be related to formula feeding. Isn't this the thread for unpopular opinions?
  • I want to become a CLC so I obviously love and support breastfeeding. That said, sometimes women arent being lazy and sometimes they are. LLL and WIC agree breastfeeding is best and educate but I dont feel either put FF mothers down. At least thats how it was when I went to my LLL meetings.

    WIC, Im on it and agree with the drs note. Not like the dr wont write one if you just choose to FF. You need a note to get soy milk so why not?

    CD, doing it round 2, well half and half. My daycare sucks with it! I used the disposiable liners, told them to just toss them. Never did, just rolled it all up and put it in a pkastic bag in my wet bag. Smh....mind you, I work there. Not in that room though. Im going to let them use disposibles and last diaper change, make it a cd.
  • alysonmh said:
    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed. Breastfeeding isn't easy whether you work or stay home but it's the right choice. 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed aren't very good excuses.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for ranting, breastfeeding is a hot subject for me.

    Woah.  Way to attack people there. Women who don't breastfeed are lazy? 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed "aren't very good."  Those are some pretty strong and unsubstantiated facts right there. 

    Mommy shaming bullshit.


    Believe it or not, there are TONS of women who choose not to breastfeed because they say it's too much work or they feel awkward doing it. Umm yes, those are are pretty poor and lazy excuses. I am not referring to women who don't have a good supply or can't breastfeed because of work. I am specifically referring to women who just "don't feel like" breastfeeding.

    Did you know that less than 20% of women breastfeed after 3 months and less than 40% do before 3 months? Do you really think 60% of women have a legitimate excuse not to breastfeed? I guess before formula was invented all infants just starved to death. You are no more informed if you actually think most women aren't breastfeeding because of reasons outside of their control.
  • alysonmh said:
    alysonmh said:
    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed. Breastfeeding isn't easy whether you work or stay home but it's the right choice. 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed aren't very good excuses.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for ranting, breastfeeding is a hot subject for me.

    Woah.  Way to attack people there. Women who don't breastfeed are lazy? 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed "aren't very good."  Those are some pretty strong and unsubstantiated facts right there. 

    Mommy shaming bullshit.


    Believe it or not, there are TONS of women who choose not to breastfeed because they say it's too much work or they feel awkward doing it. Umm yes, those are are pretty poor and lazy excuses. I am not referring to women who don't have a good supply or can't breastfeed because of work. I am specifically referring to women who just "don't feel like" breastfeeding.

    Did you know that less than 20% of women breastfeed after 3 months and less than 40% do before 3 months? Do you really think 60% of women have a legitimate excuse not to breastfeed? I guess before formula was invented all infants just starved to death. You are no more informed if you actually think most women aren't breastfeeding because of reasons outside of their control.
    Similar to what I bolded, I've had women tell me BFing is disgusting and that's why they make formula now.  And they've tried to talk me out of BFing.
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    one issue i have with cloth diapering is that both dh and i work full time. my child care situation will most likely be my mom and MIL and i feel like it's awkward to ask them to wash out pee and poop from a cloth diaper. i'm sure they would if i asked them to but it seems regular diapers are much easier. i should mention im not really educated on cloth diapering

    what do moms who send their kids to daycare do?

     

    I have no desire to CD, but my MIL CD-ed all 4 of her kids. So when she babysits, she still dumps poop out of a disposable diaper into the toilet before throwing the diaper away.

    If it's something you're interested in, I would ask your moms what they think.

    I don't CD myself, though I am contemplating it for this one.  

    I could be wrong, and that is very likely, but I'm pretty sure that you are supposed to dump the poop out of disposable diapers before putting them in the trash anyways.  Something about human waste and the spread of disease if it is put in a land fill.  Clearly I've done a ton of research on it.
    Maybe in an ideal world. No one IRL does that except my MIL. I can also guarantee you that they don't do it at daycares.


    I'm not saying most people do.  Hell I don't do it most of the time.  I'm just saying that you're "supposed" to do it.


    Yeah I did this until my son's massive dumps started clogging my toilet.



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  • lissydee said:
    R.e. "Not producing enough" with regards to breastfeeding (I am not quoting here because I'm speaking generally to the subject as it was brought up multiple times). I think there is a difference between a perceived under supply/no supply versus a physical one. It's rare that a woman cannot produce enough if she is breast feeding right. What tends to happen is that some are misinformed with how breastfeeding works. It's a supply and demand system. If we remove the supply at any time (even if it's just skipping one feed so that someone else can give a bottle) then you affect your supply. If you don't express your breasts (manually or via a pump) for every bottle your infant gets, then you adversely affect your supply. All it takes is just one time skipping the pump while the baby gets a bottle for you to lose it. This all ties into proper breastfeeding education and breast feeding supposed post partum. It's a very large commitment to breast feeding and If there isnt enough support in place to help you and baby maintain breastfeeding, then "failure" can happen.

    I agree with your statement to a degree. My mom just had a series of bad luck when it came to the first 3 of us kids. She kept clogging, getting mastitis, infections, she under produced from day 1 and the doctor made her stop for her health and our health. She kept trying though and had very little problems on #4, finally. She kept trying because she really wanted to BF all of us but it did not happen.

    I have known many ladies that production has been an issue for. Even with stimulation and pumping stimulation it just didn't work for them. They went to FF because they would rather their child eat than starve with 1/3 of the supply they should be getting.


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  • alysonmh said:
    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed. Breastfeeding isn't easy whether you work or stay home but it's the right choice. 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed aren't very good excuses.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for ranting, breastfeeding is a hot subject for me.

    Um what? So we should punish the baby and not give him/her any food because the mom can't/won't breastfeed? WTF is wrong with you?

    I don't think 98% of the people that don't breastfeed have a crappy reason for it. That seems pretty high. I know this only accounts for 10%ish of people, but if you have infertility issues you are more likely to have a lower milk supply (PCOS especially). What if breastfeeding is too stressful for the mom (which equals a stressed out baby)? Yes - we all know breast is best, but there are times where it just doesn't work out. 

    Sounds like you've been pretty fortunate in life, not everyone is so lucky. 

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  • A friend told me yesterday that her parents (back in the 80's) were poor and couldn't afford formula and her mom couldn't BF. So she had whole milk starting the day she came home from the hospital.


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    alysonmh said:

    I completely agree that WIC should not offer formula without a doctors note. It's not fair that taxpayers have to pay for a woman's choice to be lazy and not breastfeed. Breastfeeding isn't easy whether you work or stay home but it's the right choice. 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed aren't very good excuses.

    On the same note, my unpopular opinion is of pregnant women (especially on TB) who demand extra respect for their choice to formula feed because they are tired of everyone lecturing them on the benefits of breast feeding. Nobody deserves extra respect for making a poor choice for their baby. It's a doctors job to help you make the healthiest and most informed decision so when they find out that you aren't making the best decision, of course they are going to say something.

    If for some reason I had to formula feed I would admit it's not the best choice for my child, not demand special treatment because of it.

    Sorry for ranting, breastfeeding is a hot subject for me.


    Woah.  Way to attack people there. Women who don't breastfeed are lazy? 98% of the excuses mothers make to not breastfeed "aren't very good."  Those are some pretty strong and unsubstantiated facts right there. 

    Mommy shaming bullshit. 


    Agreed! This is bullshit! Not that we will be on WIC, but I still feel like people will judge me for not breastfeeding and that really sucks. I for one really hope I can breastfeed, but unfortunately I had to have several lumps removed from my breasts before I got pregnant. They told me that due to where some of the incisions are and some of the stuff they cut out that I may not be able to. So in order for me to be healthy I had to chance not being able to breastfeed!
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    We cloth diaper. Its not hard and we have no problem with daycare. We use biodegradable liners so when DS poops that gets dumped in the compost at home and the trash at daycare or if we are out.

    I really hope that is not compost you use on a garden that grows anything you consume. Feces in compost is not recommended.

    We cd and our old daycare would just put it in the wetbag as is and I cleaned then out when we got home. Changing childcare this time around, so hopefully I can get the new place to do the same.
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    We cloth diaper. Its not hard and we have no problem with daycare. We use biodegradable liners so when DS poops that gets dumped in the compost at home and the trash at daycare or if we are out.

    I really hope that is not compost you use on a garden that grows anything you consume. Feces in compost is not recommended.

    We cd and our old daycare would just put it in the wetbag as is and I cleaned then out when we got home. Changing childcare this time around, so hopefully I can get the new place to do the same.
    No we don't use it to grow any food. My parents use it for grass fertilizer. They have like 10 acres of land which is about half yard half woods.. We don't even have a yard right now. We just have the compost to help my parents out.

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    Shit got real in UO Thursday today. I said I hate little dogs and no one flinched, but mention BF vs FF and watch out!! ::stands back and grabs popcorn:: Return to the previous conversation.
    Meh, as someone who has owned a lot of different breeds of dogs in varying sizes in my lifetime (toy poodle, papillon, cocker spaniel, springer spaniel, lab, english setter, german shorthair pointer, german shepherd, sheltie, collie, dachshund, mutt, and I'm probably forgetting a few), I honestly roll my eyes and typically ignore it when people say they don't like dogs based on size, to me that just says they haven't worked with many dogs and/or have only been around untrained small dogs. Temperament/personality traits are based on breed, not size. There are small dogs that act like "big dogs", and big dogs that act like "small dogs". There are breeds in all sizes I wouldn't mind owning in the future, and breeds in all sizes I have zero desire to ever own.
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    I hate when people do pregnancy announcements on holidays or big celebrated days on Facebook.

    I think it comes from being a loss momma, holidays and special days are awful. There's enough sadness/envy to deal with day to day but these days are x1million worse. Add in all the announcements = full on ugly cry and huge meltdowns.

    That being said, I don't judge people for doing it, I just wish people weren't so cliche by doing these things.

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