July 2013 Moms

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  • Well I didn't realize the joke UO was the real one :( now I've got to catch up on both, after I get back from grocery shopping!
  • Gasp!

    Mine is I really don't like xmas. I dislike everything about it. I had to help my mom put up her tree yesterday and I would rather poke my eyes out. The whole thing is dumb.

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  • Lelo2006Lelo2006 member
    edited December 2013


    hplusb said:

    My first UO ever: I think the rash of people changing their bump names is silly.

    I don't understand it either. Even if you change your screenname, all the comments you left under your other name will still come up as connected to you so you're out of luck if you think changing your name will make the old stuff disappear.

    I actually had the bump change my screenname. My maiden name is super unique (I have never met someone with the same last name) and I felt really uncomfortable with it. So all my shiz is now under my new name! If you search my old sn, nothing comes up :)@lizabethann06
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  • @Rmnam1 & @chiboo9

    I just cracked up! My co-workers are staring at me like I'm crazy...
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  • With the whole college loan thing-
    I totally agree with @Meimsx. But I also truly feel that the price of college is super inflated and the push for all things college is wrong. Our youth are told way to much that college = success. And that's one of the reasons they charge so much.
    At least this was when I was in high school, many moons ago....


  • Mine is I really don't like xmas. I dislike everything about it. I had to help my mom put up her tree yesterday and I would rather poke my eyes out. The whole thing is dumb.

    Me too. I might like it more when DD is older but right now I'm not into it. 

    Eating healthier foods isn't more expensive. It costs more per calorie but not more per serving. It requires more time to prepare meals but saying its the cost thats preventing you from making any  healthier choices annoys me. 



    How do you figure? I could go to McDonald's and get a Big Mac, French fries and a drink for $5-6 or I can get a salad there for $7-8 with no drink.
  • I think instead of saying they can't take loans out to be those things, someone should seriously sit down with them and tell them what it would take to pay it back v what their acutal annual income would be.  You know... like be honest about it.

    I remember signing up for school and being told that I'd only have loan payments of $50 bucks and that they gov't will take what you can afford blah blah blah... at 18-22 that sounds great... now I have a degree in Accounting and Management and an MBA in international business... and my student loan payments are $500/mo add my DH's $282/mo -- and we're talking more than we pay for our mortgage on our house.

    A lot of lies are perpetrated to get young naive adults to sign up for those student loans, and it would be nice if someone would tell the truth. -- FYI... yes I know I should've read the fine print, and It's on me.  I owe that money not anyone else and I will pay it back.  I'm not saying I shouldn't have to pay it back, I'm saying that someone should have clearly outlined what we'd be up against.  Too many puppies and rainbows in the college recruiting IMO>

    I just spit out my water, because my student loan payment is $675/mo (less than yours but barely) but there's no way you can get a mortgage for that here in Los Angeles. Ugh ugh ugh. HCOL sucks.

    yeah, I agree... our payment is like 950/mo with taxes and insurance but no the actual mortgage is 650.  FYI... I have no space 1100 sq ft... and I want to move... and yes HCOL sucks... move to central ohio (away from the cities although even the cities are cheap compared to where you are.)

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  • I think instead of saying they can't take loans out to be those things, someone should seriously sit down with them and tell them what it would take to pay it back v what their acutal annual income would be.  You know... like be honest about it.

    I remember signing up for school and being told that I'd only have loan payments of $50 bucks and that they gov't will take what you can afford blah blah blah... at 18-22 that sounds great... now I have a degree in Accounting and Management and an MBA in international business... and my student loan payments are $500/mo add my DH's $282/mo -- and we're talking more than we pay for our mortgage on our house.

    A lot of lies are perpetrated to get young naive adults to sign up for those student loans, and it would be nice if someone would tell the truth. -- FYI... yes I know I should've read the fine print, and It's on me.  I owe that money not anyone else and I will pay it back.  I'm not saying I shouldn't have to pay it back, I'm saying that someone should have clearly outlined what we'd be up against.  Too many puppies and rainbows in the college recruiting IMO>

    I get what you're saying and you acknowledge this to an extent but really at 18 you're not too young or too naive to understand how a loan works. And if you don't know you should ask before signing. Parents, guidance counselors , bank officers can all explain it but you have to seek it out.

  • I think it's sad that not everyone has the choice to eat healthier. I mean I know you "choose" what to eat but it definitely is going to be more expensive for @citrusfamily and @mermomo5 and @valstulas to feed their family very healthy lean and green food than it would to say make 3 boxes of hamburger helper (not saying that's all you all eat, or that you don't eat heathy...I'm just using your larger families as an example, know what I mean?).

    I do think it's annoying when people say it's more expensive because obviously it is but just because it more expensive doesn't mean it's not feasible. Cut something else out on a monthly basis to make eating healthy a more realistic goal within your household. 
  • I'm with @mamasighs on teachers pay. I know several teachers that make 90k teaching elementary school for 10 months per year(with masters degrees). Granted this pay is in an affluent tri-state area school district where the cost of living is also very high but 90k ain't too shabby. I will say though that I think teaching is one of the hardest and most important jobs out there so in that sense they are underpaid.
  • Rmnam1 said:
    I think people don't take enough responsibility for their life choices. If you take out 200,000 dollars of student loans for an interpretive dance degree and then get upset that you can't pay your loans back you are being foolish. You can easily see how much money you can expect to make with a career choice and make an educated decision whether you still want to pursue that career. If you still do, awesome for you. But don't cry that your debt is insurmountable. I side-eye people like that just like the people that get a mortgage for a 300,000 house while working part time/minimum wage and then default on the loan because they couldn't afford it. No shit. The job of these companies is to get you to spend more money, your job is to know how much you can realistically afford to spend and not spend above that. Everyone deserves an education and a place to live, but choosing the options that bankrupt you is your own fault.

    Can I say I completely agree with you on this.  Completely.  I just wish there was more education going on for folks to make better decisions. 

    I own what I did (not going bankrupt by any means) and I looked into what an accounting degree gets you... or got you in 2002... way more than it gets you now, but it was so puppies and rainbows...oh incomes will continue to grow, blah blah blah, you'll be fine. I can distinctly remember telling my parents I didn't want to take out any student loans and I'd just go to the branch.  They flipped shit and said "on no, you're going, and it won't be that bad blah blah blah."

    I just feel like more pre college education on good career choices and payment options and all that happy horse shit should happen in HS or during admissions counciling.

    I'm blaming no one, believe me I've argued that before, it is no ones fault but my own, I just wish there had been more real education on it.  You have to take responsibility for your own decisions and live with them.  That is what it is.  I'm just saying I'll educate my kids better.


     

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  • valstulas said:
    More than 1 UO thread is too much to keep up with.

    I haven't even ventured down there yet :P
  • Clyde013 said:

    I think instead of saying they can't take loans out to be those things, someone should seriously sit down with them and tell them what it would take to pay it back v what their acutal annual income would be.  You know... like be honest about it.

    I remember signing up for school and being told that I'd only have loan payments of $50 bucks and that they gov't will take what you can afford blah blah blah... at 18-22 that sounds great... now I have a degree in Accounting and Management and an MBA in international business... and my student loan payments are $500/mo add my DH's $282/mo -- and we're talking more than we pay for our mortgage on our house.

    A lot of lies are perpetrated to get young naive adults to sign up for those student loans, and it would be nice if someone would tell the truth. -- FYI... yes I know I should've read the fine print, and It's on me.  I owe that money not anyone else and I will pay it back.  I'm not saying I shouldn't have to pay it back, I'm saying that someone should have clearly outlined what we'd be up against.  Too many puppies and rainbows in the college recruiting IMO>

    I get what you're saying and you acknowledge this to an extent but really at 18 you're not too young or too naive to understand how a loan works. And if you don't know you should ask before signing. Parents, guidance counselors , bank officers can all explain it but you have to seek it out.


    It's so funny that you say that because I argued this point months ago and I agree with it.  I just wish I had been more educated.  I'm not saying it's anyones fault but mine, I just think at 18 (for me) I was not up to snuff ont his shit and was listening to my HS GC tell me how it wouldn't be bad his kids had them, you will be able to afford it, do you see what accountants make, I wouldn't worry about it.  

    Mine are gov't loans and when I signed for them (the day I showed up at school) I asked questions but the people answering them were... students.  so they didn't really know.  My parents didn't go to college, so they had no idea, my grandparents went but grandpa had a full ride and grandma's family was well off, So... no experiance on my side. 

    I did ask the questions see, that's just it... I was fed some BS.  Should I have done more research on my own?  Sure, but I trusted these people. 

    Again, this is on me, and my kids will know the questions to ask, the answers to expect, and how to make decisons based on real numbers not made up numbers of "oh the government will take $50 bucks, they won't refuse your payment, you can make it whatever." - I should have known better.

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  • I think it's frustrating that people aren't allowed to talk about religion/politics seemingly anywhere. Not at bars, at work, out in public at all. DH isn't really into politics so I can't talk to him that much about it. I mean I understand the reasoning behind it because people get offended and/or very opinionated and things can get heated. But I have no where to really talk things out with people. My friends aren't really into it either. Only one is but he moved to NoVa. Sigh oh well.
  • Yea I understand. I personally think it's parent's/guardian's responsibility to teach their children to be fiscally responsible. But given this "opinion" I understand there are a million different circumstances and everyone is not surrounded by rainbows. This is just the ideal.


    Clyde013 said:

    I think instead of saying they can't take loans out to be those things, someone should seriously sit down with them and tell them what it would take to pay it back v what their acutal annual income would be.  You know... like be honest about it.

    I remember signing up for school and being told that I'd only have loan payments of $50 bucks and that they gov't will take what you can afford blah blah blah... at 18-22 that sounds great... now I have a degree in Accounting and Management and an MBA in international business... and my student loan payments are $500/mo add my DH's $282/mo -- and we're talking more than we pay for our mortgage on our house.

    A lot of lies are perpetrated to get young naive adults to sign up for those student loans, and it would be nice if someone would tell the truth. -- FYI... yes I know I should've read the fine print, and It's on me.  I owe that money not anyone else and I will pay it back.  I'm not saying I shouldn't have to pay it back, I'm saying that someone should have clearly outlined what we'd be up against.  Too many puppies and rainbows in the college recruiting IMO>

    I get what you're saying and you acknowledge this to an extent but really at 18 you're not too young or too naive to understand how a loan works. And if you don't know you should ask before signing. Parents, guidance counselors , bank officers can all explain it but you have to seek it out.





    It's so funny that you say that because I argued this point months ago and I agree with it.  I just wish I had been more educated.  I'm not saying it's anyones fault but mine, I just think at 18 (for me) I was not up to snuff ont his shit and was listening to my HS GC tell me how it wouldn't be bad his kids had them, you will be able to afford it, do you see what accountants make, I wouldn't worry about it.  

    Mine are gov't loans and when I signed for them (the day I showed up at school) I asked questions but the people answering them were... students.  so they didn't really know.  My parents didn't go to college, so they had no idea, my grandparents went but grandpa had a full ride and grandma's family was well off, So... no experiance on my side. 

    I did ask the questions see, that's just it... I was fed some BS.  Should I have done more research on my own?  Sure, but I trusted these people. 

    Again, this is on me, and my kids will know the questions to ask, the answers to expect, and how to make decisons based on real numbers not made up numbers of "oh the government will take $50 bucks, they won't refuse your payment, you can make it whatever." - I should have known better.

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  • Clyde013Clyde013 member
    edited December 2013

    Hiding behind the word "opinion" is bogus. If your opinion isn't based in fact I don't have to take it seriously or leave you alone just because it's your opinion. If your opinion is racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. that's the same deal.
    Example 1:
    "I think vaccines cause autism."
    "That's not legitimate."
    "Well, it's just my opinion."
    "Well it's an illogical opinion."
    Example 2:
    "I think gay people are going to hell."
    "That's homophobic."
    "Well it's just my opinion."
    "Well you are an asshat. Goodbye."

    People are quick to say "everyone is allowed their own opinion" but you gotta remember that not all opinions are equally valid. It's like people use the word opinion as a defense and suddenly you aren't allowed to argue with them even though they've told you something totally absurd, like that a race of space aliens has taken over most of Congress.

    I don't know. With the Internet, every jackass can find support for their stoopid opinion. You may not agree with it but Id bet money that there is some kind of support for those opinions.

    Btw: it's just my opinion :-p
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