FFFC!

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Ktrue85 said:

MrsP821 said:

I have another. H made the move to the guest bedroom because of my crazy amount of pillows I sleep with now and I actually love sleeping by myself. It was a bit of an adjustment at first, but now I'm used to it. He doesn't wake me up in the middle of the night due to snoring and I can completely take over our king size bed. I realize this is only temporary until things get back to normal, but for now, I'm not complaining.

My goodness, woman, how many pillows do you have in there?!

I sleep with about 5 pillows. I guess I throw my pillows in the middle of the night to fluff them up and would always hit H with them. I had no idea I was doing that until he mentioned it.

See it's the opposite in our bed, and it's only a Queen. H is always hitting me with a pillow, an elbow, or a leg. I sleep very lightly now, so I've often wondered if this has gone on before I was pregnant or not. I need to get a damn snoggle so I can build a proper barrier.

nofcksgiven · August 2013

When I hear people talk about the abuse of government benefits, how easy it is to get an education or higher training, and how people just need to work a little harder, it makes my head explode.
The thought that everyone has access to the same thing, no matter what they come from, is offensive to me. I'm from one of the poorest and most dangerous cities in the country. I've worked with at risk and illiterate teenagers. It's ABSURD to think they will have the same opportunities I did.
I side eye anyone who uses this argument. I can never decide if they're just uneducated about how life works or if they really think everything is so black and white. Either way, it makes me sick.

Marchmellow2 · August 2013

Cashingn2 said:
@marchmellow2,
You could call him to find out. How would you feel if he did that to you?

He does! I added it to both phones. It's not to be untrusting (well at first it was) it's just a feature we know we have now. We don't use it that much anymore. And now we keep it because if we ever lose our phones it's easy to find and erase all data from the phone.

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

@marchmellow2 that is crazy!!! LOL!!

My other FFFC is that Chris Brown is on the Today Show and he is disgusting. His songs are fun, but he looks like a dirty, crack headed serial killer. Actually, I probably wouldn't get flamed for that anyway.

blainethetrain · August 2013

Meggie0421 said:
When I hear people talk about the abuse of government benefits, how easy it is to get an education or higher training, and how people just need to work a little harder, it makes my head explode.
The thought that everyone has access to the same thing, no matter what they come from, is offensive to me. I'm from one of the poorest and most dangerous cities in the country. I've worked with at risk and illiterate teenagers. It's ABSURD to think they will have the same opportunities I did.
I side eye anyone who uses this argument. I can never decide if they're just uneducated about how life works or if they really think everything is so black and white. Either way, it makes me sick.

Insert standing ovation GIF.

nicholssquared · August 2013

JaxxM said:

My FFFC is that i think everyone should be able to have the joy of a child in their lives regardless of their job situation. I dont think just because you work fastfood or have a dead end job you shouldnt be able to have a child/baby.

Ya i decided to wait until i was stable and have a child later in life... But what is gonna make me a better mom then someone who works at taco bell?

Agreed. In my opinion, making blanket statements about who should or shouldn't be able to have a family is just a slippery slope. If we actually started enforcing stuff like this (hypothetical), who knows what the "standard" would end up being for children? Pretty soon, it could be that any one of us doesn't qualify to have a family anymore. I want to protect my right, and my children's right, to have a family if they want to - the only way to do this is to protect everyone's right to have a family.

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

Nobody has to agree or disagree with any of our FFFC posts!

The joys of posting flame free

lollipoppoop · August 2013

leahraewku said:

My confession is that while everyone else was talking about the Kardashian placenta mess, I was more upset about them fat shaming Rob. I think it's complete shit to make anyone feel bad about their bodies
Especially when Kim and Khloe get harassed by the press for the same thing. They should know better. I didn't see the episode, but I've seen others where those two are the ring leaders in the fat shaming game.

I agree about the fat shaming but I think the reason they said something was because (and this is completely my opinion as I don't know them in person) they are tired of him complaining and him not going on that trip when he said he was going to because he felt fat yet he is eating bags of candy probably irks them. Who the heck knows lol

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

Cashingn2 said:

jenniferbromley said:
Nobody has to agree or disagree with any of our FFFC posts!

The joys of posting flame free
It's never really flame free lol.

Lol, I see that.

MissyC979 · August 2013

Here's another one probably flameful one: I have an irrational fear of being poor.

With baby #2 coming, our daycare expenses will be about 2.5 times higher than they are now and I'm freaking out. The daycare is almost as high as our mortgage. I knew things would be tight, but actually putting it all down on paper made me cry last night. We'll be able to get by after we cut some expenses, but I'm freaking out about not having much of a buffer in our accounts.

Anyway, I think I'm probably just being overly emotional now. I know we can make it work and people get by on a lot less, but it has me really stressed. It just makes me feel like I don't have as much control over my life as I'd like to have.

MissyC979 · August 2013

This double posted. Oops.

lollipoppoop · August 2013

MrsP821 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.

If my SO is doing this to me I would be beyond pissed.

Marchmellow2 · August 2013

MrsP821 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.

At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.

74dragonfly · August 2013

JaxxM said:
My FFFC is that i think everyone should be able to have the joy of a child in their lives regardless of their job situation. I dont think just because you work fastfood or have a dead end job you shouldnt be able to have a child/baby.

Ya i decided to wait until i was stable and have a child later in life... But what is gonna make me a better mom then someone who works at taco bell?

My concern is if you can't feed your child and provide housing which are basic needs. You don't need to be rich to have kids but to have a kid you can't afford to feed is wrong.

insertclevername · August 2013

Risalyn222 said:

On the topic of fast food. We drove by Burger King yesterday and there was a sign saying we now accept EBT cards ( food stamps). I think if you are getting food money from the government you should have to buy your food from the grocery store. Going out to eat is a "treat" and if you can't afford to go out you should be cooking your family well balanced meals at home.

This was addressed yesterday. EBT cards are not just for SNAP benefits they also have TANF benefits on them. So they are not using their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits to buy food fast food, they are using their cash benefits to buy it. Can we not get into the "No skittles/fast food/etc. for poor people" debate today? I thought April 14 beat that horse pretty good yesterday.

ScarlettV · August 2013

Lol...I love how many comments this thread has already. I haven't read them yet, maybe a juicy topic is at hand?

nicholssquared · August 2013

I have a FFFC! I love Supergirl and I hope she never leaves. I'm not on the bump to learn more about pregnancy, I'm pretty researched on the topic. I'm mainly on the bump for entertainment. Sometimes that means sharing advice with people. Sometimes that means getting into a well-spirited (well, sometimes) off-topic debate. But I get the most entertainment from people like SG. I will admit that sometimes I can be a ravenous, angry (and smart-ass) troll, and I love it.

But if she does leave, there's always A14.

kittyh8r · August 2013

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I guess my first confession is that I don't think this is bad. Depending on how their relationship works, it could be completely harmless. If my H and I had iPhones, we would probably do the same thing. Mine would always be at home and H would get bored looking at it, but my H travels all over during a work day, it would be nice to know exactly how far away he is. He can't answer his phone while he is working(carpenter), so at 4pm, if I need to know when to start dinner, I could find where he is and wait until he heads home....or take a nap. (:

If this app would be a bad thing for your marriage, fine, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing for theirs.

My second confession is that the last two days my daughter(18 months) and I have gone to Kwik Trip to grab and ice cream sandwich and a muffin, drive to a small lake in town, and eat them in the car. Emma loves it, I pull her into the front seat with me and we share the treats. It's about 800 calories together though...but so yummy.

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.
At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.

But I still think he should be responsible for calling you to give you the heads up. If he doesn't call, no dinner for him, and that's not your fault.

Marchmellow2 · August 2013

MrsP821 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.

At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.

Isn't it much easier to pick up the phone and ask him where he's at instead of logging onto a computer to see what mile marker he's at?

iPhone app not computer. No he doesn't answer in his way home, he likes to surprise me. He enjoys scaring the shit out of me from behind and tackling me with tickles after I've already had a heart attack. He never answers on his way home! So annoying!

mavgirl_73 · August 2013

I'm sick of the mommy wars. Kids will grow up just fine with necessities of life, with all the advantages this world had to offer and everything in between. It's easy to judge other parents and their choices, but trust me at some point we will all look back at an event with our children and be horrified that we too were once so judgey.

Marchmellow2 · August 2013

Ktrue85 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

MrsP821 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.
At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.

But I still think he should be responsible for calling you to give you the heads up. If he doesn't call, no dinner for him, and that's not your fault.

You are correct!! He should let me know!!!

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

KKDRAGONFLY said:

JaxxM said:
My FFFC is that i think everyone should be able to have the joy of a child in their lives regardless of their job situation. I dont think just because you work fastfood or have a dead end job you shouldnt be able to have a child/baby.

Ya i decided to wait until i was stable and have a child later in life... But what is gonna make me a better mom then someone who works at taco bell?
My concern is if you can't feed your child and provide housing which are basic needs. You don't need to be rich to have kids but to have a kid you can't afford to feed is wrong.

Exactly!!

KFED103 · August 2013

nicholssquared said:
I have a FFFC! I love Supergirl and I hope she never leaves. I'm not on the bump to learn more about pregnancy, I'm pretty researched on the topic. I'm mainly on the bump for entertainment. Sometimes that means sharing advice with people. Sometimes that means getting into a well-spirited (well, sometimes) off-topic debate. But I get the most entertainment from people like SG. I will admit that sometimes I can be a ravenous, angry (and smart-ass) troll, and I love it.

But if she does leave, there's always A14.

I will admit I have the same love/hate thing going on.

Also, GPS-ing your spouse is creepy. But I probably would do it if I had a teenager.

Marchmellow2 · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

jenniferbromley said:
@marchmellow2 that is crazy!!! LOL!!

My other FFFC is that Chris Brown is on the Today Show and he is disgusting. His songs are fun, but he looks like a dirty, crack headed serial killer. Actually, I probably wouldn't get flamed for that anyway.
No flames here. If he's on I change the channel or radio station. Is that going to affect his career? Probably not, but I just can't stand looking at/listening to him.

My FFFC
Marchmellow2 said:

MrsP821 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.
At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.

Isn't it much easier to pick up the phone and ask him where he's at instead of logging onto a computer to see what mile marker he's at?

iPhone app not computer. No he doesn't answer in his way home, he likes to surprise me. He enjoys scaring the shit out of me from behind and tackling me with tickles after I've already had a heart attack. He never answers on his way home! So annoying!

Haha. Does he know that you're never actually surprised?

Yes!! Now he does! Well sometimes I'm still surprised cause I rarely use the app. Sometimes he just decides to come home with no warning and sneaks in quietly. I'm also deaf in one ear so you can imagine how much more scared I get. I'm alone 24/7. Just me and my cats. I've been with him for 9 years and he still scares the shit out of me. He thinks it's so funny! I do not!! Grrrr. But to answer your question, when I track him I make loud noises on his phone to let him know, I know he's coming so don't try to scare me!

nicholssquared · August 2013

jenniferbromley said:

My FFFC is that i think everyone should be able to have the joy of a child in their lives regardless of their job situation. I dont think just because you work fastfood or have a dead end job you shouldnt be able to have a child/baby.

Ya i decided to wait until i was stable and have a child later in life... But what is gonna make me a better mom then someone who works at taco bell?
My concern is if you can't feed your child and provide housing which are basic needs. You don't need to be rich to have kids but to have a kid you can't afford to feed is wrong.
Exactly!!

To follow up, what would you propose we do in regard to preventing poor people from having children? Force sterilizations? BC doesn't work all of the time and you can't regulate someone keeping up with it if they don't want to. You'd have to sterilize them. Doesn't that violate a lot of their human rights? Do poor people have human rights to you? Who's paying for the sterilizations? And, again, how do we determine who'd qualified to have children and who's not? It may be that we as a country decide one day that we're too overpopulated, so only the rich can have children, and since we've already upheld the precedent, it'd be NBD. Then you and I wouldn't be having children either. And before you say that's crazy, look at China.

From a practical standpoint, that opinion just isn't defensible. It'd be great if people who couldn't provide the basic necessities for their children would avoid pregnancy, but you can't force that one them in any way. And if you think we should, then China's still over there...

teacupkat · August 2013

Mine might open a can of worms but whateves. I think I may go against my OB's recommendation of not drinking wine next weekend at a wedding and have some sips of DH's wine. I have myself so worked up over this wedding for personal reasons, I feel like the only way I'm going to make it through is by having some wine. The thing is, I'm already guilt ridden even before I have done anything. Why couldn't she have just said one glass was okay? Meanie.

nofcksgiven · August 2013

KFED103 said:

nicholssquared said:
I have a FFFC! I love Supergirl and I hope she never leaves. I'm not on the bump to learn more about pregnancy, I'm pretty researched on the topic. I'm mainly on the bump for entertainment. Sometimes that means sharing advice with people. Sometimes that means getting into a well-spirited (well, sometimes) off-topic debate. But I get the most entertainment from people like SG. I will admit that sometimes I can be a ravenous, angry (and smart-ass) troll, and I love it.

But if she does leave, there's always A14.
I will admit I have the same love/hate thing going on.

Also, GPS-ing your spouse is creepy. But I probably would do it if I had a teenager.

I'll GPS the shit outta my teenager.
I'm just grateful that technology wasn't available during my teen years.

nicholssquared · August 2013

teacupkat said:

Mine might open a can of worms but whateves. I think I may go against my OB's recommendation of not drinking wine next weekend at a wedding and have some sips of DH's wine. I have myself so worked up over this wedding for personal reasons, I feel like the only way I'm going to make it through is by having some wine. The thing is, I'm already guilt ridden even before I have done anything. Why couldn't she have just said one glass was okay? Meanie.

A glass is 100% safe. You're not going to harm your baby if you truly have one glass. I promise.

That said, I would caution you against drinking because you're stressed, but I don't think one glass is going to do anything for your stress.

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Okay, here's another confession.

I DVR the following shows:

19 Kids and Counting
Sister Wives
Amish Mafia
Breaking Amish: LA
Extreme Couponing
My Strange Addiction
The Little Couple

So, basically, I have an addiction to bad TLC realty shows.

ETA: Sister Wives

Mrbatesisinnocent · August 2013

1st) this morning I went to make a bowl of cereal and magically ended up with a large bowl of mint chip ice cream. No clue how that happened...

2nd) DH and I have an app where we can track eachother and it's not a big deal. We got it at first because DH is horrible with directions so he can look me up and hit directions to Mrbatesisinnocent and he has Siri tell him where to find me. It's eliminated the "where u at" texts and "how muh longer" comments. It's worked great for us, but we also aren't trying to catch eachother doing anything...some of our friends use it too and we all share that info for the same reason. Directions are super convienient this way. None of us have anything to hide so why do we care?

::shrugs::

kittyh8r · August 2013

SweetSouthernMomma08 said:

My other FFFC - I love staring at @emmabobemma 's siggy. And I don't think I'll ever be able to stop..........Emma is just addictingly/infectuously happy and she makes me smile!

HA! Try being her mom. I can be so mad about something, look over at her as a smile emerges on her face, and I cannot help but smile. The kid has a gift. In this particular picture, I taught her to say "cheeeeese" when she sees a camera.

lollipoppoop · August 2013

Marchmellow2 said:

Marchmellow2 said:

My confession: I GPS track my DH! I know it sounds awful but let me explain! Well it started like 2 years ago when he started working out of town. A friend of mine said she did it with her H and to just call AT&T and they would explain. I called and they told me as long as we both have iPhones, which we did, to just install an app call "Find iphone" and you simply log in and you can see exactly where the phone is. The lady from AT&T even said she does it with her H. So yea that's why I do it. And I rarely use it! I only use it to see if he's on his way home so I can be ready. It's an awesome feature and he knows I do it.

I don't understand this. You track your H's moves so you can be ready for when he comes home? There has to be more to this story because that is not a good enough reason to GPS your H. I have never considered doing this. Ever.
At first it was because I didn't trust him being away for so long. Now it's only there to find our phones if they're lost or see when he's almost home. He works 7 hours away and he tells me what day he's coming. Like last night, I woulda been asleep with no dinner on the table if I didn't use the app to see if he was close.
But I still think he should be responsible for calling you to give you the heads up. If he doesn't call, no dinner for him, and that's not your fault.
You are correct!! He should let me know!!!

If he doesn't call before hand then he doesn't get dinner on the table. My fiance works out of town and likes to surprise me to but he knows to get his own dinner on the way home lol

cherylnicole · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

Ktrue85 said:

Okay, here's another confession.

I DVR the following shows:

19 Kids and Counting
Sister Wives
Amish Mafia
Breaking Amish: LA
Extreme Couponing
My Strange Addiction
The Little Couple

So, basically, I have an addiction to bad TLC realty shows.

ETA: Sister Wives

I have a love/hate relationship with sister wives. I watch the show just to bitch about it the whole time.

My FFFC: I've known/been with my husband for 11 years and married for 2 and 1/2. He "accidentally farted in front of me yesterday when we were outside with the dog (I guess he thought it would be quiet) and we both about died of laughter. I have never farted in front of him.

I think there are a few women on here that never have either. I think that's crazy! To each his own, but I can't imagine that! When I gave birth to DS i pooped on the table a little lol so i've definitely farted in front of him.

Actually, we're really gross and try to "out stink" one another. He's always scared when I'm pregnant since I always win then. I know, we're disgusting and immature.

KFED103 · August 2013

SweetSouthernMomma08 said:

KFED103 said:

Also, GPS-ing your spouse is creepy. But I probably would do it if I had a teenager.

I'll go ahead and admit, I think it is more than a possibility that I might do this...Even if my child is levelheaded and mature. I want to know when and where they are. Call me obsessive...But, he is my responsibility as long as he lives in my house...And I'm going to know what he is doing/where he is.

Granted I do not have older children and maybe I've just watched too much Dr. Phil, but even if you think your teen is level head and mature, it doesn't mean shit. They are still kids and should not be trusted as an adult or treated as such. I'm not saying I plan on running a military camp, but I don't think I will ever fully "trust" my teenager.

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

I'm not going to argue with anyone on this thread. Nor defend my opinion. So I just want to tell you ladies to have a nice day!! And smile!

74dragonfly · August 2013

nicholssquared said:
I
jenniferbromley said:

KKDRAGONFLY said:

JaxxM said:
My FFFC is that i think everyone should be able to have the joy of a child in their lives regardless of their job situation. I dont think just because you work fastfood or have a dead end job you shouldnt be able to have a child/baby.

Ya i decided to wait until i was stable and have a child later in life... But what is gonna make me a better mom then someone who works at taco bell?
My concern is if you can't feed your child and provide housing which are basic needs. You don't need to be rich to have kids but to have a kid you can't afford to feed is wrong.

Exactly!!

To follow up, what would you propose we do in regard to preventing poor people from having children? Force sterilizations? BC doesn't work all of the time and you can't regulate someone keeping up with it if they don't want to. You'd have to sterilize them. Doesn't that violate a lot of their human rights? Do poor people have human rights to you? Who's paying for the sterilizations? And, again, how do we determine who'd qualified to have children and who's not? It may be that we as a country decide one day that we're too overpopulated, so only the rich can have children, and since we've already upheld the precedent, it'd be NBD. Then you and I wouldn't be having children either. And before you say that's crazy, look at China.

From a practical standpoint, that opinion just isn't defensible. It'd be great if people who couldn't provide the basic necessities for their children would avoid pregnancy, but you can't force that one them in any way. And if you think we should, then China's still over there...

I never said sterilize nor would I. I just think it is highly irresponsible to have a baby you can't feed.

amberpro · August 2013

Cashingn2 said:

amberpro said:
If people post long a long reply with no paragraphs (well, sometimes even with paragraphs), I skim through or scroll past. Some just get so tedious to read. Brevity is the key to effective communication, people. Brevity and organization.

I will also admit that I often have to go back and reread if the thread gets good, though.
You must be talking about me lol. I never use paragraphs on mobile

No. I don't think you get too long winded

. Some posters just seem to "talk" a lot. I can't think of a specific person off hand.

notkateanymore · August 2013

jenniferbromley said:

Nobody has to agree or disagree with any of our FFFC posts! The joys of posting flame free

You don't really think it's flame free do you? You've been around long enough to know better.

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