Another dog owner in desperate need of help!

dragonfly711 · August 2013

TRS48 said:

@hlmlvt thanks for the info! I guess we got lucky bc I love our vet at Banfield. If he left I'd follow him-- he seems to be much better than the other vets we have seen there, when he's not in. On a related note-- are you a vet/vet tech? What do you think about dental cleanings? I hate how they have to go under for it so I've been avoiding it even though my plans include it. Is there anyway around the anesthesia? @janda426 glad to hear you got some answers about your pup! I will keep him in my prayers!

@TRS48

hello there, glad you like your vet because I have heard horror stories. On to dentals YES I believe in them big time, I used to do all the dentals were I was, loved doing them ( yeah vet tech was full time but now part time and elementary teacher the rest of the year.) have been a tech for 16 yrs this month!!!

Dental disease is serious in animals just like it is in people. Brushing teeth is so important in dogs and cats. They can get gingivitis just like people and pockets in their teeth. My jack russell a few years ago had a dental in January and again in Dec because he just has bad teeth. Some animals might need a dental yearly while other can go years without one.

Anesthesia is safe, we would always do blood work on the older animals 8 and over that was mandatory if they were younger it was highly recommended but owners decision. That would check liver and kidney issues. Just like if we were going under anesthesia we would get blood work done.

At my vet we always put IV catheters in and gave the animals fluids while they were under, blood pressure, temperature, EKG was also monitored during the procedure.

You would be surprised how many animals might have a bad tooth and you have no idea. If you want to chat any more about it feel free to PM me, I would be happy to chat with you about it. I loved dentistry in animals that was my thing!!! I could ramble on but dont think anyone else wants to hear about it. LOL

TRS48 · August 2013

Thanks ladies. @hlmlvt I really appreciate your response! I've been nervous to put my pups under so I've been avoiding the dental

have you ever had a dog not wake up from anesthesia? I know I watch too many movies... I just worry!

WillCMyInk · August 2013

@Janda426 I'm glad to hear that you have a plan of attack. I hope your pup is 100% soon!

dragonfly711 · August 2013

TRS48 said:

Thanks ladies. @hlmlvt I really appreciate your response! I've been nervous to put my pups under so I've been avoiding the dental have you ever had a dog not wake up from anesthesia? I know I watch too many movies... I just worry!

I have been a tech for 16 yrs this month, I can say that I have only had 1-2 animals that have had issues and that was not due to the anesthesia. Blood work should be done before hand. I have my cat done every year and my dog had a dental done twice in one year. He would be safer to have a dental than to leave his teeth the way they are and have dental disease, that will put bacteria into the blood stream and he can have liver, kidney or heart issues later on due to the dental disease. We had a dog that had a heart murmur and after cleaning the teeth and the owner brushes now, the dog now does not have a heart murmur.

TRS48 · August 2013

@hlmlvt thank you so much!

janda426 · August 2013

Update...

I just don't know what to do. I know I want to cry, first things first. Idk how much more I can handle right now. We are at my in laws because our house is a construction zone right now ($$$$) and its 2:45 am here and H and I were just woken up by the sound of Dakota having diarrhea in her crate. H took her outside, she vomited, came back inside and vomited again. It's getting worse. She just finished both meds she was on that were supposed to fix this.

I can't afford another $200+ vet bill on top of the recent pipe leak in our house. Everything is adding up, H and I are stressed out, I'm afraid for us to even go to work and leave Dakota here with his mom all day and have her get sick and his mom be pissed about it. H already has to take time off to meet with insurance, plumbers and demo people for the pipe.

Also his parents live in deer central and I think she might have caught some fleas, but we are being very hopeful it was chiggers instead. I got 4 bites on me and then we have her a flea bath the next day but didn't see a single flea fall in the bathtub so idk but she's been itching. I don't want to be here. I want to be home and I want my dog to be healthy. She's such a good girl but she's been sick 95% of the time we've had her. Idk what else to do

dragonfly711 · August 2013

jefa621 said:
We just did cleanings for the first time on both of our dogs. Henry is 6 and tucker is 5 and tucker has worse teeth by far. But they also take x-rays and they found that henry had a cracked molar. He's much more of a chewer than tucker which is why his teeth are in better shape for the most part. But now we know to be more careful with the toys they get to chew.

I would not worry about the anesthesia if you have a good vet/clinic. I really think it is worth doing for their health and well-being. Though as much as I love my boys, I just can't brush their teeth for them every day. It's just not gonna happen.

All this. You can have blood work done before the dental. Clean teeth out weigh the risk of the anesthesia big time. Bad teeth or gums can so more harm to the body.
My dog has a grade 3 heart murmur and at some point I need to do another dental on him. Probably after his next ultrasound.

dragonfly711 · August 2013

TRS48 said:
@hlmlvt thank you so much!

No problem. Ask me any questions anytime!!!!

WolFox · August 2013

This happened recently to my Dog and it ended up being Cholitis. They said the poo would go back to normal after two days but it didn't solidify until the day after the antibiotics were finished. :-/ It's so hard to have an unhappy puppy! Good luck!

Milagros315 · August 2013

@janda426 I'm so sorry that she's still sick. I wish I had some helpful advice, but I don't. I know it's really difficult to see your pet sick and be worried that you don't know how or can't afford to make them better. I'll be thinking of you guys

WillCMyInk · August 2013

I'm so sorry you're still having problems with your pup. Did you ever touch base with the rescue you got her from?

At the end of the day there is only so much you can do and you will need to decide what your limit is. You can always apply for CareCredit if you're not willing to give up yet. Just sit down with your H and have that conversation. We had to sit down and decide that we were tapped out the other week.

Peaceb0ne · August 2013

I'm so sorry your dog is still sick. It's awful to see your pet in pain and not be able to do anything about it. Ugh

dragonfly711 · August 2013

janda426 said:
Update...

I just don't know what to do. I know I want to cry, first things first. Idk how much more I can handle right now. We are at my in laws because our house is a construction zone right now ($$$$) and its 2:45 am here and H and I were just woken up by the sound of Dakota having diarrhea in her crate. H took her outside, she vomited, came back inside and vomited again. It's getting worse. She just finished both meds she was on that were supposed to fix this.

I can't afford another $200+ vet bill on top of the recent pipe leak in our house. Everything is adding up, H and I are stressed out, I'm afraid for us to even go to work and leave Dakota here with his mom all day and have her get sick and his mom be pissed about it. H already has to take time off to meet with insurance, plumbers and demo people for the pipe.

Also his parents live in deer central and I think she might have caught some fleas, but we are being very hopeful it was chiggers instead. I got 4 bites on me and then we have her a flea bath the next day but didn't see a single flea fall in the bathtub so idk but she's been itching. I don't want to be here. I want to be home and I want my dog to be healthy. She's such a good girl but she's been sick 95% of the time we've had her. Idk what else to do

Could he have eaten something? Sock something that could cause a blockage. If he is vomiting I would recommend not feeding for a day. Let his system clear out. Than start a bland diet boiled rice and chicken. Small meals throughout the day. If still vomiting after 24 hrs need to go back to the dr. It can be so hard to figure out what is going on. It can be frustrating.

janda426 · August 2013

-She is up to date on her flea and heartworm meds, we use K9 advantix for fleas

-She is still totally herself! For anyone who hasn't read the whole story she was never vomiting, she just started that last night. From what I hear (I'm at work) she hasn't been sick all day.

-We will fast her again today to see if that helps, it helped last time we fasted her

MarcoIslandMommy · August 2013

janda426 said:

-I'll ask about anxiety. I had figured for some post-coming home mood swings being it's a new environment but just wasn't expecting this

-We feed her Pedigree dry food, I am a little overwhelmed with all of this raw food diet/wet vs dry food information. Idk if it's the food disagreeing with her or what but I'll be sure to ask.

These are all great input, thanks so much ladies I appreciate it

I used to work at an all natural pet food store for 4 years. And when my dog (now 5) was a pup he couldn't digest anything and was having a similar issue for about 4-5 months. I too went through a TON of money through testing and xrays. They even put me on the vet prescribed foods, which just made it worse. But when I went to all natural foods, it fixed the problem completely. SO I don't write too much, the best foods I had luck with (and sold the most of) were Canidae and Natural Balance. I had the best luck with Natural Balance, they make a food called Natural Balance L I D. (which is a limited ingredient food) that made the difference for my dog. Canidae chicken and rice formula is also very basic and I sold a lot to customers with the same problems. Maybe you can try those to see if they work/help ? (so you don't have to stress over all the choices)

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

MarcoIslandMommy said:

janda426 said:

-I'll ask about anxiety. I had figured for some post-coming home mood swings being it's a new environment but just wasn't expecting this

-We feed her Pedigree dry food, I am a little overwhelmed with all of this raw food diet/wet vs dry food information. Idk if it's the food disagreeing with her or what but I'll be sure to ask.

These are all great input, thanks so much ladies I appreciate it

I used to work at an all natural pet food store for 4 years. And when my dog (now 5) was a pup he couldn't digest anything and was having a similar issue for about 4-5 months. I too went through a TON of money through testing and xrays. They even put me on the vet prescribed foods, which just made it worse. But when I went to all natural foods, it fixed the problem completely. SO I don't write too much, the best foods I had luck with (and sold the most of) were Canidae and Natural Balance. I had the best luck with Natural Balance, they make a food called Natural Balance L I D. (which is a limited ingredient food) that made the difference for my dog. Canidae chicken and rice formula is also very basic and I sold a lot to customers with the same problems. Maybe you can try those to see if they work/help ? (so you don't have to stress over all the choices)

I second trying natural balance limited ingredient. Pick a protein combo she isn't currently eating. So if shes on chicken switch to a non poultry variety.

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

Bree8485 said:
It sounds like it could be IBD. The dogs we see with that we usually send for a scope to confirm but you could ask your vet if you could try treating for it to see if it helps. Usually they'll do a hypoallergenic food (we use Purina HA or Science Diet Z/D) and usually a steroid and antibiotic (we use prednisone and metronidazol). The food is pretty pricey but we've seen good results with it.

It's important to note; if it is ibd you need to be very strict with her diet. That means no treats or people food. Just her dog food.

Hopefully the vomiting stops but if she continues to vomit she should see the vet for at least an anti nausea injection.

janda426 · August 2013

Thanks so much everyone.. @bree8485 this diarrhea pretty much started when she was put on prednisone for skin allergy so we are staying far away from that. And don't antibiotics cause diarrhea? She is on a probiotic though, so maybe it wouldn't.

She hasn't thrown up since last night and she was chewing a tennis ball yesterday so it's possible she swallowed some and that's what caused it this time. But there's just still so many freaking possibilities.

I think we might take her to a different vet for a second opinion but first I'm gonna try to get some advice over the phone cause I think it's BS that I have to keep paying $50 just to walk through the door because they weren't thorough enough the last time.

Ill ask about IBD. Thanks guys

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

janda426 said:
Thanks so much everyone.. @bree8485 this diarrhea pretty much started when she was put on prednisone for skin allergy so we are staying far away from that. And don't antibiotics cause diarrhea? She is on a probiotic though, so maybe it wouldn't.

She hasn't thrown up since last night and she was chewing a tennis ball yesterday so it's possible she swallowed some and that's what caused it this time. But there's just still so many freaking possibilities.

I think we might take her to a different vet for a second opinion but first I'm gonna try to get some advice over the phone cause I think it's BS that I have to keep paying $50 just to walk through the door because they weren't thorough enough the last time.

Ill ask about IBD. Thanks guys

Prednisone can cause ulcers and GI upset ( vomiting etc) if given on an empty stomach especially. It is great for allergies though.

Antibiotics can cause diarrhea. Probiotics help.

Metronidazole does not cause diarrhea if she's been on that.

I know it's frustrating and that you feel like you should have an answer by now. Veterinary medicine is limited sometimes because of what owners are willing or able to do.

So were they not thorough or did you decline tests? Sometimes an expensive test may give you a definitive answer but you can't financially do it, so the vet is going to do their best to treat the symptoms and use treatment trials to try and fix the problem. This can take time.

If you are not happy with the service or treatment you and your pet get, go find another vet. You will have to pay for a new exam again of course. Just call and have your vet fax records and X-rays to the Vet you pick so they don't have to repeat too much. Not all vets are created equal and it is fine to search around a bit. Remember though, cheaper isn't always better.

janda426 · August 2013

@nicolemackenzie

After we started her on the Prednisone is when we first noticed this. The vet said he thought it was ulcers too and the meds he gave were supposed to definitely get rid of them, he was so confident. Well she just finished those meds and it's back with a vengeance. They didn't offer any other tests so we didn't deny anything they wanted to do, we're so desperate to get her better we were willing to pay up and try all these injections and meds.

She was on metronidazole, I'm pretty sure that's one of the two she just finished.

I just took her out and when she pooped she just whined and dark blood came out

It kills me to see her this way.

The vet is closed now but I'm going to call tomorrow and get some advice and if they just want me to bring her in again I think i might just go to the other vet that was recommended to us.

Also can anyone recommend the best pet insurances for us? I know they won't cover this but if this month-long incident is any indicator of her future health I'd rather us be covered next time.

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

janda426 said:
@nicolemackenzie

After we started her on the Prednisone is when we first noticed this. The vet said he thought it was ulcers too and the meds he gave were supposed to definitely get rid of them, he was so confident. Well she just finished those meds and it's back with a vengeance. They didn't offer any other tests so we didn't deny anything they wanted to do, we're so desperate to get her better we were willing to pay up and try all these injections and meds.

She was on metronidazole, I'm pretty sure that's one of the two she just finished.

I just took her out and when she pooped she just whined and dark blood came out It kills me to see her this way.

The vet is closed now but I'm going to call tomorrow and get some advice and if they just want me to bring her in again I think i might just go to the other vet that was recommended to us.

Also can anyone recommend the best pet insurances for us? I know they won't cover this but if this month-long incident is any indicator of her future health I'd rather us be covered next time.

VPI is good I think for insurance.

If they thought it was ulcers did they give her Pepcid or sucralfate? These are stomach protectants.

Are her stools black?

I didn't realize that this all started after steroid use. She was put on steroids for skin issues first? How long ago was that? And what were her skin issues like?

If she has a food allergy that led to skin issues the limited ingredient could help with that.

If you are not comfortable with your vet, switch. No need to worry about anyones feelings. I've worked with great vets and some I wouldn't trust to treat my animal ( for short periods of time.)

janda426 · August 2013

nicole mackenzie said:

@nicolemackenzie

After we started her on the Prednisone is when we first noticed this. The vet said he thought it was ulcers too and the meds he gave were supposed to definitely get rid of them, he was so confident. Well she just finished those meds and it's back with a vengeance. They didn't offer any other tests so we didn't deny anything they wanted to do, we're so desperate to get her better we were willing to pay up and try all these injections and meds.

She was on metronidazole, I'm pretty sure that's one of the two she just finished.

I just took her out and when she pooped she just whined and dark blood came out It kills me to see her this way.

The vet is closed now but I'm going to call tomorrow and get some advice and if they just want me to bring her in again I think i might just go to the other vet that was recommended to us.

Also can anyone recommend the best pet insurances for us? I know they won't cover this but if this month-long incident is any indicator of her future health I'd rather us be covered next time.
VPI is good I think for insurance. If they thought it was ulcers did they give her Pepcid or sucralfate? These are stomach protectants. Are her stools black? I didn't realize that this all started after steroid use. She was put on steroids for skin issues first? How long ago was that? And what were her skin issues like? If she has a food allergy that led to skin issues the limited ingredient could help with that. If you are not comfortable with your vet, switch. No need to worry about anyones feelings. I've worked with great vets and some I wouldn't trust to treat my animal ( for short periods of time.)

Her stools are yellow with blood in them. They didn't give her Pepcid. She was put on the prednisone 12 days after we got her so like the first week of July. We hadn't had her for a long time so i didn't even know she had issues until the first vet told us her paws were discolored from licking them and the skin near her butt was too pink apparently.

The thing is I really like the vet we're with now (the first vet was an asshole so I've already switched once) but if they can't figure out what's wrong I'll have to switch yet again.

dragonfly711 · August 2013

janda426 said:
-She is up to date on her flea and heartworm meds, we use K9 advantix for fleas

-She is still totally herself! For anyone who hasn't read the whole story she was never vomiting, she just started that last night. From what I hear (I'm at work) she hasn't been sick all day.

-We will fast her again today to see if that helps, it helped last time we fasted her

Good. Advantix is good. See how she does after fasting. Good no more vomiting so far.

janda426 said:
@nicolemackenzie

After we started her on the Prednisone is when we first noticed this. The vet said he thought it was ulcers too and the meds he gave were supposed to definitely get rid of them, he was so confident. Well she just finished those meds and it's back with a vengeance. They didn't offer any other tests so we didn't deny anything they wanted to do, we're so desperate to get her better we were willing to pay up and try all these injections and meds.

She was on metronidazole, I'm pretty sure that's one of the two she just finished.

I just took her out and when she pooped she just whined and dark blood came out It kills me to see her this way.

The vet is closed now but I'm going to call tomorrow and get some advice and if they just want me to bring her in again I think i might just go to the other vet that was recommended to us.

Also can anyone recommend the best pet insurances for us? I know they won't cover this but if this month-long incident is any indicator of her future health I'd rather us be covered next time.

What Nichole said is right on. It can be very hard to figure out what is going on. Sometimes it is trial and error.

They might have to do some more tests if her stools are bloody.

Going for a second opinion can be good. Make sure you get all your records if not they will repeat tests you already have done. You will have to pay for another exam since they will have to do a complete exam on her.

As for insurance the top ones are ASPCA, VPI, Trupanion.
There are many more if you google pet insurance.

Personally I have my dog and two cats on Trupanion. You can pick your deductible and they pay 90/10.

Talk to a representative. That way you know what is covered. Some insurances do not cover exams. Dentals are not covered, and usually vaccines are not covered unless some may let you pay a higher premium.

For me I don't mind paying for the vaccines. I am more worries about unexpected issues. Someone getting sick or eating something.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

janda426 said:

nicole mackenzie said:

janda426 said:
@nicolemackenzie

After we started her on the Prednisone is when we first noticed this. The vet said he thought it was ulcers too and the meds he gave were supposed to definitely get rid of them, he was so confident. Well she just finished those meds and it's back with a vengeance. They didn't offer any other tests so we didn't deny anything they wanted to do, we're so desperate to get her better we were willing to pay up and try all these injections and meds.

She was on metronidazole, I'm pretty sure that's one of the two she just finished.

I just took her out and when she pooped she just whined and dark blood came out It kills me to see her this way.

The vet is closed now but I'm going to call tomorrow and get some advice and if they just want me to bring her in again I think i might just go to the other vet that was recommended to us.

Also can anyone recommend the best pet insurances for us? I know they won't cover this but if this month-long incident is any indicator of her future health I'd rather us be covered next time.
VPI is good I think for insurance.

If they thought it was ulcers did they give her Pepcid or sucralfate? These are stomach protectants.

Are her stools black?

I didn't realize that this all started after steroid use. She was put on steroids for skin issues first? How long ago was that? And what were her skin issues like?

If she has a food allergy that led to skin issues the limited ingredient could help with that.

If you are not comfortable with your vet, switch. No need to worry about anyones feelings. I've worked with great vets and some I wouldn't trust to treat my animal ( for short periods of time.)

Her stools are yellow with blood in them. They didn't give her Pepcid. She was put on the prednisone 12 days after we got her so like the first week of July. We hadn't had her for a long time so i didn't even know she had issues until the first vet told us her paws were discolored from licking them and the skin near her butt was too pink apparently.

The thing is I really like the vet we're with now (the first vet was an asshole so I've already switched once) but if they can't figure out what's wrong I'll have to switch yet again.

Licking the feet or around the anus causes discoloration and is a classic sign of allergies. Sounds like she is extra sensitive to pred though.

Your vet was probably not wrong in prescribing pred for her, but it can have side effects like you are seeing. If the diarrhea came after the pred the vet probably wouldn't jump to something like ibd or related tests, so I guess I'm not surprised tests werent offered at the time.

I'd give them a call tomorrow and talk and let them know the symptoms and maybe they can prescribe something like stomach protectants etc to try and get this under control before scheduling another visit.

Keep us updated

I hope things get better for you dog wise and home wise very soon!

janda426 · August 2013

Dakota is not doing well... At all... She's been up all night having black diarrhea and throwing up like every 10 minutes. Shes so lethargic. H left a message for the vet to bring her in ASAP once they open. I am so scared. Her symptoms went from manageable to us needing to be up all night long with her. I am praying they finally figure out what's wrong with her and they can fix it.

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

I would get her to an emergency clinic.

Black stools means she's bleeding. The loss of blood could make her anemic and they will want to check a rbc percent (PCV) at the least. They will likely want to do more complete bloodwork.

She is probably severely dehydrated if she is vomiting that frequently on top of diarrhea and will need supportive care.

She will likely need to be hospitalized on IV fluids and medications. Hopefully some sucralfate (carafate)
If she is really anemic she may need a blood transfusion, but hopefully she won't need that.

I'm very sorry you are going through this.

janda426 · August 2013

She stopped getting sick like 10 minutes after I posted that and she's been sleeping since. She must be exhausted. We left a message for the vet but were considering bringing her to the vet at the humane society today. I truly appreciate all the advice and support I'm getting and ill keep everyone updated...

BBer4 · August 2013

So sorry you guys are going through this. It must be so scary. I hope you are able to figure it out soon and she starts to feel better.

dragonfly711 · August 2013

njbabymama said:
just wanted to say i'm so sorry to hear about all this. it's so hard not being able to do anything for a sick pet, i have been there before. the humane society is amazing, they did surgery on my cat a couple of years ago after he ate 19 hair ties, strings from his toys, and pistachio shells (i really think he has pica). hopefully they can help you today.

our dog also has allergies, but it's manageable with OTC (human) allergy meds and doggie eye drops. i'm not a vet but jumping straight to prednisone seems a little drastic to me. did they have you taper off the prednisone? when i have to take it, i have to go off it slowly otherwise i could cause problems, maybe this is all related to the prednisone.

We just had a cat last week eat 19 hair ties. Last year one at 13. Have to watch cats. Was crazy when counting all of them.

Not my cats but ones were I work at the animal hospital

See pics!!!

janda426 · August 2013

Well H didn't listen to me or didn't understand and took her back to the usual vet instead of the humane society -_- but they did complete blood work which we won't get back until tomorrow and she had an X-ray which was negative for any blockages or foreign bodies, so that's good. But we still don't have an answer. Maybe something will be in the blood work, and if there is were praying that we can fix it.

Ill ask about parvo, I thought only puppies could get that though? But idk much about that. I think they checked for that in her stool samples but ill have H ask.

Again thank you guys so much seriously. Having all these different viewpoints and things to ask is SO helpful and I hope were that much closer to finding an answer for what's wrong with our girl.

janda426 · August 2013

The damage today was 570 fucking dollars and we got NO ANSWERS. I am so annoyed with H for taking her there again, I specifically said go to the humane society. They said if the blood work comes back normal tomorrow then all they're left with is IBS or food allergies. They gave us some clay powder to put in her food in case it's IBS

I got a suggestion to put her on gluten free food and see if that helps, would be funny (not really) if she can't tolerate gluten like her mama.

Idk about the B12, I wish I didn't have to work so I could've gone and ask everything myself.

Thank The Lord H got a huge raise this week or else I have no clue in hell how we'd pay for all this.

janda426 · August 2013

@mauibliss I'm almost hoping the same! I just want a freaking answer at this point!

Actually his theory last two times was the prednisone caused ulcers so the meds he gave were to treat them but she finished all the meds and it never got better.

Side note: when all this is over H and I want to plan an anniversary trip to Hawaii and your SN makes me think about it every time I see it haha

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

janda426 said:
The damage today was 570 fucking dollars and we got NO ANSWERS. I am so annoyed with H for taking her there again, I specifically said go to the humane society. They said if the blood work comes back normal tomorrow then all they're left with is IBS or food allergies. They gave us some clay powder to put in her food in case it's IBS

I got a suggestion to put her on gluten free food and see if that helps, would be funny (not really) if she can't tolerate gluten like her mama.

Idk about the B12, I wish I didn't have to work so I could've gone and ask everything myself.

Thank The Lord H got a huge raise this week or else I have no clue in hell how we'd pay for all this.

Was the obvious blood in stool addressed?

The clay idea sounds hokey to me.

I hope she gets better

dragonfly711 · August 2013

janda426 said:
The damage today was 570 fucking dollars and we got NO ANSWERS. I am so annoyed with H for taking her there again, I specifically said go to the humane society. They said if the blood work comes back normal tomorrow then all they're left with is IBS or food allergies. They gave us some clay powder to put in her food in case it's IBS

I got a suggestion to put her on gluten free food and see if that helps, would be funny (not really) if she can't tolerate gluten like her mama.

Idk about the B12, I wish I didn't have to work so I could've gone and ask everything myself.

Thank The Lord H got a huge raise this week or else I have no clue in hell how we'd pay for all this.

What is the clay you are talking about? Never heard of that. What about the blood in the stool?
What blood tests did they run? Did they run an allergy panel?

janda426 · August 2013

It straight up says "RX clay" on it... Idk. H can't remember if he addressed the blood.. I mean the whole treatment plan is addressing it but I guess the guy is thinking it could be any of the diseases he's testing her blood work for.

No allergy panel, although he said if this is all normal he's going to "assume" it's food allergies. See this is why I wish I could've gone. H doesn't think to ask all of this. This is the type of shit that makes us have to go back later. Ugh

For everyone's enjoyment, a picture of our girl, she is still having diarrhea but not vomiting anymore and back to her usual self...

Stupid mobile making pics sideways!

dragonfly711 · August 2013

She is cute!!!

Milagros315 · August 2013

Oh my gosh what a sweet little face! I'm glad that she seems to feel okay at the moment. I'm so sorry that you're still dealing with this and I hope you get some answers or a remedy soon!

MarcoIslandMommy · August 2013

What a cutie!! I hope you can find a solution to this soon, how frustrating this must be

She's worth all the time and effort (and money) spent, you're so blessed!

nicole mackenzie · August 2013

janda426 said:
It straight up says "RX clay" on it... Idk. H can't remember if he addressed the blood.. I mean the whole treatment plan is addressing it but I guess the guy is thinking it could be any of the diseases he's testing her blood work for.

No allergy panel, although he said if this is all normal he's going to "assume" it's food allergies. See this is why I wish I could've gone. H doesn't think to ask all of this. This is the type of shit that makes us have to go back later. Ugh

For everyone's enjoyment, a picture of our girl, she is still having diarrhea but not vomiting anymore and back to her usual self...

Stupid mobile making pics sideways!

Aw very cute

They can't do an allergy panel for a certain period of time after steroid use.

Do you still have her on a bland diet?

Let us know if they do find anything on her bloodwork.

What are her stools like now?

When she gets through this I think your best bet for food allergies is a food trial.

Like previously mentioned you have to give her a very strict diet. Avoid blue buffalo and diets like it that have a grocery list of ingredients. In a dog with allergies that's just way too many variables.

Natural balance limited ingredient has been mentioned and is a great place to start. Pick something as unrelated to the protein source in pedigree. Stick with the new diet for at least 3 months.

As previously mentioned no chews, bones, treats, or human food.

There may be a treat made by natural balance that is the same protein carb combo and that would be ok.

janda426 · August 2013

Well over 1000 dollars later it looks like we may finally have an answer. She has hookworms and her WBC is high. She is on meds to treat the worms and going on the metradizanole.

I am relieved and hoping this has been what's causing everything

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