I'd love to be able to have sex with reckless abandon and not get pregnant. I'm just saying its hard for me to relate to NTNP bc I could never do that. I'm sure there's other ladies here who would also get KTFU "not trying" rather quickly. I'm fighting semantics here (I don't like a phrase) while others are upset with how quickly someone could get KTFU not trying. There's tons of women like me. Have you not seen the amount of reality shows relating to unplanned pregnancies? They weren't trying either and somehow managed to conceive.
Eek.
Yeah. This is coming off as kind of insensitive to those who have TTTC.
I get why this is 'insensitive' but on the flip side, can't the opposite be said? I get what she's saying. To me, there is no such thing as "NTNP". We did that for a week. I got KU with Lo
I understand why some people see "NTNP" and something different than "TTC" but in general, I totally understand what msm is saying too.
It's the wording more than anything. I don't think it's intentional, though.
I'd love to be able to have sex with reckless abandon and not get pregnant. I'm just saying its hard for me to relate to NTNP bc I could never do that. I'm sure there's other ladies here who would also get KTFU "not trying" rather quickly. I'm fighting semantics here (I don't like a phrase) while others are upset with how quickly someone could get KTFU not trying. There's tons of women like me. Have you not seen the amount of reality shows relating to unplanned pregnancies? They weren't trying either and somehow managed to conceive.
Eek.
Yeah. This is coming off as kind of insensitive to those who have TTTC.
I get why this is 'insensitive' but on the flip side, can't the opposite be said? I get what she's saying. To me, there is no such thing as "NTNP". We did that for a week. I got KU with Lo
I understand why some people see "NTNP" and something different than "TTC" but in general, I totally understand what msm is saying too.
It's the wording. I get it, but I think she's really lacking in the tact department.
I suggest changing it to "passively TTC " or "impassively TTC" from the moment forward!! J/K
I think we all see both sides of the coin on this one, right? Now someone pass me the easily KU juice so I can take a swig!
I lack in many departments including being PC. But I'd rather talk to someone has a conviction and doesn't just want everyone to like them. I've always been this way. Few girl friends but damn good ones.
This sounds like woe is me, but it is annoying knowing that after hypothetical LO3, I will continue to have to use hormonal bc to not get KTFU. Due to my migraines I will never be off bc. So as much as I'd love to use family planning rhythm methods I can't. I know boo hoo for the fertile girl. This convo went to places I never dreamed imaginable.
Now everyone put on your this is a joke helmet: We are thinking of going on Maury bc I shook a lot of man hands the month we conceived DS1.
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I lack in many departments including being PC. But I'd rather talk to someone has a conviction and doesn't just want everyone to like them. I've always been this way. Few girl friends but damn good ones.
This sounds like woe is me, but it is annoying knowing that after hypothetical LO3, I will continue to have to use hormonal bc to not get KTFU. Due to my migraines I will never be off bc. So as much as I'd love to use family planning rhythm methods I can't. I know boo hoo for the fertile girl. This convo went to places I never dreamed imaginable.
Now everyone put on your this is a joke helmet: We are thinking of going on Maury bc I shook a lot of man hands the month we conceived DS1.
At least you know what you sound like to others(?)
We're not trying to say that you have it so so easy compared to the rest of us. Not at all.
We're just saying that you should be aware that there are things coming out of your mouth (fingers?) that could hurt others feelings, just so you know the impact you could be having on others.
I lack in many departments including being PC. But I'd rather talk to someone has a conviction and doesn't just want everyone to like them. I've always been this way. Few girl friends but damn good ones.
This sounds like woe is me, but it is annoying knowing that after hypothetical LO3, I will continue to have to use hormonal bc to not get KTFU. Due to my migraines I will never be off bc. So as much as I'd love to use family planning rhythm methods I can't. I know boo hoo for the fertile girl. This convo went to places I never dreamed imaginable.
Now everyone put on your this is a joke helmet: We are thinking of going on Maury bc I shook a lot of man hands the month we conceived DS1.
At least you know what you sound like to others(?)
We're not trying to say that you have it so so easy compared to the rest of us. Not at all.
We're just saying that you should be aware that there are things coming out of your mouth (fingers?) that could hurt others feelings, just so you know the impact you could be having on others.
To be honest, I am not trying to be insensitive. I think ppl on the bump love a person like me that can't always say what I mean in type. So it's fun for veteran bumpies to find the fallacies in what less witty typers like me write. Hopefully I am making someone's Friday pass faster.
If people would just say we aren't preventing a pregnancy I would be less annoyed at them. And I'm talking about IRL. People on the bump rarely irritate me bc I need the in person experience to be fully annoyed. That post just reminded me that I don't like when people say that in a real life interaction.
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They've blocked After 6 and Zappos at work. I'm pissed I can't shop for shoes.
I'm even more scared that The Bump will be next...then I'll dies!
If I couldn't shop for shoes I would be really bored.
I chose to keep being able to run over wearing heels, so my shoe shopping is really boring...lots of "granny" shoes. The shoes that are cute, but good for my feet are so so expensive, so I've been relying more on discount sites and amazon...
Any good suggestions for shoe shopping sites?
Do you have a Nordstrom Rack? I love Cole Haan Air shoes.
I lack in many departments including being PC. But I'd rather talk to someone has a conviction and doesn't just want everyone to like them. I've always been this way. Few girl friends but damn good ones. This sounds like woe is me, but it is annoying knowing that after hypothetical LO3, I will continue to have to use hormonal bc to not get KTFU. Due to my migraines I will never be off bc. So as much as I'd love to use family planning rhythm methods I can't. I know boo hoo for the fertile girl. This convo went to places I never dreamed imaginable. Now everyone put on your this is a joke helmet: We are thinking of going on Maury bc I shook a lot of man hands the month we conceived DS1.
So you know that you come off as offensive and crass and you don't care?
Wow, sign me up to be your friend.
FWIW, we had sex last night, with a condom. I know damn well that the condom could have had a pin hole in it somehow and one of his swimmers made it through, so does that mean I am trying? Because I know there is a chance I could get KU even with a condom? [-O<
Yes. Congrats, it's a BOY!!!
Well I don't believe in surprises either. But you guys probably don't want to go there with me now.
And by the way, since I do suck at getting my point across, I am happy that people have fun finding fallacies in what "crass" people like me say. I makes the bump enjoyable. I like when people get emotionally invested in any post. Isn't this what this place is about? Not just everyone making you feel good? I think debates and arguments are the reason I typically lurk. Those are the posts that get 4784849 million views. So I can't be the only one.
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They've blocked After 6 and Zappos at work. I'm pissed I can't shop for shoes.
I'm even more scared that The Bump will be next...then I'll dies!
My work place blocked The Bump for one day...longest day ever! I was (ridiculously) panicking over it. I was so relieved when I randomly tried it again the next day and it was unblocked.
Infertiles that use BC still get pregnant. Dont' worry, it's not a surprise tho.
You are the exact type of bumpie I was talking about. You love and live for people like me. Don't lie. And I am happy that I'm giving you fodder. I typically lurk but that one line today reminded of a few people that used that phrase lately. And I think it's a stupid phrase. I'll go back to lurking until I have some baby related question but don't act like you didn't enjoy a new face that got under your skin.
For the record this was written in a not sarcastic calm not upset way. (For real, not that wasnt sarcastic either). I suck at this.
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It's kinda like how You'd assume the name Carys is in the top 10 baby names if you only went on the bump for baby name advice. People with particular interests come to the bump. So thanks cheese I feel like what I was trying to say is I based my insight on what I see in my immediate real life community. Which fortunately for me, is tons of baby announcements over the past three years.
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I lack in many departments including being PC. But I'd rather talk to someone has a conviction and doesn't just want everyone to like them. I've always been this way. Few girl friends but damn good ones.
This sounds like woe is me, but it is annoying knowing that after hypothetical LO3, I will continue to have to use hormonal bc to not get KTFU. Due to my migraines I will never be off bc. So as much as I'd love to use family planning rhythm methods I can't. I know boo hoo for the fertile girl. This convo went to places I never dreamed imaginable.
Now everyone put on your this is a joke helmet: We are thinking of going on Maury bc I shook a lot of man hands the month we conceived DS1.
At least you know what you sound like to others(?)
We're not trying to say that you have it so so easy compared to the rest of us. Not at all.
We're just saying that you should be aware that there are things coming out of your mouth (fingers?) that could hurt others feelings, just so you know the impact you could be having on others.
To be honest, I am not trying to be insensitive. I think ppl on the bump love a person like me that can't always say what I mean in type. So it's fun for veteran bumpies to find the fallacies in what less witty typers like me write. Hopefully I am making someone's Friday pass faster.
If people would just say we aren't preventing a pregnancy I would be less annoyed at them. And I'm talking about IRL. People on the bump rarely irritate me bc I need the in person experience to be fully annoyed. That post just reminded me that I don't like when people say that in a real life interaction.
I hear what you're saying--there are times I think it's just a legitimate inability to be clear on the interwebs, not insentivity, and people can be a little too jumpy on that. At the same time--if you KNOW how you're coming off, or aren't sure how best to express yourself, maybe try the "type and step away" method or apologize up front? I know there have been times I've not come across perfectly, but I tend to know when those are, and I say, up front, "this might come off the wrong way, but..." It's received a lot better than "I know I'm not PC and I don't care eff it."
FWIW my issue with your "problem" with NTNP is your basic misunderstanding of the simple vocab word "trying" but that's just me. A quick definition for you: "Try: To attempt to do or accomplish." One can have unprotected sex without deliberately making any ATTEMPT at ACCOMPLISHING pregnancy. In practice, the difference between TTC and NTNP might be nothing other than that simple word (for you, pragmatically speaking, clearly the case), but it represents a huge difference in mentality.
We're not on TTGP here or TTC or 3T. I get that IF is a super personal, sensitive subject. But why should MSM be criticized for saying that she considers NTNP to be the same as TTC? She can't lament that she DOES get KU super easily?
It's not like she's hanging out on a TTGP talking about how she gets KU on the first cycle every time.
Of course she can, but she stated that NTNP wasn't a thing.
She stated that she didn't understand the phrase, and didn't like it. I honestly don't think she was trying to make light of people who have fertility problems. She just thought that if your having unprotected sex then that = trying. That's her opinion and even if other's don't have that same opinion then that doesn't make it wrong for her to say that.
She wasn't in her original comment. And, I think everyone was cool with the initial "I would get pregnant if my DH walked by me in a towel" Fine. Whatever.
It's after others mentioned to her that some people might be sensitive to TTC, and then she kinda blew it off, is when people started getting up in arms...
Infertiles that use BC still get pregnant. Dont' worry, it's not a surprise tho.
You are the exact type of bumpie I was talking about. You love and live for people like me. Don't lie. And I am happy that I'm giving you fodder. I typically lurk but that one line today reminded of a few people that used that phrase lately. And I think it's a stupid phrase. I'll go back to lurking until I have some baby related question but don't act like you didn't enjoy a new face that got under your skin. For the record this was written in a not sarcastic calm not upset way. (For real, not that wasnt sarcastic either). I suck at this.
I don't even know WTF you are talking about.
From my lurking experience, you seem to enjoy schooling people typically by mocking to express how your opinion is superior. And trust me, I typically enjoy it bc I'm not the one being copied and pasted. Not that I don't enjoy this either. Just never got myself involved in one before.
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I need to talk to DH about how overwhelmed I am trying to keep up with the house, the bills, the kids and all of the other stuff I'm dealing with but I keep finding a reason not to. It has been going on for months and I'm afraid he will take it the wrong way. He does help if I ask him ten times. I just need him to do it the first or second time. Or, even better, just do it without even involving me. That would be heaven.
I don't "love" this, but I understand exactly how you feel. Sometimes I get really down because I feel like MH doesn't care about things like I do. I put everything I have into this house and our kids, and I know as a SAHM it's my responsibility, but a little help- PLEASE. I mean, why can't you do what I ask before I get frustrated and either do it myself or it ends in an argument.
Have you considered starting the conversation with how important these issues are to you, even if they aren't something he is too concerned with typically? Or maybe even telling him that you were even stressed to bring it up because you were apprehensive about his reaction? Sometimes, when I pose things to my DH that way, it helps him understand my mindset a little more...
I'm secretly confused about the #selflove hastag on IG. I mean, doesn't that mean like... you know... masturbating? I feel out of the loop and kinda old sometimes.
Well, that's what every single other bumpie following her thought and thinks. And then it became a big lol when she posted selfie nakeds with the #selflove. One can only assume what you self love when you are nakey.
Yeeeahhh... at first I thought maybe she didn't understand what people normally mean by "self love". And then I thought maybe she DID. And then I wondered why you'd announce to people that you were getting ready for some self lovin'. *shrug*
1) It's often associated with #birthwithoutfear to promote loving the body you're in.
2) It is a big thing with the not-bump "hippie" and religious circles I'm in. I guess no one else has seen the pictures of your feet in the bathtub with a candle NOT being about masterbating.
To clear it up once and for all, it is about loving for, caring for, and being kind/loving to yourself. Not about diddling the skittle.
Marian Abigail :: born 9-16-2012 via emergency C/S
Infertiles that use BC still get pregnant. Dont' worry, it's not a surprise tho.
You are the exact type of bumpie I was talking about. You love and live for people like me. Don't lie. And I am happy that I'm giving you fodder. I typically lurk but that one line today reminded of a few people that used that phrase lately. And I think it's a stupid phrase. I'll go back to lurking until I have some baby related question but don't act like you didn't enjoy a new face that got under your skin. For the record this was written in a not sarcastic calm not upset way. (For real, not that wasnt sarcastic either). I suck at this.
I don't even know WTF you are talking about.
You're kind of the patroller of someone said something stupid, offensive, annoying, cliche, whatever police. And then you say something back like sex makes babies y'all (hopefully you have a southern accent or that could be offensive!). But no one would call you on that bc you're Lois and post a lot. So who wants to be In your bad graces?
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No fault of my own but a southern accent is typically used to be derogatory in the sense that someone is of inferior intelligence. French is typically derogatory in e sense of someone snobby. You seemed to hit the nail on the head with both of those posts.
And now everyone feel free to claim you ever heard that before and that I'm some racist hick now on top of everything else.
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No fault of my own but a southern accent is typically used to be derogatory in the sense that someone is of inferior intelligence. French is typically derogatory in e sense of someone snobby. You seemed to hit the nail on the head with both of those posts. And now everyone feel free to claim you ever heard that before and that I'm some racist hick now on top of everything else.
I might not be eloquent but at least I'm not predictable.
What would be a predictable response for me here, since you know me oh so well?
I'd have to run off and find a movie thingy if I were you at this point.
::::scratches head again:::
Scratches head? You have one in your siggy. And I'm assuming you've used them in other arguments to get your witty point across while being oh so cool.
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Huh. I wasn't even thinking about a movie thingy (psst: it's called a gif).
I was going to go with a standard, "Oh."
Guess you don't know me as well as you thought.
I'm not a newbie, most of my questions here are baby or medical related. Most responses are to medical or baby questions (I'm sure you've already stalked me). I don't typically engage in banter. So no, I'm not good at it and I don't spend a ton of time here to know its a gif. Thanks for the new vocab.
Today's rare bc my mom took the kids for the day. You guys can all pray that this is a one time event and I'm never left alone again.
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Not drinking the hatorade. From lurking, I just figure I wouldn't like you. And today when I "put my foot in my mouth" it was no surprise to me that you jumped in the most condescendingly.. It's been entertaining.
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I think when people post a lot and jump down people's throats the hardest they get called out a lot. Other people said things to me (both with and mostly against me), i read everyone's comment and took home some good advice. But not from Lois. She's just for show. And as for the other person mentioned, I recognize your name but I am not referring to you.
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Not drinking the hatorade. From lurking, I just figure I wouldn't like you. And today when I "put my foot in my mouth" it was no surprise to me that you jumped in the most condescendingly.. It's been entertaining.
Tell me about me. Am I cool? I must know. GUISE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ME NOW. Go ahead, I'm listening.
You like to have everyone like you but you only have a few true friends.
I'm sure you'll find something I said out of context. That's not accurate. I couldn't care less if people don't like me. I value having three amazing friends instead of 14 acquaintances. That's just me. Is it so bad that I think we wouldn't get along from lurking?
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No I'm really just msm. I never had a full day away from kids and I couldn't get to the gym this morning bc my cars being inspected. So I'm bored for the first time since having kids. How does one lurk well? I lurk during naps. And I like to help people with high maintenance kids or those with MPSI when I do engage on here.
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I don't mind giving out my first name as I have in baby names before. It's Margie which is uncommon so I'm sure there's no Margie in a fb group. And if there is then damnit. I'll give the first letter of my last name.
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Not drinking the hatorade. From lurking, I just figure I wouldn't like you. And today when I "put my foot in my mouth" it was no surprise to me that you jumped in the most condescendingly.. It's been entertaining.
Tell me about me. Am I cool? I must know. GUISE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ME NOW. Go ahead, I'm listening.
You like to have everyone like you but you only have a few true friends.
I'm sure you'll find something I said out of context. That's not accurate. I couldn't care less if people don't like me. I value having three amazing friends instead of 14 acquaintances. That's just me. Is it so bad that I think we wouldn't get along from lurking?
I WASN'T EVEN TALKING TO YOU.
AND I WASN'T EVEN TALKING TO YOU. GTFO, LOIS.
Oh damn. I thought that was a nice ending. Us agreeing on something-- not like each other IRL--and then getting stuck as teammates on The Challenge III.
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Not drinking the hatorade. From lurking, I just figure I wouldn't like you. And today when I "put my foot in my mouth" it was no surprise to me that you jumped in the most condescendingly.. It's been entertaining.
Tell me about me. Am I cool? I must know. GUISE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ME NOW. Go ahead, I'm listening.
You like to have everyone like you but you only have a few true friends.
I'm sure you'll find something I said out of context. That's not accurate. I couldn't care less if people don't like me. I value having three amazing friends instead of 14 acquaintances. That's just me. Is it so bad that I think we wouldn't get along from lurking?
I WASN'T EVEN TALKING TO YOU.
AND I WASN'T EVEN TALKING TO YOU. GTFO, LOIS.
I'd post a gif here but that's predictble. So instead I'll say:
"LET ME LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!"
CAN YOU BE PREDICTABLE FOR JUST A SECOND AND HELP A GIRL OUT WITH A HOT, MANLY GIF?
That wasn't supposed to be caps, but imma leave it. Hot men GIFs are serious bidness.
Ask @msm. she's in charge of my predictability since she knows me so well.
Geez girl you post a lot and a lot of your posts are like the one above. I'm sure there are other lurkers that have an opinion about you. Bc you post a lot. So it's not hard to see it coming.
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Not drinking the hatorade. From lurking, I just figure I wouldn't like you. And today when I "put my foot in my mouth" it was no surprise to me that you jumped in the most condescendingly.. It's been entertaining.
Tell me about me. Am I cool? I must know. GUISE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ME NOW. Go ahead, I'm listening.
I've never seen a picture of your LO so I picture her as drunk baby. A part of me might actually be a little sad if I did see a picture and she didn't at all resemble drunk baby.
That's why people are all like who is this msm? Bc I'm not predictable bc I rarely post like this. Today I must be sort of intriguing. But if I kept this up you guys would be like oh msm she's always (insert whatever adjective here).
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Re: FFFC
It's the wording more than anything. I don't think it's intentional, though.
I think we all see both sides of the coin on this one, right? Now someone pass me the easily KU juice so I can take a swig!
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We're not trying to say that you have it so so easy compared to the rest of us. Not at all.
We're just saying that you should be aware that there are things coming out of your mouth (fingers?) that could hurt others feelings, just so you know the impact you could be having on others.
Katherine Quinn | 9.16.2012 | 38w4d
Ryan Lanman | 9.12.2014 | 40w
2 Losses | 10/2010 @ 5w | 9/2013 @ 10w4d
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To be honest, I am not trying to be insensitive. I think ppl on the bump love a person like me that can't always say what I mean in type. So it's fun for veteran bumpies to find the fallacies in what less witty typers like me write. Hopefully I am making someone's Friday pass faster. If people would just say we aren't preventing a pregnancy I would be less annoyed at them. And I'm talking about IRL. People on the bump rarely irritate me bc I need the in person experience to be fully annoyed. That post just reminded me that I don't like when people say that in a real life interaction.
Well I don't believe in surprises either. But you guys probably don't want to go there with me now. And by the way, since I do suck at getting my point across, I am happy that people have fun finding fallacies in what "crass" people like me say. I makes the bump enjoyable. I like when people get emotionally invested in any post. Isn't this what this place is about? Not just everyone making you feel good? I think debates and arguments are the reason I typically lurk. Those are the posts that get 4784849 million views. So I can't be the only one.
Finally someone got my point. Thanks for writing in a way the masses will understand.
FWIW my issue with your "problem" with NTNP is your basic misunderstanding of the simple vocab word "trying" but that's just me. A quick definition for you: "Try: To attempt to do or accomplish." One can have unprotected sex without deliberately making any ATTEMPT at ACCOMPLISHING pregnancy. In practice, the difference between TTC and NTNP might be nothing other than that simple word (for you, pragmatically speaking, clearly the case), but it represents a huge difference in mentality.
It's after others mentioned to her that some people might be sensitive to TTC, and then she kinda blew it off, is when people started getting up in arms...
Katherine Quinn | 9.16.2012 | 38w4d
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From my lurking experience, you seem to enjoy schooling people typically by mocking to express how your opinion is superior. And trust me, I typically enjoy it bc I'm not the one being copied and pasted. Not that I don't enjoy this either. Just never got myself involved in one before.
Katherine Quinn | 9.16.2012 | 38w4d
Ryan Lanman | 9.12.2014 | 40w
2 Losses | 10/2010 @ 5w | 9/2013 @ 10w4d
Little Sprout Blog
Katherine Quinn | 9.16.2012 | 38w4d
Ryan Lanman | 9.12.2014 | 40w
2 Losses | 10/2010 @ 5w | 9/2013 @ 10w4d
Little Sprout Blog
#:-S
Katherine Quinn | 9.16.2012 | 38w4d
Ryan Lanman | 9.12.2014 | 40w
2 Losses | 10/2010 @ 5w | 9/2013 @ 10w4d
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I'd have to run off and find a movie thingy if I were you at this point.
Where did that come from?
Scratches head? You have one in your siggy. And I'm assuming you've used them in other arguments to get your witty point across while being oh so cool.
I'm not a newbie, most of my questions here are baby or medical related. Most responses are to medical or baby questions (I'm sure you've already stalked me). I don't typically engage in banter. So no, I'm not good at it and I don't spend a ton of time here to know its a gif. Thanks for the new vocab. Today's rare bc my mom took the kids for the day. You guys can all pray that this is a one time event and I'm never left alone again.
I'm sure you'll find something I said out of context. That's not accurate. I couldn't care less if people don't like me. I value having three amazing friends instead of 14 acquaintances. That's just me. Is it so bad that I think we wouldn't get along from lurking?
Oh damn. I thought that was a nice ending. Us agreeing on something-- not like each other IRL--and then getting stuck as teammates on The Challenge III.
Geez girl you post a lot and a lot of your posts are like the one above. I'm sure there are other lurkers that have an opinion about you. Bc you post a lot. So it's not hard to see it coming.