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arlingirl · May 2013

Liz4444:
I will also admit to being a STM who still doesn't have a clue what I'm doing, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

Shoot...I'm not a STM, but I rarely feel like I know what's going on with much of anything. Ugh.

Liz4444 · May 2013

PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
I went over it in another thread, but I have more sympathy for overweight people who struggle with their body issues than I do for skinny people that complain about their bodies.nbsp;

I suffered from a very serious eating disorder, was almost hospitalized a few times and still have body dysmorphic disorder. For someone to think my struggles aren't just as valid because I'm thin in their eyes pisses me off.
Just to clarify. I said I have less sympathy. I did not say I had no sympathy. I am sorry for your struggles, but its culturally acceptable to have issues and be skinny vs. fat.
Also, I think skinny folks' struggles (if they have them) are valid. I just have a harder time getting behind a size 0 person telling me they think they are fat and complaining about it than someone who is larger complaining about it. I just have a harder time hearing about it. I've been on both sides (granted, no eating disorder). I've been thin and I've been fat. My experience is that being thin gets you further and better treated.

That is not to say that eating disorders aren't serious either way. Simply that people tend to have a lot more negative associations with "the fat girl that won't stop eating" vs. The skinny girl who can't keep weight on or doesn't want to eat.  

I'm not looking for any sympathy from anyone. But to say you have less sympathy for someone just because you don't regard their issue as a real issue makes me side eye.

I think it's a real issue. Again, I've never said I didn't think a skinny person could have legit problems. Just that their skinny problem is culturally acceptable by many.

It's just harder to hear a skinny person complain that they "feel/look fat" when they have what you want. You hear them complain and it's hard to take.

They are thin, able to wear cute clothes [no plus sized mumus or crazy tent monstrosities], don't have problems with people thinking they have no will power or drive etc.

When you are fat you are labeled with all kinds of negative attributes vs. when you are skinny. Yes, skinny people can have issues. I've just seen a lot more fat shaming than skinny shaming.

To hear a skinny person say they have it hard is kind of eye roll worthy to me.

Prim, you know I never do this, but I am going to end this particular discussion right here before I get upset.

Liz4444 · May 2013

PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
I went over it in another thread, but I have more sympathy for overweight people who struggle with their body issues than I do for skinny people that complain about their bodies.nbsp;

I suffered from a very serious eating disorder, was almost hospitalized a few times and still have body dysmorphic disorder. For someone to think my struggles aren't just as valid because I'm thin in their eyes pisses me off.
Just to clarify. I said I have less sympathy. I did not say I had no sympathy. I am sorry for your struggles, but its culturally acceptable to have issues and be skinny vs. fat.
Also, I think skinny folks' struggles (if they have them) are valid. I just have a harder time getting behind a size 0 person telling me they think they are fat and complaining about it than someone who is larger complaining about it. I just have a harder time hearing about it. I've been on both sides (granted, no eating disorder). I've been thin and I've been fat. My experience is that being thin gets you further and better treated.

That is not to say that eating disorders aren't serious either way. Simply that people tend to have a lot more negative associations with "the fat girl that won't stop eating" vs. The skinny girl who can't keep weight on or doesn't want to eat.  

I'm not looking for any sympathy from anyone. But to say you have less sympathy for someone just because you don't regard their issue as a real issue makes me side eye.

I think it's a real issue. Again, I've never said I didn't think a skinny person could have legit problems. Just that their skinny problem is culturally acceptable by many.

It's just harder to hear a skinny person complain that they "feel/look fat" when they have what you want. You hear them complain and it's hard to take.

They are thin, able to wear cute clothes [no plus sized mumus or crazy tent monstrosities], don't have problems with people thinking they have no will power or drive etc.

When you are fat you are labeled with all kinds of negative attributes vs. when you are skinny. Yes, skinny people can have issues. I've just seen a lot more fat shaming than skinny shaming.

To hear a skinny person say they have it hard is kind of eye roll worthy to me.

Prim, you know I never do this, but I am going to end this particular discussion right here before I get upset.

[Deleted User] · May 2013

I'm really upset that I have to leave my computer and get ready for my doctors appointment. I hope I don't miss too much today:(

Liz4444 · May 2013

Asbromle:
I'm really upset that I have to leave my computer and get ready for my doctors appointment.nbsp; I hope I don't miss too much today:

Bring your phone!

PrimRoseMama · May 2013

Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
I went over it in another thread, but I have more sympathy for overweight people who struggle with their body issues than I do for skinny people that complain about their bodies.nbsp;

I suffered from a very serious eating disorder, was almost hospitalized a few times and still have body dysmorphic disorder. For someone to think my struggles aren't just as valid because I'm thin in their eyes pisses me off.
Just to clarify. I said I have less sympathy. I did not say I had no sympathy. I am sorry for your struggles, but its culturally acceptable to have issues and be skinny vs. fat.
Also, I think skinny folks' struggles (if they have them) are valid. I just have a harder time getting behind a size 0 person telling me they think they are fat and complaining about it than someone who is larger complaining about it. I just have a harder time hearing about it. I've been on both sides (granted, no eating disorder). I've been thin and I've been fat. My experience is that being thin gets you further and better treated.

That is not to say that eating disorders aren't serious either way. Simply that people tend to have a lot more negative associations with "the fat girl that won't stop eating" vs. The skinny girl who can't keep weight on or doesn't want to eat.  

I'm not looking for any sympathy from anyone. But to say you have less sympathy for someone just because you don't regard their issue as a real issue makes me side eye.

I think it's a real issue. Again, I've never said I didn't think a skinny person could have legit problems. Just that their skinny problem is culturally acceptable by many.

It's just harder to hear a skinny person complain that they "feel/look fat" when they have what you want. You hear them complain and it's hard to take.

They are thin, able to wear cute clothes [no plus sized mumus or crazy tent monstrosities], don't have problems with people thinking they have no will power or drive etc.

When you are fat you are labeled with all kinds of negative attributes vs. when you are skinny. Yes, skinny people can have issues. I've just seen a lot more fat shaming than skinny shaming.

To hear a skinny person say they have it hard is kind of eye roll worthy to me.

Prim, you know I never do this, but I am going to end this particular discussion right here before I get upset.

That's alright by me. I'm very sorry if my UO really upset you today. It was not my intention and I apologize.

pgermain11 · May 2013

meimsx:
Holy moly you guys are at it early today.
Ok so I have two. One's probably not that unpopular. YAY for Etoille working from home because she's actually around a bit.
The other is flammable and probably quite unpopular. I'm sick of the condescending women on here who say "Baby needs to stay inside until 40 weeks!! It's practically child abuse to have a baby earlier!!" Ok yes 40 weeks is FULL term. I completely agree with the Term vs Full Term debate. Please do not use it interchangeably. There is a difference. However with that said, I will be lucky to make it to term. I hope to make it to AT LEAST 38 weeks. I don't think though that women that want to have a baby born during the 39th week are somehow awful people. 274 days is not some magic number where everything goes right whereas 271 days is a recipe for disaster. Or 265 days. Do those days mean more development? Yeah but that doesn't mean a baby born at 38w5d is going to be unhealthy or under developed. There are babies that decide they are ready at 36 weeks and they need nicu time. There are babies that decide they are ready at 41 weeks that need nicu time. It's not a magic formula and every baby is different.
I wish people would stop telling others that their babies NEED to stay in until 40 weeks when that is no guarantee. There is no one size fits all for these babies.
Please don't think I am saying induce early. I'm just saying if a baby comes early it's not the end of the world if they are at least term.
With that said I think people that do elective inductions prior to 40 weeks because they are uncomfortable are dumb. I think that people that choose an ELECTIVE c/s before 40 weeks because of convenience are dumb. RCS's are not the same as ELECTIVE c/s. I think women who start drinking castor oil at 37 weeks are dumb. I think women who go on five mile walks at 37 weeks are dumb. I think that TRYING to get your baby out early is dumb. I just don't think it's wrong to be excited if you are progressing at 38 or 39 weeks.

Absolutely agree. I saw someone on 3rd Tri get tore up because they were hoping the baby would come soon and she was somewhat progressing. I couldn't stop rolling my eyes at the thread... so I stopped reading it.

Liz4444 · May 2013

PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
I went over it in another thread, but I have more sympathy for overweight people who struggle with their body issues than I do for skinny people that complain about their bodies.nbsp;

I suffered from a very serious eating disorder, was almost hospitalized a few times and still have body dysmorphic disorder. For someone to think my struggles aren't just as valid because I'm thin in their eyes pisses me off.
Just to clarify. I said I have less sympathy. I did not say I had no sympathy. I am sorry for your struggles, but its culturally acceptable to have issues and be skinny vs. fat.
Also, I think skinny folks' struggles (if they have them) are valid. I just have a harder time getting behind a size 0 person telling me they think they are fat and complaining about it than someone who is larger complaining about it. I just have a harder time hearing about it. I've been on both sides (granted, no eating disorder). I've been thin and I've been fat. My experience is that being thin gets you further and better treated.

That is not to say that eating disorders aren't serious either way. Simply that people tend to have a lot more negative associations with "the fat girl that won't stop eating" vs. The skinny girl who can't keep weight on or doesn't want to eat.  

I'm not looking for any sympathy from anyone. But to say you have less sympathy for someone just because you don't regard their issue as a real issue makes me side eye.

I think it's a real issue. Again, I've never said I didn't think a skinny person could have legit problems. Just that their skinny problem is culturally acceptable by many.

It's just harder to hear a skinny person complain that they "feel/look fat" when they have what you want. You hear them complain and it's hard to take.

They are thin, able to wear cute clothes [no plus sized mumus or crazy tent monstrosities], don't have problems with people thinking they have no will power or drive etc.

When you are fat you are labeled with all kinds of negative attributes vs. when you are skinny. Yes, skinny people can have issues. I've just seen a lot more fat shaming than skinny shaming.

To hear a skinny person say they have it hard is kind of eye roll worthy to me.

Prim, you know I never do this, but I am going to end this particular discussion right here before I get upset.

That's alright by me. I'm very sorry if my UO really upset you today. It was not my intention and I apologize.

Thank you. This is my one very touchy subject.

PrimRoseMama · May 2013

Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
Liz4444:
PrimRoseMama:
I went over it in another thread, but I have more sympathy for overweight people who struggle with their body issues than I do for skinny people that complain about their bodies.nbsp;

I suffered from a very serious eating disorder, was almost hospitalized a few times and still have body dysmorphic disorder. For someone to think my struggles aren't just as valid because I'm thin in their eyes pisses me off.
Just to clarify. I said I have less sympathy. I did not say I had no sympathy. I am sorry for your struggles, but its culturally acceptable to have issues and be skinny vs. fat.
Also, I think skinny folks' struggles (if they have them) are valid. I just have a harder time getting behind a size 0 person telling me they think they are fat and complaining about it than someone who is larger complaining about it. I just have a harder time hearing about it. I've been on both sides (granted, no eating disorder). I've been thin and I've been fat. My experience is that being thin gets you further and better treated.

That is not to say that eating disorders aren't serious either way. Simply that people tend to have a lot more negative associations with "the fat girl that won't stop eating" vs. The skinny girl who can't keep weight on or doesn't want to eat.  

I'm not looking for any sympathy from anyone. But to say you have less sympathy for someone just because you don't regard their issue as a real issue makes me side eye.

I think it's a real issue. Again, I've never said I didn't think a skinny person could have legit problems. Just that their skinny problem is culturally acceptable by many.

It's just harder to hear a skinny person complain that they "feel/look fat" when they have what you want. You hear them complain and it's hard to take.

They are thin, able to wear cute clothes [no plus sized mumus or crazy tent monstrosities], don't have problems with people thinking they have no will power or drive etc.

When you are fat you are labeled with all kinds of negative attributes vs. when you are skinny. Yes, skinny people can have issues. I've just seen a lot more fat shaming than skinny shaming.

To hear a skinny person say they have it hard is kind of eye roll worthy to me.

Prim, you know I never do this, but I am going to end this particular discussion right here before I get upset.

That's alright by me. I'm very sorry if my UO really upset you today. It was not my intention and I apologize.

Thank you. This is my one very touchy subject.

No problem.

[[[hugs]]] I feel badly that I may have hurt you. Please know that I am not out to do that. Thank you for accepting my apology.

sparkymcgeee · May 2013

Gosh darn you people! Every single time I feel like I'm typing something flammable and you people simply agree with me I'm put off. Where is the indignation?! Where is the uproar?! Lol.

PrimRoseMama · May 2013

meimsx:
Gosh darn you people! Every single time I feel like I'm typing something flammable and you people simply agree with me I'm put off. Where is the indignation?! Where is the uproar?! Lol.

Try harder! Stick out tongue

mrschristinalou · May 2013

valstulas:
pgermain11:
I don't like when people say a natural birth is one without medication. It bugs the shiz out of me. So if I squeeze my baby out of my vag with medication it's not natural? Maybe I'm wrong in the definition, but I think of natural birth as giving birth thru your lady bits and not having a csection. There are medicated natural births and medfree natural births, no?nbsp;

I think putting labels on your birth experience just makes women feel bad about themselves. Whether you have a c section, an induction, or a totally med free birth, it doesn't matter and you shouldn't feel bad about yourself. If you and baby come out the other side healthy, that's enough.

Thank you!!! Well said.

valstulas · May 2013

Liz4444:
I will also admit to being a STM who still doesn't have a clue what I'm doing, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

This is very normal. Yes, you have more experience with kids now, but I definitely recall feeling like I had no flucking clue when DS1 was a toddler. Now I feel more confident with newborns, infants, toddlers, and preschoolers, but I still have no idea what to do with DS1.

valstulas · May 2013

PrimRoseMama:
meimsx:
Gosh darn you people! Every single time I feel like I'm typing something flammable and you people simply agree with me I'm put off. Where is the indignation?! Where is the uproar?! Lol.

Try harder!

Agreed. Throw something REALLY juicy out there. Like how beatings truly are effective forms of discipline. Or how maternal crack use isn't that bad for newborns. ;P

valstulas · May 2013

BetsyD2010:
valstulas:
Liz4444:
I will also admit to being a STM who still doesn't have a clue what I'm doing, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

This is very normal. Yes, you have more experience with kids now, but I definitely recall feeling like I had no flucking clue when DS1 was a toddler. Now I feel more confident with newborns, infants, toddlers, and preschoolers, but I still have no idea what to do with DS1.

I'll
certainly admit that an infant in the house makes me anxious. I know we'll get
through it but I'm pretty spoiled right now. I feel like we've been coasting on
auto pilot. DS is potty trained, has slept through the night for years and
pretty much self-sufficient other than occasionally wiping of the booty and
tying his shoes. This baby is going to rock our world.

DS1 threw this huge fit when I went into the hospital to have DS2 and broke a vase with flowers in it. I remember crying and saying, "How am I going to bring a new baby home?!" It all works out, but bringing a new baby home is terrifying.

eggymaye · May 2013

Carrie3102:
Liz4444:
I will also admit to being a STM who still doesn't have a clue what I'm doing, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
Wooohooo!! You mean I'm not the only one?!

Okay that makes at least three of us! :-P

sparkymcgeee · May 2013

maryannespier:
meimsx:
Gosh darn you people! Every single time I feel like I'm typing something flammable and you people simply agree with me I'm put off. Where is the indignation?! Where is the uproar?! Lol.
What the eff. I can't believe you thought it was appropriate to use those gift cards to buy a camera.
just kidding

Haha! I love that camera. It's awesome and I did have to pay SOME out of pocket.

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