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I haz a confession.
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Re: I haz a confession.
Well, I'm sure people are expecting it to be me, but I pass. LOL I'm still wondering why KC hates Santa though.
I've never had someone judge me for having had a c section. I had a lot of "poor you" sentiment because major surgery is the suck. I had some judgement when I was pushing for a VBAC, more when I chose forceps over a RCS, then none when I chose another vaginal delivery.
Now that is annoying and worrisome. I can see being pissed about that. Insurance is already crazy to begin with.
i like to tease people, what can I say. Sucks when parenting gets in the way of bumping. Lol.
and no, I don't hate fat people nor do I care about how other people's babies are born. I just don't like that people are quick to blame the section rate on doctors. I'm not implying old fat women shouldn't have kids because they are more likely to need csections. Heck, I'm all for elective sections if that what the mom chooses and doc discusses the risks. It's just irritating people are always blaming the doctors and turning a blind eye to our culture. Women who are obese and/or advanced maternal age are statistically more likely to need a section-it's an indisputable fact.
the stuff about big babies too-I think people need to take it on a case by case basis. A mom who is 25, 5'9 and 150lbs might not benefit from a scheduled section based on size but it might be the right choice for a mom whose 45, 5'9 and 350lbs. Now everyone on the bump thinks they're doctors since they read a statement from the agog. I think people should consult with their doctors when making decisions, not the Internet.
im also young, slender and had 2 sections. My point was missed if you thought I was implying that csections only happen in old, fat people.
i don't doubt that some doctors coerce patients into unnecessary sections. I just don't think it happens as often as the bump wants you do believe nor is it the main factor in our astronomical section rate.
OK. I understand that this is what everyone talks about here on TB. Did we weight benefits vs. risks, etc.
Let's look the NUMBERS. Statistically speaking, the risks of ALL complications are LOW. Sure, some may be lower in the event of a vaginal birth, but surgical intervention still only presents with LOW incidence of complications now and in the future. Furthermore, some of the complications are the same whether you're having your wisdom teeth removed (under general) or you're having a hernia repaired.
So, sure, the risks exist, but ultimately statistics are on a woman's side.
My philosophy on the issue in its entirety is that it's my body and mine and DH's baby. We'll decide how it's entering the world.
An old, fat man in a red suit breaking into my house in the middle of the night? Creepy. My kids are wise for crying when they see Santa at the mall.
dont forget the pouches!
But old and fat also isn't the sole reason the rate is 30%. A lot of that percentage comes from repeat c-sections, actually.
And everything amy numbers said.
DS2 - Oct 2010 (my VBAC baby!)
It still makes me sad that you don't think Santa is special and important.
Unable to even.
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You don't understand the appeal of Benedict Cumberbatch / think he's fug / don't know who he is? WATCH SHERLOCK. Until you do, your negative opinion of him will not be taken seriously.
Does she not? I think I must have missed this. You really do hate Santa, KC? What is up with that??
i never said it was the sole reason. I don't think anything is the sole reason-as someone else stated its a multi faceted issue. I just think people are too quick to point the finger at the doctor who doesn't want to miss tee time while overlooking the elephant in the room. As I said before, it's a cultural issue, not a doctor issue.
LOL, you may want to look above to the answer to your question.
I thought you were kidding. I didn't realize this was a long standing issue.
i was kidding.
Too lazy to read this whole thread (I only jumped in on the last page). What do you mean by "cultural issue"?
There are multiple reasons, but old and fat and maternal choice are all pretty small reasons. And I think there's a big argument for providers who are *more likley* to recommend a c/s for a mom who is old and fat, though she would most likely be fine with a vaginal birth.
DS2 - Oct 2010 (my VBAC baby!)
I am late to the party on this. FWIW, I had a natural hospital birth with a midwife and had such a great experience I am a huge birth advocate.
However, in my area c-sections and inductions are outrageous. The nearest hospital is 50% I could list 40 women right now I know that were given inductions/sections unnecessarily. I live in an area where most FTM's are early 20's or younger-- fit, healthy, etc. THEY ARE STILL GETTING SECTIONS!
A few examples:
-A petite girl I know (5 ft even) was told she was too small and her baby was too big. She had a scheduled c/s yesterday. Baby was 5lb 2oz.
-My little sister was pregnant and when she was NINE weeks pregnant, the doctor was discussing inducing her 10 days before her due date. Thankfully, she changed care providers.
-Countless other women I know are told their babies are 9+ pounds and come out 5-7lb.
-Another (young) mom I know was told she couldn't breastfeed her son while he was in the NICU because it would be "inconvenient for him."
I 100% believe all these unnecessary interventions are doctor driven and it is outrageous. These doctors are blatantly disregarding recommendations by ACOG and get away with it due to creative charting and flat out lying. These doctors are doing an enormous disservice to moms and babies and something needs to be done about it.