October 2012 Moms

UO Thursday?

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  • imageDanielleH910:
    I guess my UO would be I love the fireworks!  Even the illegal ones.  It might be different next year if LO is scared of them.  But I really enjoy watching the fireworks, in fact last night we took our dog to the beach for our nightly walk and people were setting off their own fireworks at the same time a neighboring town was.  Our dog loved the fireworks, she watched each and every one and wagged her tail the whole time.  I guess we have a weird dog since I know most dogs hate the sound/sight of them.
    I think they wouldn't bother me as much if a) I did not have a small child b) I didn't have to come into work today c) my dogs didn't fuh-reak out and d) if I could enjoy them while having a few beers instead of being run down and pregnant.

    Of course- like I said, I think I'm just becoming an old curmudgeon.

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  • I think there should be a drivers test for every driver on the road every couple of years.  There are a lot of drivers who seem to forget the rules or just forget the seriousness of what they're doing when they drive.


    I say this after being hit by another car this morning (their fault.)

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  • My UO is I hate when people don't follow rules.

    I get that there are some stupid rules out there, but there are a lot that are in place for a reason. I'm a graduate student - the rules are to wear long pants and closed shoes in lab so that you don't hurt yourself if there's an accident. We hold the undergraduate students that work for us to these rules, but a fellow graduate student just walked out of lab in short shorts and flip flops. What a great example she's setting. Ugh. 

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  • imagesassenma:
    I have no kids yet, but I totally judge parents who let their kids run around restaurants/restaurant patios.  Seriously.  We were out to dinner the other night and were eating on the patio, and a huge group of adults and their kids had finished eating, and the adults were nursing their margaritas and talking while their 5 small children were running around the patio area.  They almost tripped several waiters who were carrying heavy trays, and they were just generally pretty disruptive.  I get that you want to go out to dinner with your kids, but I also think people need to accept that you can't necessarily have the same lingering dinners when you are out with kids.  It really, really annoyed me. 

    I completely agree. If we take DD out (which we have always done frequently in order to reinforce appropriate restaurant behavior) we know that we aren't going to be sitting there for 2-3 hours like we might with just each other or a group of friends. We don't rush our meal but we are conscious that she has a time limit. Also, I have never allowed her to get down from the table in a restaurant. Sometimes when we go out with my large immediate family and the meal is taking a long time one of us or an aunt or uncle will take her outside to run around while we wait but not inside.

    Not that we haven't had our share of meltdowns (we have - esp around age 2!) but if the meal is going badly we will either take turns taking her outside or ask for our food to go. It is not ideal but it at least keeps the peace for the other diners.

    I bet this is not as unpopular as you might think!  

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    imageiadanza:

    Going along with the welfare post...

    It makes me SO stabby when people on welfare/food stamps/ Medicaid have 60 inch top of the line flat screen TV's or iPhones or other expensive electronic things that I consider a bonus and I work my ass off to afford.  Why can't they spend that money on their damn food instead of the government giving my tax dollars to feed them?

    Yes

    YES. YES. YES. Or have their hair and nails freshly done...I'm sorry, but I consider those luxuries. I didn't realize you couldn't afford food but you could afford those highlights you think make you look 10 years younger. Oh, and FYI? They don't.

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    imagebellre:
    Mine: I know this may not actually be as unpopular as other posts we've seen in the past, but...if I have to get drug tested for my job and get fired if I start pissing dirty, I think welfare recipients (or any type of gov't assistance...unemployment, etc) should have to do the same thing and lose benefits if they can't pass a UA.

    Because, yes.  Denying a child milk and cheese because her crackhead mom can't stay clean solves all of the problems of the world. 

    Well then maybe those kids should be in the care of someone who CAN stay clean

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    imageAadensMommy2010:
    imageiadanza:

    Going along with the welfare post...

    It makes me SO stabby when people on welfare/food stamps/ Medicaid have 60 inch top of the line flat screen TV's or iPhones or other expensive electronic things that I consider a bonus and I work my ass off to afford.  Why can't they spend that money on their damn food instead of the government giving my tax dollars to feed them?

    Yes

    YES. YES. YES. Or have their hair and nails freshly done...I'm sorry, but I consider those luxuries. I didn't realize you couldn't afford food but you could afford those highlights you think make you look 10 years younger. Oh, and FYI? They don't.

    Andplusalso, birth control.  I think they should be REQUIRED to be on birth control in order to receive government assistance.  If you can't afford to feed yourself and instead I'm feeding you and paying for your medical costs, then you shouldn't be allowed to have any more children until you can do all this on your own.

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    imageiadanza:
    I hate it when people say I can't wait to meet my unborn child.  I get why they say it but I mean, you're growing him/her, WTF do you mean you can't wait to meet them?

    I picture them formally introducing themselves after baby comes out and some sort of hand shake happening. 

    I read this and had to run to the bathroom I almost peed my pants from laughing. Now I can picture people shaking hands with their babies and all in my head.  

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    imagesassenma:
    I have no kids yet, but I totally judge parents who let their kids run around restaurants/restaurant patios.  Seriously.  We were out to dinner the other night and were eating on the patio, and a huge group of adults and their kids had finished eating, and the adults were nursing their margaritas and talking while their 5 small children were running around the patio area.  They almost tripped several waiters who were carrying heavy trays, and they were just generally pretty disruptive.  I get that you want to go out to dinner with your kids, but I also think people need to accept that you can't necessarily have the same lingering dinners when you are out with kids.  It really, really annoyed me. 

    I completely agree. If we take DD out (which we have always done frequently in order to reinforce appropriate restaurant behavior) we know that we aren't going to be sitting there for 2-3 hours like we might with just each other or a group of friends. We don't rush our meal but we are conscious that she has a time limit. Also, I have never allowed her to get down from the table in a restaurant. Sometimes when we go out with my large immediate family and the meal is taking a long time one of us or an aunt or uncle will take her outside to run around while we wait but not inside.

    Not that we haven't had our share of meltdowns (we have - esp around age 2!) but if the meal is going badly we will either take turns taking her outside or ask for our food to go. It is not ideal but it at least keeps the peace for the other diners.

    I bet this is not as unpopular as you might think!  

    This is us too.  Seriously - going out to eat is such a PITA now.  I keep saying that we're done going but then someone will invite us out and we say "ok, we'll give it one more try" but holy moly, it's exhausting.  Usually my H and I have to take turns eating while the other one chases Aaden or tried to keep him entertained.  I'm exhausted just thinking about it.
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  • My UO today is that I hate moving we move this week and I hate it I am just about on bed rest and can't do anything and feel like I am more of a bother than a help.

    Oh and my other is I received 3 baby shower invitations for the SAME MTB please tell me this woman does not expect me to be at all three of her showers for her 4th child and her older children are 6, 4, 2 really really???

    Sorry ladies cranky today =( 

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  • My UO - you all need to stop these threads.  It makes me think less of most all of you b/c most (not all) of you sound like you're lacking compassion. 
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  • imageMyreppboys:

    My UO today is that I hate moving we move this week and I hate it I am just about on bed rest and can't do anything and feel like I am more of a bother than a help.

    Oh and my other is I received 3 baby shower invitations for the SAME MTB please tell me this woman does not expect me to be at all three of her showers for her 4th child and her older children are 6, 4, 2 really really???

    Sorry ladies cranky today =( 

    I'd decline all three of those shizzles.  Holy gift-grabby. 

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    imageMyreppboys:

    My UO today is that I hate moving we move this week and I hate it I am just about on bed rest and can't do anything and feel like I am more of a bother than a help.

    Oh and my other is I received 3 baby shower invitations for the SAME MTB please tell me this woman does not expect me to be at all three of her showers for her 4th child and her older children are 6, 4, 2 really really???

    Sorry ladies cranky today =( 

    I'd decline all three of those shizzles.  Holy gift-grabby. 

    That's what I thought, and just because I was curious I pulled up her registry, and yep she registered for EVERYTHING from crib to bottles. Her youngest will be 2 in August and I went to that shower and she got brand new stuff then. I am just shaking my head I think its just so wrong.

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  • imageAadensMommy2010:
    imageiadanza:

    Going along with the welfare post...

    It makes me SO stabby when people on welfare/food stamps/ Medicaid have 60 inch top of the line flat screen TV's or iPhones or other expensive electronic things that I consider a bonus and I work my ass off to afford.  Why can't they spend that money on their damn food instead of the government giving my tax dollars to feed them?

    Yes

    Totally agree!

  • imageRockyMtnMama:
    My UO - you all need to stop these threads.  It makes me think less of most all of you b/c most (not all) of you sound like you're lacking compassion. 

    Or you could just stop reading them if it upsets you that much? Perhaps we feel like the system is broken and it's unfair that we have to pay for many people who abuse it.  Obviously not everyone does, but there is a very large amount of people who do.

    Also, opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one and you don't have to like what other's opinions are.  Just sayin...

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  • imageiadanza:

    imageRockyMtnMama:
    My UO - you all need to stop these threads.  It makes me think less of most all of you b/c most (not all) of you sound like you're lacking compassion. 

    Or you could just stop reading them if it upsets you that much? Perhaps we feel like the system is broken and it's unfair that we have to pay for many people who abuse it.  Obviously not everyone does, but there is a very large amount of people who do.

    Also, opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one and you don't have to like what other's opinions are.  Just sayin...

    Thank you "iadanza" I was trying to word something without being very rude but I think you said it WAY better than I would of.  

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  • imageMyreppboys:

    Thank you "iadanza" I was trying to word something without being very rude but I think you said it WAY better than I would of.  

    I had a hard time not saying something incredibly snarky myself.  I'll keep it up my sleeve though, just because I too am feeling cranky today.

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  • imageiadanza:
    imageMyreppboys:

    Thank you "iadanza" I was trying to word something without being very rude but I think you said it WAY better than I would of.  

    I had a hard time not saying something incredibly snarky myself.  I'll keep it up my sleeve though, just because I too am feeling cranky today.

    Pretty sure the title of the thread is Unpopular Opinions, so, you know, there's that.

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  • Mine is that I get tired of hearing about some lawsuits that are stemming from people's lack of personal responsibility.  There's a lawsuit right now in my city that the parents of 4 adults who died in an accident after drinking at a bar.  They are suing the bar for serving them alcohol past intoxication...they were 28 YOs who went to a bar and drank, then got into a car with a drunk driver.  Shouldn't they know better than to do this, and that it's risking their lives to do so?  Why should the bar have to financially pay back the parents all the future earnings of their adult children?  Isn't the point of going to a bar for most people is to get drunk?  If you're not responsible enough to call a cab and get into a car and endanger your life and others (in your car and also other drivers on the road), how is it NOT YOUR FAULT?!?  I get if you are falling down drunk, then a bartender would refuse to serve you--but otherwise...And is a lawsuit and possibly some money going to make you feel better about losing a loved one?  In a case like this, I just shake my head...
  • DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.
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  • imagemrsmklynch:
    DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.

    We did this last year, we have Christmas in December then a birthday in Jan, Feb, and March. All of our guests thought this was suck a great idea. One month we donated to the Ronald McDonald house, the next it was a mother's and children's shelter, and the last one was to March of Dimes. My kids have already asked if they can do it again this year.  

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  • imagemrsmklynch:
    DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.

    I'm not really sure how the whole toy thing works with charities, but, if they have some gently used toys could you donate some of the old toys to any children's charities or, like, the YMCA?  You could have them donate 1 old toy for every new toy they got, that way they are still helping others but are also not, for lack of a better description, missing out on their own birthday presents. Just a thought but it might be a win win if you can do something like that?

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    imageiadanza:

    imageRockyMtnMama:
    My UO - you all need to stop these threads.  It makes me think less of most all of you b/c most (not all) of you sound like you're lacking compassion. 

    Or you could just stop reading them if it upsets you that much? Perhaps we feel like the system is broken and it's unfair that we have to pay for many people who abuse it.  Obviously not everyone does, but there is a very large amount of people who do.

    Also, opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one and you don't have to like what other's opinions are.  Just sayin...

    Sorry, but I'm feeling extra snarky today. Sooo...once you get off your high horse, let us know. Until then, I'm with iadanza...don't read these threads if we all bother you that much. 

    ETA: andplusalso, I'm okay if you think less of me because what I say on these threads...you know, being that we are internet strangers and all.

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  • imageMyreppboys:

    imagemrsmklynch:
    DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.

    We did this last year, we have Christmas in December then a birthday in Jan, Feb, and March. All of our guests thought this was suck a great idea. One month we donated to the Ronald McDonald house, the next it was a mother's and children's shelter, and the last one was to March of Dimes. My kids have already asked if they can do it again this year.  

    Sorry that was supposed to say "such" not suck oh I need to walk away from the computer for awhile. Sorry ladies.  

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  • imageMyreppboys:

    imagemrsmklynch:
    DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.

    We did this last year, we have Christmas in December then a birthday in Jan, Feb, and March. All of our guests thought this was suck a great idea. One month we donated to the Ronald McDonald house, the next it was a mother's and children's shelter, and the last one was to March of Dimes. My kids have already asked if they can do it again this year.  

    That's so awesome! We've done this on a small scale just by donating a few of the gifts DS got that I knew he wouldn't like or play with. I let him make the final decision and he was excited to do it and told everyone all about it. He was so proud of himself. I think he'd be thrilled to be able to donate toys to other kids and DD really is too young to care either way. I think I'll bring it up again.

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  • imageiadanza:

    imagemrsmklynch:
    DD's birthday is a month away, DS's birthday is in November, then it will be Christmas and right in the middle of it all, we'll be having another baby. My house is already chock-full of toys and crap as it is (our attic is also full of the overflow of toys), so I suggested to DH that we encourage people to donate to a charity of their choice in lieu of buying our kids more stuff (DS's bday falls around the time when Toys for Tots boxes are out so I thought that would be a good idea). He shot me down telling me that no one would go for that and it wouldn't be fair to the kids. Really? I think the 5-10 gifts we get them ourselves would be more than enough. I'd prefer not to raise spoiled. greedy brats, but rather children who understand and enjoy the concept of giving to the less fortunate.

    I'm not really sure how the whole toy thing works with charities, but, if they have some gently used toys could you donate some of the old toys to any children's charities or, like, the YMCA?  You could have them donate 1 old toy for every new toy they got, that way they are still helping others but are also not, for lack of a better description, missing out on their own birthday presents. Just a thought but it might be a win win if you can do something like that?

    I like this idea too!  All of these are very thoughtful and honorable, I think! 
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     My UO is I think strict dress codes at offices are stupid. I work somewhere where I can wear shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops every day. I'm so thankful for it. I sit at a cube all day and very very rarely have meetings with people outside our office. I think this should be in place of all work environments. DH has to dress up for work - but again, doesn't deal with anyone outside of his office. Don't understand that.

    I totally agree with this.  I sit in a cube, in a corner, the entire 7.5 hours I'm here.  The only exception is when I have to go to court 3 times a month and of course I'll dress appropriately for that.  However, I work for the state and I can already hear the old ladies cluck-clucking about how our appearance represents the state yadda, yadda, so it's highly unlikely things will change.  I have a pair of ON flipflops that I change into while I'm sitting at my desk.  It's my own small rebellion. 

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    imagemeganole25:

     My UO is I think strict dress codes at offices are stupid. I work somewhere where I can wear shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops every day. I'm so thankful for it. I sit at a cube all day and very very rarely have meetings with people outside our office. I think this should be in place of all work environments. DH has to dress up for work - but again, doesn't deal with anyone outside of his office. Don't understand that.

    I totally agree with this.  I sit in a cube, in a corner, the entire 7.5 hours I'm here.  The only exception is when I have to go to court 3 times a month and of course I'll dress appropriately for that.  However, I work for the state and I can already hear the old ladies cluck-clucking about how our appearance represents the state yadda, yadda, so it's highly unlikely things will change.  I have a pair of ON flipflops that I change into while I'm sitting at my desk.  It's my own small rebellion. 

    I live off small rebellions such as these... mine is being on here at work (we aren't allowed) and wearing flip flops as well. AT THE SAME TIME!!!! Surprise

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  • imagemayaruth81:
    Mine is that I get tired of hearing about some lawsuits that are stemming from people's lack of personal responsibility.  There's a lawsuit right now in my city that the parents of 4 adults who died in an accident after drinking at a bar.  They are suing the bar for serving them alcohol past intoxication...they were 28 YOs who went to a bar and drank, then got into a car with a drunk driver.  Shouldn't they know better than to do this, and that it's risking their lives to do so?  Why should the bar have to financially pay back the parents all the future earnings of their adult children?  Isn't the point of going to a bar for most people is to get drunk?  If you're not responsible enough to call a cab and get into a car and endanger your life and others (in your car and also other drivers on the road), how is it NOT YOUR FAULT?!?  I get if you are falling down drunk, then a bartender would refuse to serve you--but otherwise...And is a lawsuit and possibly some money going to make you feel better about losing a loved one?  In a case like this, I just shake my head...

    I am so with you on this!  There's a case in my city right now.  A 17 year old girl was on an island with 3 boys at 4 in the morning.  They were breaking into fish camps and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down.  Some guys heard a noise at a neighboring fish camp and came down to investigate.  One of them fired a warning shot and it killed the girl.  Tragic, yes.  Were the guys at fault?  Yes - a warning shot shouldn't have been fired in that direction in the first place. But.... her parents are now suing the property owner (who wasn't even there that night) for a million dollars.  They also named the three neighbor guys and the Marine Police in their lawsuit.  I am so angry about this.  The property owner is now being sued because these 4 punk kids broke into his fish camp to steal his property.  This will probably ruin his life and he had nothing to do with any of it.  I just find that insane. 


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    imagemayaruth81:
    Mine is that I get tired of hearing about some lawsuits that are stemming from people's lack of personal responsibility.  There's a lawsuit right now in my city that the parents of 4 adults who died in an accident after drinking at a bar.  They are suing the bar for serving them alcohol past intoxication...they were 28 YOs who went to a bar and drank, then got into a car with a drunk driver.  Shouldn't they know better than to do this, and that it's risking their lives to do so?  Why should the bar have to financially pay back the parents all the future earnings of their adult children?  Isn't the point of going to a bar for most people is to get drunk?  If you're not responsible enough to call a cab and get into a car and endanger your life and others (in your car and also other drivers on the road), how is it NOT YOUR FAULT?!?  I get if you are falling down drunk, then a bartender would refuse to serve you--but otherwise...And is a lawsuit and possibly some money going to make you feel better about losing a loved one?  In a case like this, I just shake my head...

    I am so with you on this!  There's a case in my city right now.  A 17 year old girl was on an island with 3 boys at 4 in the morning.  They were breaking into fish camps and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down.  Some guys heard a noise at a neighboring fish camp and came down to investigate.  One of them fired a warning shot and it killed the girl.  Tragic, yes.  Were the guys at fault?  Yes - a warning shot shouldn't have been fired in that direction in the first place. But.... her parents are now suing the property owner (who wasn't even there that night) for a million dollars.  They also named the three neighbor guys and the Marine Police in their lawsuit.  I am so angry about this.  The property owner is now being sued because these 4 punk kids broke into his fish camp to steal his property.  This will probably ruin his life and he had nothing to do with any of it.  I just find that insane. 

    This is insane.

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  • I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.
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  • imageSarahW44:
    My unpopular opinion is that I feel that procedures need to be put in place to take away the licenses of elderly drivers when they become unsafe. In the past week in my state there have been three accidents related to elderly drivers that luckily were not as bad as they could have been. In one of them an elderly driver lost control and crashed into a garage, in another instance an elderly driver backed out of the handicap spot in a grocery store parking lot, hit another car, and then drove his car into the entrance of the store, and the the third incident involved an elderly driver going to wrong way down the interstate.

    Yes!  Seriously I feared for my life a couple times when my grandfather drove me around.  My parents agonized over making them sell their cars and stop driving (they moved to a loosely assisted care apartments) but they did it.  I think it would be so much easier if there were more policies in place to test/restrict driving of the elderly. 

    And yes, one day I hope they take away my license too when I'm too old and stubborn to realize its time to give it up.

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  • imageNicksChick!:
    I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.

    NicksChick! I think you could make a boatload on creating a permanent, non-removable condom!  And to answer your question, we could never force people to take birth control--there would be some serious backlash that would center around infringement of rights--it's more of a pipe dream really.

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  • imageamy052006:

    imageNicksChick!:
    I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.

    Not to mention, no one wants to think about how UNGODLY EXPENSIVE it would be to drug test all welfare recipients, or to supply them all with birth control and then monitor it uses.

    My OU?  The whole "I am so tired of paying for people blah blah blah" come off as extremely bitter and uneducated.  I can't imagine carrying around that mindset -- frankly I am quite happy just paying my taxes and living my life without stewing over some free cheese some woman in a much shitter situation than me might get, even if she doesn't deserve it.

    that kind of bitter resentment just seems like an exhausting way to live -- always worrying about what someone is getting that you aren't.

    We live in a civilized society -- part of that is paying for things you don't want or don't believe in order to keep everything running. 

     

    I don't think it's bitter OR uneducated to feel frustrated with a broken system.  I don't think it's right that people work their @sses off to pay to put a roof over their family's head and struggle while some receive assistance from the government and completely exploit it. Again, not all people do this but there is a good handful that do and make a bad name for this population.  Just because we are annoyed with something doesn't make us uneducated.  I know I for one am not uneducated and am frustrated with the system.  Additionally, I know for a fact bellre & Aadensmommy are not either, so not too sure where you come up with the 'uneducated' comment??

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    imageamy052006:

    imageNicksChick!:
    I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.

    Not to mention, no one wants to think about how UNGODLY EXPENSIVE it would be to drug test all welfare recipients, or to supply them all with birth control and then monitor it uses.

    My OU?  The whole "I am so tired of paying for people blah blah blah" come off as extremely bitter and uneducated.  I can't imagine carrying around that mindset -- frankly I am quite happy just paying my taxes and living my life without stewing over some free cheese some woman in a much shitter situation than me might get, even if she doesn't deserve it.

    that kind of bitter resentment just seems like an exhausting way to live -- always worrying about what someone is getting that you aren't.

    We live in a civilized society -- part of that is paying for things you don't want or don't believe in order to keep everything running. 

     

    Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? Just because some people may not like how the system is, it doesn't mean they are "stewing" over it. I can be annoyed by it without all the bitter resentment.

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    imageamy052006:

    imageNicksChick!:
    I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.

    Not to mention, no one wants to think about how UNGODLY EXPENSIVE it would be to drug test all welfare recipients, or to supply them all with birth control and then monitor it uses.

    My OU?  The whole "I am so tired of paying for people blah blah blah" come off as extremely bitter and uneducated.  I can't imagine carrying around that mindset -- frankly I am quite happy just paying my taxes and living my life without stewing over some free cheese some woman in a much shitter situation than me might get, even if she doesn't deserve it.

    that kind of bitter resentment just seems like an exhausting way to live -- always worrying about what someone is getting that you aren't.

    We live in a civilized society -- part of that is paying for things you don't want or don't believe in order to keep everything running. 

     

    I don't think it's bitter OR uneducated to feel frustrated with a broken system.  I don't think it's right that people work their @sses off to pay to put a roof over their family's head and struggle while some receive assistance from the government and completely exploit it. Again, not all people do this but there is a good handful that do and make a bad name for this population.  Just because we are annoyed with something doesn't make us uneducated.  I know I for one am not uneducated and am frustrated with the system.  Additionally, I know for a fact bellre & Aadensmommy are not either, so not too sure where you come up with the 'uneducated' comment??

    Aaaand that's why I love you, iadanza.

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  • New UO for today: I hate the way people always throw out "ignorant" or "uneducated" to describe people who do not share their beliefs.

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    imageSarahW44:
    My unpopular opinion is that I feel that procedures need to be put in place to take away the licenses of elderly drivers when they become unsafe. In the past week in my state there have been three accidents related to elderly drivers that luckily were not as bad as they could have been. In one of them an elderly driver lost control and crashed into a garage, in another instance an elderly driver backed out of the handicap spot in a grocery store parking lot, hit another car, and then drove his car into the entrance of the store, and the the third incident involved an elderly driver going to wrong way down the interstate.

    Absolutely.  You're not from CT, are you?  We had an 81-year old make it 3 miles down the wrong side of the interstate about a week or so ago. 

     

    My brother was killed in a car accident involving an 82 year old man.  I feel VERY strongly about this!! People complain about 16 year olds being terrible drivers and getting provisional drivers license but I think older people are worse!  



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  • imagebellre:
    imageamy052006:

    imageNicksChick!:
    I get frustrated when abuse the system, too, but I can't figure out for the life of me how required birth control would be enforced.... It would be a good idea to make sure people have access to BC. If it's a man, is there some kind of permanent, non-removable condom I'm not aware of? ;) or are we just going to stab all the women with depo because forcing them to take a pill everyday seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive about BC and missing an obvious option though. Eta- sorry for lack of paragraphs, on my iPad.

    Not to mention, no one wants to think about how UNGODLY EXPENSIVE it would be to drug test all welfare recipients, or to supply them all with birth control and then monitor it uses.

    My OU?  The whole "I am so tired of paying for people blah blah blah" come off as extremely bitter and uneducated.  I can't imagine carrying around that mindset -- frankly I am quite happy just paying my taxes and living my life without stewing over some free cheese some woman in a much shitter situation than me might get, even if she doesn't deserve it.

    that kind of bitter resentment just seems like an exhausting way to live -- always worrying about what someone is getting that you aren't.

    We live in a civilized society -- part of that is paying for things you don't want or don't believe in order to keep everything running. 

     

    Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? Just because some people may not like how the system is, it doesn't mean they are "stewing" over it. I can be annoyed by it without all the bitter resentment.

    This.

    Isn't there a saying..."if you're not angry, you're not paying attention"?? 

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    imageSarahW44:
    My unpopular opinion is that I feel that procedures need to be put in place to take away the licenses of elderly drivers when they become unsafe. In the past week in my state there have been three accidents related to elderly drivers that luckily were not as bad as they could have been. In one of them an elderly driver lost control and crashed into a garage, in another instance an elderly driver backed out of the handicap spot in a grocery store parking lot, hit another car, and then drove his car into the entrance of the store, and the the third incident involved an elderly driver going to wrong way down the interstate.

    Absolutely.  You're not from CT, are you?  We had an 81-year old make it 3 miles down the wrong side of the interstate about a week or so ago. 

     

    My brother was killed in a car accident involving an 82 year old man.  I feel VERY strongly about this!! People complain about 16 year olds being terrible drives and getting provisional drivers license but I think older people are worse!  

    I'm so sorry for your loss.
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