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Maybe I'm being judgmental but...
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Re: Maybe I'm being judgmental but...
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Jesus Chr!st. There are a TON of assumptions and pretty catty judgements going on in this thread. I hope there are enough Ivory Towers available for everyone!
First of all, who CARES if someone spends $50 bucks on Easter Candy? Perhaps that's the only time of year apart from Halloween that family indulges in candy. Why is it ANY of your business? Hooray for you that you have lived your life practically perfect in every way, Mary Poppins. No need for you to trouble yourself with anyone else's habits. good or bad.
Also, I make a living writing and strategizing for Shopper Marketing. Stores label and communicate according to seasonality and shopper trends. They're not going to label the "real food aisle" EBT because most folks on assistance know that section is covered. That assertion comes from Market Research. If this is the FIRST YEAR they're honoring EBT, especially during a high candy selling season, OF COURSE they're going to scream about candy. It's not a philosophical flaw on the store's part. It's just common sense. It's Marketing 101. Nothing more, nothing less. Next month, once Easter is over, they will move the EBT signs somewhere else.
:::DIES::: See? If they would have purchased this instead and stuck it in thier kids baskets we wouldn't be having this conversation!
I do totally agree!!! my friend sent me this article yesterday:
High-Fructose Corn Syrup "Prompts Considerably More Weight Gain" than Sugar High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has been a whipping boy of late for its heavily processed origins (prompting a campaign about how natural it is), but it's much worse than that: Princeton researchers find that HFCS has a significant tie to obesity.
Have you seen King Corn? it's a great documentary on the corn industry. Food Inc. was also great. We watched both in my food policy class last year.
well said..
well said..
Oh hell no! The vinegar is used to increase the coloring when dying eggs. They better not let their kids dye eggs for Easter!!
Well if mom takes what little paycheck she gets and uses it to buy cigarettes and booze while the govt is paying her rent and feeding her kids I question whether she needs financial assistance, or assistance making better financial decisions.
Bar tab = $156,000, Bus to Foxwoods = $0, Puking in the Stanley Cup = Priceless
Hold on...so you thnk that people qualified for Section 8 Housing AND foodstamps while needing neither. They just chose to live in Section 8 because of the high standard of living they provide?
Really? Have you ever heard of Goodwill? Consignment stores? Garage sales? Freecycle? Hamidowns?
I've gotten lots of stuff in pristine condition from those kinds of places. Crazy.
I don't know Wisconsin regs, but I know where I am, foodstamps cannot be used for cigarettes or alcohol.
As for your last sentence, that might be one of few things I agree w/ you on.
Uhh.. offensive much?
I question it when these people have extended "visitors" in their homes whose income isn't counted, and spend money on going on trips and take out food and cigs by the carton...but they only have to pay $25 of their rent???
Bar tab = $156,000, Bus to Foxwoods = $0, Puking in the Stanley Cup = Priceless
This is y I said I think it should be liek WIC. Since they don't alwasy have the knowledge of what to buy. You get x#of cereal and sugary ones aren't covered, so much meat, chix, fresh produce, milk products, ect. Then you go to th egrocery with a check list and come out with good healthy food for ou and your family. If it is something they are "tarined to do" by being in the system liek you stated all the more reason to change the system! It shoudl not be a lifetime ability to use as well as either way it is for needs only. Sorry, I want a lot of things but don't have the money for them. There are plenty of churches and other programs out there that you can sign your kid up on for an easter basket, or an easter hunt, or whatever where they can get some candy
my taxes shoudn't be paying for it.
::Head Desk::
We have a couple new ones!
No take out for poor people!
No trips for poor people!
Um, everyone knows the poor don't live in Section 8 Housing anymore. They squat in foreclosed McMansions.
The two sinks in the master baths are fabulous for making meth.
If you're trying to say the store is being ridiculous...I have to laugh. They're just accentuating items that people may not know are covered by food stamps. I would assume most people know milk and eggs would be covered...but if I walk in to buy these items and happen to go down the candy aisle and see these signs it might come as a pleasant surprise. And if I'm on food stamps and I can buy my kid (or myself) a cadbury creme egg for Easter, that's alright with me!
this is VERY true. it costs MORE to eat while homeless, but of course they also get LESS in food stamps because they aren't paying rent/utilities (storage units do not count as rent)...while we can buy a huge box of something - a value item - they buy everything single-serving. a pint of milk daily instead of a gallon costs so much more when you add up up the cost of the amount of pints to = a gallon. buying anything works this way. granola bars individually vs. an 8-pack.
I understand how they regulate who gets what, but the EBT system isn't set up to figure in a homeless persons expenses. even like state disability in MA - last I checked, a homeless person was given $92/mo. a "housed" person was given $340. (I'm sure this has slightly gone up). but the homeless person has different expenses - like food.
or they are told, "why don't you eat at the shelter." I don't think many of these people get that shelters for adults often close during the day. and meals served there may contain allergens, or simply might not be appealing on a given day.
I think the salad bars at a lot of grocery stores aren't EBT-able (so I'm told). or prepared food. for a housed person, thats understandable. for a homeless person, they lose access to healthy food already cooked.
but this is an entirely separate issue. and it doesn't take much to end up homeless. I think statistics are that the average American is 1-2 paychecks away from homelessness. you can save all the money you want, but it doesn't take much to lose it. a fire. sudden illness or disability. death in the family, etc. stuff like that could happen to ANYONE.
"This ribbon has been reported." - lovesnina
This is y I said I think it should be liek WIC. Since they don't alwasy have the knowledge of what to buy. You get x#of cereal and sugary ones aren't covered, so much meat, chix, fresh produce, milk products, ect. Then you go to th egrocery with a check list and come out with good healthy food for ou and your family.
And this is Y I say you are a tool. Did you go through a nutrition program when you were getting ready to procreate? Do you have shopping lists created for you by people who think because you are poor, you are stupid? Are you banned from picking up sugary cereal for your kid?
No?
I'm legitimately interested in what you mean here. Are you saying I'm not aware of generational poverty issues, or that's it's an excuse...I'm not sure what you're implying.
Bar tab = $156,000, Bus to Foxwoods = $0, Puking in the Stanley Cup = Priceless
I suspect that HFCS is indeed a health hazard, but the study you cited certainly doesn't prove it. It was poorly designed and controlled. In fact, rats that had free access to HFCS weighed less than those that only had access to it 12 hours a day.
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/03/high-fructose-corn-syrup-hfcs-sugar-princeton-study.html
I am a runner, knitter, scientist, DE-IVF veteran, and stage III colon cancer survivor.
Their life sounds super glamourous. People crammed into a section 8 apartment with cartons of take out food and cigarettes. bet you wish you could trade places with those folks huh?
I don't have much to say on this debate except to say that this comment, Pixy, was COMPLETELY uncalled for. OP has a physical disability - which is something completely out of her control. People on food stamps DO have control over their situation.
HUGE difference.
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oh SBP, I love you. the bolded part made me choke on my water.
You are very niave. Plenty are on food stamps for things outside of their control. I hope its something you never face, but it happens a lot. Especially now in this economy.
Absolutely. If poor people would just go out and get high paying jobs with health insurance and child care they wouldn't need food stamps. Duh.
I am a runner, knitter, scientist, DE-IVF veteran, and stage III colon cancer survivor.
Totally, 100% agree.
Here is your stupid card.
No I do not think they understand that. I really really don't.
Clearly all poor people should pull themselves up by their bootstraps because it is the American way, and they should find themselves high paying jobs. There is clearly an abundance of those in this wonderful economy, right?
You should really just shut your mouth. I hope to god that you never experience what it is like to feel your heart drop into your stomach when you hear that you are losing your job. Or the worry and stress that never leaves your thoughts every single day, wondering how you are going to properly feed your family or afford going to the doctor or a million other things.
Like Lanie said, here's your stupid card.
Ditto Irish. This is part of the problem - that way of thinking. People who are on food stamps and other government assistance are usually part of a cycle of poverty and its VERY hard to break out of it. some people do, sure. But it's very hard. And even besides that - like Irish said - people need assistance for things beyond their control (such as out of control medical bills because your husband's cancer is a pre-existing condition and the insurance company won't cover him? Or if, heaven forbid, your H dies and you have never worked outside the home and now you have no income, etc. There are lots of reasons people use food stamps, WIC, etc. Not all of those reasons are within their control.)
So you know how to find decent wages for the 16% of my state's population currently receiving food stamps? That's awesome. I'm sure they'll appreciate your tips.
I feel like in 15 seconds someone is going to tell someone that McDonalds is hiring. We're *this* close. Whoooooo's ig going to be?
This. I know several families that the parents both work but they can't afford to make ends meet. In some cases, the cost of childcare eats a good chunk of their income, in other cases they may have high rent, high medical expenses, or high costs of other things needed for survival.
They may have had income that was livable to have kids when they conceived (so please don't say poor people shouldn't have kids!!!) but something as simple as a job loss left them in a lower-paying job... or a special needs kid unexpectedly could have cost them a good chunk of what was formerly their food budget.
I do understand generational poverty. I just feel that the assistance programs that are in place do not help people help themselves. I think a lot of people on here are missing my point. My sentiments aren't about the truly poor. My problems are with a flawed system that many people choose to take advantage of, and does not provide adequate resources to help people eventually become less dependent on said programs.
Bar tab = $156,000, Bus to Foxwoods = $0, Puking in the Stanley Cup = Priceless
Oh FFS.
I don't know if you've looked around lately, but a hell of a lot of people are struggling to put food on the table these days.
A few Cadbury Eggs and some Skittles so that their kids can have a sense of normalcy in their lives is fine with me. Jeezus.
Why do I feel like there are people in this thread who honestly have no idea how the food stamp/welfare system works?
My goodness. I'm a conservative Republican, and even I get it.
Gawd.
Some people are acting like the EBT signs were by the beer section. It isn't like the local package store is taking food stamps.
::Dead:: LMAO!!!