FFFC!

ATMmom324

I believe my boss is crazy and I hope she loses her job.  I hate to wish ill will on anyone but she is making us all miserable and I think she is having some type of mental issue.  She believes everything is a conspiracy and called in the IT people three times in the last month because she thinks we installed spy ware on her computer.  I invited several co workers who have Children around DDs age to her first birthday party.  My boss called us all into a meeting to tell us she knows it wasn't a real party just an excuse for us to plot against her.  Also in a 3 week period 2 people at work had their windshield wipers break.  Our boss went door to door accusing the neighbors of breaking them.  We notified the union but our union is useless.  As bad for her as I feel it is almost an adventure going into work daily to see the new crazy.

ibekatieg

scarlette+noir:

ibekatieg:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

 

Or learning from your habit.

I get it. Everyone is going to have their special situation and justify it. Fine. But I'm saying that I'm out there. Watching. Judging. 

You just made yourself sound like a stalker.

That's really dependent on whether you have a sense of humor or not. 

Bodoni

scarlette+noir:

I haven't taken a single prenatal vitamin this time around. I keep forgetting them. I also no longer have a script for my old one, which was Citranatal. They smelled like cupcakes! The kind I have in my drawer now are gross smelling over the counter ones, so I think I keep conveniently "forgetting" to take them.

Now I want a cupcake... 

roxyttandme

KellersPrag:

VineyardMel:

roxyttandme:

I'm wearing a long maxi dress today. No.panties.

Whatev'... 

Rox! How in the world do you go commando with all the pregnancy CM??

Seriously my thought, too. I have to change my underwear throughout the day (sometimes), I can't even imagine what would happen without panties.

Been living the life in the Sahara... No real moisture to speak of. Besides, I am peeing and wipping every couple hrs. I hate underwear!  

scarlette+noir

ibekatieg:

scarlette+noir:

ibekatieg:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

 

Or learning from your habit.

I get it. Everyone is going to have their special situation and justify it. Fine. But I'm saying that I'm out there. Watching. Judging. 

You just made yourself sound like a stalker.

That's really dependent on whether you have a sense of humor or not. 

I thought it was funny. I now picture you in a white, beat-up utility van, with a huge pair of square wire-frame glasses 

mrsbhk22

mlf625:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

Agreed. I also judge any parent who says their toddler "won't" go to bed until some ridic hour like 10pm. Who's in charge?!

 I can't stand kids at late movies or at the store at 9pm who are screaming because they are obviously exhausted (kids at R rated movies any time is just insane).  However, the "who's in charge" comment is a bit harsh. 

My DS#1 was always an awesome sleeper - very routine driven and would sleep 11-12 hrs a night as a toddler.  DS#2 has NEVER required that amount of sleep.  I still put him to bed every night at 815-830 and he stays in his bed and is quiet, but he rarely falls asleep before 930.  Our evenings slow down after dinner so it's not like he goes from a "dance party" to his bed.  He's up every morning around 7-730, happy as can be and fully rested.  His pedi has ZERO concerns about his sleep patterns or his development.

Kids are all different.  Maybe her kid doesn't need the same amount/timeframe of sleep as others.  Maybe her kid takes a longer nap during the day.  This is one of those things that are a waste of energy to be judgemental towards.

 Now if the kid was up until 2am every night.....that might be extreme. 

hunter91011

ATMmom324:

I believe my boss is crazy and I hope she loses her job.  I hate to wish ill will on anyone but she is making us all miserable and I think she is having some type of mental issue.  She believes everything is a conspiracy and called in the IT people three times in the last month because she thinks we installed spy ware on her computer.  I invited several co workers who have Children around DDs age to her first birthday party.  My boss called us all into a meeting to tell us she knows it wasn't a real party just an excuse for us to plot against her.  Also in a 3 week period 2 people at work had their windshield wipers break.  Our boss went door to door accusing the neighbors of breaking them.  We notified the union but our union is useless.  As bad for her as I feel it is almost an adventure going into work daily to see the new crazy.

I completely relate to this.  I had a boss who no longer liked her job, called out all the time, would get the schedule approved and then change it, leave her responsibilities to everyone else.  When the rest of the managers, and associates got fed up and started being upset with her, she thought we were all against her.  She was all like "I can't believe I have worked with all of you for so long, and now you are sabotaging me"...umm no, we aren't sabotaging you, you are doing it to yourself.  We starting tracking everything iffy that she did, and then one of the other managers called HR and turned her in.  When they came to "investigate" in store, she wasn't even there! even though the schedule had her working!  AHH....I had to call her and tell her she was needed at the store ASAP, and they told her they would either fire her, or force her to resign.  Her choice.  She resigned.

bosses can be crazy! 

damabo80

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

Why 8p? DD is no where even close to tired at 8p. Neither am I, for that matter.

So why is 8p the magic number? And, who says the baby has to go to sleep in a crib? DD sleeps many times in the ergo. Unless you care to bash in the AP lifestyle where babies have to sleep in their own room, in their own crib.... 

damabo80

scarlette+noir:

roxyttandme:

I'm wearing a long maxi dress today. No.panties.

Whatev'... 

Careful of the vagina sweats!

Dont fan your vag!!!! Whatever you do, no fanning of the vag!

My FFFC, I guess. I could never go commando. I amiss too much and would have pee dribbling down my legs constantly.  

VineyardMel

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I grew up in Texas (not an area with storm cellars) and we always learned to go to an interior bathroom, get in the tub and cover with a mattress. I've never heard of going into the crawl space--that's not to say it's not a bad idea, but the creepy crawlies would ick me out, too!

brideandbreve

damabo80:

scarlette+noir:

roxyttandme:

I'm wearing a long maxi dress today. No.panties.

Whatev'... 

Careful of the vagina sweats!

Dont fan your vag!!!! Whatever you do, no fanning of the vag!

My FFFC, I guess. I could never go commando. I amiss too much and would have pee dribbling down my legs constantly.  

Thank you. I was hoping someone would be sure to warn her.

ibekatieg

damabo80:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

Why 8p? DD is no where even close to tired at 8p. Neither am I, for that matter.

So why is 8p the magic number? And, who says the baby has to go to sleep in a crib? DD sleeps many times in the ergo. Unless you care to bash in the AP lifestyle where babies have to sleep in their own room, in their own crib.... 

Simple.

Babies (once sleeping regularly through the night) need 10-12 hours of sleep a night. This is through age 3 or so.

So bedtime is variable; however, to me after 8PM baby/toddler should be at home, winding down in preparation for bed, no matter the bed time, (ETA: if not already asleep), in order to get those 10-12 hours. Being at the gym, store, restaurant where the lights are bright or the noise is loud is stimulating. 

No one said anything about AP or where they're sleeping.  

VineyardMel

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

VineyardMel:

I just can't wrap my brain around being disappointed/"not excited at all" because you're not getting the sex you want. So many people want and would be overjoyed to have healthy babies of either sex and then there are others who get upset about. It's not just you--my own SIL actually cried when she found out her second was a girl. It baffles me and, to borrow the expression used earlier, makes me want to punch kittens.

It baffles me that what others suffer through should influence how I (or others) react to what happens in our own lives. Because others cannot get pregnant or have suffered tragic losses, I'm not supposed to complain about my pregnancy. Because others have had premies who end up spending time in the NICU and struggling to survive, I can't say "OMG, I wish I could have this baby today!!" at the 35 week mark. 

This school of thought pisses.me.off. It's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect my emotions to be controlled by what goes on in the lives of others. Of course I feel terribly for people who have suffered, but what bearing does that have when I'm having a shiitty pregnancy day?

I'm guessing today might be one of those days? Complain away--doesn't change the fact that I think it's ridiculous to get upset because you're not having the sex you want (or to wish for a premie for that matter). I never said you're supposed to think pregnancy is fun or a cake walk, but I do think it's unfortunate when people take healthy pregnancies and healthy babies for granted.

ibekatieg

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

scarlette+noir:

ibekatieg:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

 

Or learning from your habit.

I get it. Everyone is going to have their special situation and justify it. Fine. But I'm saying that I'm out there. Watching. Judging. 

You just made yourself sound like a stalker.

Or just a total a-hole.

Wow. Harsh. Taking it a little personally? 

KellersPrag

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

VineyardMel:

I just can't wrap my brain around being disappointed/"not excited at all" because you're not getting the sex you want. So many people want and would be overjoyed to have healthy babies of either sex and then there are others who get upset about. It's not just you--my own SIL actually cried when she found out her second was a girl. It baffles me and, to borrow the expression used earlier, makes me want to punch kittens.

It baffles me that what others suffer through should influence how I (or others) react to what happens in our own lives. Because others cannot get pregnant or have suffered tragic losses, I'm not supposed to complain about my pregnancy. Because others have had premies who end up spending time in the NICU and struggling to survive, I can't say "OMG, I wish I could have this baby today!!" at the 35 week mark. 

This school of thought pisses.me.off. It's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect my emotions to be controlled by what goes on in the lives of others. Of course I feel terribly for people who have suffered, but what bearing does that have when I'm having a shiitty pregnancy day?

I really agree with this. I've been forming this opinion over the last few weeks, but I couldn't find a tasteful way to put it into words because I know that a lot of people are going to get angry over it. I really do feel terrible for people who have had (a) loss(es), of course, but I can still say that I hate throwing up every day.

It's not just pregnancy related, either - I don't understand the school of thought that I can't complain about anything in my life because someone, somewhere has it worse. OK, yes, it's awful that the people in Texas are cleaning up the remnants of their homes after the tornado... but can't I be upset that McDonald's messed up my order?!

KellersPrag

VineyardMel:

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

VineyardMel:

I just can't wrap my brain around being disappointed/"not excited at all" because you're not getting the sex you want. So many people want and would be overjoyed to have healthy babies of either sex and then there are others who get upset about. It's not just you--my own SIL actually cried when she found out her second was a girl. It baffles me and, to borrow the expression used earlier, makes me want to punch kittens.

It baffles me that what others suffer through should influence how I (or others) react to what happens in our own lives. Because others cannot get pregnant or have suffered tragic losses, I'm not supposed to complain about my pregnancy. Because others have had premies who end up spending time in the NICU and struggling to survive, I can't say "OMG, I wish I could have this baby today!!" at the 35 week mark. 

This school of thought pisses.me.off. It's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect my emotions to be controlled by what goes on in the lives of others. Of course I feel terribly for people who have suffered, but what bearing does that have when I'm having a shiitty pregnancy day?

I'm guessing today might be one of those days? Complain away--doesn't change the fact that I think it's ridiculous to get upset because you're not having the sex you want (or to wish for a premie for that matter). I never said you're supposed to think pregnancy is fun or a cake walk, but I do think it's unfortunate when people take healthy pregnancies and healthy babies for granted.

I think this is taking it a little far - complaining about being sick, or having a bad day, or wishing to not be uncomfortable anymore at 35 weeks (per PPs example), does not (usually) mean that someone is taking their pregnancy for granted. Being disappointed about the sex of the baby isn't taking it for granted either.

ibekatieg

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

ibekatieg:

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

scarlette+noir:

ibekatieg:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

 

Or learning from your habit.

I get it. Everyone is going to have their special situation and justify it. Fine. But I'm saying that I'm out there. Watching. Judging. 

You just made yourself sound like a stalker.

Or just a total a-hole.

Wow. Harsh. Taking it a little personally? 

Nah. Our kid's usually home around that time, and if she's not, it's because we're with family. And she doesn't fall asleep before 9 anyway. You thinking it makes me a bad mom doesn't bug me. You being a judgmental jerk about what others do with their children *does* bug me. But, y'know, it happens right and left, so it's not just you.

First, "watching, judging" is a famous Vince Vaughn quote from "Old School". I feel the need to tell you as you seem like the type who could use a laugh. Watch it.

And if it's happening left and right, please, by all means, be fair and start calling everyone on this board a jerk and a-hole who you take issue with. Be consistent.  

VineyardMel

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

VineyardMel:

LoveLossHopeRepeat:

VineyardMel:

I just can't wrap my brain around being disappointed/"not excited at all" because you're not getting the sex you want. So many people want and would be overjoyed to have healthy babies of either sex and then there are others who get upset about. It's not just you--my own SIL actually cried when she found out her second was a girl. It baffles me and, to borrow the expression used earlier, makes me want to punch kittens.

It baffles me that what others suffer through should influence how I (or others) react to what happens in our own lives. Because others cannot get pregnant or have suffered tragic losses, I'm not supposed to complain about my pregnancy. Because others have had premies who end up spending time in the NICU and struggling to survive, I can't say "OMG, I wish I could have this baby today!!" at the 35 week mark. 

This school of thought pisses.me.off. It's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect my emotions to be controlled by what goes on in the lives of others. Of course I feel terribly for people who have suffered, but what bearing does that have when I'm having a shiitty pregnancy day?

I'm guessing today might be one of those days? Complain away--doesn't change the fact that I think it's ridiculous to get upset because you're not having the sex you want (or to wish for a premie for that matter). I never said you're supposed to think pregnancy is fun or a cake walk, but I do think it's unfortunate when people take healthy pregnancies and healthy babies for granted.

Nope, I feel just dandy today, but thanks ever so for caring.

It's not just you who has expressed a similar line of thinking. I've seen it often, and it never fails to aggravate me. 

Being sad that you're having a boy instead of a girl, or complaining because you can't stop puking, or can't sleep, certainly doesn't mean one is taking their pregnancy for granted or isn't grateful for a (presumably) healthy child. It's a leap to go from one to the other.

Do you ever complain about anything? Because similar points could be made for ANYTHING one complains about. Bad day at work? PEOPLE ARE UNEMPLOYED! BE GRATEFUL! Husband didn't pick up his socks? THERE ARE WIDOWS OUT THERE! BE GRATEFUL! Toddler plucking your nerves with incessant whining? PEOPLE HAVE FERTILITY ISSUES! BE GLAD YOU HAVE A KID!

I get it. Some people are complainers, and it's annoying when you know someone personally who can't seem to find the good in life and is always droning on about the bad. But a random post on a message board about being sad to have a girl instead a boy certainly doesn't give enough insight into the person's life and character to know if they're an all-the-time-whiner or not.

Riiight...because not being excited about your baby because it's the "wrong" sex is the same thing as your husband not picking up his socks. I think it's a huge leap to compare complaining about morning sickness to complaining that you're not happy because of your baby's sex--one is temporary and justifiably miserable, one you've got to live with (and you knew you had a 50/50 chance when you got KU). We'll have to agree to disagree about what it means to be grateful for a healthy baby.

ArtificialRed

Ditto. I keep trying and trying to stay positive and upbeat and grateful about this pregnancy but I'm apparently really bad at it. Most of the time I'm past the guilt. I know in the end I will become a mom and love my baby, no matter what. But today? Today I am trying not to cry over the fact I still have 23 weeks left. If I could have known I would feel like this, I wouldn't have done it, there are other ways to become a mom, which is all I really wanted. 

ETA I lost my quotes. I'm guessing you all can figure out a reasonable place to stick this in.  

brideandbreve

ibekatieg:

First, "watching, judging" is a famous Vince Vaughn quote from "Old School". I feel the need to tell you as you seem like the type who could use a laugh. Watch it.

 

(I love him in that movie. "All you gotta do is say earmuffs to him.")

hmp1

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I'm surprised you have a crawl space in TX. Most houses (at least in DFW and Houston) are on slabs.  We live in TN now and I have never considered going in my crawl space for tornado warnings, interior downstairs bathroom is safe enough for me.

mlf625

Man, youbitches have your panties ALL kinds of wadded up today.  Touch a nerve, did we?   

(I'm not going to quote the 100 quoted and requoted posts, I'm referring to the late toddler bedtime dramz.) 

Newt69

FFFC - i dont know what this means but ti should likes a confessional so here is goes:

1: i ate lunch meat today on fresh italian bread, it was super yummy

2: i shot-gunned 2 MOUNTAIN DEW throwback with lunch. 

hmp1

mlf625:

Man, youbitches have your panties ALL kinds of wadded up today.  Touch a nerve, did we?   

(I'm not going to quote the 100 quoted and requoted posts, I'm referring to the late toddler bedtime dramz.) 

At least the ones wearing panties  I'm in the commando boat today too but I'm still in my pjs.

LauraJB313

VineyardMel:

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I grew up in Texas (not an area with storm cellars) and we always learned to go to an interior bathroom, get in the tub and cover with a mattress. I've never heard of going into the crawl space--that's not to say it's not a bad idea, but the creepy crawlies would ick me out, too!

Unfortunately, there is a window right next to the tub in our only bathroom (and there are glass shower doors on it).  The only place in our house that doesn't have windows is the hallway.  I guess I could shut all the doors between me and windows and build a mattress fort.  That might be more appealing than hanging out with the spiders during a storm.   

VineyardMel

LauraJB313:

VineyardMel:

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I grew up in Texas (not an area with storm cellars) and we always learned to go to an interior bathroom, get in the tub and cover with a mattress. I've never heard of going into the crawl space--that's not to say it's not a bad idea, but the creepy crawlies would ick me out, too!

Unfortunately, there is a window right next to the tub in our only bathroom (and there are glass shower doors on it).  The only place in our house that doesn't have windows is the hallway.  I guess I could shut all the doors between me and windows and build a mattress fort.  That might be more appealing than hanging out with the spiders during a storm.   

Where are you at in Texas? Hopefully you won't need to worry about this very often!

hmp1

LauraJB313:

VineyardMel:

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I grew up in Texas (not an area with storm cellars) and we always learned to go to an interior bathroom, get in the tub and cover with a mattress. I've never heard of going into the crawl space--that's not to say it's not a bad idea, but the creepy crawlies would ick me out, too!

Unfortunately, there is a window right next to the tub in our only bathroom (and there are glass shower doors on it).  The only place in our house that doesn't have windows is the hallway.  I guess I could shut all the doors between me and windows and build a mattress fort.  That might be more appealing than hanging out with the spiders during a storm.   

Or just go in a closet. We went to our MB closet in our last house even though it had a little part of an outside wall, it was the only room without windows that we could all fit in.

Just some advice for when you have a baby. We put LO in his infant carrier, now I put him in the Ergo and wear him. (I also put him in his bike helmet).

hmp1

auroraloo:

I'm also craving meat. Like lots and lots and lots of meat. Anyone want to go to Fogo tonight for meat and key lime pie? Anyone? 

YES!! But we better go at 6 so I can get my kid home by 8. 

damabo80

ibekatieg:

damabo80:

ATMmom324:

jocymama:

ibekatieg:

If you're out shopping, at dinner, etc. with your baby/toddler after 8PM, I judge you. Hard.

 

Judge away Sometimes you just need to be out after bedtime. Trust me I would rather have the LO in bed but when both parents work, things still need done and sometimes cooking on a weeknight is out of the question.

And now that it is nice out we have been running/walking most nights so DD isn't going to bed until almost 9- Gasp- And that would also be my FFFC

 

Same here.  My DD is a night owl and usually will not go to bed until after 9.  My husband and I are both night owls so I think it is genetic.   

Why 8p? DD is no where even close to tired at 8p. Neither am I, for that matter.

So why is 8p the magic number? And, who says the baby has to go to sleep in a crib? DD sleeps many times in the ergo. Unless you care to bash in the AP lifestyle where babies have to sleep in their own room, in their own crib.... 

Simple.

Babies (once sleeping regularly through the night) need 10-12 hours of sleep a night. This is through age 3 or so.

So bedtime is variable; however, to me after 8PM baby/toddler should be at home, winding down in preparation for bed, no matter the bed time, (ETA: if not already asleep), in order to get those 10-12 hours. Being at the gym, store, restaurant where the lights are bright or the noise is loud is stimulating. 

No one said anything about AP or where they're sleeping.  

Ok, it sounds like you're more concerned about the length of sleep, but your original OP made no mention of that...instead it focused on a time that babies/toddlers should be "at home". Two very different things.  You can still get 10-12 hours that doesnt need to start at 8p. 

8p bedtime, sleeps for 10 hours puts the wake up at 6a... No thanks. DD and I both sleep until 9-10a. She is growing/thriving, and gets her needed sleep. Her pedi is happy with her progress. FTR, loud constant noise (like the din in a restaurant) actually puts her to sleep (much like a white noise machine). And she sleeps in the ergo.

Now if I had a child who needed absolute silence and their own room to sleep, I would make adjustments as needed.  Like DH (he can only sleep in pitch black with no noise, in his own bed). Maybe because he was "raised" that way. thankfully, I can sleep anywhere, anytime. Guess who is more rested on vacations and when we travel

But thankfully I don't have a child like DH, or like yours, apparently. I put her in the ergo no matter where we are, and poof, she's asleep.  

snuggles277

There are certain "mommy bloggers" that just really piss me off... I just don't get why you need to pimp out your kids for some stupid sponsors to pay you $$$. I've stopped reading one blog in particular bc of the ridiculousness - sorry, your reviews of the swagger wagon will never convince me to buy one. 

alice2Bcheshire

Some observations:

1) I judge parents who are oblivious to their clearly cranky/tired/crying children out in public past bedtime-ish. Otherwise, what's the issue with kids out late?

2) I have never, ever brought DS to a movie theater. When I do, it will be to see a kids' movie. Can't find a sitter so you can see The Hunger Games? Stay home. 

LauraJB313

hmp&mrj:

LauraJB313:

We moved to Texas last summer and this is my first time living in a place where tornadoes are possible.  I'm honestly not sure which freaks me out more: the tornadoes or the spiders in the crawl space under our rental house (I'm fairly ignorant on the whole tornado safety front, but I think that is the safest place available).  So, yeah, I'm letting a fear of spiders stop me from being a rational, responsible adult and making reasonable preparations for a natural disaster.  AND, I'm pretty sure when news stories come on about people being unprepared for disasters, I've been judgmental.

I'm surprised you have a crawl space in TX. Most houses (at least in DFW and Houston) are on slabs.  We live in TN now and I have never considered going in my crawl space for tornado warnings, interior downstairs bathroom is safe enough for me.

Growing up in Colorado, we lived too close to the mountains to get tornadoes but further out on the plains, they happened occasionally and people were told to head for the basement... I figured the crawl space was as close as I could come.  But, I'll take any excuse I can come by to not have to enter the crawl space.

PenelopePond

alice2Bcheshire:

Some observations:

1) I judge parents who are oblivious to their clearly cranky/tired/crying children out in public past bedtime-ish. Otherwise, what's the issue with kids out late?

2) I have never, ever brought DS to a movie theater. When I do, it will be to see a kids' movie. Can't find a sitter so you can see The Hunger Games? Stay home. 

KellersPrag

anitalynn:

MH and I tried for 10 months. I know, not the longest time in the entire world. I had one miscarriage. MH was diagnosed with low motility and low morphology, was told by one clinic in MN that we would need to use ART to have a child that is biologically ours - that his s/a was bad enough we had little hope on our own. He got a second opinion from another place, equally low numbers on his second s/a, was treated with antibiotics for infection in his semen and treated for HBP. We conceived on our own - maybe by random luck, maybe because the doctor "fixed" something with him. I don't know. We cancelled his 3rd s/a because I was pregnant.

In my perfect world, MH and I will have one boy and one girl, that order. Ideally, about 2-3 years apart.

Going further into it - MH's family only has boys in it. My "fear" - that's not the right word, but whatever - my fear is that we will only ever have boys, even though in a perfect world I want a boy then a girl. So, in some strange way, I want this baby to be a girl so that I will at least have one girl. I am going to be thrilled for whatever baby we have, but honestly, I will be a little let down at first if we find out we are having a boy. Because I wonder if MH's family can only genetically conceive boys, since that is all that is on his dad's side of the family.

It might sound stupid. It might sound selfish, and it might like I am sounding like I am taking this pregnancy, this baby, for granted and that I really only want one thing - a baby girl. But I think that if people took a step back - honestly, I don't think anyone could say that I won't love and appreciate that baby with all of my soul - regardless if it's a boy or a girl.

People need to stop getting so fcuking butthurt over everything.

Thank you for posting this. 

PenelopePond

anitalynn:

MH and I tried for 10 months. I know, not the longest time in the entire world. I had one miscarriage. MH was diagnosed with low motility and low morphology, was told by one clinic in MN that we would need to use ART to have a child that is biologically ours - that his s/a was bad enough we had little hope on our own. He got a second opinion from another place, equally low numbers on his second s/a, was treated with antibiotics for infection in his semen and treated for HBP. We conceived on our own - maybe by random luck, maybe because the doctor "fixed" something with him. I don't know. We cancelled his 3rd s/a because I was pregnant.

In my perfect world, MH and I will have one boy and one girl, that order. Ideally, about 2-3 years apart.

Going further into it - MH's family only has boys in it. My "fear" - that's not the right word, but whatever - my fear is that we will only ever have boys, even though in a perfect world I want a boy then a girl. So, in some strange way, I want this baby to be a girl so that I will at least have one girl. I am going to be thrilled for whatever baby we have, but honestly, I will be a little let down at first if we find out we are having a boy. Because I wonder if MH's family can only genetically conceive boys, since that is all that is on his dad's side of the family.

It might sound stupid. It might sound selfish, and it might like I am sounding like I am taking this pregnancy, this baby, for granted and that I really only want one thing - a baby girl. But I think that if people took a step back - honestly, I don't think anyone could say that I won't love and appreciate that baby with all of my soul - regardless if it's a boy or a girl.

People need to stop getting so fcuking butthurt over everything.

 

DH's family is the same way with all boys. We find out tomorrow if we will continue the trend or not.  I keep feeling like this is a girl.  I don't think I will actually be disappointed if this is a boy.  I think I will be disappointed in myself for being convinced it's a girl.

 

VineyardMel

anitalynn:

MH and I tried for 10 months. I know, not the longest time in the entire world. I had one miscarriage. MH was diagnosed with low motility and low morphology, was told by one clinic in MN that we would need to use ART to have a child that is biologically ours - that his s/a was bad enough we had little hope on our own. He got a second opinion from another place, equally low numbers on his second s/a, was treated with antibiotics for infection in his semen and treated for HBP. We conceived on our own - maybe by random luck, maybe because the doctor "fixed" something with him. I don't know. We cancelled his 3rd s/a because I was pregnant.

In my perfect world, MH and I will have one boy and one girl, that order. Ideally, about 2-3 years apart.

Going further into it - MH's family only has boys in it. My "fear" - that's not the right word, but whatever - my fear is that we will only ever have boys, even though in a perfect world I want a boy then a girl. So, in some strange way, I want this baby to be a girl so that I will at least have one girl. I am going to be thrilled for whatever baby we have, but honestly, I will be a little let down at first if we find out we are having a boy. Because I wonder if MH's family can only genetically conceive boys, since that is all that is on his dad's side of the family.

It might sound stupid. It might sound selfish, and it might like I am sounding like I am taking this pregnancy, this baby, for granted and that I really only want one thing - a baby girl. But I think that if people took a step back - honestly, I don't think anyone could say that I won't love and appreciate that baby with all of my soul - regardless if it's a boy or a girl.

People need to stop getting so fcuking butthurt over everything.

 

Being a little let down if you're having a boy isn't the same thing as not being excited about the baby if it's a boy. I assume the "fcuking butthurt" comment was directed to me...whatevs. People who freak out about havin the "wrong" sex annoy me, but I can assure you they don't hurt me.

KellersPrag

VineyardMel:

anitalynn:

MH and I tried for 10 months. I know, not the longest time in the entire world. I had one miscarriage. MH was diagnosed with low motility and low morphology, was told by one clinic in MN that we would need to use ART to have a child that is biologically ours - that his s/a was bad enough we had little hope on our own. He got a second opinion from another place, equally low numbers on his second s/a, was treated with antibiotics for infection in his semen and treated for HBP. We conceived on our own - maybe by random luck, maybe because the doctor "fixed" something with him. I don't know. We cancelled his 3rd s/a because I was pregnant.

In my perfect world, MH and I will have one boy and one girl, that order. Ideally, about 2-3 years apart.

Going further into it - MH's family only has boys in it. My "fear" - that's not the right word, but whatever - my fear is that we will only ever have boys, even though in a perfect world I want a boy then a girl. So, in some strange way, I want this baby to be a girl so that I will at least have one girl. I am going to be thrilled for whatever baby we have, but honestly, I will be a little let down at first if we find out we are having a boy. Because I wonder if MH's family can only genetically conceive boys, since that is all that is on his dad's side of the family.

It might sound stupid. It might sound selfish, and it might like I am sounding like I am taking this pregnancy, this baby, for granted and that I really only want one thing - a baby girl. But I think that if people took a step back - honestly, I don't think anyone could say that I won't love and appreciate that baby with all of my soul - regardless if it's a boy or a girl.

People need to stop getting so fcuking butthurt over everything.

 

Being a little let down if you're having a boy isn't the same thing as not being excited about the baby if it's a boy. I assume the "fcuking butthurt" comment was directed to me...whatevs. People who freak out about havin the "wrong" sex annoy me, but I can assure you they don't hurt me.

If someone freaks out - crying, saying they're disappointed - they usually get over it. Sometimes it takes a little while, but I don't think anyone ever (or at least, not a normal woman...) gives birth to their healthy boy/girl and says, "Man, I wish this was a *insert opposite sex here*. " In that case, I would totally understand where you're coming from.

Someone crying and being upset while they get used to the idea? They had their heart set on one sex. Disappointment is natural.

KellersPrag

auroraloo:

Another. I have a bigasss box of mike and ikes in front of me, like, bigger than movie size. I will probably finish the whole damn box and then wash it down with strawberry soda.

Can I join with my family sized bag of Starburst jelly beans and root beer?

scarlette+noir

One word as far as the crying after finding out the sex of the baby: Hormones.

Boom. Headshot.

Now stop with the b!tching and go eat cupcakes.

Or watermelons.

Chocolate milk is good too...

KellersPrag

anitalynn:

KellersPrag:

VineyardMel:

anitalynn:

It might sound stupid. It might sound selfish, and it might like I am sounding like I am taking this pregnancy, this baby, for granted and that I really only want one thing - a baby girl. But I think that if people took a step back - honestly, I don't think anyone could say that I won't love and appreciate that baby with all of my soul - regardless if it's a boy or a girl.

People need to stop getting so fcuking butthurt over everything.

 

Being a little let down if you're having a boy isn't the same thing as not being excited about the baby if it's a boy. I assume the "fcuking butthurt" comment was directed to me...whatevs. People who freak out about havin the "wrong" sex annoy me, but I can assure you they don't hurt me.

If someone freaks out - crying, saying they're disappointed - they usually get over it. Sometimes it takes a little while, but I don't think anyone ever (or at least, not a normal woman...) gives birth to their healthy boy/girl and says, "Man, I wish this was a *insert opposite sex here*. " In that case, I would totally understand where you're coming from.

Someone crying and being upset while they get used to the idea? They had their heart set on one sex. Disappointment is natural.

There is a very good chance I will cry ugly, fat, irrationally sad tears at our a/s if we see a penis. But I will just take a moment to let it sink in, and I know I will be thrilled for who our baby is. I just can't say with 100% truth that I won't be sad at first. I don't want to feel this way, but I do. 

But that's my point. PP said that it's wrong to be even that upset. Why? Disappointment is completely natural. Sadness, whatever you want to call it. I personally will probably need some time to let it sink in if my baby turns out to be a girl. (I'm convinced it's a boy.) Does that mean I'm taking my (hopefully) healthy baby and pregnancy for granted? Absolutely not. In my opinion... scream, cry, sob, whatever helps you feel better after feeling disappointed. Then take some time and love the baby that you are having.

There's nothing wrong with that.