Just not fair

KNemo

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

greeneyed_bride

raven3513:

 I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

Although I do have to agree with you that biracial children are at a huge disadvantage. Poor Barack Obama - it's too bad that he'll never amount to anything. 

EGMphoto

Surely this is MUD.

Holy... 

raven3513

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

MeatballEsq

Saltylove:

tonir319:

If you weren't a racist, you wouldn't have thought it to be important to point out what color he was. If your issue was his credit or responsibleness, you would have left it at that. Stop talking. Claiming you have "black friends" does clear you from being a racist.

ding ding ding.

Although Tonir I think you meant to say Claiming you have black friends does not clear you from being racist.

Hahah um YEAH...major FAIL! Thanks Salty

MeatballEsq

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

That's not what Nemo meant. She meant digging yourself deeper in a hole, which you did with this post. Seriously you're not only racist, but you are a freakin' moron if you believe what you just posted. And trust me honey, we're sorry you posted too.

chattabox

OP, this is how I picture you.

Mrs.Umm

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

 

Wow, you sure are open-minded and progressive! Do you have "gay" friends, too??

leanna0127

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

You're pretty much saying black people shouldn't have kids because of some statistics. You are by far one of the most mind-numbing, ignorant racist I have ever met. And that says a lot, I live in SC.

KNemo

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

Hmmm. I guess all those mixed race children that go to Ivy League schools, get post-graduate and doctoral degrees, are lawyers, doctors, athletes, participate in community service, and are pillars of their communities didn't get the memo that they too, can succeed, just like whitey.

I guess all those white drop outs, rapists, criminals, dead beat dads, abusers, and homeless men were just born the wrong color.

STFU.  The things you described come in all colors. They aren't limited to one race!

 

landosmommy

SookieFrackhouse68:

Yeah... um...

::walks out::

::follows sookie:: 

LeLe25

tonir319:

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

If you weren't a racist, you wouldn't have thought it to be important to point out what color he was. If your issue was his credit or responsibleness, you would have left it at that. Stop talking. Claiming you have "black friends" does not clear you from being a racist.

Edited for moronic mistake.

Damn right!!!!!! I hope this is MUD.

foxxy1

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

I'm curious as to if you would feel the same way about me and my husband...we're both college-educated and if our son didn't pass away, he would've spoken three languages before he entered kindergarden.

Btw, there are plenty of other races and ethnicities who deal with the bolded...it ain't just Black folk...

kelnyc

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

Clearly you do not know what this word means then. Would you say these things out loud to other black friends (if you even have any)? I highly doubt it. On second thought, why don't you tell them that you think this chick having a biracial baby puts them at a disadvantage and see why happens. I double dog dare you!

kelnyc

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

You are an assshole.

/gavel

sourapplemartini

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat???

 

joanithegreat

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

How is this not racist?  Bi-racial kids are automatically at a disadvantage? 

Maybe me and my Native husband should reconsider having kids.  Being half white and half Native will put them at a disadvantage and we don't want that.

OP you are a racist douche, who doesn't realize she is a racist douche. 

You go bye-bye now.

MrsLuWho

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

WTF does this mean!?!?!? Sounds like you need some sense KNOCKED into you!! 

flwboe

I stopped reading responses awhile ago. I did not see anyone comment on this yet so I am (if you have sorry, I stopped reading after my eyes started to mesh words together)

First, I will admit that I can understand where you are coming from, however, you are not thinking about things in a rational manor. I'm sure your friend was not calling and trying to throw her pregnancy in your face, she was calling to simply share the news. You being very sensitive about the topic took it a very different way. I can understand the conflict of emotions that happen when you want to be preggers and it seems like everyone else is getting pregnant just by drinking water, but it doesn't mean they are throwing it in your face. It's not a race so stop trying to make it one.

Second, by simply feeling the need to mention that she was sleeping with a "black guy" you already threw yourself under the bus. 

Your entire post came off as like you were having a temper tantrum, not an adult pity party. There is a difference.

CinemaGoddess

Crabman is appalled. 

 

 

Cobra11

My kid is so screwed. He is 3 (count it ladies!)  THREE different races. 

KNemo

CinemaGoddess:

Crabman is appalled. 

Bwhahahaha. Where have you been all my life, CG. And WTF are you doing on this board? Twins aren't enough for you? You looking to TTGP with trips this time? 

 

CinemaGoddess

KNemo:

CinemaGoddess:

Crabman is appalled. 

Bwhahahaha. Where have you been all my life, CG. And WTF are you doing on this board? Twins aren't enough for you? You looking to TTGP with trips this time? 

 

12-24 is boring as fuuck right now, dude.  Everyone's on stupid vacays.  Hors. 

NO.  You can have my water.  All of it.  And my dust and whatever else you need to get pregnant.

KNemo

CinemaGoddess:

NO.  You can have my water.  All of it.  And my dust and whatever else you need to get pregnant.

I don't want your dust or your water. I want one baby. Count with me ONE! I miss you!

CinemaGoddess

KNemo:

CinemaGoddess:

NO.  You can have my water.  All of it.  And my dust and whatever else you need to get pregnant.

I don't want your dust or your water. I want one baby. Count with me ONE! I miss you!

I might be moving to your neck of the woods.  Cupcake date is on like Donkey Kong, yo. 

MrsFobeyFobes

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Spoken like a true racist. OP, you are such an a$$hat.

[Deleted User]

raven3513:

greeneyed_bride:

raven3513:

No, if she had been dating a white guy I would still feel that it wasn't okay. I personally don't agree with children outside of marriage. I just feel with her dating this particular guy it opens her up to lots of other issues. The chance of him having other children, past debts, a criminal record, bad credit. Also if this relationship doesn't work out it may be more difficult for her to start another relationship where someone would be willing to accept this child.

Ok, I'm just lurking here, but... In your opinion, the fact that some future boyfriends might be willing to accept a white child but not a biracial child is a bad thing?? Frankly, I see that as a positive... it would give her an opportunity to weed out the racist douchebags before entering into a relationship with them. If the only reason a man wouldn't accept a child from a previous relationship is that the child was biracial, he's an a**hole, and your friend would be lucky to know that ahead of time.

Of course, you seem to be racist, too, so I can see why you wouldn't see it that way... 

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 

Okay, so I'm a "mixed race baby"...I will be graduating college in April, I work full time, pay ALL of my own bills, live on my own, and am getting married in a year. What disadvantage did I have from being two races? FWIW, I actually DID have a difficult upbringing (read: poverty) but it had nothing to do with either of my races, and I "beat the odds" by going on to succeed. Also, my FI is white. So I guess our future children are screwed, too? Fuuck.

OP, you are an ignorant biitch. And, Obama don't play that. 

KNemo

CinemaGoddess:

KNemo:

CinemaGoddess:

NO.  You can have my water.  All of it.  And my dust and whatever else you need to get pregnant.

I don't want your dust or your water. I want one baby. Count with me ONE! I miss you!

I might be moving to your neck of the woods.  Cupcake date is on like Donkey Kong, yo. 

Fcuk yeah! When are you finally moving over to the side of good and light?

KatiesCats

When you have to say that you're not closed minded or racist...it usually means you ARE.

ButternutSquash

ETA: Nevermind, others handled it. Me and my disadvantaged baby will just skedaddle.

pixy_stix

The worst ones are the ones who don't realize they're racist.

marie427

raven3513:

I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

Yay, I was waiting for the "BUT I HAVE BLACK FRIENDS!!11!!!!1!" line!

laurenpetro

OP: meet Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter: meet someone who will never be as successful as you, no matter how many lives she lives. The End.

ButternutSquash

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

 

Jermysgirl

Ewwwwwwwwwwww, a black guy?!? What a filthy whore! I mean, doesn't she know all black people are uneducated criminals? And no upstanding guy (ie, white) is going to accept a gross biracial baby when her black boyfriend inevitably goes to prison!! She'll be ruined for life!!!!111!!!1 Fuuck you in the face, OP.

mrsbecky07

KatiesCats:

When you have to say that you're not closed minded or racist...it usually means you ARE.

Yeah people usually don't have to make a point of saying how open minded they are if they actually are..... 

MJHershey

*blink*

 

BTW, 6 months is the low average for the typical amount of time it takes. Most REs won't even look at you until more than a year, so.... chill. It's not fair when you have tried everything, are broke, have had multiple miscarriages, failed adoption matches.... and years have passed with no progress. It's not fair when a woman like Courtney Tripp has to watch her son die. 

Having to wait for something is life. I am not saying it's easy, and if you came in here just sharing frustration its one thing, but all this ugliness and kindergarten whining.... While you're waiting, maybe work on trimming down the pedestal you put yourself on, eh? 

MiniSteph

KatiesCats:

When you have to say that you're not closed minded or racist...it usually means you ARE.

This exactly.  

Adam&Eve07

raven3513:

My husband and I have been ttc for almost 6 months with no luck. Each month we get our hopes up only to be let down again. This cycle I was trying not to take the BFN too hard and had actually made myself feel a bit better by thinking of how we have more time to prepare for when it does happen. Then last night I received a call from a friend and the not so wonderful announcement that she is pregnant. First it pisses me off that I haven't heard from her in weeks and then when she calls its almost like she is throwing this is my face. We were really close at one point but seem to have drifted apart over time. I would be happy for her if she was actually doing things the right way. I just feel sometimes things aren't fair. My husband and I have been together 7 years, married for 3, we own a home and are established in our careers, yet no baby for us. Then my friend on the other hand is not married, dating a black guy that she's only known for few months, lives with roommates and is still in school, but she gets to have a baby. NOT FAIR!

Grrrr I know our time will come but it just makes me mad seems like everyone is pregnant except for us. Sorry for the mini-rant, I know its a bit whiney and thanks for listening.

 

Adam&Eve07

Mrs.Umm:

raven3513:

KNemo:

raven3513:

I'm not at all racist. I just am realistic. By having a child with this man she is placing herself and the child at a disadvantage. I just don't agree that she is knowingly doing this. I am very open minded and have friends of all races so I definitely amthe last person that would be a racist.

 Clearly, because an open-minded person sees that by being born mixed race, you are automatically at a disadvantage. You are a moron. Stop digging, you've reached the bottom already.

I'm open minded by not digging my head in the sand and ignoring the facts that there is a higher chance of being involved with crime, drugs, violence, failing to achieve a higher education and poverty.  I'm open to facing the truth of our society. I'm sorry I even posted, this is not what I wanting. I was hoping to just vent about my ttc gripes like everyone else here, maybe receive a few encouraging words or snap out of it responses.Instead this has turned into a racism debate. Once again sorry for venting here.

 

Wow, you sure are open-minded and progressive! Do you have "gay" friends, too??

Oh, hell no. She wouldn't want her potential children to catch the "gay." Because, you know, that would put them at a huge disadvantage.