July 2011 Moms

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  • I really want to suffocate my husband in his sleep, at bare minimum throat punch him.  And I might, I have good reason to.

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  • I find it weird when I see someone posts a personal message to someone else on the board and there's over a hundred and something views on it. I always skip those personal posts.

    *This excludes those posts that ask for updates on something that may have happened to someone.  I'm talking about the posts that have someone's name in them if this makes any sense!

     

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  • imagetavia_martin:

    We are selling our house. We have a camera in the living room and the bedroom and we can see and hear everything the realtor and buyers say when they come look at the house.

    I feel really guilty and sneaky. 

    This is AWESOME!  Kinda like one of those home improvement shows on HGTV.  Maybe you'll get some good youtube clips!

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    One cousin even told me that her doctor said it would do more harm to quit because it would be too stressful (yeah f'ing right). 

    My Dr told me this as well, and I have heard it from other sources as well...MOSTLY its for women who smoke 3 packs a day easy...it is too stressful to quit cold turkey

    I guess it might be stressful to quit cold turkey.  But people use this as an EXCUSE to not even cut back.  In my relatives' cases, they didn't even try!  For me, it would be more stressful knowing that with each drag of a cigarette that I was putting toxins in my poor baby's body Sad

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  • I have nothing done in baby girls room....NOTHING!
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  • I miss being able to feel my hip bones. I hope we are one day reunited.

    Isaac Levi 4/26/09 : BFP#2 - MC 9w : Ezra John 6/26/11 : Miriam Joy 4/12/13 : Naomi Ann 9/2/14

  • Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.


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    TTC #2 - 6/12 surgery #3, FET #1 & 1.2 = BFN, 12/2012 FET #2 = BFP! DD is 1.5 yrs!
    Surprise! 12/16/14 BFP, loss #2 12/31/14

    I can't wait for the "im getting a divorce" post in 5 years or so because your husbands were fed up with your disgusting chair asses from playing on the knot all day and getting fired 4-5 times for not doing any work. you guys are all winners!! ~ Laur929

  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    I agree 100% with you on this topic....is it worth the risk?

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  • We've finally decided on a name for our potential little girl (we still don't have a boy's name, though).

    Up to this point, we haven't had any issues sharing the names we were considering with people, especially family members. Now that we have one set in stone, I don't want to share it. I don't want to know whether people like it or not because we love it (and it's practically the only name we agree on!)

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    ITA. I haven't read that post but also worry about what could happen.

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  • imageduhdaisy86:
    I have nothing done in baby girls room....NOTHING!

    Same here! It's currently a haven for leftover Christmas decor that has to be stored away and there's a full-size bed in it that we have to give to BIL.  

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    I agree.

    I read a home birth story once where the mother nonchalantly mentions that her baby's umbilical cord was around her neck when she pushed her out. It kinds seems like a big deal to me.

    Also, I've NEVER seen anyone get injected with drugs they don't want and I've worked at a hospital for the past four years.

     

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    One cousin even told me that her doctor said it would do more harm to quit because it would be too stressful (yeah f'ing right). 

    My Dr told me this as well, and I have heard it from other sources as well...MOSTLY its for women who smoke 3 packs a day easy...it is too stressful to quit cold turkey

    I guess it might be stressful to quit cold turkey.  But people use this as an EXCUSE to not even cut back.  In my relatives' cases, they didn't even try!  For me, it would be more stressful knowing that with each drag of a cigarette that I was putting toxins in my poor baby's body Sad

    i quit cold turkey twice. it sucked. (my last cigarette was the night before bfp but i had quit like a month prior, it was a slip). its hard on your body... but suck it up and be a parent.

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    Not flaming, I get what you're saying, but couldn't you say the same if something went wrong because you chose to go to the hospital? Just because you're in a hospital doesn't mean you're safe. 

  • imageduhdaisy86:
    I have nothing done in baby girls room....NOTHING!

    Don't feel bad, I haven't done a thing for the boys' room. And I'm not even sure we'll be living in the same place!

    BTW, so glad you and baby girl are okay! I'm sure that was quite a scare yesterday!

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  • imagetavia_martin:
    imagemainemommy:

    I (as well as several others from what Ive learned) skip HDBD because it seems like there are more compliments than bumps.

    I just wanna see the baby bellies people, not how cute you think peoples outfits are.

    YES!!!!! ITA. There are 153 replies, but only like 20 of those are actual bump pictures. Let's make a separate "you are so cute, I love your shirt" thread. Big Smile

    On the same note, don't reply as the second or third reply without a picture and say "I'm going to add a picture later" just because you want your picture to be on the first page. Whoa that was pretty b!tchy of me. 

    That's a good idea. :)

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    I do believe in home-births being a safe option, when the mother is low-risk.

    I do not understand how that woman stayed under a MW's care. She does not sound like the typical low-risk candidate.

    Isaac Levi 4/26/09 : BFP#2 - MC 9w : Ezra John 6/26/11 : Miriam Joy 4/12/13 : Naomi Ann 9/2/14

  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    Unfortunately, homebirth isn't an option for us- not only are we 30+ miles from the nearest decent hospital, there also aren't any midwives willing to travel all the way to us.

    But all that aside, I do think it's a personal choice.  Yes, there are risks involved.  Could some of those risks be avoided if you were in a hospital setting instead?  Sure.  Are there other risks from being in a hospital that you avoid by birthing at home?  Absolutely.

    I think the key factors are health of the mother and good midwife care.  If you've been completely evaluated and monitored throughout pregnancy and have been ruled low-risk with no complications throughout the journey, there's no real cause for concern.  Sure, anything could happen.  But the likelihood of something happening when the mother-to-be has been monitored throughout is extremely low.

    In the case of the article you submitted, the mother was clearly NOT low risk and home birth should never have been an option for her.

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  • imageLyea1986:

    I read a home birth story once where the mother nonchalantly mentions that her baby's umbilical cord was around her neck when she pushed her out. It kinds seems like a big deal to me.

    It actually is quite common to have the umbilical cord around the neck.

    Isaac Levi 4/26/09 : BFP#2 - MC 9w : Ezra John 6/26/11 : Miriam Joy 4/12/13 : Naomi Ann 9/2/14

  • imagetavia_martin:
    imageL&R70707:

    I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    Not flaming, I get what you're saying, but couldn't you say the same if something went wrong because you chose to go to the hospital? Just because you're in a hospital doesn't mean you're safe. 

    Yeah but at least you have medical attention right away rather than waiting how ever long to get to a hospital.

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    OMG that story is heartbreaking.  She should have never considered home birth given all of her medical issues - and someone should have told her that.  I think home births are much too risky, but it's your choice.  But along with that choice you are accepting responsibility for anything that happens.  And to the woman who posted the link - seriously?  You have to ask if you should change MW's?  Indifferent

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    I read a home birth story once where the mother nonchalantly mentions that her baby's umbilical cord was around her neck when she pushed her out. It kinds seems like a big deal to me.

    It actually is quite common to have the umbilical cord around the neck.

    I had no idea it was common. I just know that having the umbilical cord tangled around his neck was what almost killed my brother. But that was 19 years ago. 

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  • imagemrsbaker1128:

    Don't feel bad, I haven't done a thing for the boys' room. And I'm not even sure we'll be living in the same place!

    BTW, so glad you and baby girl are okay! I'm sure that was quite a scare yesterday!

    Thank you hun! :O) It was very scary.....I told her not to do that to me again. Right after the DR found her on doppler, she started moving like crazy..

    Little Booger :O)

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    One cousin even told me that her doctor said it would do more harm to quit because it would be too stressful (yeah f'ing right). 

    My Dr told me this as well, and I have heard it from other sources as well...MOSTLY its for women who smoke 3 packs a day easy...it is too stressful to quit cold turkey

    I guess it might be stressful to quit cold turkey.  But people use this as an EXCUSE to not even cut back.  In my relatives' cases, they didn't even try!  For me, it would be more stressful knowing that with each drag of a cigarette that I was putting toxins in my poor baby's body Sad

    i quit cold turkey twice. it sucked. (my last cigarette was the night before bfp but i had quit like a month prior, it was a slip). its hard on your body... but suck it up and be a parent.

    OH Don't get me wrong ITA...I quit cold turkey as well...and for the 3 pack a dayers the Drs want you to quit by the middle of your 2nd tri....

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  • I am currently eating 3 small donuts from Starbucks and yet again...have my half calf nonfat Carmel Machiatto! :O)

    MMMM Cake Batter pink donuts are next! 

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  • imageaesf:
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    One cousin even told me that her doctor said it would do more harm to quit because it would be too stressful (yeah f'ing right). 

    My Dr told me this as well, and I have heard it from other sources as well...MOSTLY its for women who smoke 3 packs a day easy...it is too stressful to quit cold turkey

    I guess it might be stressful to quit cold turkey.  But people use this as an EXCUSE to not even cut back.  In my relatives' cases, they didn't even try!  For me, it would be more stressful knowing that with each drag of a cigarette that I was putting toxins in my poor baby's body Sad

    i quit cold turkey twice. it sucked. (my last cigarette was the night before bfp but i had quit like a month prior, it was a slip). its hard on your body... but suck it up and be a parent.

    ITA - it does suck.  Like I mentioned in my OP, I was a smoker (like 5 - 10/day).  I quit cold turkey and it wasn't the easiest thing in the world.  But like you said - suck it up and be a parent!

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  • imageduhdaisy86:

    Yeah but at least you have medical attention right away rather than waiting how ever long to get to a hospital.

    ITA.

    If something goes very wrong, you can bleed out in a matter of minutes.

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    Reading the original post on the blog (which was terribly sad) reveals that the MW the couple chose was GROSSLY INCOMPETENT. There are people in every profession that are terrible at their jobs or that don't care enough to do their job well. There were multiple red flags in this situation. The mother was too high risk to attempt a homebirth, but the MW took her on anyway.

    Home births can be just as safe as a hospital birth IF your provider is competent. The same thing could have happened at a hospital. So saying that home births are riskier than hospital births is not fair. As with anything, there are multiple factors that caused the final result. The end result of this story didn't necessarily happen because of the attempt at home birth. Had this MW done her job, this mother would have been transferred to the hospital ASAP and all of this could have probably been avoided. The moral is do your research and find a good competent provider.

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  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    This story is very sad, however I don't think you can only blame the homebirth aspect of the birth. Those parents knew their baby wasn't breathing well, even questioned their MW about it, and still let her do what she wanted. If my baby wasn't breathing well, I sure as hell would not sit around, nap, and wait for him or her to start breathing better. You have to be your child's advocate, and those parents weren't.

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  • imageLyea1986:
    imageMrs.Leah.Maria:
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    I read a home birth story once where the mother nonchalantly mentions that her baby's umbilical cord was around her neck when she pushed her out. It kinds seems like a big deal to me.

    It actually is quite common to have the umbilical cord around the neck.

    I had no idea it was common. I just know that having the umbilical cord tangled around his neck was what almost killed my brother. But that was 19 years ago. 

    My brother as well, although he did die from birth complications at 18 months old, but those were more due to a negligent Dr.

    It has to do with the length of the umbilical cord and there are some other factors. I was told that the umbilical cord length is completely arbitrary between pregnancies and that their is no family history related however.  

    Isaac Levi 4/26/09 : BFP#2 - MC 9w : Ezra John 6/26/11 : Miriam Joy 4/12/13 : Naomi Ann 9/2/14

  • imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    My nephew was just born at home - and rushed to the hospital via ambulance twenty minutes later because he wasn't breathing well.  He spent 4 days in the NICU.  I agree - wouldn't this have been less stressful and scary if he had just been born in the hospital in the first place?

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  • I love the baby name posts on here. Theyre the best posts lately. Even the ones with names that are totally nms & I side eye a little (or a lot).

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  • imageJay_Cee:

    This story is very sad, however I don't think you can only blame the homebirth aspect of the birth. Those parents knew their baby wasn't breathing well, even questioned their MW about it, and still let her do what she wanted. If my baby wasn't breathing well, I sure as hell would not sit around, nap, and wait for him or her to start breathing better. You have to be your child's advocate, and those parents weren't.

    Great point and going back to L&R, each parent is choosing to be their child's advocate in a different way. Some by going to the hospital, others by choosing a home birth.

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  • I couldn't agree with PP more, HDBD had turned into an out of control compliment fest and to be honest i don't bother too much with it anymore either, and also feel bad for the girls who aren't getting compliments, therefore I just don't participate!

    I also hate that this board is so busy during the day and so quiet at night, it stinks that I can't participate more! I do not have a job that I am able to have computer access throughout the day, so I can't catch up until I get home:( 

  • imagetavia_martin:
    imageL&R70707:

    Ok...I've got a big one. 

    I think home births are risky choices and injuries/deaths arising from them are just as much the parents fault as the MW.  This post has the the link to the extremely sad and upsetting story that has me so fired up at the moment,  obviously a slanted blog, but the OP is just as dumb IMO for considering the same practice/MW.   To me, most of the home birth reasoning seems like a walking contradiction....hospitals are full of "super-bugs", germs and doctors that will force you to take meds, but its totally cool to turn a blind eye on all the things that could go wrong at home.  I realize it is a personal choice, but at the end of the day, if something goes wrong, you've chosen to forego minutes of precious life saving medical care for you and your baby.

    Not flaming, I get what you're saying, but couldn't you say the same if something went wrong because you chose to go to the hospital? Just because you're in a hospital doesn't mean you're safe. 

    True, but you don't have to figure out how to transport yourself or wait for transport (that most likely will not have specialist training in the OB field).  There is some horribly scary stuff that can happen anywhere, but you can't say you did everything medically possible to save someone when you chose limited care to start with.


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    I can't wait for the "im getting a divorce" post in 5 years or so because your husbands were fed up with your disgusting chair asses from playing on the knot all day and getting fired 4-5 times for not doing any work. you guys are all winners!! ~ Laur929

  • I'm really annoyed with MH's aunt, and myself.  She gave me the wrong zip code for MH's cousin's baby gift (a quilt) and so luckily I had the thought to do "delivery confirmation" on it so I've watched it bounce around NC and now it's headed back to me here in MI.  I'm mad at myself because MH also had e-mailed his cousin directly and got the correct address, but I stupidly assumed his flaky aunt knew the zip code since it's her nephew and she would've shipped him a Christmas gift.  Looking thru an old e-mail where she had e-mailed the cousin to find out his baby's sex it sounds like her Christmas gift never got there.  Hmm.  WONDER WHY. 

    So now I get to put it in a new envelope (I use padded envelopes often for quilts) and readdress it, and reship it.  Waste of $6.  Just annoys me. 

    I'm also getting sick of MH's travel.  I appreciate being able to SAH, but him being gone M-F (or sometimes Sun afternoon - Sat morning) is getting REALLY old.  He's just told me now he gets to go out to CA on a regular basis, in addition to MO and TX.  He's also planning to go to a sales conference in FL the beginning of June.  I told him he'd better pray I keep being complication free.  He actually whined when I told him I didn't think the FL trip was a great idea.  I guess it's the one conference a year he looks forward to because its practically a boondoggle.  That's great you have fun dear, but you've pretty much missed this whole pregnancy.  Would be nice if you'd be home the last month of it. 

    Oh and he's also going to FL the week before Easter with his best friend to watch the last space shuttle.  He can't find tickets for the actual viewing sites but they're still going.  Free flight from Delta credits and free hotel in Orlando from his Hilton points, but I am irritated he's getting this nice vacation and I'll be here with DD by myself again.  His friend's wife and their twins are coming up here, so at least I'll have company and DD can play with the 1 year old twins.  I think I need to find a really nice day spa for one of the weekend days before they leave once my friend is here so we get a nice day before 4 days of 3 little girls wanting their daddies.

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  • I ate two cookies and two pieces of cake at DH's work picnic yesterday.  Darn the sweet tooth!  It went away in first tri, but MAN is it back!
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  • imagemainemommy:

    I love the baby name posts on here. Theyre the best posts lately. Even the ones with names that are totally nms & I side eye a little (or a lot).

    Me too! They're the one "repetitive" post that I don't mind.  

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  • imageduhdaisy86:
    I have nothing done in baby girls room....NOTHING!

    This makes me feel better. I have a plan, a crib in a box, and some bedding items still packaged by the front door. The kids are sharing a room, so I excuse it as not disrupting DS's space before I have to. Also, I'm too tired to think about it.

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  • I think people who get all out of sorts over proper shower/party etiquette have too much time on their hands. I get things like flat out asking people to buy you a certain gift, but getting upset over other things like if they've put where they're registered or how they've set everything up is ridiculous.

    And a side off from the post w/ the shower outfit. I'm wearing jeans with a really nice top and shoes at my shower. I don't like my legs and I hate dresses. I want to be comfortable. Not that I think there's anything wrong w/ wearing a dress to yours, that's just my opinion. Big Smile

    ETA: Changed a word.

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