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Vaccines are NOT 100 percent effective

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    What is the issue people have with the Hep B?
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  • punkfictionpunkfiction

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    What is the issue people have with the Hep B?

    how do you get hep b? why would a baby 1 day old need a hep b vax? lol

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  • goodheartedmommygoodheartedmommy member

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    What is the issue people have with the Hep B?

    That's the one we do because you know babies these days...already having sex and sharing needles and stuff.

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    My pedi said it was smart to get it done in case something were to happen and she needed a blood transfusion. You just never know what could happen or if the blood was 100% with out a doubt clean because accidents happen. I was just wondering if there was some reaction people were scared of with it.
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  • punkfictionpunkfiction

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    My pedi said it was smart to get it done in case something were to happen and she needed a blood transfusion. You just never know what could happen or if the blood was 100% with out a doubt clean because accidents happen. I was just wondering if there was some reaction people were scared of with it.

    at 2 days old, mbw? that doesn't seem a little "eh" to you?

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  • preg_amypreg_amy

    You know... I don't think anyone here is saying that a delayed vaccination schedule is horrible. 

    I think most people have a problem with parents completely opting out of vaccines.

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    Yea at 2 days old. You just never know what can happen. You could be in a car accident on the way home from the hospital. If there is no risk associated why not.
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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    imagegoodheartedmommy:

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    What is the issue people have with the Hep B?

    That's the one we do because you know babies these days...already having sex and sharing needles and stuff.

    Who said anything about sex and drugs. I said blood transfusion. 

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  • Susan_KWSusan_KW member

    good hearted mommy ...

    Can you give some pubmed links for what you are saying?   I did several pubmed searches for vax reactions, and I never found anything that would suggest someone should not vaccinate.

    If it's not in pubmed, I don't consider it "research" on a medical condition

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  • flutiefrostieflutiefrostie member
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    good hearted mommy ...

    Can you give some pubmed links for what you are saying?   I did several pubmed searches for vax reactions, and I never found anything that would suggest someone should not vaccinate.

    If it's not in pubmed, I don't consider it "research" on a medical condition

    Don't you know pubmed is in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies?? LOL. I completely agree with you. If it's not published in a respectable journal, there's a problem. 

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  • iris427iris427 member

    imagepunkfiction:
    the chance that your child encounters polio (as you mentioned before) is extremely slim.  so you weigh your pros and cons. end of story. iris' comment said "deliberately expose" - and that is not the mindset of anti-vaxers at all.

    Well, they have chicken pox parties (just look on mdc).  Why not polio parties?  The only way to acquire natural immunity is to be exposed.  So unless you are deliberately exposing your child to measles, polio, etc., you have no way to guarantee they will have natural immunity, and then that whole argument no longer makes sense.

    Natural immunity to chicken pox is one thing.  But CP is just one disease out of many that we vax for, and it just doesn't compare to measles, hib, polio, etc.

    My argument is not with you, punk.  It's with parents who do not vax, period, and then throw out straw man arguments like "most polio cases were GB syndrome" because they can't come up with a solid, fact-based argument against vaccinating.

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
    imageiris427:

    imagepunkfiction:
    the chance that your child encounters polio (as you mentioned before) is extremely slim.  so you weigh your pros and cons. end of story. iris' comment said "deliberately expose" - and that is not the mindset of anti-vaxers at all.

    Well, they have chicken pox parties (just look on mdc).  Why not polio parties?  The only way to acquire natural immunity is to be exposed.  So unless you are deliberately exposing your child to measles, polio, etc., you have no way to guarantee they will have natural immunity, and then that whole argument no longer makes sense.

    Natural immunity to chicken pox is one thing.  But CP is just one disease out of many that we vax for, and it just doesn't compare to measles, hib, polio, etc.

    My argument is not with you, punk.  It's with parents who do not vax, period, and then throw out straw man arguments like "most polio cases were GB syndrome" because they can't come up with a solid, fact-based argument against vaccinating.

    oh i know that its the anti-vaxers youre arguing with.

    but my point is that what is the difference between natural immunity and "never being exposed so not getting it" in the long run. if my kids aren't vaxed, im not going to deliberately expose them to mumps - im gonna hope they don't get it. and if they do, then id guess be happy for the immunity later.

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