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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.
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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.

    oh i know that (we spread them out). but that is not the case for MANY people on this board. 

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    Please don't assume that we're all trying to avoid autism. I just am a fan of natural immunity.

    Lol at natural immunity...so those that vaccinate aren't using their "natural" immunity?  Except for the immuno-compromised, we all use our immune systems daily.  That's exactly what vaccines are set up to do - use the body's "natural" immune system to fight off these deadly diseases, allowing the person who comes across the disease to have a milder reaction (or none at all) instead of the full-blown disease.  Do you know how an immune system works?  Not trying to be snarky, but just wanted to know if you knew the fundamentals here... 

    Yes, I do. Do you?

    She just described how an immune system works.  And I believe she's been to med school.  Therefore, I'm going with yes on this one.

    Yes, thank you.  I could BORE you with the mundane details and ins and outs of the immune system.  FAR more than anyone would care to know, I'm sure.   

    I've been to nursing school.  While totally not the same...right there with ya on this one!

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  • tarebear9891tarebear9891 member
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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.

    oh i know that (we spread them out). but that is not the case for MANY people on this board. 

    It might be because their pedi's give them a schedule and tell them it's the "norm." I know that is the case for a lot of pedi's in my area. We choose one to fit Luke's needs.

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  • Jen0414Jen0414
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

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  • iris427iris427 member
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.
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    Please don't assume that we're all trying to avoid autism. I just am a fan of natural immunity.

    Lol at natural immunity...so those that vaccinate aren't using their "natural" immunity?  Except for the immuno-compromised, we all use our immune systems daily.  That's exactly what vaccines are set up to do - use the body's "natural" immune system to fight off these deadly diseases, allowing the person who comes across the disease to have a milder reaction (or none at all) instead of the full-blown disease.  Do you know how an immune system works?  Not trying to be snarky, but just wanted to know if you knew the fundamentals here... 

    Yes, I do. Do you?

    She just described how an immune system works.  And I believe she's been to med school.  Therefore, I'm going with yes on this one.

    Yes, thank you.  I could BORE you with the mundane details and ins and outs of the immune system.  FAR more than anyone would care to know, I'm sure.   

    I've been to nursing school.  While totally not the same...right there with ya on this one!

    Lol, yes...what do we know?  Everyone knows the pharmaceutical companies rewrite our medical curriculum to suit their financial needs, right?  I can't roll my eyes hard enough...it hurts!

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.

    oh i know that (we spread them out). but that is not the case for MANY people on this board. 

    It might be because their pedi's give them a schedule and tell them it's the "norm." I know that is the case for a lot of pedi's in my area. We choose one to fit Luke's needs.

    i know. and i think thats sad. i learned a big lesson after aidan's first year. i didnt know any better. i was fed the info, didnt have outlets like message boards to ask what other people were doing, etc. my pedi told me it was the norm. but people on here have no excuse. (not that i did - i should have done more research, but i know that now)

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction

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    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

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  • kelbriankelbrian

    Some books that I read while pregnant that I found interesting:

    The Vaccine Book, by Dr. Sears.

    What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations, by Stephanie Cave, M.D.

    Vaccines: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide, by Aviva Jill Romm, midwife.

    The Vaccine Answer Book, by Jamie Loehr, M.D.

    I'm also interested in reading Autism's False Prophets  by Dr. Paul A. Offit. It's about anti-vaccine movement and about debunking the link between autism and vaccinations.

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  • tarebear9891tarebear9891 member
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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.

    oh i know that (we spread them out). but that is not the case for MANY people on this board. 

    It might be because their pedi's give them a schedule and tell them it's the "norm." I know that is the case for a lot of pedi's in my area. We choose one to fit Luke's needs.

    i know. and i think thats sad. i learned a big lesson after aidan's first year. i didnt know any better. i was fed the info, didnt have outlets like message boards to ask what other people were doing, etc. my pedi told me it was the norm. but people on here have no excuse. (not that i did - i should have done more research, but i know that now)

    I'm thinking we are on the same page. Are there any vaccines you refuse to do?

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  • Skipperg82Skipperg82 member
    imagepunkfiction:

    imageiris427:
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

    OMG please do not compare chicken pox to polio...you're being sarcastic here, right?  RIGHT??? 

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat

    I'm not going to keep quoting the long line.

    But punk I don't think minority my pedi has a delayed schedule he imposes himself so there are less together.

    Jenny Mcarthy says her son had the flip but yet he is cured now so she says. So maybe it is something in their system that reacts to the MMR that has nothing to do with Autism. At the time these people got these vaccines and the flip was being reported I believe there was still mercury in the MMR. Who freaking knows. What I do know is my situation and that is it nothing more. Both of the boys had autistic signs before the MMR.

    Have you had Aiden get the MMR?

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    You can do the vaccines so they are not 5 at a time. We don't do 5 at a time and MMR is at 15 months alone not 12.

    oh i know that (we spread them out). but that is not the case for MANY people on this board. 

    It might be because their pedi's give them a schedule and tell them it's the "norm." I know that is the case for a lot of pedi's in my area. We choose one to fit Luke's needs.

    i know. and i think thats sad. i learned a big lesson after aidan's first year. i didnt know any better. i was fed the info, didnt have outlets like message boards to ask what other people were doing, etc. my pedi told me it was the norm. but people on here have no excuse. (not that i did - i should have done more research, but i know that now)

    I'm thinking we are on the same page. Are there any vaccines you refuse to do?

    we refuse rotovirus, any flu shots, MMR until 2, pox until at least school aged (hoping for them to get the pox before then), and i am up in the air about how late ill do hep b. 

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  • Jen0414Jen0414
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    imageJen0414:
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    Interesting.. the chiro. I went to when I was pregnant had none of their kids vaccinated and were anti- vaccinations so I asked them how their kids were in school. (that's what started this)  They told me about it and I found out more info. because I always thought you had to be vaccinated to go to public school... when I went back to school and apparently if they CAN go to school...at least in my county!

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  • goodheartedmommygoodheartedmommy member

    https://www.thenhf.com/vaccinations_125.htm

    https://www.whale.to/a/children1.html

    909shot.com

    I have a lot of resources linked from other places that I cannot publicly link, but if anyone is truly interested, PM me.

     

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    imageiris427:
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

    OMG please do not compare chicken pox to polio...you're being sarcastic here, right?  RIGHT??? 

    natural immunity means that if your child got it, then youd *hopefully* fight it off and therefore be immune to it thereafter. you do not have to EXPOSE your child to the measles to come full circle. that is ridiculous. its just weighing the pros and cons. 

    and my part about CP was talking about how they can actually get immunity easily.

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
    imageMonkeybuttwhat:

    I'm not going to keep quoting the long line.

    But punk I don't think minority my pedi has a delayed schedule he imposes himself so there are less together.

    Jenny Mcarthy says her son had the flip but yet he is cured now so she says. So maybe it is something in their system that reacts to the MMR that has nothing to do with Autism. At the time these people got these vaccines and the flip was being reported I believe there was still mercury in the MMR. Who freaking knows. What I do know is my situation and that is it nothing more. Both of the boys had autistic signs before the MMR.

    Have you had Aiden get the MMR?

    very possible about the mercury? who knows. 

    and yeah, she got it a few months ago. a little after 2.

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    Please don't assume that we're all trying to avoid autism. I just am a fan of natural immunity.

    Lol at natural immunity...so those that vaccinate aren't using their "natural" immunity?  Except for the immuno-compromised, we all use our immune systems daily.  That's exactly what vaccines are set up to do - use the body's "natural" immune system to fight off these deadly diseases, allowing the person who comes across the disease to have a milder reaction (or none at all) instead of the full-blown disease.  Do you know how an immune system works?  Not trying to be snarky, but just wanted to know if you knew the fundamentals here... 

    Yes, I do. Do you?

    She just described how an immune system works.  And I believe she's been to med school.  Therefore, I'm going with yes on this one.

    Yes, thank you.  I could BORE you with the mundane details and ins and outs of the immune system.  FAR more than anyone would care to know, I'm sure.   

    I've been to nursing school.  While totally not the same...right there with ya on this one!

    Lol, yes...what do we know?  Everyone knows the pharmaceutical companies rewrite our medical curriculum to suit their financial needs, right?  I can't roll my eyes hard enough...it hurts!

    I don't know about you but my nursing school was sponsored by GSK.  LOL! I'm getting my masters next year.  Maybe Pfizer can throw in a couple grand.
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  • brideofaussiebrideofaussie
    imagepunkfiction:
    imageJen0414:
    imageMattsWifey<3:

    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    This is true in PA.  You can claim religious/philosophical freedom or whatever and get a waiver.  It makes me mad.

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
    imagebrideofaussie:
    imagepunkfiction:
    imageJen0414:
    imageMattsWifey<3:

    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    This is true in PA.  You can claim religious/philosophical freedom or whatever and get a waiver.  It makes me mad.

    its true here - we don't have to even have a reason except "philosophical" whatever. (tx), but it was that someone said FL was not that way

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  • Skipperg82Skipperg82 member
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    imageiris427:
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

    OMG please do not compare chicken pox to polio...you're being sarcastic here, right?  RIGHT??? 

    natural immunity means that if your child got it, then youd *hopefully* fight it off and therefore be immune to it thereafter. you do not have to EXPOSE your child to the measles to come full circle. that is ridiculous. its just weighing the pros and cons. 

    and my part about CP was talking about how they can actually get immunity easily.

    Ok i reread your response about 5x and I don't really understand what you are saying.  However, chickenpox (in children, i should stress) is not nearly as serious as some of the other diseases that we vaccinate for.  Most children can bounce back from chickenpox no problem and be immune for the rest of their lives.  Not the case with some of the more serious diseases (regarding bouncing back to health), exposing your children to some of these diseases would result in them having natural immunity, however would it be worth the likely possibility of death?  Not for me! 

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 
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    imageiris427:
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

    OMG please do not compare chicken pox to polio...you're being sarcastic here, right?  RIGHT??? 

    natural immunity means that if your child got it, then youd *hopefully* fight it off and therefore be immune to it thereafter. you do not have to EXPOSE your child to the measles to come full circle. that is ridiculous. its just weighing the pros and cons. 

    and my part about CP was talking about how they can actually get immunity easily.

    Ok i reread your response about 5x and I don't really understand what you are saying.  However, chickenpox (in children, i should stress) is not nearly as serious as some of the other diseases that we vaccinate for.  Most children can bounce back from chickenpox no problem and be immune for the rest of their lives.  Not the case with some of the more serious diseases (regarding bouncing back to health), exposing your children to some of these diseases would result in them having natural immunity, however would it be worth the likely possibility of death?  Not for me! 

    the chance that your child encounters polio (as you mentioned before) is extremely slim.  so you weigh your pros and cons. end of story. iris' comment said "deliberately expose" - and that is not the mindset of anti-vaxers at all.

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    Please don't assume that we're all trying to avoid autism. I just am a fan of natural immunity.

    Lol at natural immunity...so those that vaccinate aren't using their "natural" immunity?  Except for the immuno-compromised, we all use our immune systems daily.  That's exactly what vaccines are set up to do - use the body's "natural" immune system to fight off these deadly diseases, allowing the person who comes across the disease to have a milder reaction (or none at all) instead of the full-blown disease.  Do you know how an immune system works?  Not trying to be snarky, but just wanted to know if you knew the fundamentals here... 

    Yes, I do. Do you?

    She just described how an immune system works.  And I believe she's been to med school.  Therefore, I'm going with yes on this one.

    Yes, thank you.  I could BORE you with the mundane details and ins and outs of the immune system.  FAR more than anyone would care to know, I'm sure.   

    I've been to nursing school.  While totally not the same...right there with ya on this one!

    Lol, yes...what do we know?  Everyone knows the pharmaceutical companies rewrite our medical curriculum to suit their financial needs, right?  I can't roll my eyes hard enough...it hurts!

    I don't know about you but my nursing school was sponsored by GSK. LOL! I'm getting my masters next year.  Maybe Pfizer can throw in acouple grand.

    Well shoot, Pfizer owes me a least that...I had to listen to their nonsense for years!!

    Ok ladies it's been a blast, but my vaccinated child is calling... 

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  • Jen0414Jen0414
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    This is true in PA.  You can claim religious/philosophical freedom or whatever and get a waiver.  It makes me mad.

    This, I just don't think it's "common knowledge". Schools push the vaccination forms on you not saying "other options available"... so one WOULD think you have to have vaccinations unless you did your research. It's kind of good they make people think that  imo. ; )

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    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    I don't understand your question, I think.

    I want my kids to get the chicken pox. I don't want them to get the vaccine because it lasts 20 years (at best). Naturally acquired chicken pox provides lifelong immunity.

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    bc you can get a shingles vax after 60. the cp vax does not = no shingles so more than likely youll get it anyway - so why vax a baby for cp with a live vax when then can just get pox and have it done with?

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    That was not for you. It was for Punk.
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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    This is true in PA.  You can claim religious/philosophical freedom or whatever and get a waiver.  It makes me mad.

    This, I just don't think it's "common knowledge". Schools push the vaccination forms on you not saying "other options available"... so one WOULD think you have to have vaccinations unless you did your research. It's kind of good they make people think that  imo. ; )

    lol that is absolutely ridiculous.

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    imageiris427:
    Oh and to havee natural immunity, you have to be exposed. So are you going to deliberately expose your child to deadly diseases like whooping cough, hib, measles, etc.? That would be insane. And if not, then your natural immunity argument makes no sense.

    what about to chicken pox :) pox parties are all the rave. 

    OMG please do not compare chicken pox to polio...you're being sarcastic here, right?  RIGHT??? 

    natural immunity means that if your child got it, then youd *hopefully* fight it off and therefore be immune to it thereafter. you do not have to EXPOSE your child to the measles to come full circle. that is ridiculous. its just weighing the pros and cons. 

    and my part about CP was talking about how they can actually get immunity easily.

    Ok i reread your response about 5x and I don't really understand what you are saying.  However, chickenpox (in children, i should stress) is not nearly as serious as some of the other diseases that we vaccinate for.  Most children can bounce back from chickenpox no problem and be immune for the rest of their lives.  Not the case with some of the more serious diseases (regarding bouncing back to health), exposing your children to some of these diseases would result in them having natural immunity, however would it be worth the likely possibility of death?  Not for me! 

    the chance that your child encounters polio (as you mentioned before) is extremely slim.  so you weigh your pros and cons. end of story. iris' comment said "deliberately expose" - and that is not the mindset of anti-vaxers at all.

    Right, it's extremely slim because most are VACCINATED...the entire point of being vaccinated.  However, with some of the recent outbreaks (like the measles outbreaks), they are due to anti-vaxers, so the likelihood of being exposed is much greater.  So the whole concept of herd immunity, which is what vaccinations are attempting to create is ruined because of it.

    I don't know why I'm arguing with you though...you vaccinated your children, correct?  So it seems like you get it!  LOL...ok I'm off... 

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    I don't understand your question, I think.

    I want my kids to get the chicken pox. I don't want them to get the vaccine because it lasts 20 years (at best). Naturally acquired chicken pox provides lifelong immunity.

    she said it better. LOL

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  • Sunny1inTucsonSunny1inTucson
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    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    I don't understand your question, I think.

    I want my kids to get the chicken pox. I don't want them to get the vaccine because it lasts 20 years (at best). Naturally acquired chicken pox provides lifelong immunity.

    well, except you can still get shingles later in life due to reactivation of that original virus that lingers in your body.

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  • Jen0414Jen0414
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    unvaccinated children are not allowed in our public schools.

    in june, my eldest got a very mild case of the chicken pox. he was vaccinated at 14mo (8 years ago). he was supposed to receive a booster and never did.

    my dd was unvaccinated at the time. she did not get the pox. a few weeks later, once she was 1, she got it. 

    ds had to miss the last week of school bc of the pox and the school was actually annoyed with us that he got them. 

    this may depend on where you live... I am a teacher and thought this too until I found out when I was pregnant that students could get "waivers" releasing them from the vaccinations. I was shocked and a little upset about this. So, in the state of FL you can go to public school unvaccinated. : (

    ok i was just told today ON THIS BOARD that that is not true in FL at all.

    This is true in PA.  You can claim religious/philosophical freedom or whatever and get a waiver.  It makes me mad.

    This, I just don't think it's "common knowledge". Schools push the vaccination forms on you not saying "other options available"... so one WOULD think you have to have vaccinations unless you did your research. It's kind of good they make people think that  imo. ; )

    lol that is absolutely ridiculous.

    it may be...but it's how things are done apparently, if a kindergartener does not have the vaccination forms necessary they have to be "out of school, until they are vaccinated" but...if they get their waiver claiming what they believe in then they are ok. I'm not saying it makes any sense at all... lol

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    imagegoodheartedmommy:

    imageMonkeybuttwhat:
    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    I don't understand your question, I think.

    I want my kids to get the chicken pox. I don't want them to get the vaccine because it lasts 20 years (at best). Naturally acquired chicken pox provides lifelong immunity.

    well, except you can still get shingles later in life due to reactivation of that original virus that lingers in your body.

    yes and if you wanted to be vaxed for that later out of fear then go right ahead - they have the vax at 60 years old for shingles.

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
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    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    bc you can get a shingles vax after 60. the cp vax does not = no shingles so more than likely youll get it anyway - so why vax a baby for cp with a live vax when then can just get pox and have it done with?

    Um so they don't get pox mark scars duh ;) .

    My pedi doesn't do CP until 5 years old. I have a while to think about it.

    I remember when my sister brought home CP than I got it than my brother. We had a kid with CP in our house for 3-4 months. It was nuts. My poor mother rocking us in a chair us crying from the itching. I was so pissed I had a pock on my nose and everytime I took my shirt on and of it rubbed it more. At the end it came off with my night gown and I still have that scar. Stupid CP.

     

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  • punkfictionpunkfiction
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    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    bc you can get a shingles vax after 60. the cp vax does not = no shingles so more than likely youll get it anyway - so why vax a baby for cp with a live vax when then can just get pox and have it done with?

    Um so they don't get pox mark scars duh ;) .

    lol you can still get CP with the vax. and therefore pox marks ;) 

    actually the cp vax can push it off for longer - and nothing is worse than a case (even small) of pox as a teen. natural immunity at a younger age would end that.

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  • MonkeybuttwhatMonkeybuttwhat
    imageSunny1inTucson:
    imagegoodheartedmommy:

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    I am just wondering no judgment here CP is not a life threatening illness. Why not the CP? Because it is fairly new? I was just wondering only because of the possibility of shingles later in life, that was the only reason I am ok with that one later on. 

    I don't understand your question, I think.

    I want my kids to get the chicken pox. I don't want them to get the vaccine because it lasts 20 years (at best). Naturally acquired chicken pox provides lifelong immunity.

    well, except you can still get shingles later in life due to reactivation of that original virus that lingers in your body.

    Right that was what I thought.my grandfather had shingles when DD was born.  I had to get a ton of info on it before I let hi near DD.

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  • Valentine99Valentine99

    saving for later great points ladies...especially those who aren't BSC

    We delayed vaccines until our daughter was 6 months. I plan to delay the hep B with our next child. Jacquelyn had the hep B in the hospital...I wish I knew then what I know now.

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