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TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


Me: 29 DH:31
Together since 2007
Married 7/2/16
TTC #1 since 7/2017
Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
IUI #3 TBD
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Re: Chart Stalk / Questions - February

  • So what brand does everyone recommend for OPKs? I only have 1 left and will likely need to order more, last time I ordered Wondo off Amazon as a OPK/HPT combo pack and they were fine but was just curious if there was something better I should be getting. I don't want to break the bank and extra points if I can get them Amazon prime :)
  • Gotta love prime! I have been using Wondfos for over a year with no issues. I did do Clear Blue digital this cycle only because that's what my REs nurse recommends. I didn't mind them but I like the ones with lines so I can see my surge progressing.
    kimmer1412EmilyLove25
  • @kimmer1412 I also use Wondfo OPKs and have been for over a year.  It's nice to see that the line is progressing so that I know O is getting close.  I know several people on here also use the Easy @ Home brand, which is basically the same thing as wondfo.


    "It's time to try defying gravity."

    Me: 38  DH: 38
    Married 6/11/16
    TTC Since 6/2016
    12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
    3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
    8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
    7/2018 Clomid+IUI
    11/2018 Letrozole+TI
    12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
     
    My Ovulation Chart


    kimmer1412
  • @kimmer1412 I also use the wondfo and like them a lot and like the price a lot. I take pictures of all my tests so I can see the line progression as I get closer to O. And can compare different cycles too
    kimmer1412lulu1180
  • I've used both Wondfo and Easy at Home. I feel like I like Wondfo better, but honestly, because I'm obsessive, I've used them both at the same time and they're basically the same.
    kimmer1412
  • rikiteacuprikiteacup member
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    edited February 1
    @kimmer1412 I have been using the Wondfo for 6+ months and no issues. They've always been pretty accurate. Temps always confirmed. Plus you can't beat the price. It took me 6 months to use my 50 Wondfos and for $16, this can't be beat.
    TTC #1 since 04/2018
    Me: 36 DH: 37
    Dx: MFI (2 SA with very low count >10 million/ml), right Fallopian tube slightly damaged (blocked)
    01/2019: Husband Dx with a varicocele
    04/2019: varicocelectomy 


    kimmer1412
  •  Thanks ladies, I'll stick with my Wondfo :)

    prpl11butterfly
  • I also like Wondfo and [email protected]! Both have been extremely accurate. I really like using the Premom app with the [email protected] to help with low/high/peak readings (I could probably tell this myself just from looking at them but whatevs).
    TTC #1: September 2013, BFP 01/01/14, DS 09/17/14
    TTC #2: October 2018, BFP 02/02/19, EDD 10/14/19



  • @stephanie123456 What is the premom app?


    "It's time to try defying gravity."

    Me: 38  DH: 38
    Married 6/11/16
    TTC Since 6/2016
    12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
    3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
    8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
    7/2018 Clomid+IUI
    11/2018 Letrozole+TI
    12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
     
    My Ovulation Chart


  • @lulu1180 It's a fertility tracking app (much like all the others) that's sort of like Femometer. You can take a picture of your OPK and it will come back with test/control ratio. I like Premom because it doesn't cost anything for the app whereas Femometer makes you purchase the "premium" to use/store those type of analyzing functions.

    https://premom.com/


    TTC #1: September 2013, BFP 01/01/14, DS 09/17/14
    TTC #2: October 2018, BFP 02/02/19, EDD 10/14/19



    lulu1180misshelen86
  • Feel free to tell me if this is a dumb question lol. I’ve been using the crinone gel for my progesterone supplement for the past couple of days. Will it affect dh at all when we hio? I wouldn’t use it until afterwards but curious if the previous days cream would cause any issues. 
  • @kbrown2385 sorry not sure on this one though I have used crinone gel many times over the past years - we were always told to abstain but that was I believe only because each time I’d had a retrieval (in an IVF cycle) and then a subsequent embryo transfer, so due to the very small puncture wounds from retrieval they like you to abstain to reduce the risk of infection (which is anyhow very very small if you’re with a good clinic).

    However when using crinone, I had so much build up of the gel each day it would not have been at all nice for either of us without a complete “clear out” of the old gel first... 

    Not sure if that helps much at all sorry! 

    Me 40 DH 42
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), plus thyroid issues
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Under Endocrinologist for TSH - once back to normal Hysteroscopy and Transfers can start!
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

    April 2018 TTGP Siggy Challenge Winner



    kbrown2385wabash15
  • Do you notice ovulation pain on both sides?  I feel it, but I swear it is only ever on the right side.  Could it be possibly from having abdominal surgery/scar tissue!  Meaning, maybe it is more centralized, but I can’t feel the left?

    Me: 30 DH:32

    DD 3/11  

    MMC 2/12

    DS 1/13

    TTC #3 since 2/17.  Malignant molar missed miscarriage 8/22/17

  • @emmasemm Thank you! I’m just using it after timed intercourse and our re never said anything regarding abstaining, so I’m assuming there won’t be any issues. I did think about the build up so I guess we can cross that bridge once we get there lol. 
  • K ladies, I'm probably symptom spotting here so feel free to give me a slap on the hand.

    I don't really get any CM in the TWW period but I'm wondering if what I keep finding in my underwear is some kind of very watery CM. Sometimes it's the white stuff from the progesterone suppositories, I can identify that, but sometimes there's a wet spot so I'm wondering if that's just a normal thing with being on the progesterone? Anyone experience something similar?
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
  • @holly321 I normally only feel it on the one side, if I feel it at all. I think I have read other ladies also only feeling it on the one side too. Whether that means it is the side you are actually ovulating from or not....no clue!

    @inthewoods23 I had all sorts of cm with the suppositories, watery, creamy, the works. I chalked it all up to side effects from them. FX that it is something positive for you though. 
    November IVF Spreadsheet
    "Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow!"
    Me: 38 DH: 36

    TTC since: 06/17
    Dx: MFI low morph; Acrosome defect
    IVF #1 November 2018 - 1 blast, fresh transfer BFN


    inthewoods23holly321
  • @nitnat007 I'm hoping! I didn't have this last time.
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
  • Question for those who temp and have used progesterone.

    I started Crinone suppositories on Sat night. I thought since progesterone is what keeps temps up, that I would get higher then usual temps. That does not seem to be the case. My temps are running pretty on par with what I usually get. Is this normal?
  • @prpl11butterfly I'm having the same experience that my temps are in line with what I've had in the past, even with the suppositories.

    Maybe that is normal?
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
    prpl11butterfly
  • @inthewoods23 that makes me feel better!
  • I hope it's okay that I ask this, even though I am not yet TTC.


    At what point do you consider your cycles irregular? If it's been 3mo or more? If your cycle length varies a lot? 
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


  • @thatcma I thought my cycles might be considered irregular since I have had cycles as short as 28/29 days and as long as 39 days. Majority of the time my cycles are between 30-32 days.

    Per my RE my cycles aren't irregular since I do still get my period basically every month. I think cycles longer than 45 days or if you skip months without a period are considered irregular.

    I know they also say if your period is a week late that's still normal. Some variation is typical. But possibly large variations are not. The cycles where I've had 35+ day cycles I have always been able to match to have a very stressful moment during the WTO period. And typically after a long cycle my body adjusts and has a cycle on the shorter side. So variation is normal for me, but somewhat predictable.

    Hope that helps a little 😬

    What's going on with your cycles? Is one really delayed?
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
    thatcma
  • @thatcma I'm not sure what medical professionals consider irregular, but my cycles can be 29-34 days and my doctor considers my cycles to be regular. Not sure if that helps...
    thatcma
  • @inthewoods23 @ruby696 Thank you both! You have answered my curiosity question.

    Nothing too crazy is going on I just have cycles that last anywhere from 27 to 36 days. And there was on occasion I had 2 cycles within the same month (back in June) but hasn't happened again since. I would say it is somewhat predictable based on what you both are saying about your cycles.
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


  • @thatcma if you're temping and/or using OPKs it can be even easier to predict when AF will come, give or take a day. Your cycle lengths are in the normal range so that's good. I don't know if it could be considered irregular if there's not some kind of pattern to your cycle lengths.

    My cycle lengths, for example, when charted on a bar graph is a wave pattern so I generally know how long my next cycle will be. This is from my Flo app once I went off BC. I just find it really neat.
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
    thatcma
  • @inthewoods23 No temping (my sleep pattern is way too unpredictable) and no OPKs since we are no where near TTC and he wants to be more...relaxed this time. I can't take a snap shot of my recent cycles but here is how the lengths have been recently: 25, 28, 29, 26, 31, 31, 35, 13, 29
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


    NYTino24
  • @inthewoods23 I get it during my LP when my estrogen is nice and high - that for me is what drives the volume and wateryness of my CM. Sometimes I have to wear quite a thick pad when I’m in treatment cycles if my estrogen has been really high, as it feels almost like peeing
    So it could be symptom spotting, but it could also just signal that you had multiple mature follicles and thus your estrogen is higher than normal

    @prpl11butterfly the issue with anything which goes up in well, you know, is that you can’t do a blood test to check if you’re absorbing it well enough and if your dose is high enough... I didn’t get noticeable temp rises with only crinone, I needed injectible progesterone too and so my RE assumed for whatever reason either the crinone wasn’t enough or I don’t absorb it properly. However of course one cycle is not really enough to say if it’s a one off or your normal reaction to it. I don’t think it hurts to mention it to your RE just in case next time you’re in contact with them 

    Me 40 DH 42
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), plus thyroid issues
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Under Endocrinologist for TSH - once back to normal Hysteroscopy and Transfers can start!
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

    April 2018 TTGP Siggy Challenge Winner



    prpl11butterfly
  • @emmasemm of course I was on the phone with them earlier for another question. I'll watch my temps for a few more days and shoot them a message if they seem to be "normal" still. 
    wabash15
  • @prpl11butterfly @emmasemm that is interesting about the temp rises. I never even thought of that. I haven’t seen any noticeable difference in my temps either. 
    prpl11butterfly
  • @thatcma Do you use FF? Your cycles sound like mine. Here they are:

    It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*


    Me: 35 DH 34 
    TTC  9/2016     BFP 12/9/16    EDD 8/21/17    MC 1/8/16
    TTC  2/2017  BFP 3/6/17   EDD 11/17/17   vanishing twin at 8 weeks   DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
    TTC 12/2018
    AMA, ITP in pregnancy, and vWD type II - low Factor VIII
  • @NYTino24 I use Ovia and my fitbit tracker. I wasn't sure FF would be that beneficial since I am not temping or tacking CM
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


    NYTino24
  • @thatcma I use Ava and FF, plus my Fitbit. For me, I didn't realize how inaccurate my Fitbit was until I started using Ava/FF. I mean, it was close, but my heartrate doesn't start to increase until a few days after ovulation.
    thatcma
  • @ruby696 are you referring to resting HR? I did not realize that had any correlation in cycles XD
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


  • Yes, it totally does! Watch your RHR as your cycles progress and you'll see it elevate 5-10 points after ovulation. Then it drops once your period starts.
    kiki047thatcma
  • @thatcma I also track my RHR. My last few cycles have been a little wonky because my RHR is also affected by my anxiety (which is through the roof these days) but there's definitely a correlation! 

    Past chart for reference:



    Me: 32  SO: 35

    TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS

    Nov '18: Cycle monitoring, testing w/RE. SA showed count on the low side (19mil)

    Dec '18: Letrozole + TI - BFN

    Jan '19: 30lb total weight loss milestone since Aug '18. Natural monitored cycle + TI - BFN

    Feb '19: Letrozole + TI, repeat SA

  • @ruby696 ; @kiki047 thank you both. I guess even though I am not temping I will start using FF to track HR.
    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


  • Thanks again ladies! One more silly question: when taking BBT small movement (IE rolling over for thermometer) is okay just no major movement or standing right?

    **TW** 
    My DD sometimes still wakes up in the night, would I still record my temp and just note I woke up less than 3hrs before temp?


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Friends: 6/2007

    Dating: 2/2012
    Married: 5/2015
    Member of BMB 7/2017

    DD: 6/27/2017


  • @thatcma as long as you don't get up you should be good. I have a similar issue and haven't noticed much of a difference between nights.
    thatcma
  • @thatcma yep small movement is fine! Although once I did get out of bed and halfway to my closet before I realized I forgot to temp so I got back in bed and temped. The thermometer gave me a temp that wasn't far off from what I had gotten previously so I don't think I affected my chart too much.

    So, if you stand up and realize you forgot to temp, you're probably okay to lay back down and get a temp without throwing things off too much.
    TTGP February Siggy Challenge: Animals in Love


    Me: 29 DH:31
    Together since 2007
    Married 7/2/16
    TTC #1 since 7/2017
    Dx: unexplained, DH's SA shows 1% morph
    IUI #1 12/27/18 - BFN 1/10/19
    IUI #2 1/25/2019 - BFN 2/8/19
    IUI #3 TBD
    thatcma
  • @thatcma:  

    *TW*
    I have that same problem, and blame part of my rocky charts on a 2.5 y/o that co-sleeps with us.  The nights she's super snuggly my temps definitely go higher.  If I wake up before around 2am, then I don't temp.  Since I temp at 5-530 most mornings, if I wake up after 2am then I make a note in my chart that my sleep was interrupted.  It's never caused me to not see temp shift, but my charts never look pretty.


    thatcma
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