I made a thread for nominations, trying to keep discussion to a minimum there so noms don't get lost. Let me know if anyone has anything to add or change to what I have posted!
Holy crap this got long fast! I want to go back and read what I'm sure are a lot of valid points but I want to quickly advocate for a private BMB board. (i'm sure this debate has already taken place on the last few pages)
I know the app has its challenges but isn't Facebook 100x worse? I personally avoid it as much as I can because as much as I love seeing pictures of peoples' kiddoes and families there's just too much toxic noise and sponsored posts. (And because I'm a marketer and already have to spend more time on it than I'd like.) I love the structure of board threads, and I feel like a Facebook group could get really annoying scrolling through loads of comments. Plus, things in groups show up stupidly because of algorithms and junk, while on a board it's easy to see when the last activity on a thread was and jump appropriately. And not everyone uses Facebook - while everyone who's here obviously knows how to use the board. There were multiple moms who didn't use FB in my N16 BMB, which is why we stuck to a private board. A couple of them did reactivate their profiles because they wanted to connect more through that network, but there is still at least one mama not on Facebook who adds a significant presence to our board. I hate to think of her having missed out on the last two years of our growing relationships.
Anyway, sorry again - I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseam and I need to go back and read through what's been said already.
@hoosiermama-2 My D16 board actually has really good organization on FB. Whoever is up posts a daily Randoms thread for people to comment on, and then there are also threads like Smiley Sunday, fitness-specific, etc. We made the mistake of trying to start a FB group too early and only the weirdos went over there (ha, including me). It was MUCH more annoying, with people posting random comments as they wanted. So my point is, there is a way to keep some structure! We just all have to agree to play along (just like here).
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I haven't weighed in on which I prefer, but my DS bmb on FB is great. We post a daily thread everyday, a fitness thread every week, and occasionally have a one off if something important happens. I love being able to comment on comments and not have to tag people all the time. Short term remembery loss is a bitch.
@hoosiermama-2 I'm in two different May 2017 facebook groups. One is a shit show and AW fest and people just post what they want. The other is the one we made after we got to know one another and runs much better. The way we do it is one post/meme/picture a day and people post whatever they want for that day, and then an AW Pic/Video of the day post and people who want to post a picture of their children/pets/whatever they do so there. We also have some random other threads that hang on (meal planning, weight loss, pregnancy announcements, etc.) While it may seem overly organized but it works soooo well. Obviously if someone is having something serious going on they can post their own thread, but it is so easy to comment/like/keep everything all in one place.
This is just such a large group, it's hard for me to imagine not feeling overwhelmed by a Facebook group. A daily thread?! Holy fuuuuq! It makes me anxious thinking about it. And again, I just have my own curmudgeon-y digital marketer & consumer feelings about Facebook.
Re Slack: simply, I think it's overwhelming. I use it for a national org & BOD that I'm on. I set a reminder on my calendar to check in once a week and that's it - I can't have it open because it drives me nutzzzz. I think we could potentially run into paid challenges with storage space if we're posting pictures (which I hope we will be!).
Upon further reflection, I think what actually makes me anxious is the pressure of Facebook - as much as I hate it, I'm on it daily because, life and potty time and waiting in line, etc. With a private BMB, it's easy to check in and out when it feels right for me or as my life's flow allows, with no pressure. Not that anyone expects anyone to participate a certain amount (though our private bmb does have a 3-week rule), but lbs, I (lots of us) put pressure on myself when it's not needed. Facebook is such a real-time thing, which I'm sure lots of people here would appreciate. I'm just not one of them. Again, I like that ability to come deliberately check in on my BMB, whereas Facebook is so ubiquitous and in your face.
This is long enough. Thanks for letting me share my opinions, I'm sure the mods will come to the right consensus for the group - and people can opt in or out as they want! I think in N16 there was an early migration to Facebook but the board stayed relatively active, then 16ish of us migrated to private Bump board after the babes came. Harmony all around.
I've never had a problem keeping up with FB groups. They don't really have the same amount of sponsored ads, and don't filter as stupidly as the feed does. In fact, I'm pretty sure all of mine filter based on last updated, just like here. +1 to @texas_t's short term remembery problem, too.
Can someone comment about whether the private groups on TB are accessible through the app? I've never used those before.
@runrinserepeat Yes, accessible through the app. I have an iPhone.... 7? And it's rare (maybe once a month?) that the app annoys me. My phone is pretty clean though - I have lots of storage, I don't visit spammy sites, I don't have tons of apps. Other people definitely seem to have more problems than I do, though again, I don't know the status of their phones!
I definitely use mobile way more than I can use my actual computer. I find the Facebook app much easier to navigate then this app. However, I have never used a private board and I don’t know if that would be any different than this board.
This got long super fast! I've been reading through just trying to see all the comments before putting in my response.
I get people's hesitations about Facebook, but in all honesty, I think the platform that the majority of people already use daily would be the most effective/efficient for the majority of the group. Slack is a nice option (my hubs uses it at work) but it is another app you'd have to have and remember to look at. Google+ is a no go in my opinion. It never really took off and even though Facebook is connected through your email... it seems scarier to have your Google account directly hooked up to a group! (And not everyone has a google account.)
I haven't been in one of these groups before, but I love the idea of keeping some structure in it like PPs have discussed with certain regular threads that a volunteer would start up on a certain set amount of time (weekly, monthly, etc.)
@kristah2 I can create the survey, especially since it's already started. You want to wait until tomorrow, or EOW or something, though, to catch the stragglers in the nominations post?
I feel like we should wait until EOB tomorrow to see if anyone has any additional thoughts or nominations. Then, I say, let’s start the survey. Thanks for creating it @runrinserepeat
Re: Facebook posts in BMBs. The thought of daily threads stress me out...lol. We just have threads going until they reach maximum comments and stop sending notifications, at 1000 comments. So we have a random thread, AW, questions, vent thread. Plus a few others stragglers like GTKYs, currently potty training, craft thread, etc. We also do a weekly HDBD to post pics of our kids still, and bumps for those of us who are pregnant again. And of course if anyone is going through something major they start their own thread.
@hkom the threads don't usually get that full for a couple months. I actually like it rather than trying to keep up with a new thread daily, or even weekly. I'd be okay with monthly threads, but I'll be honest, I probably won't be able to keep up with daily threads if that's what this board does. It's already difficult here, and sometimes I don't have something to contribute each day, so then I'd have to either miss out on things or "receive notifications" for new threads each day even when old threads are still being used to continue conversations. Daily just does not make any sense to me whatsoever.
@CecilB93 A new thread every day does sound like a lot, but then again I've never done this before. I was thinking weekly or monthly would be manageable.
Omg @CecilB93 that sounds insane. Every group I’ve been in does a daily randoms. Some days I read it, some days I don’t. Big updates are expected to be posted as one-offs, and so any important information is usually easy to find. I can’t imagine keeping a random thread going for months O_O
also fun fact - when the catfish shit came out, we reached the post max several times in the course of a couple of days/weeks. There was just so much to say.
@CecilB93 I think with the way FB sets up their comments, it's much easier to keep up with vs. here. If someone's comment doesn't interest you, you're able to easily ignore all of the replies and just move onto the next comment, whereas on here you have to just scroll through every post even if it's just a mundane tag response to someone. Plus, I've never counted, but we just don't seem to have all that many people here in this group (obviously that may increase, but who knows), so it shouldn't be too crazy trying to keep up.
@runrinserepeat it's really not bad, it keeps the page from getting too cluttered honestly. I can't imagine having to scroll through daily threads, I could maybe handle weekly.
My O16 group does a daily randoms thread too and it's so nice and orderly. If I miss a day or so, I just pick up on whatever day it is. If I want to go back to previous days, I can, but I usually just move on.
I don't really think one thread indefinitely is any less confusing than one thread a day. I almost feel it's more overwhelming... If I need a day or two break, I just pick up on another day.
Holy balls this got long in the few days I was gone! My random unsolicited feedback:
1. I hope I make the cut. I was active towards the beginning, but being stuck almost exclusively on mobile and the glitchy as hell app has taken a toll on my participation, as has the status of TB as a separate app from where I do most of my online living. I don't get notifications to let me know when someone is looking for me so I'm a lot less likely to check it than I am when I see that someone has responded to my comment on Facebook.
2. For much this reason, I probably wouldn't be as likely to make the migration if the platform isn't one I'm already on. I'm sure Slack is awesome, and the private boards here have their pluses, and I know Facebook has it's drawbacks, but until my friends and family all make the migration to a new platform, that's home base for me, social-media wise.
3. I've been on Facebook for more than 14 years now, so I'm very comfortable with it and with using my privacy settings to control access to my profile. Would suggest that if that's the route we go, we maybe have a quick tutorial/Q&A thread on how to lock down your profile. Just because we're in a group together doesn't mean you need to see my activity outside the group (if there is any) nor does it mean anyone outside the group needs to be able to see anything that happens inside the group (up to and including the fact that it exists).
4. Tangentially related to the purpose of this thread: even if we don't end up on FB, that kind of thread on privacy across various common platforms would probably be helpful; we're largely the first generation of parents raising children online from the get go, so there's definitely room for collaboration.
5. I'm okay with accepting all comers whose names are recognizable to at least one of the head honchos, whether they participated heavily or not. When A16 made the big move there were 33 of us. Two were purged for zero participation, one removed herself for limited participation, one left in a dramatic huff, and another eventually decided she needed to step back door personal reasons, so we're down to 28. Some of the folks who were least active on TB are now among the most active on FB, and I'm glad they came along, even if they were enigmas at first.
6. Our daily randoms are the bomb diggity. It goes in fits and spurts whether we're super active (which can mean 300+ comments and replies in a day) or whether we're all pretty chill and only manage 80-90 comments/replies. Keeping it daily means people notice when you don't show up, which makes it easier to do a shout-out or even send a PM to someone who's gone dark for a bit to make sure they're okay. We also do a monthly "Baby Uno" to keep the baby (now toddler!) pictures flowing without ten thousand "look how cute my baby is!" comments on the randoms thread; it helps keep the conversation flowing.
7. I have zero concern over who should be a moderate/admin. I tend not to be an asshole online so I don't anticipate getting moderated much anyway, even if the group tilts towards the elaborate rule/excessive organizing side.
8. I'm okay with an earlier the better approach, but that's pure selfishness talking because I hate this stupid app and I want out.
I agree with everyone who says they'd participate more on Facebook. I am on Facebook daily because it's an app on my phone and it is MUCH easier to use than The Bump app. My May16 BMB group is on Facebook and I love it. Our group started out semi big and about 5 months in a lot of people left because tow people caused a lot of drama and got kicked out, but then a lot of people didn't feel comfortable anymore and left. Now we have a good, solid group of us and it's not overwhelming to keep up at all.
I am also on another May16 group on there from fertility friend and I love that one too. I have no issues keeping up in either group.
I guess what I am saying if I prefer facebook, and I hope I make the cut to join the group!
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DH: 29, SA - Great
Married: June 12,2011
TTC #1: 1/2014
Diagnosis: Hypothalamic Amenorrhea
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I spent the last hour of work reading this yesterday and just finished this morning..holy comments! I agree with the move to FB. I personally voted 1-2 months in advance, but am up for anytime. There's a few gals in D16 who didn't have FB and created a private one just for the group since they were in the minority and it worked well! Daily threads are much more organized and easier to keep up with than TB honestly. I sometimes miss a few days, but get the gist of what's going on. I hope I make the cut too!
It kind of makes me sad to read all of these comments from people say that they hope they make the cut. I cannot speak for everyone, but I feel like anyone whose name the moderators recognize, should be invited. I am pretty sure that everyone in this thread has participated enough for us to be somewhat familiar with your screen name. I just hate the thought of people who have participated and shared being worried about being left out now. This isn’t high school!
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*Loss of Twin 5/2018*
I know the app has its challenges but isn't Facebook 100x worse? I personally avoid it as much as I can because as much as I love seeing pictures of peoples' kiddoes and families there's just too much toxic noise and sponsored posts. (And because I'm a marketer and already have to spend more time on it than I'd like.)
I love the structure of board threads, and I feel like a Facebook group could get really annoying scrolling through loads of comments. Plus, things in groups show up stupidly because of algorithms and junk, while on a board it's easy to see when the last activity on a thread was and jump appropriately.
And not everyone uses Facebook - while everyone who's here obviously knows how to use the board.
Anyway, sorry again - I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseam and I need to go back and read through what's been said already.
TTC #1 January 2016
BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
BFP March 30, 2018 | EDD December 12, 2018
*Rainbow 8/2015*
*Expected Rainbows 12/2018*
*Loss of Twin 5/2018*
Re Slack: simply, I think it's overwhelming. I use it for a national org & BOD that I'm on. I set a reminder on my calendar to check in once a week and that's it - I can't have it open because it drives me nutzzzz. I think we could potentially run into paid challenges with storage space if we're posting pictures (which I hope we will be!).
Upon further reflection, I think what actually makes me anxious is the pressure of Facebook - as much as I hate it, I'm on it daily because, life and potty time and waiting in line, etc. With a private BMB, it's easy to check in and out when it feels right for me or as my life's flow allows, with no pressure. Not that anyone expects anyone to participate a certain amount (though our private bmb does have a 3-week rule), but lbs, I (lots of us) put pressure on myself when it's not needed.
This is long enough. Thanks for letting me share my opinions, I'm sure the mods will come to the right consensus for the group - and people can opt in or out as they want! I think in N16 there was an early migration to Facebook but the board stayed relatively active, then 16ish of us migrated to private Bump board after the babes came.
+1 to @texas_t's short term remembery problem, too.
Can someone comment about whether the private groups on TB are accessible through the app? I've never used those before.
But honestly, my bumping is probably 80% laptop, only 20% app.
I get people's hesitations about Facebook, but in all honesty, I think the platform that the majority of people already use daily would be the most effective/efficient for the majority of the group. Slack is a nice option (my hubs uses it at work) but it is another app you'd have to have and remember to look at. Google+ is a no go in my opinion. It never really took off and even though Facebook is connected through your email... it seems scarier to have your Google account directly hooked up to a group! (And not everyone has a google account.)
I haven't been in one of these groups before, but I love the idea of keeping some structure in it like PPs have discussed with certain regular threads that a volunteer would start up on a certain set amount of time (weekly, monthly, etc.)
We can probably give it until this time tomorrow to let others get nominations in.
Can someone who is good with survey monkey (I think that's what we decided on?) make the survey to pick 5?
I can update the MOD Nom thread with the link to the survey once we have it completed!
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DS2 due 12/12/18
also fun fact - when the catfish shit came out, we reached the post max several times in the course of a couple of days/weeks. There was just so much to say.
DS2 due 12/12/18
I think lack of security online is similar everywhere tbh, so i'd rather take my convenience with FB instead of trying to learn a new platform.
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I like my BMB’s daily thread because we always share a meme to start it
TTC #1 January 2016
BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
BFP March 30, 2018 | EDD December 12, 2018
TTC #1 January 2016
BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
BFP March 30, 2018 | EDD December 12, 2018
Also, our bmb FB does meme per day day!
*Rainbow 8/2015*
*Expected Rainbows 12/2018*
*Loss of Twin 5/2018*
1. I hope I make the cut. I was active towards the beginning, but being stuck almost exclusively on mobile and the glitchy as hell app has taken a toll on my participation, as has the status of TB as a separate app from where I do most of my online living. I don't get notifications to let me know when someone is looking for me so I'm a lot less likely to check it than I am when I see that someone has responded to my comment on Facebook.
2. For much this reason, I probably wouldn't be as likely to make the migration if the platform isn't one I'm already on. I'm sure Slack is awesome, and the private boards here have their pluses, and I know Facebook has it's drawbacks, but until my friends and family all make the migration to a new platform, that's home base for me, social-media wise.
3. I've been on Facebook for more than 14 years now, so I'm very comfortable with it and with using my privacy settings to control access to my profile. Would suggest that if that's the route we go, we maybe have a quick tutorial/Q&A thread on how to lock down your profile. Just because we're in a group together doesn't mean you need to see my activity outside the group (if there is any) nor does it mean anyone outside the group needs to be able to see anything that happens inside the group (up to and including the fact that it exists).
4. Tangentially related to the purpose of this thread: even if we don't end up on FB, that kind of thread on privacy across various common platforms would probably be helpful; we're largely the first generation of parents raising children online from the get go, so there's definitely room for collaboration.
5. I'm okay with accepting all comers whose names are recognizable to at least one of the head honchos, whether they participated heavily or not. When A16 made the big move there were 33 of us. Two were purged for zero participation, one removed herself for limited participation, one left in a dramatic huff, and another eventually decided she needed to step back door personal reasons, so we're down to 28. Some of the folks who were least active on TB are now among the most active on FB, and I'm glad they came along, even if they were enigmas at first.
6. Our daily randoms are the bomb diggity. It goes in fits and spurts whether we're super active (which can mean 300+ comments and replies in a day) or whether we're all pretty chill and only manage 80-90 comments/replies. Keeping it daily means people notice when you don't show up, which makes it easier to do a shout-out or even send a PM to someone who's gone dark for a bit to make sure they're okay. We also do a monthly "Baby Uno" to keep the baby (now toddler!) pictures flowing without ten thousand "look how cute my baby is!" comments on the randoms thread; it helps keep the conversation flowing.
7. I have zero concern over who should be a moderate/admin. I tend not to be an asshole online so I don't anticipate getting moderated much anyway, even if the group tilts towards the elaborate rule/excessive organizing side.
8. I'm okay with an earlier the better approach, but that's pure selfishness talking because I hate this stupid app and I want out.
I agree with everyone who says they'd participate more on Facebook. I am on Facebook daily because it's an app on my phone and it is MUCH easier to use than The Bump app. My May16 BMB group is on Facebook and I love it. Our group started out semi big and about 5 months in a lot of people left because tow people caused a lot of drama and got kicked out, but then a lot of people didn't feel comfortable anymore and left. Now we have a good, solid group of us and it's not overwhelming to keep up at all.
I am also on another May16 group on there from fertility friend and I love that one too. I have no issues keeping up in either group.
I guess what I am saying if I prefer facebook, and I hope I make the cut to join the group!
Me: 31
DH: 29, SA - Great
Married: June 12,2011
TTC #1: 1/2014
Diagnosis: Hypothalamic Amenorrhea
Treatment: Clomid: 50mg, 100mg, 150mg - not successful and not monitored
Menopur 75ml (upped to 112.5ml), Ovidrel, & IUI IUI #1 8/31/2015
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BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
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I agree with the move to FB. I personally voted 1-2 months in advance, but am up for anytime. There's a few gals in D16 who didn't have FB and created a private one just for the group since they were in the minority and it worked well!
Daily threads are much more organized and easier to keep up with than TB honestly. I sometimes miss a few days, but get the gist of what's going on.
I hope I make the cut too!
DS: 12/20/16
EDD: 11/29/18