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    I can't stand Meryl Streep. I don't know what it is about her but I can't watch a movie with her in it.

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    ssthompsssthomps member
    edited February 2018
    I don’t see the point of a Doula. The only reason to have a Doula is if you are a single mother with no family or friends, that can support you during delivery. I get that, but other reasons I don’t get it. Flame Flame Away. 
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    @ssthomps agreed. My brother and SIL just spent a lot of money to hire one. I just don't think it's worth the cost. 
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    I had a doula for my first and she came in very handy considering I knew my DH would be a pile of nerves. And he was. Also, my cat ended up needing emergency vet care the morning I was in labor, so she stayed with me while my husband took care of the cat. I suppose a friend could have helped me, but it was nice to have someone experienced with the labor process. I don’t plan to hire anyone this time, though. 
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    windywomanwindywoman member
    edited February 2018
    @mrsbubbles-2 I wouldn't say I can't stand her but, I don't get the hype. Plus I thought the Devil Wears Prada was stupid! 

    AFM- I don't like Pretty Woman. I never got the appeal of it. Come to think of it I don't know if I really like Julia Roberts. She seems kind of like an a-hole.

    There are actually like 3 opinions in this post. Pick one to flame!   

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    haha @brezzy1928 my mom and I were just talking about Julia Roberts the other day because she accidentally said her name while I was cooking instead of Julia Child. We both were like I don't even like Julia Roberts! I do like Pretty Woman and My Best Friends Wedding but I don't like her in anything else. I agree, she seems like an asshole.

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    I can take or leave Meryl Streep. She's a good actress and all, but some of her movies I don't like.
    I've never had a doula, so I don't think I can really say one way or the other - I think I'd at least need to watch one in action before I made a judgement call.

    My UO is that I don't like Harry Potter. I'm super happy it gets kids to read, but I personally just don't see the appeal.  Don't flame me too bad. ;) 
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    I think if I didn't know I will have my mom by my side during labor I would consider a doula. DH gets squeamish and anxious and can't handle seeing me in pain,so I definitely need someone else with a more soothing presence and childbirth experience there. 
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    Did you guys ever really think about Pretty Woman and how inappropriate it was that we watched it as kids?  I can't imagine letting my kids watch a movie like that now....
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    Isn't Pretty Woman just a modern take on Cinderella? Only instead of the Fairy Godmother, you have Hector Elizondo? :P

    I watched a lot of questionable stuff as a kid, and I think I turned out fine. lol

    I recently rewatched the original Police Academy a few weeks ago. I totally didn't remember all of the F-words, the copious amounts of breasts, or the sexualized nature of a lot of the content. I'm pretty sure I was just fascinated with Tackleberry's antics more than anything. But I certainly don't think I internalized much of the things we find questionable today. *shrug*
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    neeraja_k said:
    Isn't Pretty Woman just a modern take on Cinderella? Only instead of the Fairy Godmother, you have Hector Elizondo? :P


    I don't remember anyone in Cinderalla being a hooker?  That seems very un-Disney esq
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    @calimom2524 I do like my best friends wedding. I forgot about that movie. But, thinking back wasn't she kind of jerk to Cameron Diaz in that? I am going to have to re-watch it. 

    @hezzer78 I don't dislike Harry Potter but, I have never read them or seen any of the movies. I suppose because I haven't I don't get the hype. 

    @livinthesunnylife Yes! She is a hooker for crying out loud!!! Looking back on some of the stuff we watched I am like Wow that is not appropriate for kids at all. 

     
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    @neeraja_k I think it's a modern day Pygmalion/My Fair Lady more than a Cinderella story. 
    @livinthesunnylife I think that about some movies I used to watch as a kid - Grease is one. Rewatching it as an adult and I'm amazed I got away with watching it as a kid.. Then again, I didn't understand half of it at that age. :)

    @melbel0824 Ha! I don't think it's devil related - I just don't care for the story. :) And Unicorns are everything that's right with the world.. <3
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    I agree with @ssthomps I don't understand why you would need or want a doula. I haven't had anyone but the nurses/doctors for either my cs or vbac. You do what you have to do, and it doesn't matter how nice people are about it it hurts but you have to do it. 

    I adore Devil Wears Prada and Mamma Mia, everything else with Streep I could never watch again.She has talent, but nothing that others don't have. 

    I have never seen Pretty Woman, and likely won't ever.  I also can't stand anything with Seth McFarland or his ideas in it. 

    AFM UO I think we should arm teachers/administrators in each building. Special mental health interviews or extreme screenings needed, and mandatory range time each week/month/term but I guarantee if I was able to have a safely stored gun and ammo in my room NO ONE would hurt my students or anyone once it was announced. 


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    @ecwk I'm not crying, you're crying.

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    AFM UO I think we should arm teachers/administrators in each building. Special mental health interviews or extreme screenings needed, and mandatory range time each week/month/term but I guarantee if I was able to have a safely stored gun and ammo in my room NO ONE would hurt my students or anyone once it was announced. 
    eeeek......this falls into the category of politics to me.... 
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    Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts - I could take or leave them both. I like some of their movies, and I love Pretty Woman. As individuals I’m ‘meh’ about both of them. 

    Doulas - I didn’t have one, but I think they’re an amazing option for some people and I absolutely see why people choose to go that route. 
    and ditto to what @ecwk said about single moms and calimom!

    i also do not like Seth McFarland or any show he is involved in. Not my type of humor at all. 

    @livinthesunnylife  yes!! My favorite movies growing up were Grease and Dirty Dancing. Apparently my mom just FFwd through a lot of it since I mainly liked the songs, singing and dancing, but still! 

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    This is not politics, I swear, but we are living in a society where the daily news revolves around school shootings and Trump's alleged affairs with porn stars and sex workers. I don't think a lighthearted movie about a sex worker and a rich dude who mostly treats her with respect is going to harm our kids much other than maybe painting a way too generous depiction of the sex work industry. 
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    edited February 2018
    ssthomps said:
    I don’t see the point of a Doula. The only reason to have a Doula is if you are a single mother with no family or friends, that can support you during delivery. I get that, but other reasons I don’t get it. Flame Flame Away. 
    You know. I've already said what I feel about a doula above but this isn't sitting well with me. I'm a single mother with no friends where I live and an unsupportive family but I don't feel that I need a doula for myself. Single moms can do WAY more than people think they can, we're used to doing it on our own and surviving because that's what we have to do. This comment was pretty damn insensitive. 
    Yeah this comment was pretty insensitive.  No reason to attack single moms.  They do double duty every single day.  And actually doula's are (generally) recommended most for first time moms. 

    I'm happily married to an amazing man and he LOVED having the doula there to help him support me in the best way possible.  She made him better.  She told him what to do to help me.  She made it a better experience for us. 

    This is like saying that you don't see why people need a massage.  Cool, you obviously haven't had one or maybe are envious? 
    I have very little feelings toward this topic. I will not be using a doula because I don't want to spend the money primarily and see it as unnecessary myself. I just take issue with the word "need" here in reference to massages. I sort of think this proves OPs point even more. Sure, do massages and doulas help make something a better experience? Probably. Is is a need or necessity in any way? No, not at all.

    Edited to say that I do have feelings towards the single mom comment and my dismissal is not in regards to that! Some of the single moms in my life are the strongest people I know! What I hope OP was saying is just that maybe someone without any other support might feel the need to have someone in the delivery room. Still not a "need" in my opinion but whatever. TLDR: go single moms!
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    @doctormom33 I see what you're saying too but I think that's kind of the point. OP's point was that she doesn't see why people use a doula and the only reason one would use one is if they are a single mom with no support. I think the point some of us are trying to make is that while a doula is not a necessity, it's helpful for a lot of women who choose to use it. Same as a massage, it's typically not a need but there's no need to categorize the people who choose to get them.

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    ssthomps said:
    I don’t see the point of a Doula. The only reason to have a Doula is if you are a single mother with no family or friends, that can support you during delivery. I get that, but other reasons I don’t get it. Flame Flame Away. 
    You know. I've already said what I feel about a doula above but this isn't sitting well with me. I'm a single mother with no friends where I live and an unsupportive family but I don't feel that I need a doula for myself. Single moms can do WAY more than people think they can, we're used to doing it on our own and surviving because that's what we have to do. This comment was pretty damn insensitive. 
    Yeah this comment was pretty insensitive.  No reason to attack single moms.  They do double duty every single day.  And actually doula's are (generally) recommended most for first time moms. 

    I'm happily married to an amazing man and he LOVED having the doula there to help him support me in the best way possible.  She made him better.  She told him what to do to help me.  She made it a better experience for us. 

    This is like saying that you don't see why people need a massage.  Cool, you obviously haven't had one or maybe are envious? 
    I have very little feelings toward this topic. I will not be using a doula because I don't want to spend the money primarily and see it as unnecessary myself. I just take issue with the word "need" here in reference to massages. I sort of think this proves OPs point even more. Sure, do massages and doulas help make something a better experience? Probably. Is is a need or necessity in any way? No, not at all.
    “Needing” a massage (or a doula) is pretty subjective, wouldn’t you say? It’s not really fair to say they are not necessities just because you yourself don’t view them that way. My husband gets massages to help ease tension pain and as a way to relieve anxiety. Would he die without them? No, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t need them. 

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    @calimom2524 I totally get that and agree. I guess I'm just throwing in my opinion that I understand why some people do those things but could also see why someone would think it was totally unnecessary, especially in a tight financial situation. 
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    The single mom comment was made because I could see if a single mom was going to be in a room by herself why she would want support. My mom was a single mom of three girls so trust I know exactly how bad ass they are. Doesn’t negate that if they don’t have the necessary support why it would make sense for them to hire a Doula. A single mom is faced with a lot more challenges and instead of having support in the delivery room the support may have to stay home to help with the children. This is just an example. 
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    @ecwk our definition of needs are different, and that's okay. No judgement to anyone who thinks massages improve their lives just as I have no judgement towards anyone who thinks a doula improves their birth experience. I personally struggle with the definition of "need" as it's often used as I've watched family members end up in very poor financial situations for things they think they need. 
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    And to also add, during my delivery I had a hand full of nurses and my doctor where such a great support. My husband was a ball of nerves and wasn’t any help. It didn’t matter because the hospital staff that do this day in and day out where there to compensate for his lack of support. 

    I also have a friend that had a Doula who she paid a lot of money for. The Doula did not advocate for her and was no support at all. So there was definitely no benefit to having her there. 
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    ssthomps said:
    The single mom comment was made because I could see if a single mom was going to be in a room by herself why she would want support. My mom was a single mom of three girls so trust I know exactly how bad ass they are. Doesn’t negate that if they don’t have the necessary support why it would make sense for them to hire a Doula. A single mom is faced with a lot more challenges and instead of having support in the delivery room the support may have to stay home to help with the children. This is just an example. 
    While that may be true, you yourself are not a single mom and will never understand the struggle. It was still an insensitive comment, even if your mom was also a single mom that doesn't give you or anyone the right to lump us into a category. I'm sure it wasn't meant in ill will but a simple apology for the insensitivity would have gone a lot further than the "I can make this comment because my mom was a single mom." 

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    @ecwk our definition of needs are different, and that's okay. No judgement to anyone who thinks massages improve their lives just as I have no judgement towards anyone who thinks a doula improves their birth experience. I personally struggle with the definition of "need" as it's often used as I've watched family members end up in very poor financial situations for things they think they need. 
    What she said! Everyones needs are different and often I see people’s “needs” put them in horrible financial situations. 


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    edited February 2018
    @doctormom33 Using the word "need" in reference to needing a massage was intentional.  Maybe it didn't make sense the way I worded it.  But what I was saying is that they might not always be a "need", but who would turn one down?  gimme all the massages.

    ETA: I may not have "needed" a doula, the kid would have gotten out just fine without her.  But was she worth every penny?  Absolutely X5. 
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