Based on discussions in the Baby Clothes thread.. those whose kids wore sleep sacks to bed - until what age did you use them? I stopped when my daughter was able to stand up but her room is so cold and she never stays under a blanket so I'd like her to wear them again. But it seems weird to have her legs confined. I think I've seen some with an open bottom. Even that seems too confined to me but I've never seen them in person.
Any advice from STM+ on getting my toddler to stay the f in her bed at night? I’m totally prepped for a newborn at least. And how to maybe get her to sleep without it being such a production? I’m currently sitting on her floor continuously telling her to lay down.
Note: we’re breaking a cosleeping habit that my mom and stepdad nicely started for me when we have never coslept before. But they kept her almost 2 months while i was sick. So woosah.
@fraufarbissina I stopped using the sleep sack right after his first birthday. I think that was around when she started pulling himself up in his crib too. I’ve been doing fleece footie pjs with a short or long sleeve onesie underneath for bed lately and trying to cover him up.
@Poppy0419 I don’t have any advice but wish you luck and will be checking back to see what advice others have. We are trying to break the cosleeping habit we got ourselves into...
@Poppy0419 I just completely 100% childproof the room, remove any toys or interesting things like that, and close them in. They both figured it out pretty quickly.
@fraufarbissina I think around nine months? He was sleeping flat in his back and not moving during that whole time anyway... I’m admitting to being a bad mom and letting him sleep with blankets fairly early on though... I can’t sleep without a blanket, so I didn’t want to have him be “uncomfortable.”
@Poppy0419 I’m not there yet either, but I’m sorry a new “bad” habit has been created for you and you have to deal with it without spousal support.
@tincupchalice She gets hysterical if she can’t get the door open. She’s an escalator. We couldn’t have done CIO or anything with this girl. She will scream until she pukes. It’s...fun.
@ivyvines6 he comes home Monday and I fully intend to enjoy 2 weeks of not putting her back to bed
@fraufarbissina look up the zippity zips! I never used one, but they can move in them. Maybe it could help? +1 for being the bad mom who’s kid slept with a blanket early on. I did muslin ones until she was bigger.
@fraufarbissina, we stopped using sleep sacks I think when the twins were only a few months old? Like when they started rolling over. We just dressed them warmer and then summer hit so they didn't need much and we used blankets at 11 months.
@Poppy0419 DS does well with a timer. When he has a hard time, I tell him I’ll lay with him until the timer goes off. Usually it works and he doesn’t throw a fit when it goes off. We also got an okay to wake clock to help with getting out of bed. He does okay with it, but sometimes needs a reminder to not come out until it turns green.
@Poppy0419 how old is your toddler? My 2 year old is doing the same thing. Bedtime can take an hour now. I know my older son went though the same thing around that age. We just keep putting him back to bed. He gets the little light on in his room and he can look at books if he stays in bed. If he gets up we turn the light off. It helps some nights. I guess it’s just a stage!
@fraufarbissina we stopped using them around 1 year as well. DS was escaping his crib and we didn't want him getting hurt because he was restricted. He was moved to a big boy bed shortly after that. No issues either. I think it was a good progression: tight swaddle to looser sleepsack to blankets and sheets.
@roomsu shell be 2 in February. I’ve put her back to bed twice in 15 minutes. I’m losing my mind over here. She goes straight to sleep but won’t stay asleep and throws a fit because she’s alone. So I’m sitting on her bedroom floor. Again. In tears. Because every time I fall asleep she wakes up.
@Poppy0419 man I am so sorry you are dealing with that! And as soon as I started responding to you my DS started crying over the monitor Go to sleep babies, and stay asleep!
@Poppy0419 my DD actually went through this a few times, usually during big developmental changes, she also suffered from night terrors, which is an entirely different ball game. The most recent sleep regression was around 2 when she was actually getting scared of things/ dreaming. It was a good 2 weeks of every night when shed wake-up and need to be reassured. Just make the visits quick. She's out outgrown it every time. That's no solace now i know, but she will get past it. What worked forEmmie was she has a night light and she slept with something of mine, a sweater i wore/ "mommys blankey" from my bed so she got the reassurance and i got her this munchkin night light she can keep in bed and turn on when she wants.
Thanks everyone! I probably won't go back to a sleep sack because it's been a while since she's worn one and she's already 1 so it sounds like that's a normal time to stop. @clee5711 it occurred to me to start putting a onesie under her fleece pjs last night and when she woke up this morning her hands weren't as cold as usual so that worked!
@roomsu shell be 2 in February. I’ve put her back to bed twice in 15 minutes. I’m losing my mind over here. She goes straight to sleep but won’t stay asleep and throws a fit because she’s alone. So I’m sitting on her bedroom floor. Again. In tears. Because every time I fall asleep she wakes up.
OH man, only twice? That sounds heavenly!!! The twins are 2 and we've been at this stage or regression for a couple of months to be honest. Some nights it's only 45 minutes, some it's like an hour and a half. No rhyme or reason. And it'll be us putting them back to bed, us getting back into our room, then we turn around and they're right behind us. DD actually walked into our room the other night with her fingers in her ears acting like she couldn't hear us telling her to go back to bed. No clue where she learned that trick!!!
I frickin hate bedtime! After about 6 months we seem to have moved past that getting out of bed stage with my 2.5 your old, but it was a doozy. She’s an escalator, too. Now if we can just get the 5 year old to sleep through the night....
ETA something helpful: make sure you’re awarding the behavior as little as possible- don’t talk to them or hold them when they come out, just walk them back and put them in bed. Make getting out as boring as possible. Also, around 3 we started using the door method where if they come out once you shut the door halfway and if they come out again you shut the door all the way but just for a certain amount of minutes, maybe 2-3. That’s also around the age they start understanding how sticker charts work so that’s worth a try.
@fraufarbissina. We will use a sleep sack here (halo sleep sack so it’s sleevless). It’s cold here and my almost 2 year old loves it. We used the zippity zip ones that cover your arms until about 6 months ago
@suchaglencoco only twice that time some days we duke it out from 2-5am. How you’re doing it with two is beyond me!
@angleyes989 its been a solid 2 weeks but a lot had to do with her coming home and breaking a cosleeping habit too. So it was an uphill battle. The last 2 nights have been significantly better. I put a nightlight in there last night! Thanks for the suggestion!
But knowing that it’s normal and a sleep regression changes my wholeeee mindset on it. It’s easier to handle when you know they’re changing and developing and need you a little more. I’ve spent 2 weeks wondering what I was doing wrong and how I was failing and wondering if I was pushing her to grow up too fast.
@Poppy0419, definitely not just you!! And 2 together can be awful, hahaha. One will be sleeping, the other will wake them up, and then we restart. But it can be adorable. They sometimes walk into our room holding hands or hugging. It's too sweet to get mad at.
@suchaglencoco always the sweetness when we don’t think we can take any more. I get a lot of “thank you mama” at 3am when I’m handing bunny back again. Melts the frustration away until the next wake up!!
@Poppy0419 hope sleep time has been getting better since the suggestions have been rolling in. A couple things we do are “wind down” outside of the bedroom. We also do not keep any toys in the bedroom except books but we read them downstairs before bed. We have a nightlight and he has “friends” that he takes to bed as well as Scout which plays bedtime music in 5, 10, or 15 min increments. As other players have said, if he wakes up I just say it’s still night night time and point to the window to show him it’s dark out then walk up back to bed say goodnight and I love you then walk out.
@Poppy0419 Honestly? I would call it quits for a while and start sleep training again in March. That should give you a little time before the baby is born. With being away from you for so long, and you’re DH out of town, she’s so out of her routine that I don’t see this working out at the moment. I’ve had to backtrack on a lot of stuff like potty training, sleep training etc when I realized that it’s just not going to work, and that’s OK! A lot of parenting advice revolves around total consistency, but in my experience you need to be consistent and flexible, otherwise you’ll lose your mind!!! That being said, if you’d rather plow ahead, I would look into some low dose melatonin (call your pediatrician first of course). Then I would commit to not going in her room for at least 30 mins when she starts screaming. Then go in her room, calmly put her in bed, and tell her to go to sleep. If she gets out of bed and comes into your room, pick her up without making eye contact and put her back to bed. If she throws up, just calmly change her sheets and put her back to bed. Each night, try extending the amount of time you let her cry.
@gildah it’s definitely crossed my mind. I’m just scared because she hasn’t slept in a crib since before Thanksgiving that it will be another huge change. DH will be 2 weeks here and a month gone for a long time so there’s no good time to do it. And she TOTALLY senses I’m overwhelmed. She like thrives on that.
Shit mom moment: she’s on melatonin because she escalates so bad. It helps SO. MUCH. I think once DH is home Monday we’re going to work on the sleep training part. That’s not something I want to handle alone for sure.
@poppy0419 - you are not a shit mom. Being a mom is rough sometimes and you are doing the best you can. If that means she needs melatonin then that’s what she needs right now. That doesn’t mean you are a shit mom. Hang in there!! Hugs lady
Has anyone had an amnio before? If so, would you mind sharing why you needed it and how uncomfortable it was?
I'm going to need to decide on Monday if I want to get an amnio and I just feel totally unprepared to make the decision. I understand medically what it done and why but I'm looking for some anecdotal relevance.
Also, anyone else getting Amazon spam taking over their app? I'm barely able to function in this ridiculous app without the spam and now I'm nearly crippled with it.
Also, anyone else getting Amazon spam taking over their app? I'm barely able to function in this ridiculous app without the spam and now I'm nearly crippled with it.
Fuck you, spam and bump app.
I haven’t had that happen on my mobile app. Do you have an iPhone?
Has anyone had an amnio before? If so, would you mind sharing why you needed it and how uncomfortable it was?
I'm going to need to decide on Monday if I want to get an amnio and I just feel totally unprepared to make the decision. I understand medically what it done and why but I'm looking for some anecdotal relevance.
It was super unpleasant for about 45 seconds (while the needle was in), then some cramping for 24 hours. Definitely not something I would choose to do again, but in the scheme of pregnancy pain and labor, it’s over before you know it. The stress is worse than the actual procedure
@thedawkterswife I have had the Amazon spam quite a few times (Android also), which results in me having to close out of the app completely and then find where I left off. It hasn't happened yet tonight, but im sure it will any minute!
@thedawkterswife in having the amazon spam problem too (android). I thought my phone got a virus of some sort. I have to close out the app and restart it, it's been a pain in the rear side.
@thedawkterswife i think if there's something you can gain from it, it's worth it. They are so routine these days.
@Poppy0419 i agree with @gildah. You can also try Benadryl for a few days. Sometimes it just helps reset. As for melatonin, DD1 takes it every single night. I don't love that she needs it, but i think accepting that she does makes me a good mom. Without it, bedtime was horrible for everyone and she want getting enough sleep. Now it's pleasant and I'm not worried she's sleep deprived. We haven't figured out why she can't sleep without it, but she really, really can't. (Over the summer we went to Disney. We left the house at 3:30am to catch our flight, went straight to the parks, and stayed for the fireworks. Got in the car at 9:30pm. So awake and super active for 20 hours was the only time in 4 years she feels asleep without it.)
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Note: we’re breaking a cosleeping habit that my mom and stepdad nicely started for me when we have never coslept before. But they kept her almost 2 months while i was sick. So woosah.
@Poppy0419 I don’t have any advice but wish you luck and will be checking back to see what advice others have. We are trying to break the cosleeping habit we got ourselves into...
@Poppy0419 I’m not there yet either, but I’m sorry a new “bad” habit has been created for you and you have to deal with it without spousal support.
@ivyvines6 he comes home Monday and I fully intend to enjoy 2 weeks of not putting her back to bed
@fraufarbissina look up the zippity zips! I never used one, but they can move in them. Maybe it could help? +1 for being the bad mom who’s kid slept with a blanket early on. I did muslin ones until she was bigger.
until the timer goes off. Usually it works and he doesn’t throw a fit when it goes off. We also got an okay to wake clock to help with getting out of bed. He does okay with it, but sometimes needs a reminder to not come out until it turns green.
Go to sleep babies, and stay asleep!
What worked forEmmie was she has a night light and she slept with something of mine, a sweater i wore/ "mommys blankey" from my bed so she got the reassurance and i got her this munchkin night light she can keep in bed and turn on when she wants.
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How long has it been going on?
The twins are 2 and we've been at this stage or regression for a couple of months to be honest. Some nights it's only 45 minutes, some it's like an hour and a half. No rhyme or reason. And it'll be us putting them back to bed, us getting back into our room, then we turn around and they're right behind us. DD actually walked into our room the other night with her fingers in her ears acting like she couldn't hear us telling her to go back to bed. No clue where she learned that trick!!!
It's definitely not a fun stage.
ETA something helpful: make sure you’re awarding the behavior as little as possible- don’t talk to them or hold them when they come out, just walk them back and put them in bed. Make getting out as boring as possible. Also, around 3 we started using the door method where if they come out once you shut the door halfway and if they come out again you shut the door all the way but just for a certain amount of minutes, maybe 2-3. That’s also around the age they start understanding how sticker charts work so that’s worth a try.
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@poppy0419 so sorry you’re having a tough time. I don’t have any advice, just to say I hope it
gets better soon.
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@angleyes989 its been a solid 2 weeks but a lot had to do with her coming home and breaking a cosleeping habit too. So it was an uphill battle. The last 2 nights have been significantly better. I put a nightlight in there last night! Thanks for the suggestion!
But knowing that it’s normal and a sleep regression changes my wholeeee mindset on it. It’s easier to handle when you know they’re changing and developing and need you a little more. I’ve spent 2 weeks wondering what I was doing wrong and how I was failing and wondering if I was pushing her to grow up too fast.
And 2 together can be awful, hahaha.
One will be sleeping, the other will wake them up, and then we restart.
But it can be adorable. They sometimes walk into our room holding hands or hugging. It's too sweet to get mad at.
That being said, if you’d rather plow ahead, I would look into some low dose melatonin (call your pediatrician first of course). Then I would commit to not going in her room for at least 30 mins when she starts screaming. Then go in her room, calmly put her in bed, and tell her to go to sleep. If she gets out of bed and comes into your room, pick her up without making eye contact and put her back to bed. If she throws up, just calmly change her sheets and put her back to bed. Each night, try extending the amount of time you let her cry.
Shit mom moment: she’s on melatonin because she escalates so bad. It helps SO. MUCH. I think once DH is home Monday we’re going to work on the sleep training part. That’s not something I want to handle alone for sure.
I'm going to need to decide on Monday if I want to get an amnio and I just feel totally unprepared to make the decision. I understand medically what it done and why but I'm looking for some anecdotal relevance.
@thedawkterswife I believe @sparklingdiamond had one recently.
Fuck you, spam and bump app.
@thedawkterswife - I do not have any experience with aminos but I just wanted to say I will be thinking of you.
Mama is gonna lose her shit soon! Lololol
Happy I'm not the only one with Amazon spam but sad we are all experiencing it. Like this app wasn't shitty enough already.
@thedawkterswife i think if there's something you can gain from it, it's worth it. They are so routine these days.
@Poppy0419 i agree with @gildah. You can also try Benadryl for a few days. Sometimes it just helps reset. As for melatonin, DD1 takes it every single night. I don't love that she needs it, but i think accepting that she does makes me a good mom. Without it, bedtime was horrible for everyone and she want getting enough sleep. Now it's pleasant and I'm not worried she's sleep deprived. We haven't figured out why she can't sleep without it, but she really, really can't. (Over the summer we went to Disney. We left the house at 3:30am to catch our flight, went straight to the parks, and stayed for the fireworks. Got in the car at 9:30pm. So awake and super active for 20 hours was the only time in 4 years she feels asleep without it.)