January WTO

vlagrl29

That's a bunch of shit @dpjennifer I'd be pissed too. I'd voice your concern. Sucks your out a cycle. I don't know what you look like or how much you weigh but aren't these doctors aware that overweight people get pregnant all the time? I'm sorry you're dealing with this esp since you were ok to try clomid. I eat pretty well, am active and my weight is fine and I'm still not pg. doctors are freaking annoying sometimes.

coco2787

Oh my gosh @dpjennifer I would be so upset.  I’m so sorry they’re giving you the run around like that.  That’s so unfair 

Mack2342

@dpjennifer I’m so sorry.  That is such BS!   If they have found nothing medically wrong I don’t think Weight has much to do with it.  So annoying.  

cassafrass15

@tosh24 Oh my goodness 22 eggs is great news! FX for a great fert report. Also, I know some clinics will only do frozen transfers because they have a higher success rate. Maybe a blessing in disguise that you have to wait?

@dpjennifer Girl, my last RE berated me about losing weight. And I’m not even medically “overweight” for my height. I’m cushy, and I could stand to lose weight, but my 25yo niece is on successful pregnancy #2 and she’s pushing 325lbs. I told the RE all of this, and that I’m active and eat healthy, and he suggested I go vegan. Huh? Needless to say, I quit seeing him shortly thereafter and my current RE is completely unconcerned with the junk in my trunk. Are there any other REs in your area? Maybe you can find one who is a little less condescending and arbitrary? 

AFM: CD 9 here and I’m still spotting from AF. Usually the clomid shortens my cycle, and I had hoped the laparoscopy would improve my horribly long and heavy periods. Guess not! Supposed to go in for a monitoring appointment Weds to see where things are at. Then hopefully an IUI on Thurs or Fri. Just over here waiting, waiting, waiting. As per usual.

As an aside, a friend of mine who has been struggling with infertility for more than 10yrs announced her pregnancy just before the new year, only to have to announce a MC this past week. I think I cried more for her loss than I have for any of my own. I reached out to her, but I wish there was something more I could do. Ugh.

vlagrl29

@cassafrass15 oh I'm so sorry for your friend! How devastating

im cd 10 today so we will start BD this week. I woke up this morning worrying about the financial aspect of an RE that we see on tues. had to talk to dh about it tonight. We have enough cash saved for 2 maybe 3 months treatment and that's it. I don't want to go into debt for this and I don't want to touch our emergency fund. This is our last natural cycle before we do this. Oh how I wish I didn't have issue with clomid with an OB without monitoring. Gosh it would be so much cheaper. 

40momma

@dpjennifer excuse my language but that's freaking bullshit. I'm no doctor but I highly doubt an extra 20 lbs is causing FOUR miscarriages. Shame on them for insinuating that 

pumpkinpancake

@dpjennifer ugh I’m so frustrated for you. Sorry your RE is being like that. It sounds like maybe a new dr would be better for you if that’s an option? Plenty of overweight women have successful pregnancies, and like others have said, I’d be shocked if that was the only issue at hand causing your miscarriages. 

AFM, CD 8 today, and im just waiting now for my saline ultrasound with the RE on Wednesday. I’m getting more nervous as it’s getting closer, but hopefully she won’t see anything concerning and she’ll give me the green light to start trying again. 

vlagrl29

well CD10 over here and already having EWCM - crazy! Seems early to me.

tosh24

@dpjennifer That's a load of shit (excuse my French). If your RE really won't treat you, I'd look for another one. I hope maybe it was just a miscommunication between file notes and the nurse and you can still salvage this cycle. You can also do Clomid CD 4 - 8 instead of CD 3-7, so hopefully all is not lost.

vlagrl29

my OB said I would take clomid days 5-9 - not sure what the difference would be.

dpjennifer

Thanks guys... RPL has made me depressed enough, I don't need to be a mess about how fat I am too!  When I was all PO'd sitting on the couch Sunday night I told DH that if I lost this 20 lbs. and got PG and had ANOTHER MC I was going to scream my head off at the RE like he couldn't imagine....

cassafrass15 Ugh, this is my SECOND RE. I'm so sick of all the doctors and specialists. Nobody has a clue as to what our problem is. DH doesn't want to consider IVF or look into adoption either. So, we're pretty much at the end of our road. I said 2 more MC and I would be done. I was hoping the clomid would help, as it's one of the last things we can actually do... but... apparently it sounds like it's going to be held over my head until I lose 20 lbs. *sigh*
tosh24 I'm hoping the doctor can be reasoned with as well. Especially since I'm not 'morbidly obese' or anything like that. He legit told me he wanted me to lose 21 lbs. to be in an 'acceptable range' for whatever statistic he was giving months ago. Still haven't heard from RE so it's definitely out this cycle. Maybe can be salvaged for next cycle?
vlagrl29 Apparently since I have longer cycles (35-37 days usually), they would want to put me on CLomid starting CD 3, so that I could hopefully get closer to a 28 day medicated cycle and we could time BD correctly.

vlagrl29

I'm sorry for all the stress @dpjennifer - My RE did say today that if you have a longer cycle clomid can make it more in a normal range so I can see that being a good route for you. She said it shouldn't change up my cycle much because I have a 29-31 day cycle. It is annoying they are holding the weight over your head. I know my OB was ready to hand the clomid to me back in August but I wasn't ready and nervous about doing it with an OB w/o monitoring to see how I react to it. I have anxiety enough already. I myself try and stay away from doctors but I know it's hard to when you are having trouble conceiving or having losses. Do you think they would let you take clomid next cycle or do you really have to loose 20 lbs. I guesstimate that would be 4-5 months if you loose an average of 1 lb per week. If they wouldn't would you try and find another RE that wouldn't hold the weight over your head?

Jamps728

Ok - so I've never really been active on these (or any) boards, so please let me know if I'm doing something out of turn (or on the wrong board, etc.).  So I'm on CD 8 and this is our first cycle off the bench since our D&C in September (and I got a new job so we took some time hoping that if we do get pregnant I'll be covered by FMLA).  I'm using Wondfo tests, a fertility monitor, and BBT.  At this point I'm just anxious and the waiting is killing me.  I hate waiting (as I'm sure we all do).  So here's hoping!

vlagrl29

@Jamps728 welcome! I'm on cd 12 and we started the BD last night. I just track O by cervical mucous. The fertile stuff started yesterday and is still going on tonight. 

coco2787

Welcome @Jamps728 this is a great board!  We also have a good TTCAL group in Trying to Get Pregnant if you want a board that's a little more active.  

dpjennifer

vlagrl29  I’m not sure what they’ll do. Not sure if they’ll let me try Clomid next cycle, or if they’re sticking to their guns about the 21 lbs. I haven’t heard back and haven’t been in the mood to call them. I hated the first RE we went to, and liked this one better-except for the weight comments I like working with him better. I really don’t want to have to go to a third place. *sigh* But I’m signing up for BeachBody and going to do one of their things and try their Shakeology and hopefully drop a few pounds… so maybe by the time I feel like calling them up I’ll have lost a pound or so and it will help convince them?

Jamps728 Welcome.

vlagrl29

@dpjennifer- I totally understand not wanting to call them or deal with it right now.  I've heard beach body is a great program with the shakes.  I'm glad your getting healthy

acciocoffee

@Jamps728 Welcome! The waiting is pretty horrible. This is my first cycle off the bench and it is going by so slowly. I'm only on CD11 and I probably won't ovulate until CD18.

zamoraspin

@dpjennifer Didn't you already lose some weight and have to push to get your testing done? Jeeze. I hate how often medical professionals fall back on weight when they don't have another explanation. My BMI is a little under 27 (overweight) and to her credit my RE has NEVER mentioned my weight. Also, my RE hands out clomid like it's candy. 

40momma

I hate the weight topic. I'm 5'3" and 160 lbs but I'm a 32E in European bra sizes so from what I've read my boobs probably weigh about 20 lbs. So if were flat chested I'd be 140lbs and considered normal weight but instead my BMI comes in at 28 and considered overweight. The curse of the tatas. 

Mack2342

@40momma I have the curse of Tatas too!  I’m about 20 lbs overweight too according to scale and drs.  My RE has never mentioned my weight however orthopedic dr did and told me it was important to stay at healthy Weight.  I just looked at him and said I gained 70lbs with my son and lost 50 fairly quickly but this last 20 won’t go away and part of reason I’m seeing you is I can’t move like I used to since I have arthritis and bone spurs in my hip.  And basically said he can’t help me now cuz I’m too young.  Funny how I’m old to have a baby though.   Anyway I used to weigh what I way now but didn’t work out back then and wore a larger size clothing.  I work out now not as much as I did pre DS but still a couple days a week and while I weigh the same I wear smaller size than I did back then so the number on scale isn’t everything! 

vlagrl29

I gained 70lbs too with my pg @mack2342 - thought I was the only one.  40lbs was water weight that came off in 1 month and I worked the remaining 30 lbs off by her first bday.  Combination of eating clean and going to the gym 4 days a week.

dpjennifer

zamora_spin Yes, I lost 10 lbs., then told them to STFU and give me the biopsy... and then proceeded to gain the 10 lbs. back over the holidays and stress. *sigh* So back to where I was when he originally told me to lose the 21 lbs. Ugh. I need an RE that doesn't mention weight and hands out clomid like it's candy! Is yours anywhere near the DC area?  LOL.

40momma  Amen sister! My tatas are G's... so yeah, I feel you there. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm spongy in other places I need to work on losing weight... but the girls are definitely a huge chunk of change! I want a breast reduction, but figured I'd do the baby thing first (I mean, why 'fix' the up if they're just gonna get messed up again with kids). Have half a mind to do the breast reduction and then be like "OK, now I'm down 20 lbs and all I did was shrank my boobs... now what RE?"

zamoraspin

@dpjennifer I think it would be a 10 hour drive so probably a no go. I imagine at least you have more of a selection where you are? We are lucky that there are two clinics in our mid-sized city and one of them is very good - everyone I've ever met here who has struggled ttc has gone to our clinic. But if we didn't like our clinic we'd have only one other option (the one no one has ever recommended) otherwise have to drive two hours. I would see if you can push more on the clomid. I think the weight thing seems arbitrary. I know your dr said maybe your eggs aren't mature enough, but mine said for them to get fertilized they have to be mature. However, my RE started me at 100mg of clomid to see if we could get some extra eggs cooking in the hopes we might end up with a good embryo for once. Idk, different strokes. I have a monitoring appt on CD11 so I'll be able to see this cycle if the clomid is doing anything. Tbh if I don't get ku this cycle on it I may not do it again (even though she gave me a three month prescription). 

dpjennifer

zamora_spin  I do have options but I've been to the 2 main places recommended. Just frustrating and since we're done with testing I really don't want to have to switch. Again. Guess I'll try to push more on the clomid.

splashmountain

Last time I saw my ob was just a few months after the MC and at that time, I wasn't sure when I planned on ttc. This morning i had my pap and I told her we've been ntnp for a few months. She didnt tell me to stop, but she said she'd really like to see me lose 10 lbs before getting pg and since I have a history of gd she wants me to start my low carb diet now. It all makes sense, but I need pizza and potatos on my life! Lol, oh well.

I guess I'm in a similar boat as you @dpjennifer, let's drop some weight!

dpjennifer

pumpkin0913 Ugh.. sorry your doc is harping on the weight too. I enjoy pizza and carbs too.   BUT baked goods are mmm.... and ice cream... ugh. Must. Stop. 

splashmountain

Mmm baked goods! Cutting carbs is hard, all the good stuff is full of em!

vlagrl29

Cd14 and we are on track with BD, I should O soon. We had a snow day today so that was nice. Deep cleaned our family room. 

coco2787

CD 3 over here, first AF after my loss.  Really hoping I ovulate this cycle.  

Kath525

@vlagrl29 nice to get some cleaning done! We have no snow on the ground here. But it is bitter cold. I'm jealous.

AFM cycle day 7. Oh, the waiting game.

zamoraspin

I am currently setting a record for earliest fertile CM - CD6 here and watery CM today. Since my HSG my CM doesn't have much of a pattern. 

mrsjcrane

Back in the WTO thread again...CD 1

vlagrl29

You know ttc has lost some of its romantic side when you hint to dh about BD and he sighs says he's tired but then asks how much more window we have and I pull out my calendar and count cd days....sigh

tosh24

@vlagrl29 That is the exact reason DH got so stressed out TTC DS and wanted to stop. I even called my sister to come and get all my old baby stuff from DD because I wasn't going to need it again. This is also the reason why it took us 4.5 years to go back to an RE this time around - we were just worried about the stress of it all. Funny enough, having medical intervention actually lessened our stress. Now we can have sex because we want to have sex since the doctor is taking care of the reproduction part lol! TI can be exhausting and a lot of pressure so I feel for you.

AFM, CD 1 today so I'm moving over here. Although technically I'm not WTO because the doctor is suppressing O so the embryo transfer can be better scheduled. I will start my estrogen tomorrow and be on it until at least CD 14 when I go for my u/s (Jan 27th). If my lining looks good, I will add in progesterone the next day with a FET date of February 1st!!!

vlagrl29

@tosh24 It's also why I stopped using an OPK and only ever did 1 month of bbt - it just stressed me the F out.  I'm not actually stressed about the sex part anymore and neither is DH but it would be that way if I was tracking O.  I figure if I do clomid next month with timed sex that might lessen thinking about when to because I'm sure she will tell us when to BD.  But I feel your DH, I'm getting close to wanting to stop it all.  It's just not worth it to me lol - as it still very well could happen because we are in normal ranges on everything.  I'm actually going to stop some of my supplements soon.

zamoraspin

@tosh24 I'm so excited for your FET! I hope it all goes smoothly. 

AFM I went to a new acupuncturist over the weekend. I did acupuncture for a few months a while back and found it generally relaxing but wasn't confident my acupuncturist really was focusing on the fertility aspect (he asked me almost no questions). This new practice the guy (there are three acupuncturists there) asked me a lot of questions about diet, my cycle, etc. He also made some suggestions and said he might send me home with herbs the next appt. Not sure if I will take the herbs but I overall feel like this practice has more experience with fertility issues. He did say in Chinese medicine they recommend waiting 6-8 months after loss to try again and I was like, NOPE, but he said he understood and many patients they have do not follow that guideline. I am trying to do every thing I can think of to make this cycle a success, including no coffee and booze (well, I've had one half of a cocktail since this cycle started). 

vlagrl29

Well tonight I asked dh if he preferred tonight or tomorrow night for sex and he thought the FW was over. I said we should get 1 more in. He said tomorrow night. Oh how the trigger shot sounds more appealing to me now lol.

@zamora_spin omg to the 6-8 month wait after a loss. Who are they kidding!

eranvo27

Checking in late, been a rough week or so. Cd10, no clue when I'll ovulate. 2 cycles ago I was at 37 days total, last cycle was 47 days. I am focusing on cutting carbs and sugar and will start working out again soon. I just hate the not knowing when I will ovulate. SO of course is fine with TBD every other day lol! I will try to catch up on everyone's posts this weekend. Hugs to all who could use them!!! 

vlagrl29

I'm moving onto TWW - we didn't BD last night.  I felt kinda meh and tired although DH offered.  I'm sure I o'd by now anyways.