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Monday and Beyond B*tchfest | 12.18

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Re: Monday and Beyond B*tchfest | 12.18

  • My boss literally thinks I'm being too hard on her and not training her properly. That I need to give her a chance. Plus she's soooooo busy she doesn't have time to discuss it. She's setting it up for this to be all my fault when this woman doesn't know how to do shit. I keep saying "you took notes on this yesterday. We did printouts. We wrote everything down. You have this." and she just ignores me and acts like this is a brand new thing that she's never ever seen before.

    New thing now....she's acting offended when, after watching her struggle to read what's on the computer screen, I point out where she needs to click or what Excel field she needs to be in. She says "I would have found it." You wouldn't have found it turning to me with a blank "What do I do now?" look on your face!

    8 weeks....I have 8 weeks of dealing with this shit.
    Those women I mentioned? One of our colleagues was showing her how to input data in a tracker that she was supposed to have been updating for at least a year. Clearly, she wasn't doing it. So the colleague was showing her how to put in data, and had to show the woman how to copy/paste in Excel. Then when colleague said "ok, now insert a row," she looked at him with a blank look. I just....



    And she's on the same pay level as us. It's mind-boggling what people can get away with when management doesn't do their job. Makes me think I'm a chump for trying so hard to be good at what I do.
    This! Exactly this!

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  • Chawk17 said:
    I just have to say after reading these horror stories of temps....im glad I teach first grade. 
    1- my person has to have gone through ed program-- so qualified.
    2- first graders are great at telling subs they're doing it wrong...so I have 21 little bodies to help keep order.
    3- it's first grade...how bad can she mess up. 
    I agree with this!! Plus the substitute that's filling in for me is actually the music teacher whose job I got when she retired so I know the kids will be fine while I'm gone. 
  • Chawk17 said:
    I just have to say after reading these horror stories of temps....im glad I teach first grade. 
    1- my person has to have gone through ed program-- so qualified.
    2- first graders are great at telling subs they're doing it wrong...so I have 21 little bodies to help keep order.
    3- it's first grade...how bad can she mess up. 
    I agree with this!! Plus the substitute that's filling in for me is actually the music teacher whose job I got when she retired so I know the kids will be fine while I'm gone. 
    Even better, a professional! Probably has great management- knows all grade levels. 
  • @chucksmom15 The copy/paste and line insertion issue was my coworker, not @rainafire77's, but they sound like they may on the same level of competence. This woman is also older, and she says she's an editor not a software engineer and I'm like "Yeah, not in 2017. You have to know software." Plus one does not need to be a software engineer to know how to use computer programs like Excel.

    As an editor, I'm deeply troubled that I share a profession with this woman. 
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  • @rainafire77 sounds like a nightmare. I echo everyone else’s suggestions and encourage you to keep venting here! 
  • Ok so possible good news update: after lunch the woman decided to start writing very good & detailed notes and organize them so she can use them.

    Wonder why no one said anything to her about doing that in the first place?


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  • @chucksmom15 The copy/paste and line insertion issue was my coworker, not @rainafire77's, but they sound like they may on the same level of competence. This woman is also older, and she says she's an editor not a software engineer and I'm like "Yeah, not in 2017. You have to know software." Plus one does not need to be a software engineer to know how to use computer programs like Excel.
    This is what happens when my job interferes with my Bumping.  I can't keep posts straight lol
  • @rainafire77 this woman sounds like a nightmare, but at least it seems like she's willing to start working a little harder to learn .... whenever I encounter someone with this level of cluelessness I wonder how they survive day-to-day life...
  • @rainafire77 So how goes today? Any better? 
  • @ldawngirl781 So far better. She still took the exact same notes for doing the banking as she did the other days but at least she remembered some of what she did yesterday. I guess that's improvement?

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  • She just said "I don't want to learn anything new today. Can we just do what we've gone over already?" Lady, we've spent a week on daily work that you STILL haven't gotten and done a smidgen of the month end work that needs to actually be completed by the end of next week. Fuck me sideways with a broken broomstick. I may strangle her yet. 

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  • @rainafire77 So, maybe this is the hormones talking, but is there any reason why you can't actually call her out on this BS? I mean, you don't have to work with her once you're on mat leave, she's not your superior and if you have a s****y relationship, who cares? 
  • @rainafire77 So, maybe this is the hormones talking, but is there any reason why you can't actually call her out on this BS? I mean, you don't have to work with her once you're on mat leave, she's not your superior and if you have a s****y relationship, who cares? 
    Nope. Can't call her out because boss will get on me for being too hard on her and being emotional. I've tried to sit down with boss twice today about it and she's blown me off. We have a 4 day weekend and then 3 days next week. Boss is going to start bugging me about month end shit getting done because they have a board meeting week after next and it's not going to be done because this woman can't grasp the concepts. It's ridiculous & when I walk out on leave with her knowing nothing because my boss won't listen to me and this woman is incompetent, I'm going to write a letter to HR expressing my concerns and the attempts I've made to both train this woman and let my boss know. Then I've covered my ass and they can deal with the bullshit. I've already let HR know how it's going and she's as frustrated as me because she feels I've been set up for failure because of my boss refusing to start the hiring process sooner. 

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  • @rainafire77 Wow! Damned if you do, damned if you don't. At least HR seems to have a good handle on what's happening. Hopefully that gives you some comfort. 
  • @rainafire77 I think your plan is a good one. Do what you can, control what you can, document problems, and wash your hands of it when the time is right. 
  • @rainafire77 So, maybe this is the hormones talking, but is there any reason why you can't actually call her out on this BS? I mean, you don't have to work with her once you're on mat leave, she's not your superior and if you have a s****y relationship, who cares? 
    Nope. Can't call her out because boss will get on me for being too hard on her and being emotional. I've tried to sit down with boss twice today about it and she's blown me off. We have a 4 day weekend and then 3 days next week. Boss is going to start bugging me about month end shit getting done because they have a board meeting week after next and it's not going to be done because this woman can't grasp the concepts. It's ridiculous & when I walk out on leave with her knowing nothing because my boss won't listen to me and this woman is incompetent, I'm going to write a letter to HR expressing my concerns and the attempts I've made to both train this woman and let my boss know. Then I've covered my ass and they can deal with the bullshit. I've already let HR know how it's going and she's as frustrated as me because she feels I've been set up for failure because of my boss refusing to start the hiring process sooner. 
    Good call on documenting to HR! Could they keep looking for possible replacements and see if they can find someone better?
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  • Glad HR is backing you up @rainafire77!!
  • @mamaof5already Not enough time to get someone brand new in & start over with training.

    @chucksmom15 My HR director is awesome. She firmly believes that HRs responsibility is to back up her employees. She knows what crap I've been dealing with on this front and I think she was been watching to see how it's dealt with. She'll intervene if need be. And I might need her too because I think my boss did this on purpose because I'm pregnant and didn't think to schedule it around my bosses schedule. She's actually made comments to this effect and also made comments that she's glad I'm getting a tubal so SHE won't have to go through this again. /eyeroll


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  • @mamaof5already Not enough time to get someone brand new in & start over with training.

    @chucksmom15 My HR director is awesome. She firmly believes that HRs responsibility is to back up her employees. She knows what crap I've been dealing with on this front and I think she was been watching to see how it's dealt with. She'll intervene if need be. And I might need her too because I think my boss did this on purpose because I'm pregnant and didn't think to schedule it around my bosses schedule. She's actually made comments to this effect and also made comments that she's glad I'm getting a tubal so SHE won't have to go through this again. /eyeroll

    She did not say that!!!  How horrible!!!
  • My BF is my little sister! She just turned 25 but acts like she is 16! She refuses to live at home with my parents because she doesn't want to follow any rules (which is fine) so she moved out and rents an apartment. This would be all fine and dandy if she didn't end up asking my mom constantly for money! And not just $20, $600!!! Twice in the last 3 months she has asked for $600 to help with rent and bills and my mom has given it to her! (My Mom is an enabler but feels bad not helping, but that's another story! And no we are not a family with money) She works and goes to school and received assistance for school and she has already spent everything they gave her! She goes out almost every night with her friends and parties! And then she has the nerve to text me (2700kms away) and ask to borrow $40 because she can't afford gas for the next 2 weeks to get to work! I have refused to even answer her! 
  • kbrinks2 said:
    My BF is my little sister! She just turned 25 but acts like she is 16! She refuses to live at home with my parents because she doesn't want to follow any rules (which is fine) so she moved out and rents an apartment. This would be all fine and dandy if she didn't end up asking my mom constantly for money! And not just $20, $600!!! Twice in the last 3 months she has asked for $600 to help with rent and bills and my mom has given it to her! (My Mom is an enabler but feels bad not helping, but that's another story! And no we are not a family with money) She works and goes to school and received assistance for school and she has already spent everything they gave her! She goes out almost every night with her friends and parties! And then she has the nerve to text me (2700kms away) and ask to borrow $40 because she can't afford gas for the next 2 weeks to get to work! I have refused to even answer her! 
    I would give her sympathy....BUT if she's being irresponsible and mis- handling money ( partying) then no. And I'm sorry 25 is not that young...she needs to start figuring it out somewhat and be independent.  
  • Chawk17 said:
    kbrinks2 said:
    My BF is my little sister! She just turned 25 but acts like she is 16! She refuses to live at home with my parents because she doesn't want to follow any rules (which is fine) so she moved out and rents an apartment. This would be all fine and dandy if she didn't end up asking my mom constantly for money! And not just $20, $600!!! Twice in the last 3 months she has asked for $600 to help with rent and bills and my mom has given it to her! (My Mom is an enabler but feels bad not helping, but that's another story! And no we are not a family with money) She works and goes to school and received assistance for school and she has already spent everything they gave her! She goes out almost every night with her friends and parties! And then she has the nerve to text me (2700kms away) and ask to borrow $40 because she can't afford gas for the next 2 weeks to get to work! I have refused to even answer her! 
    I would give her sympathy....BUT if she's being irresponsible and mis- handling money ( partying) then no. And I'm sorry 25 is not that young...she needs to start figuring it out somewhat and be independent.  
    ^^^^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^^^^

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  • @Chawk17 and @rainafire77 I honestly used to have sympathy towards her up until I kept getting snap chats all the time from her out drinking somewhere! The sympathy goes away really quickly!
  • @kbrinks2 I totally understand! I have a 28 year old sister with a similar attitude and an enabling mother. Due to a roommate “situation,” my sister is moving home for the first time since she was 18. I’m interested to see how that works out... 

    My BF: the grocery store already has v- day candy out. Dudes, let’s celebrate Christmas and New Years first, shall we? Also, I’m ready for this baby, but I’m totally not ready yet!
  • @babybro218 target already had an endcap of Valentine’s Day baby clothes. I may have bought a “my first Valentine’s Day” bib.  :#
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  • @kbrinks2 I totally understand! I have a 28 year old sister with a similar attitude and an enabling mother. Due to a roommate “situation,” my sister is moving home for the first time since she was 18. I’m interested to see how that works out... 

    My BF: the grocery store already has v- day candy out. Dudes, let’s celebrate Christmas and New Years first, shall we? Also, I’m ready for this baby, but I’m totally not ready yet!
    Valentines?? At least wait til December 26th!

    My BF is a stupid, petty one. We’re  keeping the baby’s name a secret from most of the family, though both sets of our parents know. I’m weird about using the baby’s name before he’s born. I just call him “little guy” or the ever original “the baby.” Just a personal preference to wait til he’s out to be 100% sure that’s his name. My in-laws are constantly saying “when Will gets here” or “hows wills room coming along?” Etc. I just want to tell them to stop it but it seems like such a stupid thing to bother with that I ignore it. My fear is that they’re getting too comfortable saying it and are going to slip around other family members that don’t know. Especially after a few cocktails on Christmas...
  • @kbrinks2 I totally understand! I have a 28 year old sister with a similar attitude and an enabling mother. Due to a roommate “situation,” my sister is moving home for the first time since she was 18. I’m interested to see how that works out... 

    My BF: the grocery store already has v- day candy out. Dudes, let’s celebrate Christmas and New Years first, shall we? Also, I’m ready for this baby, but I’m totally not ready yet!
    Valentines?? At least wait til December 26th!

    My BF is a stupid, petty one. We’re  keeping the baby’s name a secret from most of the family, though both sets of our parents know. I’m weird about using the baby’s name before he’s born. I just call him “little guy” or the ever original “the baby.” Just a personal preference to wait til he’s out to be 100% sure that’s his name. My in-laws are constantly saying “when Will gets here” or “hows wills room coming along?” Etc. I just want to tell them to stop it but it seems like such a stupid thing to bother with that I ignore it. My fear is that they’re getting too comfortable saying it and are going to slip around other family members that don’t know. Especially after a few cocktails on Christmas...
    I get your point of view as it's a secret for most of your family members- so it makes sense. . However, it drives me nuts that ILs say " the baby" when everyone else ( co workers, my family, friends..anyone besides ILs ect ) say " how's Sutton?"   I want to scream " she has a name!!" When refered to as baby!
    It's funny we have the opposite situation.
  • Chawk17 said:
    @kbrinks2 I totally understand! I have a 28 year old sister with a similar attitude and an enabling mother. Due to a roommate “situation,” my sister is moving home for the first time since she was 18. I’m interested to see how that works out... 

    My BF: the grocery store already has v- day candy out. Dudes, let’s celebrate Christmas and New Years first, shall we? Also, I’m ready for this baby, but I’m totally not ready yet!
    Valentines?? At least wait til December 26th!

    My BF is a stupid, petty one. We’re  keeping the baby’s name a secret from most of the family, though both sets of our parents know. I’m weird about using the baby’s name before he’s born. I just call him “little guy” or the ever original “the baby.” Just a personal preference to wait til he’s out to be 100% sure that’s his name. My in-laws are constantly saying “when Will gets here” or “hows wills room coming along?” Etc. I just want to tell them to stop it but it seems like such a stupid thing to bother with that I ignore it. My fear is that they’re getting too comfortable saying it and are going to slip around other family members that don’t know. Especially after a few cocktails on Christmas...
    I get your point of view as it's a secret for most of your family members- so it makes sense. . However, it drives me nuts that ILs say " the baby" when everyone else ( co workers, my family, friends..anyone besides ILs ect ) say " how's Sutton?"   I want to scream " she has a name!!" When refered to as baby!
    It's funny we have the opposite situation.
    That’s pretty funny that were the total opposite  :D I have no idea why I don’t like to use his name yet outside of the keeping it secret thing. For some reason it feels weird to call him his name until I actually see his face, even though we’re 99.999% certain that it will be his name. 
  • So annoyed with FIL right now.   He’s been going on and on about how excited he is to come see the boys and stay the night tonight.   DS1 is super excited that Papa is coming.  We got a dusting of snow and he called DH to say he’s not coming today after all because his truck can’t get around in the snow.   

    It is a 2 hour drive on all highway with the same dusting where he lives.   And it stopped snowing, and he wasn’t planning on coming till afternoon anyway. 

    He’s notorious for canceling last minute but for some reason I didn’t think he’d flake out on the boys for Christmas after getting them excited to see him.   :s
  • @hms1219 I’m so sorry he did that! How rude. It’s never fun to make promises that you can’t keep. I hope your boys were not too disappointed. 
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