Look, I have so much to be thankful for and I fully intend to spend time reflecting on it next week. But let's face it: Thanksgiving is also a busy and potentially stressful time for many of us. Feel free to complain about it here.
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We have to fly my three kids to Wisconsin next week to stay with my in laws. I have no idea where or if any of them will sleep - I am night weaning the 18 month old and he is definitely not thrilled about it. On top of that, I'm fully expecting travel delays and could quite possibly spend hours stuck at O'Hare with three kids 5 and under who have gone napless. Why can't we just stay at home and attempt to rest?
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Sorry you have to travel @Lindsye! We’re hosting 24 for Thanksgiving, so it’s just cleaning and cooking, which is easier than flying with 3 kids. I’ll pray for your sanity
ETA - Where in WI? DH has good friends we go visit a few times a year in Lake Geneva.
They are in a town called Appleton - it's about 30 minutes from Green Bay and we visit his grandparents who live there, too. Hosting 24 (while pregnant with twins, no less!) is no joke. I hope you have lots of helpful guests who plan to bring dishes, too.
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They are in a town called Appleton - it's about 30 minutes from Green Bay and we visit his grandparents who live there, too. Hosting 24 (while pregnant with twins, no less!) is no joke. I hope you have lots of helpful guests who plan to bring dishes, too.
Yep - guests are bringing dishes (thank God!), MIL is even doing the turkey and gravy (she also has offered to help clean). I love her!
We also live across the country from our families and it makes the holidays so much more stressful. I wish I could drive over for dinner/a party and then go back to my own house. Instead we’re packing, flying, being a house guest for a week (which is the most exhausting part for me), flying, unpacking, laundry. I feel like holidays would be merrier if we could see each other in manageable doses over the holidays instead of 24/7.
@rmmorris I could have written this myself! I totally agree - living on top of each other for a week is SUCH a hard way to spend quality time together. It's almost impossible to enjoy anyone's company in that's situation after a week of constant togetherness. I had a hard time with my in laws for a couple years when we were first married and I'm convinced this is why; it's just a tough way to get to know people.
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@rmmorris I could have written this myself! I totally agree - living on top of each other for a week is SUCH a hard way to spend quality time together. It's almost impossible to enjoy anyone's company in that's situation after a week of constant togetherness. I had a hard time with my in laws for a couple years when we were first married and I'm convinced this is why; it's just a tough way to get to know people.
Oh boy, don’t even get me started. My inlaws live out of Country and they are coming to stay wirh us over Christmas/New Year for 3WEEKS. I totally understand why they would come for so long because it’s such an expense for them to fly here but I’m super nervous about how this will go. When my H and I went to Europe to visit them two years ago we only stayed at their house a week. The rest of the time we traveled and visted other places. I thought they would do the same thing but it doesn’t seem like it. Thankfully it will just be my H and I for Thanksgiving this year.
@mikkimikey we are in Houston, but my husband's family lives in a Wisconsin town that requires us to connect through O'Hare. I have run through that airport pushing a stroller with a screaming child/baby in it more times than I care to remember!
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We're not doing anything for Thanksgiving aside from watching the parade. Kind of lame, but we just cant afford anything this year and all of DHs family is out in Mexico
@mikkimikey we are in Houston, but my husband's family lives in a Wisconsin town that requires us to connect through O'Hare. I have run through that airport pushing a stroller with a screaming child/baby in it more times than I care to remember!
Ugh! Good Luck! Twice now I have chosen to rent a car at ohare and just drive home vs waiting for a connection that’s ultimately cancelled! Luckily there’s a lot to do at the airport and you can get Garret’s popcorn and Eli’s cheesecake for the wait!
Dh is from gb and we lived in de pere for a while. Good news is flying out of Appleton with kiddos will be a breeze for you!
Im secretly glad dh works retail! He works all day thanksgiving, so the kids are staying home, doing a small holiday meal for dhs lunch break then watching movies the rest of the day! My family is mad I’m not bringing the kids to my grandmas but thanksgiving there is more about a quick meal while the guys hunt. Pretty boring otherwise plus a 4 hour drive round trip alone isn’t exactly how I want to spend the day while leaving dh to fend for himself on his biggest day of the year
no huge complaints hopefully but i'll be joining you in braving airline travel for the holidays. Thankfully we only have one flight and DD has flown so much with me over the years that she tends to be no fuss. I'll keep my fingers cross that this trip is no different!
@lindsye good luck, traveling with three is no joke and especially with a connection to add to it!
We got kicked out of the usual thanksgiving where my DH's parents celebrate with my family. My MIL was just getting too stressed bc both of DH's siblings are coming from Napa and Arizona with their young children (5 kiddos in total). So we bowed out and are doing a small thanksgiving at our house with just my parents and brother.
I'm a little sad, I really like large family gatherings (we all get along and there's no drama), but my husband's parents are a little introverted, so I understand their anxiety. Still, I wish we would be all together. I know, I'm a weirdo.
Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. We got married the Saturday after Thanksgiving for partly that reason. I am hosting this year. I was really looking forward to it, too.
Long story short DH and his brother have a weird relationship that is insanely competitive. My BIL constantly lectures us on things that are none of this business and things, that frankly, he honestly knows nothing about. The relationship is strained, to put it best.
<<TW>> In early October they announced that they were pregnant and due two weeks ahead of me with a baby girl. I was over the moon for them. I knew they had struggled with infertility for some time and had always wanted a second baby. He actually told DH that he was kind of bummed to know that we were expecting because they expected us to gift them all of our baby gear, so they wouldn't have to buy anything. They also pressured us into finding out what we were having so that in the event we were having a boy, they could receive all of DD's hand me downs. I have NO issues with giving hand me downs, but I don't want to be told to give them to you....Anyhow... it caused even more of a strain on our relationship. Two weeks ago, at a routine appointment, she found out she'd lost the baby at 17.5 weeks. The entire family was devastated and I feel like a complete ass for my frustrations with them. I feel so bad for them.
But they're still coming for Thanksgiving and bringing her best friend. So... it will be a difficult holiday. I don't want to do or say the wrong thing. I am also terrified that the family will get boozy and the resentment will flair up and a fight will break out.
Our Thanksgiving will consist of me, DH, and DD. It's my favorite thing, just being the 3 of us. All of our family lives in GA, and it's just too much going for Thanksgiving then turn around and go for Christmas. But the IL's have already called to complain it will just be the two if them for Thanksgiving. But they are not welcome for holidays. It's better we go to them.
2 years ago when I was 5 months pregnant with DD, they came for Thanksgiving. The weekend before Thanksgiving DH and I had a wedding out of town. They offered to come early and watch the dogs. We agreed because they had done this for us many times before and it was just overnight. Well, when we returned they were clearly upset about something. We had no idea, after gently complaining about many things, DH went for a walk with his mom. When he came back she was crying and went straight to bed. Apparently, while we were gone they moved the couch and there were dog toys under there and I left a bowl and a cup in the sink (these were literally her words). How could I leave such a mess for them to clean. I was called many names including "lazy b****" and what kind of mother was I going to be. Needless to say they stayed the rest of the trip in a hotel, after my husband asked them to leave. So they don't come for holidays anymore.
My husband has an uncle who owns a condo in a nearby resort town, and as a wedding gift, he said we could use it for a weekend. It's a gorgeous condo righr on a lake and I was very grateful, so we accepted. We had a lovely weekend, then spent literally 5 hours cleaning it so it was spotless. I even went so far as to fold the blanket on their couch exactly as it was when we arrived. We left a nice thank you card, and wine.
Fast forward a year, and we were in a tight spot in the same town, with a hotel reservation that fell through. It was late at night and we had an infant with us, so my DH asked that uncle if we could just stay overnight before we drove home. Cue a long uncomfortable conversation, in which the uncle says his wife was furious with us for the condition we left their condo in. Apparently her sister went into it after we left and took a bunch of pictures of the "disaster" we left behind. I was so floored and embarrassed and angry that I swore we would never stay there again, even though the they eventually found out his aunt's sister is a crazy evil bitch, and probably trashed the place herself and blamed it on us.
Needless to say, I want nothing to do with that crazy shit.
@bchalm Ok for starters... why were they moving your couch? lmao. But on a serious note, I'm so happy your husband asked them to leave! That is some serious craziness... good for you and your H putting your foot down and setting boundaries.
So this doesn't involve me but it involves my sister and family drama... my step mom is crazy and always stirs up some type of issue. Well apparently my sisters reached out to my Dad and asked what his plans were for Thanksgiving because they are planning to spend Christmas with their boyfriend's families. They never asked my Dad or my step mom to cook or host Thanksgiving Dinner it was more of a "we would like to come by and see you" type of thing. Well last night I see my step mom post this on Facebook:
@bchalm have them come to my house. My daughters art crap is EVERYWHERE. And since my son learned how to make slime... yeah. Just have them come over LOL
@BarefootContessa that’s awful!!! Yeah booze never solves problems, so if that’s added into the equation, then there could be major blowups!! I hope everything stays calm for you!!
We usually alternate spending Thanksgiving with my family or DH's. My in-laws decided to spend Thanksgiving by themselves in a cabin in Gettysburg and my family won't be having dinner until Friday afternoon, so we decided to stay home this year and invite our neighbors over. Cue a long, dramatic text message from my narcissistic sister about how cruel we are to not even consider inviting her and her fiance for dinner, never mind the fact that she is a nurse and will be working all day on Thanksgiving. I guess she is mad that we didn't invite them, even though we knew they wouldn't be able to make it? I have no clue.
This is the same sister who reacted to our pregnancy announcement with, "Oh.... cool." and accused my husband of mistreating my DD once the new baby arrives. Honestly, she can GTFO with that bullshit.
Alright, I already whined once, but I'm going to do it again because I am feeling super sorry for myself about next week.
My DHs new job schedule is sucky, so it hashes out that I have to take care of our toddler by myself almost every day of the week except Sunday. Daycare makes this doable, but next week they are closed on Thurs (fine) and Friday (eff!). So I took PTO off, and resigned myself to it. Next my parents announce that they are visiting extended family for Thanksgiving, so my usual go-to adult time pressure valve for tough schedules is goneso. THEN because my in-laws have zero self control and have smeared their house in cancer for the past 40 years, I end up having to host Thanksgiving. Super double eff. Because my husband is doing contract work from home, and is sucky at being clean anyway, now I have to take PTO off the day before Thanksgiving to get a head start on cooking, clean the house, and get things ready.
I am really resentful of burning so much PTO, since every day I waste now is probably another day in Dec I will sit miserable at my work desk with the inevitable winter cold. And all that work and suffering for people who will resent even having to come to my house in the first place, because I am a miserable ungrateful witch who irrationally doesn't want to enter their cancer-soaked home with a toddler while pregnant.
@ngolimento Do your in-laws not have other family they can spend the holiday with? Or do you think they could bring some of the food so it takes some of the burden off of you? Sorry to hear you are being put in this position but I am glad to hear your husband is working! I didn't realize he found some work.
@ngolimento Oh my gosh, that is ROUGH. I feel like taking PTO for anything other than relaxation already sucks level 1. Taking PTO to clean sucks level 2. Taking PTO to clean up and prepare for people who will be resentful anyway is advanced level suckage. Is there any way a friend can come over on Wednesday to give you some adult company and allow you to vent while maybe helping? I'm so sorry.
@BarefootContessa that sounds like such a sad situation and quite possibly a recipe for disaster - that loss must still feel so fresh for them. I really hope everyone makes it through the day without having a breakdown and/or lashing out at others.
@bchalm welp, at least they're obviously crazy. If that's a "mess" they'd need a full book of notebook paper and several days to document all their grievances with my house. I can't imagine being related to that kind of crazy.
@JJMNO1616 oh fun, what a freaking narcissist! Family want to drop by and visit and she finds a way to make it an offense against her. That takes skills.
@ngolimento that really freaking sucks. I know this is not a stellar parenting recommendation, but could you at least put on a movie or two for your daughter while you clean? It might feel like a special treat for her and I don't know about you, but I can get house stuff done SO much faster without my kids under foot "helping", especially when you want to just get through it so you can actually enjoy time with your family. Obligatory hosting sounds super stressful - I'm sorry you're having to deal with that.
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@lindsye Oh, I have stories for DAYS. This last little stunt is actually super tame. She told me at my wedding rehearsal dinner that she has cancer and then I later found out it wasn't even true. She is a piece of work.
@ngolimento Do your in-laws not have other family they can spend the holiday with? Or do you think they could bring some of the food so it takes some of the burden off of you? Sorry to hear you are being put in this position but I am glad to hear your husband is working! I didn't realize he found some work.
My FIL is an abusive jerk, and a waste of carbon. He drove his entire family away, then my MIL's family. They haven't even spoken to her side of the family in decades (I guess the family couldn't watch a jobless POS loser ruin her life anymore). So my DH and I are as "entended" as it gets for them.
I hate to say such terrible things, but he is a better person now that he is too busy being in pain from a terminal illness to really have his wits about him. The only reason I even let him have any contact with my kid at all is because he is in too much pain to lash out at everyone like he normally does (first time I met him, he prayed at dinner for my SIL to not be so fat and ugly so she could get a man. In front of her).
Wow, this is some crazy in-law shit. Mine tend to come twice a year for 2-3 weeks at a time, so it's a lot, but nothing as crazy as these stories.
We aren't going anywhere for Thanksgiving, since we are traveling back east for Christmas. I'll be grateful for some time to relax with my little fam but to be honest I'm sad to miss Thanksgiving at home. My family is the best and I can't wait to see them.
My Thanksgiving problems are so lame compared to some of these! But...I sent a group message out to sister and SIL asking them what they wanted to bring for Thanksgiving this year. A few days later, SIL replies with "what do I need to bring?" umm..hello?? I just asked what you wanted to bring!! So annoying because now anyway I reply is going to sound like I'm being rude.
Good grief! I came here to b*tch about my family issues but after reading all your posts I feel like I should count my blessings! We just have to travel across town about 20 min to go to my grandmothers house. Most of my family gets along except for my shitty homophobic bully of an uncle. He’s the kind of guy who thinks he’s “teasing” but always crosses the line. Ever since he found out I’m pregnant he tells me he’s going to teach my son how to spit and cuss and fight, and his nickname for him is “Optimus prime chuck Norris” like, wtf dude? It’s just stupid and I usually let it roll off my back but these days my bs tolerance level is much lower. Also, my cousin (his son) came out 2 years ago and my uncle basically disowned him. My cousin is a brilliant, funny, kind guy who deserves better. They’ll both be there, which puts my grandmother on edge the whole time bc my uncle has been known to blow up and storm out of the house before we even cut the pie. Ahhh—aren’t the holidays great?! Sending up prayers and positive vibes for all of you having to navigate crazy travel logistics and insane family drama without copious amounts of alcohol to get you through!
Feeling for all of you traveling and dealing with toxic family members. We did that for years but last year decided we weren’t visiting family for holidays anymore and it’s been such a good thing for us. We stay home and really get to enjoy our own little family. We fly DH’s Mom down usually for an overnight sometime in-between Thanksgiving and Xmas as one night is already a lot with her. And with my mom we only invite her over if she’s not being crazy for lack of a better word. She gets super depressed, anxious and toxic around the holidays every year and I decided I wasn’t going to let that ruin my kid’s Xmas memories because her anxiety and hurtful comments really get under my skin. It’s been a good thing for us although I do sometimes miss the big family holidays I grew up with. On Xmas eve we have friends who stop by throughout the day which is a fun tradition we’ve had for a while now and then we usually fly out Xmas day or the day after for a trip to Europe since flights tend to be cheaper. We’re not sure if we’re doing that this year yet though.
Thanksgiving is bringing me mixed feelings this year though... TW
Last Thanksgiving I started bleeding and at 2am I ended up having to take an ambulance to the hospital because I was in excruciating pain. I had a miscarriage that they’re not sure or not was ectopic since it was so painful. My second miscarriage and the 1st one wasn’t physically painful like that one. To top it off my son had a 104 fever during all this and it was to this day the only night I had ever spent apart from him. My dad, brother and stepmom didn’t come to the hospital even though I told them I needed them and I haven’t spoken to my stepmom or brother since... it’s overly complicated with a lot of other stuff that went down.
So that was rambling but essentially I’m sad about the 1 year anniversary of all that and so grateful about this new little one growing inside me and also feeling a little irrationally scared about history repeating itself. Bahhhh can we just skip over to xmas?
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ETA - Where in WI? DH has good friends we go visit a few times a year in Lake Geneva.
Dh is from gb and we lived in de pere for a while. Good news is flying out of Appleton with kiddos will be a breeze for you!
Im secretly glad dh works retail! He works all day thanksgiving, so the kids are staying home, doing a small holiday meal for dhs lunch break then watching movies the rest of the day! My family is mad I’m not bringing the kids to my grandmas but thanksgiving there is more about a quick meal while the guys hunt. Pretty boring otherwise plus a 4 hour drive round trip alone isn’t exactly how I want to spend the day while leaving dh to fend for himself on his biggest day of the year
@lindsye good luck, traveling with three is no joke and especially with a connection to add to it!
I'm a little sad, I really like large family gatherings (we all get along and there's no drama), but my husband's parents are a little introverted, so I understand their anxiety. Still, I wish we would be all together. I know, I'm a weirdo.
Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. We got married the Saturday after Thanksgiving for partly that reason.
I am hosting this year. I was really looking forward to it, too.
Long story short DH and his brother have a weird relationship that is insanely competitive. My BIL constantly lectures us on things that are none of this business and things, that frankly, he honestly knows nothing about. The relationship is strained, to put it best.
<<TW>> In early October they announced that they were pregnant and due two weeks ahead of me with a baby girl. I was over the moon for them. I knew they had struggled with infertility for some time and had always wanted a second baby. He actually told DH that he was kind of bummed to know that we were expecting because they expected us to gift them all of our baby gear, so they wouldn't have to buy anything. They also pressured us into finding out what we were having so that in the event we were having a boy, they could receive all of DD's hand me downs. I have NO issues with giving hand me downs, but I don't want to be told to give them to you....Anyhow... it caused even more of a strain on our relationship. Two weeks ago, at a routine appointment, she found out she'd lost the baby at 17.5 weeks. The entire family was devastated and I feel like a complete ass for my frustrations with them. I feel so bad for them.
But they're still coming for Thanksgiving and bringing her best friend. So... it will be a difficult holiday. I don't want to do or say the wrong thing. I am also terrified that the family will get boozy and the resentment will flair up and a fight will break out.
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2 years ago when I was 5 months pregnant with DD, they came for Thanksgiving. The weekend before Thanksgiving DH and I had a wedding out of town. They offered to come early and watch the dogs. We agreed because they had done this for us many times before and it was just overnight. Well, when we returned they were clearly upset about something. We had no idea, after gently complaining about many things, DH went for a walk with his mom. When he came back she was crying and went straight to bed. Apparently, while we were gone they moved the couch and there were dog toys under there and I left a bowl and a cup in the sink (these were literally her words). How could I leave such a mess for them to clean. I was called many names including "lazy b****" and what kind of mother was I going to be. Needless to say they stayed the rest of the trip in a hotel, after my husband asked them to leave. So they don't come for holidays anymore.
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My husband has an uncle who owns a condo in a nearby resort town, and as a wedding gift, he said we could use it for a weekend. It's a gorgeous condo righr on a lake and I was very grateful, so we accepted. We had a lovely weekend, then spent literally 5 hours cleaning it so it was spotless. I even went so far as to fold the blanket on their couch exactly as it was when we arrived. We left a nice thank you card, and wine.
Fast forward a year, and we were in a tight spot in the same town, with a hotel reservation that fell through. It was late at night and we had an infant with us, so my DH asked that uncle if we could just stay overnight before we drove home. Cue a long uncomfortable conversation, in which the uncle says his wife was furious with us for the condition we left their condo in. Apparently her sister went into it after we left and took a bunch of pictures of the "disaster" we left behind. I was so floored and embarrassed and angry that I swore we would never stay there again, even though the they eventually found out his aunt's sister is a crazy evil bitch, and probably trashed the place herself and blamed it on us.
Needless to say, I want nothing to do with that crazy shit.
So this doesn't involve me but it involves my sister and family drama... my step mom is crazy and always stirs up some type of issue. Well apparently my sisters reached out to my Dad and asked what his plans were for Thanksgiving because they are planning to spend Christmas with their boyfriend's families. They never asked my Dad or my step mom to cook or host Thanksgiving Dinner it was more of a "we would like to come by and see you" type of thing. Well last night I see my step mom post this on Facebook:
And she wonders why no one reaches out to her.
@BarefootContessa that’s awful!!! Yeah booze never solves problems, so if that’s added into the equation, then there could be major blowups!! I hope everything stays calm for you!!
@JJMNO1616 I'm sorry but I literally lol'd at that meme. She sounds super crazy. And right, who moves someone's couch?
This is the same sister who reacted to our pregnancy announcement with, "Oh.... cool." and accused my husband of mistreating my DD once the new baby arrives. Honestly, she can GTFO with that bullshit.
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My DHs new job schedule is sucky, so it hashes out that I have to take care of our toddler by myself almost every day of the week except Sunday. Daycare makes this doable, but next week they are closed on Thurs (fine) and Friday (eff!). So I took PTO off, and resigned myself to it. Next my parents announce that they are visiting extended family for Thanksgiving, so my usual go-to adult time pressure valve for tough schedules is goneso. THEN because my in-laws have zero self control and have smeared their house in cancer for the past 40 years, I end up having to host Thanksgiving. Super double eff. Because my husband is doing contract work from home, and is sucky at being clean anyway, now I have to take PTO off the day before Thanksgiving to get a head start on cooking, clean the house, and get things ready.
I am really resentful of burning so much PTO, since every day I waste now is probably another day in Dec I will sit miserable at my work desk with the inevitable winter cold. And all that work and suffering for people who will resent even having to come to my house in the first place, because I am a miserable ungrateful witch who irrationally doesn't want to enter their cancer-soaked home with a toddler while pregnant.
**end whining*
@bchalm welp, at least they're obviously crazy. If that's a "mess" they'd need a full book of notebook paper and several days to document all their grievances with my house. I can't imagine being related to that kind of crazy.
@JJMNO1616 oh fun, what a freaking narcissist! Family want to drop by and visit and she finds a way to make it an offense against her. That takes skills.
@ngolimento that really freaking sucks. I know this is not a stellar parenting recommendation, but could you at least put on a movie or two for your daughter while you clean? It might feel like a special treat for her and I don't know about you, but I can get house stuff done SO much faster without my kids under foot "helping", especially when you want to just get through it so you can actually enjoy time with your family. Obligatory hosting sounds super stressful - I'm sorry you're having to deal with that.
I hate to say such terrible things, but he is a better person now that he is too busy being in pain from a terminal illness to really have his wits about him. The only reason I even let him have any contact with my kid at all is because he is in too much pain to lash out at everyone like he normally does (first time I met him, he prayed at dinner for my SIL to not be so fat and ugly so she could get a man. In front of her).
We aren't going anywhere for Thanksgiving, since we are traveling back east for Christmas. I'll be grateful for some time to relax with my little fam but to be honest I'm sad to miss Thanksgiving at home. My family is the best and I can't wait to see them.
My Thanksgiving problems are so lame compared to some of these! But...I sent a group message out to sister and SIL asking them what they wanted to bring for Thanksgiving this year. A few days later, SIL replies with "what do I need to bring?" umm..hello?? I just asked what you wanted to bring!! So annoying because now anyway I reply is going to sound like I'm being rude.
Thanksgiving is bringing me mixed feelings this year though... TW
Last Thanksgiving I started bleeding and at 2am I ended up having to take an ambulance to the hospital because I was in excruciating pain. I had a miscarriage that they’re not sure or not was ectopic since it was so painful. My second miscarriage and the 1st one wasn’t physically painful like that one. To top it off my son had a 104 fever during all this and it was to this day the only night I had ever spent apart from him. My dad, brother and stepmom didn’t come to the hospital even though I told them I needed them and I haven’t spoken to my stepmom or brother since... it’s overly complicated with a lot of other stuff that went down.
So that was rambling but essentially I’m sad about the 1 year anniversary of all that and so grateful about this new little one growing inside me and also feeling a little irrationally scared about history repeating itself. Bahhhh can we just skip over to xmas?