@beachbunnyxo123 I go back CD 20 (so in 10 days) for a progesterone blood test, and she said US too, but I'm not sure if the US is that appointment or a later one.
Me: 28 & DH: 29 Married May 31, 2014 TTC 1 year Currently testing
@rvamom315 Thanks you for the kind words. We ordered a DNA test off amazon that had good reviews and included lab fees. On amazon it said 3-5 business days but once we got it, it said it takes 7-10 business days for them to get the test once you mail it, and 1-2 days to process after that I've been checking my email like a maniac because I guess they email you once they recieve it. I wish we mailed it back over night or at least priority mail at this point. This is technically only our 5th business day. I was hoping to have results by now when we ordered it grrrr.
@ndz2008 That's promising! I'll be thinking of you and hoping he's still good to go! There's no reason he shouldn't be.
@juneroseruby That's gives me hope. I don't think my DH would be against a TESE until he found out how much it costs lol. I would be very open to fost-adopt (I have a friend IRL who is in the process right now) but IVF or IUI would be my preference. It will be interesting to see what he'll be willing to do. I'm pretty much willing to do anything!
@alohakumu I don't know if it's just because we have Kaiser or what but when they talk to me, they talk like IVF ICIS is the only option (or IUI with a donor). She said they'd have to be able to get millions and millions of good sperm to do IUI with his. I think the odds are stacked against us given that he has zero, but you never know! I'm hoping it's a blockage that can be corrected by micro surgery. At this point that would be the best case scenario for us. I'm not getting my hopes up of course but I can wish and hope that, that's the case. It gives me hope that your DH came around wto the idea of a donor. Thank you for sharing. I needed to hear that.
@twodreamscollide that’s pretty late for monitoring ovulation. If you’re on medication and this is your first medicated cycle they really should have you come in around cd 10 or 12 for monitoring to make sure you don’t over respond to the clomid and to measure your follicles. Cd 20 is usually for progesterone BW to make sure you ovulated. IMO an US on cd 20 would be pretty useless if you already ovulated then there’s nothing to see. Are you seeing an RE or OB?
Eeek, I am so behind! My replacement started at work this week so I have been busy between starting my new position and getting him up to speed, making getting on here really difficult. How dare work get in the way!
@purplg8r Oh no! I'm sorry to hear about the possible skin cancer, but I am glad it at least seems like it can be treated easily. I hope you are able to get your results back soon.
@KristoKekerooni I am so happy to hear that this Dr. is a better fit and is getting things moving! Your story about your previous Dr was absolutely infuriating.
@beachbunnyxo123 I hope all goes well on Monday, and I am happy that you feel more comfortable advocating for yourself. I really hope you guys are able to work out a plan! As for your question, we do not have an exact timeline for when we would be starting just yet, and it would all depend on how quickly we can get things moving. Right now, however, it looks like we would likely be getting started in early December.
@twodreamscollide +1 to CD20 being way too late for a monitoring ultrasound. Like @beachbunnyxo123 said you really should be going back on either CD 10 or 12 for bw and us to see how you are progressing. As someone who did over respond on their first clomid cycle, I really suggest you talk to your Dr about going in sooner for monitoring.
@beachbunnyxo123 they didn't say why on they voicemail they left me. I'll be starting progesterone tonight after we BD (I guess I better get on that because I really don't want to insert it right after. ). I really hope you get clearance soon! It's got to be frustrating thinking you could be missing out!
Ladies who have done medicated IUI cycles, when do you typically go in for a monitoring u/s? My RE wants me to come in for monitoring on cd 12, but I usually O on cd 12 or 13. The nurse seemed to think that the letrozole would totally change my O date and their typical monitoring schedule would work fine, but I have doubts. What have your experiences been?
@darkstar42 I don't O on letrozole, but my first cycle they had me go in on CD 10 I think since we didn't know how I would react. Just from my own experience at my clinic, CD 12 sounds a little late but I feel like I've heard other girls on here say that's when they go in for their first monitoring. Sorry I feel like this post may have ended up being no help at all.
@darkstar42 I'm also on medicated IUI cycles. I'm taking clomid, however, and it did change my O date. I was Oing CD12 and now I'm usually CD14-16. Either way, CD12 monitoring does sound late - even with my later historical O dates on the clomid my RE has me come in on CD10 for an ultrasound to see how things are progressing. But if the letrozole makes you O late I guess it won't matter. Ok, so I'm obviously no help! FX your clinic is right about timing and you worried for nothing!
@darkstar42 on Clomid I ovulated CD 14-15 but on Letrozole I ovulated on CD 12. They brought me in on CD 11 this past cycle and I had gotten a positive OPK that morning and had a huge follicle that was ready to go.
TTC History
Me: 35 DH: 34 Married 07/2012 DD born 07/2014 DD2 born 10/2018 DS born 10/2022
IF history: TTC #2 since January 2016 June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018 FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@darkstar42 when I was planning my first IUI I was on clomid and we missed O because I wasn’t being monitored soon enough. I rarely turned OPKs and had an irregular cycle. If it concerns you definitely request an earlier monitoring date. GL!
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@beachbunnyxo123, they said it was a combination between my cervix being uncooperative and closed, and the type of catheter they were using not being ideal in my case. My RE said she'll be using a different brand of catheter for the transfer, so hopefully this doesn't happen twice. I didn't see the dialator (the drawer was by my feet and my "sheet" was blocking my view) but it was definitely not a suppository. It was a physical dialator. I'm glad they have a plan for you, though I completely understand your concerns and desire to have a second Dr available.
@darkstar42 I definitely recommend getting in before that. I went in for monitoring on CD 9 and my follie was just about ready (19mm). They told me that clomid speeds things along bc I was shocked that things were that far along already. If you're worried you'll miss it I'd definitely ask to come in earlier. I had my IUI on CD12 this month and previous months without meds it was more like day 15 I hate to hear that a full cycle was a bust just bc of bad timing like that!
@darkstar42 They had me come in on CD12 my first cycle (which ended up being a bust), and then switched me to CD10 after that. The Letrozole did change when I would O, but it has been kind of varied since then (I want to say I went from CD14, to 12, and then 13 this time). If you are afraid that CD12 may be too late mention it to you your Dr. I didn't say anything that first cycle but now I wish I had.
@madspunk@cassafrass15 Thank you! Just hearing about other
people’s experiences with this is really helpful!
@shortstack930 That’s good to know! I think I’m definitely
going to be moving my appointment to cd 10 or 11.
@laurad75 Yikes! That’s what I’m afraid of happening. The
nurse looked at me like I was crazy for asking, but it sounds like that is a
real risk.
@50wife When do you normally O? I’m thinking I should go in
cd 10 or 11, but I’m paranoid I’m going to miss O! Were you on clomid or
letrozole?
@Pinky917 Am I remembering correctly that your first cycle
was a bust not because you missed O, but because you over-stimmed? I’m
definitely going to reschedule my appointment.
@darkstar42 I'm not much help but. I normally Od late (earliest ever was cd21). This was first cycle on Letrozole. I went in for my ultrasound on cd11 and I was good to trigger that night. (I'm still temping and FF I showing I O'd on cd 11 but I think the temps were skewed by the trigger & I O'd either late on cd 12 or morning of cd 13 like I should have after the injection)
@darkstar42 You are correct, I had over responded. However, keep in mind that was on clomid, not Letrozole. The risk of over responding is lower with Letrozole.
Cycle/CD: Cycle 6 (It takes a VERY long time for my cycles to start, I normally have to induce them with provera)/ CD 6
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) We've done blood work for pcos and other conditions, the doctor said everything came back okay. I have an HSG scheduled Monday (I am terrified of the pain) and we are doing a semen analysis later on this month.
How are things going? I am trying to remain hopeful looking at everyone else's journey.
Any questions? I've never asked my OB, but what happens after the HSG and semen analysis if everything is okay?
GTKY: Did/are you doing anything to celebrate Halloween this year? I went with my friends bring their kids trick or treating, I can't wait to do the same one year.
@darkstar42 - I haven't done IUIs yet but am on my 2nd cycle of letrozole (ok actually 4th but I didn't ovulate on the first 2 doses so they don't count). I ovulated CD 19 last cycle. This cycle was my first monitored cycle with a trigger. Because I O'd so late on the previous cycle and was out of town CD 11-13, they were comfortable letting me come in for my monitoring US on CD14. But that US on CD 14 showed I already had 2 mature follicles and was ready to trigger by that evening. So if you already ovulate CD12-13, I think an earlier monitoring US is better.
@gimmiethebump welcome to the IF thread- the thread where everyone is great but no one wants to be here! Don't be scared of the HSG- for most people its only mild cramping (my period cramps are worse). There are some people that have pain, but the majority don't have too much disconfort, or if they do, its really temporary (like just a few minutes or less). Is your OB doing these tests or an RE? If you are doing all this with an OB, it is strongly recommended to stop and do these things with an RE. An RE (reproductive endocrinologist) has had additional specialized training and they are much better at managing infertility patients with better results and in a safer way (the number of people I have seen that take clomid from their OBs like candy scares me and can really affect your long term fertility if you are not being appropriately managed).
As for what happens if all your tests are normal? Well, if you don't really cycle on your own without meds that is not normal- which again, is why having an RE as opposed to an OB can help diagnose. I would say you probably won't fall into the 'unexplained' category since unexplained typically have normal cycles and normal symptoms and normal tests but just don't get pregnant, but since your cycles are irregular, you may fall into a 'dysfuntion' category (ovulatory dysfunction, luteal dysfunction etc..) or some form of PCOS maybe? But again, an RE can help you understand what is wrong and how to best manage it.
IUI mama’s.. if as far as the RE can tell, you are fertile with regular cycles, ovulate like clockwork, and have no known female complications, can you do IUI with out taking any medications or do they always recommend meds to up the chances of success?
@margorita30 there aren't a lot of studies that show just IUI with zero meds, but from what I have read, there is only a minute increase of success with just IUI, so meds are always strongly recommended/required. At least thats what I found from some studies.
@darkstar42 I normally O closer to day 16 or so. I was only on clomid and my body was obviously ready to rock and roll much sooner!!
@margorita30 my first 2 IUIs were no meds bc there were no issues on my end and they didn't see a need for adding anything to the mix. Only the trigger shot to make sure our timing was perfect. The past 2 they put me on clomid bc when you're under the microscope with all of the bloodwork, they can see your levels fluctuating so my doctor put me on clomid to make sure things on my side were looking as good as possible!
@margorita30 I have no known fertility issues and did IUI with donor and they still medicated me. Clomid. I over stimmed my first cycle and they cut the dose and got a few this cycle. They are concerned because my body has never been exposed to typical sperm, so they don’t really know how fertile I am. But I am hoping to get a BOGO out of the deal anyways.
AFM-IUI happened today! It went well. I woke up to sharp ovulation pains about three hours before my appt and was actively releasing during my scan and IUI so that was awesome. Doc said I couldn’t of had more perfect timing! So that’s exciting. They just have me take a pregnancy test at home in two weeks and call them if it’s positive, otherwise wait for AF and call with CD 1 for the next cycle. Let the BSC set in. Question-I have been super crampy all day, is that typical?
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@JuneRoseRuby cramps after IUI is normal, at least for me! My first one, I feel like the chick who did it was kind of a newb and poked around a bit so I was very crampy all day. They suggested sex that night and the thought of something in me with those cramps? Nah... The others were done by someone different and went much smoother. Still a bit of cramping but it was gone by the end of the day.
Fingers crossed for you!! I'm glad you had the most perfect timing ever!!
@margorita30 Seconding @kiwi2628. The medical literature I've read has found better results for women with unexplained infertility in terms of pregnancy and live birth rates for medicated IUI with trigger compared to natural IUI or even medicated IUI without trigger. @JuneRoseRuby That's so awesome that you had such great timing! Fx so hard for you.
AFM, you've all convinced me to change my monitoring date. I think I'm going to schedule it for cd 10, since I really have no idea how I'll respond to the meds. Just took my first dose of letrozole tonight, so we'll see how that goes!
@kiwi2628 thanks so much! I am currently testing with my OB and have to go see the RE for my HSG and SA. I was thinking about switching to the RE because my OB told me the RE would be more agressive with achieving the pregnancy. I really appreciate you answering my question and giving me advice!!
@purplg8r oh no! Sorry to hear the shot didn’t go as planned. Here’s hoping this is the only cycle you’ll need it.
@beachbunnyxo123 so glad to hear the cardiologist appointment went well. I’ll be thinking of you Monday. I’m still waiting on the results of the blood work. (And it’s killing me!) I’m trying to be patient. I’m going to do my best to give it a week. And then I’m calling. If things look okay I will start Clomid next cycle
@Avrilmai thankfully the shot wasn't terrible, just not as painless as I thought. But on the other hand it was less nerve-wracking than I thought. I'd do it again if needed!
@JuneRoseRuby wow!! How cool on the timing. Were you able to actually tell on the screen or just the dr?
@gimmiethebump I’m currently CD 36 , took 2 test last week that were both BFN and called the RE nurse last week to see if we can get my cycle moving along. She told me to wait it out. I’m getting frustrated here as I would like to get these test going to see if what or if there is something going on. I may call her again if I don’t get it by Wed and see if we can’t induce it. Have you ever found anything natural to induce it?
I did an intro and made several posts back in early spring. Haven’t been active since (dailies were a bit
much for me), but have been lurking. I’ve
been want to jump in this thread, but wasn’t sure when I should really “go here”. Do I need to re-intro on the intro
thread? Summary, me 28 (this Friday) and
husband 35. Married 2 years. Two dogs.
@gimmiethebump Okay,
don’t be worried about the HSG. It was
not bad at all (at least in my case). I
had SHG on Friday and then like 30 minutes later went in for the HSG. I didn’t take any OTC pain relievers before I
had either one and only felt a tiny little pressure/sting maybe for like two
seconds maybe when the dye went in and it wasn’t even bad. I know some people really do have problems
with it, but it doesn’t appear like that is the majority and being able to
relax and not tense up helps a lot (easier said than done. I know, I know). Also, as far as obgyn vs RE for testing- let
me tell you about my experience. I was
originally going to go straight to RE, but my regular gyn said she could do all
these preliminary tests (bloodwork, ultrasound, SA) to have it all done before
going to the RE and it would save having to drive several hours each way and
money since she said sometime insurance doesn’t always cover stuff at RE. Well, when I finally went to the RE I had to
redo EVERYTHING since they said the testing they did was either out of date
methods or not enough information collected and not useful. Maybe it is just because I live in BFE and
health care isn’t that great and somewhat behind the times, but I wish I would
have not wasted several months and went directly to the RE. Also, it could be just because I have good
insurance, but it wasn’t any more expensive at the RE, my ultrasound was
actually cheaper. I would just hate for
someone else to waste time, money, and energy for nothing, so I would say it is
worth checking in to.
Diagnosis (If you’ve
been): Possible MFI. First SA showed low count and low morphology,
but it sounds like it was an outdated method so doctor ordered a redo. We should get results soon. So far everything with myself has checked out
ok, so we will see…
Cycle/CD: 14ish/9
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
WTO
What are you doing
this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):
Testing. Met with RE on Tuesday
and had day 3 bloodwork and ultrasound.
Had SHG and HSG and husband repeat SA on Friday.
How are things going? Eh. Kinda mentally giving up on the whole
natural route until we find out more results from RE.
Any questions? I’m sure I will after we get all the
results back from the most recent testing.
I was really hoping we could go over all of it on the phone, but it
sounds like I may have to go in for a follow up. Ughh. When we were there he pretty much just went
through our 3 options – nothing, IUI, IVF, and said he was okay going whatever
route we wanted. Originally I didn’t
want to bother with IUI since we really didn’t want to do any medicated IUI
cycles and figured the stats weren’t too promising with unmedicated IUI, but he
was saying insurance would probably require 3 medicated IUI before they would
cover IVF (we are very fortunate/lucky to have infertility coverage). So basically we just have to decide if we
want to start with the medicated IUI, unmedicated IUI and if that doesn’t work
go to OOP IVF if insurance won’t cover since it was unmedicated, or direct to
OOP IVF. Of course we will wait until we
get the rest of the results from testing to really decide what route to go. I guess that wasn’t really a question.
GTKY: Did/are you
doing anything to celebrate Halloween this year? We had to take a vacation day for our first
appointment in Memphis on the 31st so we did all that fun stuff and
then went to a late lunch and shopping.
@becca07024411 Is there a particular reason you don't want to do
medicated IUI cycles? As I understand it, they can improve chances,
especially for mild MFI. It's a little unclear in your post, but does
your insurance cover both IUI and IVF, or just IUI? Mine just covers
IUI, so that's what we're trying. Fx the SA re-do shows better results!
Speaking
of medicated IUIs, I'm so exhausted from the letrozole! It raised my
temps last night, which made it hard to sleep, and I'm just exhausted
today. Do other folks typically get side effects like this? I'm on a 5mg
dose.
@darkstar42 Well, at first we didn’t want to do anything to increase the chance of multiples, even if it was just a little. And yes, our insurance does cover IUI and IVF, although the doctor said it would most likely be a situation where they would probably require 3 medicated IUIs first before covering IVF. He did mention he though there was a chance we may have a leg to stand on about justifying not doing medicated cycles since I am ovulating normally on my own, but that would need to be verified. I live in Tennessee, but our insurance is through BCBSIL (thankfully) since that is where our company is located, so it is a little tricky figuring out how the coverage works exactly. He explained the insurance companies do not have all these rules/requirement written down and explained in writing, but something like a board reviews and decides what to pay and what not to pay- or at least that is how I understood it. I wish I had a better understanding of it all!!
@becca07024411 I would call your insurance to find out their infertility benefits to decide what to do next. I also have insurance, and they require 6 medicated cycles before they will approve IVF, which means doing an unmedicated IUI cycle for me wouldn't count for anything, but a medicated cycle with no IUI counts, so before moving forward, I would check with your insurance so you don't waste any time. I would hope medicated and/or IUI works for you, but if it doesn't and you do need to move on to IVF (like me) you will be mad if you wasted more cycles and money on cycles that don't count.
@ndz2018 I, unfortunately, am never able to start my cycles naturally but I have heard there are several other methods that help other women induce a cycle such as BD'ing, excessive and herbal remedies. Everyone is different though. Last cycle I went to CD 65 before provera was prescribed for me from my OB and I didn't start a new cycle until after CD 82 . What testing are you doing?
@becca07024411 Oh my! That would be so dreadful restarting everything all over again. I wanted to do everything with the OB for the same reasons you've done (insurance wise), because once insurance hears the word infertility you are on your own. I have to go to the RE's office tomorrow for the HSG so when I get there I will review the process from switching over from my OB to them. Also, thank you for the HSG advise. I have been youtubing and stalking message boards about the procedure and freaking myself out lol.
@gimmiethebump We had our first RE appointment on 10/27 and I was supposed to start AF around 2-3 days after that, well I’m still waiting. Doing the CD3 tests and then after that my HSG and saline sono but it’s all waiting on AF. I tried drinking parsley tea, warm lemon water and sex lol still nothin! I’m super frustrated right now. When I spoke to the nurse on Friday she told me I need to wait it out. I’m about 8 days late. Of course the one time I wanted AF to come on time she’s ridiculously late!
@ndz2018 how do you know you O'd? Its most likely you either O'd late or haven't O'd yet. Most REs/OBs won't induce a period until you are 60-90 days without one.
@kiwi2628 I’m thinking I O’d around the 16/17th I did get a positive (solid Smiley faces for two days) on the Clear Blue Easy OPK test on Oct 15th and after that on CD 18 I got I plain circle with nothing in it.
@ndz2018 most likely you O'd late then or haven't O'd at all. You can gear up to O (thus get a positive OPK) but not actually O. The only way to confirm O is with bloodwork post-O or accurate temping. If you wanna know, I am sure you could ask your doctor to run bloodwork to confirm O, and then you are just waiting for another week or so, but most likely they will just tell you to wait until CD60
@kiwi2628 Gotcha! They did do some blood work on 10/27 when I spoke to her this past fri she only told me that everything looked pretty good that I was a tad deficient in Vit D and my AMH level was 4.17 and asked if I had PCOS .. which to my knowledge I do not. They also did a US that day(10/27) and she said my lining was nice and thick like right before AF. I will def call in the morning to ask if they did a progesterone test as well. I supposed is should’ve asked when I spoke to her but I was at work and honestly I figured AF wouldve showed up this weekend.
@purplg8r I had three to four follicles the day before and the day of the IUI I only had two. So between that and my description of the times of my sharp pains, they knew I was in the middle of ovulating, they didn't actually scan for long enough to see it, but how cool would that be! Not sure if you're as nerdy as me but I think looking at pictures of eggs releasing from the follicles is so gross looking! I will have to see if I can find it, but there is some guy out there that released some amazing pictures of female anatomy and our cycles into pregnancy. I'll see if I can find it.
@darkstar42 my night sweats on clomid are almost unbearable. I wake up sopping wet and basically strip down and kick off all the covers.
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Re: IF Testing & Treatment - Week of 10/30
Married May 31, 2014
TTC 1 year
Currently testing
@darkstar42 Thank you
@ndz2008 That's promising! I'll be thinking of you and hoping he's still good to go! There's no reason he shouldn't be.
@juneroseruby That's gives me hope. I don't think my DH would be against a TESE until he found out how much it costs lol. I would be very open to fost-adopt (I have a friend IRL who is in the process right now) but IVF or IUI would be my preference. It will be interesting to see what he'll be willing to do. I'm pretty much willing to do anything!
@alohakumu I don't know if it's just because we have Kaiser or what but when they talk to me, they talk like IVF ICIS is the only option (or IUI with a donor). She said they'd have to be able to get millions and millions of good sperm to do IUI with his. I think the odds are stacked against us given that he has zero, but you never know! I'm hoping it's a blockage that can be corrected by micro surgery. At this point that would be the best case scenario for us. I'm not getting my hopes up of course but I can wish and hope that, that's the case. It gives me hope that your DH came around wto the idea of a donor. Thank you for sharing. I needed to hear that.
@laurad75 @beachbunnyxo123 Thank you!
@purplg8r Oh no! I'm sorry to hear about the possible skin cancer, but I am glad it at least seems like it can be treated easily. I hope you are able to get your results back soon.
@KristoKekerooni I am so happy to hear that this Dr. is a better fit and is getting things moving! Your story about your previous Dr was absolutely infuriating.
@beachbunnyxo123 I hope all goes well on Monday, and I am happy that you feel more comfortable advocating for yourself. I really hope you guys are able to work out a plan! As for your question, we do not have an exact timeline for when we would be starting just yet, and it would all depend on how quickly we can get things moving. Right now, however, it looks like we would likely be getting started in early December.
@twodreamscollide +1 to CD20 being way too late for a monitoring ultrasound. Like @beachbunnyxo123 said you really should be going back on either CD 10 or 12 for bw and us to see how you are progressing. As someone who did over respond on their first clomid cycle, I really suggest you talk to your Dr about going in sooner for monitoring.
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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I hate to hear that a full cycle was a bust just bc of bad timing like that!
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
@madspunk @cassafrass15 Thank you! Just hearing about other people’s experiences with this is really helpful!
@shortstack930 That’s good to know! I think I’m definitely going to be moving my appointment to cd 10 or 11.
@laurad75 Yikes! That’s what I’m afraid of happening. The nurse looked at me like I was crazy for asking, but it sounds like that is a real risk.
@50wife When do you normally O? I’m thinking I should go in cd 10 or 11, but I’m paranoid I’m going to miss O! Were you on clomid or letrozole?
@Pinky917 Am I remembering correctly that your first cycle was a bust not because you missed O, but because you over-stimmed? I’m definitely going to reschedule my appointment.
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
Diagnosis (If you've been): --------
Cycle/CD: Cycle 6 (It takes a VERY long time for my cycles to start, I normally have to induce them with provera)/ CD 6
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) We've done blood work for pcos and other conditions, the doctor said everything came back okay. I have an HSG scheduled Monday (I am terrified of the pain) and we are doing a semen analysis later on this month.
How are things going? I am trying to remain hopeful looking at everyone else's journey.
Any questions? I've never asked my OB, but what happens after the HSG and semen analysis if everything is okay?
GTKY: Did/are you doing anything to celebrate Halloween this year? I went with my friends bring their kids trick or treating, I can't wait to do the same one year.
@darkstar42 - I haven't done IUIs yet but am on my 2nd cycle of letrozole (ok actually 4th but I didn't ovulate on the first 2 doses so they don't count). I ovulated CD 19 last cycle. This cycle was my first monitored cycle with a trigger. Because I O'd so late on the previous cycle and was out of town CD 11-13, they were comfortable letting me come in for my monitoring US on CD14. But that US on CD 14 showed I already had 2 mature follicles and was ready to trigger by that evening. So if you already ovulate CD12-13, I think an earlier monitoring US is better.
As for what happens if all your tests are normal? Well, if you don't really cycle on your own without meds that is not normal- which again, is why having an RE as opposed to an OB can help diagnose. I would say you probably won't fall into the 'unexplained' category since unexplained typically have normal cycles and normal symptoms and normal tests but just don't get pregnant, but since your cycles are irregular, you may fall into a 'dysfuntion' category (ovulatory dysfunction, luteal dysfunction etc..) or some form of PCOS maybe? But again, an RE can help you understand what is wrong and how to best manage it.
@margorita30 my first 2 IUIs were no meds bc there were no issues on my end and they didn't see a need for adding anything to the mix. Only the trigger shot to make sure our timing was perfect.
The past 2 they put me on clomid bc when you're under the microscope with all of the bloodwork, they can see your levels fluctuating so my doctor put me on clomid to make sure things on my side were looking as good as possible!
AFM-IUI happened today! It went well. I woke up to sharp ovulation pains about three hours before my appt and was actively releasing during my scan and IUI so that was awesome. Doc said I couldn’t of had more perfect timing! So that’s exciting. They just have me take a pregnancy test at home in two weeks and call them if it’s positive, otherwise wait for AF and call with CD 1 for the next cycle. Let the BSC set in. Question-I have been super crampy all day, is that typical?
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
My first one, I feel like the chick who did it was kind of a newb and poked around a bit so I was very crampy all day. They suggested sex that night and the thought of something in me with those cramps? Nah...
The others were done by someone different and went much smoother. Still a bit of cramping but it was gone by the end of the day.
Fingers crossed for you!! I'm glad you had the most perfect timing ever!!
@JuneRoseRuby That's so awesome that you had such great timing! Fx so hard for you.
AFM, you've all convinced me to change my monitoring date. I think I'm going to schedule it for cd 10, since I really have no idea how I'll respond to the meds. Just took my first dose of letrozole tonight, so we'll see how that goes!
@beachbunnyxo123 so glad to hear the cardiologist appointment went well. I’ll be thinking of you Monday. I’m still waiting on the results of the blood work. (And it’s killing me!) I’m trying to be patient. I’m going to do my best to give it a week. And then I’m calling. If things look okay I will start Clomid next cycle
@JuneRoseRuby FX for you!!!
@darkstar42 good luck to you!
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@JuneRoseRuby wow!! How cool on the timing. Were you able to actually tell on the screen or just the dr?
I did an intro and made several posts back in early spring. Haven’t been active since (dailies were a bit much for me), but have been lurking. I’ve been want to jump in this thread, but wasn’t sure when I should really “go here”. Do I need to re-intro on the intro thread? Summary, me 28 (this Friday) and husband 35. Married 2 years. Two dogs.
@gimmiethebump Okay, don’t be worried about the HSG. It was not bad at all (at least in my case). I had SHG on Friday and then like 30 minutes later went in for the HSG. I didn’t take any OTC pain relievers before I had either one and only felt a tiny little pressure/sting maybe for like two seconds maybe when the dye went in and it wasn’t even bad. I know some people really do have problems with it, but it doesn’t appear like that is the majority and being able to relax and not tense up helps a lot (easier said than done. I know, I know). Also, as far as obgyn vs RE for testing- let me tell you about my experience. I was originally going to go straight to RE, but my regular gyn said she could do all these preliminary tests (bloodwork, ultrasound, SA) to have it all done before going to the RE and it would save having to drive several hours each way and money since she said sometime insurance doesn’t always cover stuff at RE. Well, when I finally went to the RE I had to redo EVERYTHING since they said the testing they did was either out of date methods or not enough information collected and not useful. Maybe it is just because I live in BFE and health care isn’t that great and somewhat behind the times, but I wish I would have not wasted several months and went directly to the RE. Also, it could be just because I have good insurance, but it wasn’t any more expensive at the RE, my ultrasound was actually cheaper. I would just hate for someone else to waste time, money, and energy for nothing, so I would say it is worth checking in to.
Diagnosis (If you’ve been): Possible MFI. First SA showed low count and low morphology, but it sounds like it was an outdated method so doctor ordered a redo. We should get results soon. So far everything with myself has checked out ok, so we will see…
Cycle/CD: 14ish/9
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Testing. Met with RE on Tuesday and had day 3 bloodwork and ultrasound. Had SHG and HSG and husband repeat SA on Friday.
How are things going? Eh. Kinda mentally giving up on the whole natural route until we find out more results from RE.
Any questions? I’m sure I will after we get all the results back from the most recent testing. I was really hoping we could go over all of it on the phone, but it sounds like I may have to go in for a follow up. Ughh. When we were there he pretty much just went through our 3 options – nothing, IUI, IVF, and said he was okay going whatever route we wanted. Originally I didn’t want to bother with IUI since we really didn’t want to do any medicated IUI cycles and figured the stats weren’t too promising with unmedicated IUI, but he was saying insurance would probably require 3 medicated IUI before they would cover IVF (we are very fortunate/lucky to have infertility coverage). So basically we just have to decide if we want to start with the medicated IUI, unmedicated IUI and if that doesn’t work go to OOP IVF if insurance won’t cover since it was unmedicated, or direct to OOP IVF. Of course we will wait until we get the rest of the results from testing to really decide what route to go. I guess that wasn’t really a question.
GTKY: Did/are you doing anything to celebrate Halloween this year? We had to take a vacation day for our first appointment in Memphis on the 31st so we did all that fun stuff and then went to a late lunch and shopping.
Speaking of medicated IUIs, I'm so exhausted from the letrozole! It raised my temps last night, which made it hard to sleep, and I'm just exhausted today. Do other folks typically get side effects like this? I'm on a 5mg dose.
@darkstar42 yay hot flashes! And yes, normal
I, unfortunately, am never able to start my cycles naturally
@becca07024411
Oh my! That would be so dreadful restarting everything all over again. I wanted to do everything with the OB for the same reasons you've done (insurance wise), because once insurance hears the word infertility you are on your own. I have to go to the RE's office tomorrow for the HSG so when I get there I will review the process from switching over from my OB to them.
Also, thank you for the HSG advise. I have been youtubing and stalking message boards about the procedure and freaking myself out lol.
@darkstar42 my night sweats on clomid are almost unbearable. I wake up sopping wet and basically strip down and kick off all the covers.
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid