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    Just a quick check (hormones are making my brain fuzzy this go-round), I believe there are 4 FETs and 2 Betas this week - is that correct? 

    I'm scheduled for FET on 10/19 (Thursday).
    **History in Spoiler**
    Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10
    Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
       IUI#1   - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
       IVF#1  - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
       FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
    ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
       FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
    Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
       FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)


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    @hgasic Today is your second beta, right? Stay strong. FX for a good result.
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    @hgasic - Ditto, crossing fingers, toes, and eyes ;) Hoping for the best!
    **History in Spoiler**
    Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10
    Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
       IUI#1   - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
       IVF#1  - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
       FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
       FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
    ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
       FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
    Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
       FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
       FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)


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    20T20T member
    Good luck today @hgasic! I hope you get good news today. 
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    FX for your beta today @hgasic and your beta tomorrow @20T
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    Good luck @hgasic and @20T on your betas!!
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    @coco305 yes I went in for my lining check this AM. The RE said it looked great - I think it measured at 7.9 or something like that. Waiting for the nurse to call me with next steps. GL on your scan for WED - we are almost there! 
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    Thanks for all of the prayers everyone. My 2nd beta was down to 0. Not gunna lie, it really sucks, but I'm gunna try and keep my head up and push forward. This was our last FET so it's back to the drawing boards for us. I'll continue to pray for all of you!
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    @hgasic so so sorry to hear! Everything about IF sucks!!! I wish you all the hope going forward with whatever it is you decide!
    Me 30 DH: 31 Married for 7 years
    Dx: MFI
    TTC since 2016
    August 2017: IVF #1 (11 eggs retrieved, 8 mature, 3 fertilized with ICIS, 2 Frozen)
    FET #1:  October 11th -- Beta only 12. CP 
    FET #2: January 12th -- BFP!
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    sarcasticowlsarcasticowl member
    edited October 2017
    Hey, so dumb question... I know all about not reading HPTs after the 3 minutes or whatever the time frame is, but what if you’re only looking like six or seven minutes later and you see a faint second line? Is that an evap line at that point? Asking for a... friend?

    also, @hgasic I’m sorry I posted this before noticing your update. It seems callous and rude coming after your sad news. I’m sorry.
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    AspiringMomAspiringMom member
    edited October 2017
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    @hgasic I am so sorry to see your update! IVF sucks. Sending you hugs. 
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @sarcasticowl you’re already testing?  :D wasn’t your FET on Thurs? A day after mine?
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 I’m actually trying to find out at what point the HCG dissipates after the wash I had on Tuesday. I assumed it would be gone by now because I didn’t think it used as many units as the trigger shot (10,000) but it looks like it’s still showing up (but really faint). I know it’s not possible to get a positive this early short of being pregnant with twins - plenty of stories of faint BFPs with multiples - so I assume it’s just my HCG wash. I’m using Amazon cheapie strips!
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    @sarcasticowl does the line get lighter every day?
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 I haven’t seen a change in it, but I’ve only done two so far. I sort of forgot about it until I read about fresh transfer patients doing it and I remembered (how did I forget I did the HCG wash? I was also there for intralipid; it was 6:30 am and I had been up since 4!) so I thought I’d try it out. It’s super faint though so I can only imagine it’s about gone and it’s not some sort of ultra early positive.
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    @sarcasticowl well, if it gets darker, then you know what that means ;)
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 I think my eyes are just getting burned out staring at white space LOL. Doubt it will get darker any time soon if at all. Seems like such a dumb waste of time but there’s nothing out there about how long it takes the wash to disappear, just the trigger. I have no idea how many units they use for the wash vs. trigger so since I love peeing on anything that changes color, I guess I’ll keep doing it since I have no other hobbies than checking my underwear and toilet paper LOLOL. What have we become???
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    @sarcasticowl ohhh I’m staying away from HPT!!!

    **TW**
    Especially after my cp when the line became lighter  :'(


    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @hgasic  I'm sorry about what happened. Please know that we are here for you. Your optimism is very encouraging. It is difficult to have the will to get up after a fall but you have it. May your heart and mind remain strong. Sending you tight internet hugs!!!!

    @MamaK225 I'm praying for a successful FET on Thursday. Sending out sticky vibes.

    @rainbows2018 Yay for a nice looking lining!

    @mjbarretto Feel better soon. I hope those nausea won't be so severe. Take it easy.

    @sarcasticowl and @prudence9-2 you had funny exchanges back there about POAS :smiley:
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    @hgasic so sorry to hear. I can’t imagine how tough it must be for you. Hope you find a path to move forward. IF truly sucks.

    @sarcasticowl what’s the wash? Is that something they use during the transfer cycle? I did so much research on ER but I feel like I know nothing about the transfer.


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    :lurking: @sarcasticowl I actually got my positive 3 days after transfer on a home HPT, so you never know... I also did 2 trigger shots. One 7 days before transfer and one the day of. Positives never went away and always stayed the same darkness. Fingers crossed for you. 
    I was checking up on you @prudence9-2. Hope you are surviving your TWW. :)

    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
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    @Holls214 thanks. I’m doing okay. So far on day 5 after transfer. Going to try and not test in fear of another chemical. 

    How are you doing? When is your u/s? How far along are you?
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 the 2ww is beyond brutal... I am horrible when it comes to testing early. Like a crazy woman I swear, so don't be like me haha. I am thinking happy, sticky thoughts for you. :) U/S is next week on Tuesday, seems like my doctors office takes longer than others.
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
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    @Holls214 I know if I start testing I won’t be able to stop. So I’m going to try and not start :)

    Will you be after 6 weeks at time of the u/s?
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 like 6w5d at that time yes. Yeah once you start it’s impossible to stop. Hopefully the week will go by quick for you and you are able to get some relaxation in. 
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
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    Thanks @Hollls214 :)


    Are you having any symptoms already? Nausea?
    good luck next week! FX for a strong heartbeat!!!
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @prudence9-2 yes exhausted and a bit of nasuea in the morning. Thanks!! 
    TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy. 
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    @rainbows2018 the HCG wash is basically HCG mixed in saline and squirted into the uterus a couple of days before transfer. The theory is that in a normal pregnancy the embryo *may* give off signals to the uterus to begin preparing for its arrival by producing HCG before it actually implants.

    From ivfga.com: In a natural pregnancy, beginning as early as the 8-cell embryo stage, the hormone human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) is secreted. In this early stage, the embryo is actually in the fallopian tube. But the embryo probably has an effect on the reproductive tract, including the endometrium, over the next two days until it migrates to the uterus, where HCG can have a local effect. The HCG signals chemically that an embryo is present and alerts the lining to prepare for implantation.

    In IVF however, between day 3 (when the HCG would normally begin to be produced) and the transfer (typically on day 5) the HCG hormone is absent because the embryos are in a dish, not in the fallopian tube triggering HCG production. There is evidence in animals that placing HCG into the endometrium improves the response of the endometrium to the embryo.

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    @Holls214 That is crazy! You’re definitely the earliest I’ve heard of  o:)o:)
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    @hgasic I’m so sorry about your test result today. Sending you hugs. 
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    @Holls214 wow BFP after 3 days. That’s awesome! Congrats!

    @sarcasticowl what day after transfer did you start testing? 

    @prudence9-2 how are you feeling? I’m also going to stay away from HPTs. I’m trying my hardest not to buy one lol
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    @tinjp78 thanks. How are you feeling?
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    sarcasticowlsarcasticowl member
    edited October 2017
    @mjbarretto I did one on Sunday and one on Monday - I had completely forgotten it was a thing until I read another thread about someone doing that this weekend.

    This morning I didn't see anything so I'm assuming it was just leftover HCG. I had the wash one week ago today, so that makes sense if generally a trigger takes 10 days to get out of your body and that's probably a lot more HCG than the wash (I just read on a medical journal article that they use 500 units, so half the trigger amount) :) Now I will just sit back and wait until Sunday to test again (beta is Monday and we agreed* that I'll only test for real the day before so I can be prepared).

    *Think I'll make it that long? Doubtful.
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    @mjbarretto good. Don’t buy one. I still have one digital and a box of cheapies. But I am still holding off and not testing .  :s
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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    @hgasic I am so sorry :( 
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    @hgasic I'm so sorry. :( We are here if you need someone to talk to. Sending you hugs!
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    @prudence9-2 I’m thinking to maybe test the day before my beta. Just so I can be prepared.
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    @mjbarretto yeah. I’ll probably test before too. But that still doesn’t make you prepare for a chemical...  :(
    TTC history in spoiler box:
    Me: 42, single
    Hysteroscopy: 2013
    IUI #1-2: 2013 BFN
    Surgery 10/2015: Planned to start trying again but had a surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    Surgery 5/2016: Planned to start trying again but had another surgery. (Not related to fertility)
    IUI  #3-5 (with Clomid): summer 2016 BFN
    IVF #1: 11/2016. 30R; 21M; 20F; 8B (6 day5 & 2 day6); 4 normal after PGS
    Medicated FET #1: 1/31/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFP. Embryo stopped growing at 6w 1d. MUA at 9w 3d.
    Medicated FET #2June 2017 - cancelled...
    Hysteroscopy #2: June 2017
    Medicated FET #2: 8/7/2017 transferred 1 embryo 5BB. BFP. Ended in CP.
    Medicated FET #3: 10/11/2017 transferred 1 embryo 3AA. BFN
    ERA: December 2017 - need an extra 12 hours of PIO
    Medicated FET #4: 1/24/2018 transferred 1 embryo 4AA. BFN
    Out of embryos.  :'(
    IVF #2: 03/2018.

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