32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@purplg8r i don't think we will base our decision on an open or anonymous donor, but I would prefer open.
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@purplg8rSA results look good Motility: "fast and linear" Morphology: "looks great" Count: We're a little confused DH thought he heard 2.631 million per mL and perfectly normal. Obviously 2.631 million is not normal so we're thinking that he misheard the number since we had both been told that his results were normal
DH called for results and didn't realize he should be getting numbers so I'll update again when I get the report in the mail.
Holy shit. This PIO shot is the most painful one I've ever done. I don't know why it's so different than before. I'm in so much pain and seriously questioning how I'll do this again. This is only the first night. Can I do them all in the left side???
Oof. @leekat14. I'm so sorry. I'm not looking forward to those, either. Why would you want to do them all on the same side? I think switching sides is just to give the other side a break, no other real medical reason than that, to my knowledge.
Did you ever try the heating pad for 5 min, warm the oil for 1 min, stick (aspirate needle), massage for 1 min, heat for 5 more min routine?
Holy shit. This PIO shot is the most painful one I've ever done. I don't know why it's so different than before. I'm in so much pain and seriously questioning how I'll do this again. This is only the first night. Can I do them all in the left side???
I would seriously try to rotate. If you do them all on the left your left hip will eventually be so painful. Apply heat after you do the injection. If the shot itself is really painful, you can ask your doctor for a prescription for Synera, which are numbing patches. Make sure when you do the shot (hopefully you're having someone else do it for you), you put no weight on the side you're doing the shot. Otherwise you tense up too much and it makes it more painful. I hope it gets better!
About me: TTC#1: October 2015 dx: PCOS & MFI IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP July 2016: Blighted Ovum IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN FET February 2017 ~BFN IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17 Team Blue X 2!
@leekat14. Ouch. Yeah I remember you mentioning that but I didn't know which side. I would say go ahead and do the left if that's better for now, but would definitely mention the pain on the right to your nurse. She may have some suggestions, bc that does sound to me like more than just a normal IM buttshots friggin suck type of reaction. I would try to make that clear to them and see what they say...
Incidentally, I haven't done IVF yet, but my mom's a doctor so I have soaked up an awful lot of basic stuff vicariously. Lol. If you had to give the left bum a break there's also the big chunky quad muscle available (and in easier reach). <img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/l9/h3ty369kfkvb.jpg"> The above screenshot was taken from an IVF website, incidentally.
<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/bi/gi6lipy53m56.jpg"> This is from a diabetes website, but still, for reference. Obviously anything you are unsure about, talk to your nurse beforehand. ❤
This thread is discussing the pros and cons - some doctors don't allow it, some ladies find it hurts way worse, some prefer it... idk. Not speaking from experience, but just some food for thought too, to run by your doc and see if it gives you another site for your rotation...?
ETA typos + Hiiiii @beary67 !!!!!! ❤❤❤❤ <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/aa/tf342gzycr57.gif" alt=""> Care to weigh in on your experience with the quad-shots question?
@leekat14 yikes! I don't have any advice but I'm so sorry the shot was so painful!
AFM: AF made an appearance today so it looks like I'll be getting surgery in the near future.
TTC History
Me: 35 DH: 34 Married 07/2012 DD born 07/2014 DD2 born 10/2018 DS born 10/2022
IF history: TTC #2 since January 2016 June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018 FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@BusinessWife I've heard the quad shot is sooooo much more painful and to only do that as a last resort. I've never tried it myself!
About me: TTC#1: October 2015 dx: PCOS & MFI IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP July 2016: Blighted Ovum IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN FET February 2017 ~BFN IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17 Team Blue X 2!
Oh @shortstack930 I'm sorry for AF and especially for the surgery. Hugs to you today.
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@leekat14 Ouch! So sorry about the painful needle @shortstack930 Sorry for AF Ugh. I was really rooting for you!
AFM, we are in full out packing mode. I got my entire office completed today which was a relief. We move in less than 2 weeks. I'm overwhelmed, but really excited! I can't wait to just be in the new house. Once we are, I'll have to do a walk through video and post it for you ladies so you can see!
Thank you, ladies! Annoyed and frustrated but relieved that the Clomid has finally worn off and I feel like myself again.
@TravelingCouple that is so exciting!! I hope the move goes smoothly and I can't wait to see pictures!
TTC History
Me: 35 DH: 34 Married 07/2012 DD born 07/2014 DD2 born 10/2018 DS born 10/2022
IF history: TTC #2 since January 2016 June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018 FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
Diagnosis (If you've been): *TW- child implied* Secondary IF due to scarring from C-section
Cycle/CD: We're working on getting clearance, researching what the IF diagnosis will mean,
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched at the moment.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Testing. We're trying to get the scar tissue enough under control that I could carry to term, exploring treatment options, and determining the extent of the damage. I'm really unhappy with my obgyn though, so I am looking to switch.
How are things going? I'm new here, sorry! Just getting the process moving, and it's very slow. I'm super uncomfortable with the IF diagnosis given that we haven't actually tried to make a baby yet. They haven't cleared me to carry yet, not for another few months, but because of the diagnosis of the adhesions and almost definite secondary IF this doctor wanted to make sure they got a few months lead time to get us referrals
Any questions? Knowing I have a diagnosis of secondary IF looming over my head, and I don't like my OBGYN what should I be looking for in a new practice? Any suggestions? This is a whole new world for us, and we've been told by this doctor they really don't want me cleared to TTC until I see a specialist, but I want a second opinion anyway. My trust level with them is not real high. Is anyone in Albany area? *TW*
when I birthed the first time, they are the ones who landed me with a severe untreated infection and all this wonderful scar tissue
*end TW* GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Sushi. I mean, even if I get pregnant, I can have the cooked stuff and vegetables! Plus it comes with Miso soup.
I think I did the spoilers right to hide anything that could hurt anyone, let me know if I step on any toes. I am completely heartbroken by the diagnosis, and the extra burden this puts on our planning, and finances, and .. well even knowing if we'll get there. My husband is 40, so we *feel* under a bit of a time crunch...
Welcome @ollieandbaby. And sorry you find yourself here. You are not the only secondary IFer here, and I believe we have some other USNYers here too! (We're in Jersey) One of our dearest @linzrunz is dealing with scar tissue, as well. So you're not alone. Maybe she can help you figure out, from her experience so far, what you want to look for in a specialist. You'll find everyone here really helpful, as much as we can be. I know our situation was different, but I definitely know how important it is to find a surgeon/specialist you trust. Word of mouth and personal recommendations are worth their weight in gold. Do you know what OB your friends have used and like? That way even if they don't specialize in exactly what you need (scarring/Ashermans?) At least it would be an opinion you trust to help steer you in the right direction. I have always checked health grades and other sites like that for reviews and specialities when I'm looking for doctors. That seems to help a bit. Again welcome, and GL!
@ollieandbaby BusinessWife is correct. I had surgery in May that gave me my diagnosis. The scarring was so bad that my OBGYN wouldn't touch it. I ended up finding a specialist 6ish hours away and just met with her. Feel free to PM if you want to chat about it. There aren't many dealing with it that I've found and it took me forever to find a doctor that had even heard of Asherman's. Sending you creepy internet stranger hugs as you navigate through this.
Married 07.21.07 DS#1 01.23.09 DS#2 08.01.11 TTC#3 08.31.15 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17 Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19 Left tube removed dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis BC: February-October 2019 TTA: November-December 2019 NTNP: January 2020!
@linzrunz & @BusinessWife I'm just seeing this now, still getting used to the site. I found I can see my notifications in my "homepage!" Thank you for your kindness. I'm still pretty early in actually addressing what this all means for my fertility. The past year and a bit has been literally about making sure I stayed alive, and returned to functionality. I'm incredibly frustrated and angry by how much was taken from me, and trying to do every thing I can to get it back, one step at a time... but it is feeling like one step forward two steps back sometimes. I absolutely appreciate the offer @linzrunz and I will reach out for sure. I really had no idea that this type of thing could even happen, and still learning about my new reality. I got some bad news today, so I am still processing that, but I will touch base by pm when I am in a better place. Thank you SO much for the offer! I am going to try looking CNY like you suggested @BusinessWife That is actually going to be seven minutes from the job I am starting in two weeks, lol. Maybe I can work backwards, and ask them for a suggestion for a good local OBGYN with experience in my issue. Edit because words are hard, lol
Re: IF Treatment and Testing Week of August 7
Here donor donor!
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@BusinessWife ugh. I'm sorry. That's annoying!
@JuneRoseRuby lol oops!!! Are you guys going to pick one that's anonymous or one that can be contacted? And that cracks me up!
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/4b/t5zxh5cm0e4t.gif" alt="">
@purplg8rSA results look good
Motility: "fast and linear"
Morphology: "looks great"
Count: We're a little confused DH thought he heard 2.631 million per mL and perfectly normal. Obviously 2.631 million is not normal so we're thinking that he misheard the number since we had both been told that his results were normal
DH called for results and didn't realize he should be getting numbers so I'll update again when I get the report in the mail.
Dating: 2/2007 Married: 4/2011
TTC #1: 9/2016
*TW*
BFP #2: 3/9/2017 - CP: 3/10/2017
08/2017: DH's SA = normal
08/2017: Low progesterone (4.6) all other BW normal
11/2017: HSG Clear; Pelvic Ultrasound Normal; and AMH, FSH, and Estradiol normal
12/2017: 1,000mg Metformin
12/2017: 50mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: 100mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: RE Consult
03/2018: 5mg Letrozole + 50 units Gonal-F + 500 μg Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #3: 4/1/2018 - CP: 4/4/2018
04/2018: 5mg Letrozole + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #4: 5/2/18
Did you ever try the heating pad for 5 min, warm the oil for 1 min, stick (aspirate needle), massage for 1 min, heat for 5 more min routine?
TTC#1: October 2015
dx: PCOS & MFI
IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP
July 2016: Blighted Ovum
IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN
IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN
IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN
FET February 2017 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17
Team Blue X 2!
Incidentally, I haven't done IVF yet, but my mom's a doctor so I have soaked up an awful lot of basic stuff vicariously. Lol. If you had to give the left bum a break there's also the big chunky quad muscle available (and in easier reach).
<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/l9/h3ty369kfkvb.jpg">
The above screenshot was taken from an IVF website, incidentally.
<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/bi/gi6lipy53m56.jpg">
This is from a diabetes website, but still, for reference. Obviously anything you are unsure about, talk to your nurse beforehand. ❤
This thread is discussing the pros and cons - some doctors don't allow it, some ladies find it hurts way worse, some prefer it... idk. Not speaking from experience, but just some food for thought too, to run by your doc and see if it gives you another site for your rotation...?
https://www.surromomsonline.com/support/showthread.php?156490-Progesterone-IM-injection-in-thigh
I will be curious to hear what they advise you!
ETA typos + Hiiiii @beary67 !!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/aa/tf342gzycr57.gif" alt="">
Care to weigh in on your experience with the quad-shots question?
AFM: AF made an appearance today so it looks like I'll be getting surgery in the near future.
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
TTC#1: October 2015
dx: PCOS & MFI
IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP
July 2016: Blighted Ovum
IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN
IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN
IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN
FET February 2017 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17
Team Blue X 2!
@shortstack930 I'm so sorry
@shortstack930 Sorry for bfn and looming surgery
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@shortstack930 ugh. Sorry about AF making an appearance. Sucks about the upcoming surgery too. Hugs, girl.
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@shortstack930 Sorry for AF
AFM, we are in full out packing mode. I got my entire office completed today which was a relief. We move in less than 2 weeks. I'm overwhelmed, but really excited! I can't wait to just be in the new house. Once we are, I'll have to do a walk through video and post it for you ladies so you can see!
@TravelingCouple that is so exciting!! I hope the move goes smoothly and I can't wait to see pictures!
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
Cycle/CD: We're working on getting clearance, researching what the IF diagnosis will mean,
Any questions? Knowing I have a diagnosis of secondary IF looming over my head, and I don't like my OBGYN what should I be looking for in a new practice? Any suggestions? This is a whole new world for us, and we've been told by this doctor they really don't want me cleared to TTC until I see a specialist, but I want a second opinion anyway. My trust level with them is not real high. Is anyone in Albany area? *TW*
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Sushi. I mean, even if I get pregnant, I can have the cooked stuff and vegetables! Plus it comes with Miso soup.
I think I did the spoilers right to hide anything that could hurt anyone, let me know if I step on any toes. I am completely heartbroken by the diagnosis, and the extra burden this puts on our planning, and finances, and .. well even knowing if we'll get there. My husband is 40, so we *feel* under a bit of a time crunch...
@ollieandbaby BusinessWife is correct. I had surgery in May that gave me my diagnosis. The scarring was so bad that my OBGYN wouldn't touch it. I ended up finding a specialist 6ish hours away and just met with her. Feel free to PM if you want to chat about it. There aren't many dealing with it that I've found and it took me forever to find a doctor that had even heard of Asherman's. Sending you creepy internet stranger hugs as you navigate through this.
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
I'm still pretty early in actually addressing what this all means for my fertility. The past year and a bit has been literally about making sure I stayed alive, and returned to functionality. I'm incredibly frustrated and angry by how much was taken from me, and trying to do every thing I can to get it back, one step at a time... but it is feeling like one step forward two steps back sometimes. I absolutely appreciate the offer @linzrunz and I will reach out for sure. I really had no idea that this type of thing could even happen, and still learning about my new reality. I got some bad news today, so I am still processing that, but I will touch base by pm when I am in a better place. Thank you SO much for the offer!
I am going to try looking CNY like you suggested @BusinessWife That is actually going to be seven minutes from the job I am starting in two weeks, lol. Maybe I can work backwards, and ask them for a suggestion for a good local OBGYN with experience in my issue.
Edit because words are hard, lol