@KristoKekerooni Hugs friend. I'm sorry things are so hard. Good luck -- You deserve some good news some time soon.
@TravelingCouple Our RE is in LI -- happy to share the info if that's where you're moving! Take care of yourself when your sister's baby is born.
So much ivf coming up! While I wish none of us were here, I feel like we couldn't have a more wonderful ivf crew. Here's to a bunch of successful October FETs!
@laurad75 Good luck to you and your H picking out a donor! @dragonette505 EEEEEEK! YAY for IVF cycle so close around the corner @BusinessWife our insurance doesnt cover PGS either, and to do PGS you have to do ICSI (which our insurance doesnt cover either) so we are also debating whether to do it or not- its such a hard choice. I am glad your husbands incision looks good though! @TravelingCouple YAY for the move! I hope any stress you have disappears soon @KristoKekerooni Hugs lady. I am so sorry everything is stressful right now
@laurad75 Good luck to you and your H picking out a donor! @dragonette505 EEEEEEK! YAY for IVF cycle so close around the corner @BusinessWife our insurance doesnt cover PGS either, and to do PGS you have to do ICSI (which our insurance doesnt cover either) so we are also debating whether to do it or not- its such a hard choice. I am glad your husbands incision looks good though!
No one told me that. Is that true? How much more does it cost? That never came up when we have been putting together our paperwork etc. Now I'm curious.
I had my RE appt today---I'm going to write about it and then I'll be back later to respond to everyone's checking!
so today was just supposed to be a consult but when I mentioned I'm 10dpo, they ended up doing 8 vials of bloodwork and an vaginal ultrasound (was sooo not prepared for that!!!). And maybe you ladies can help me make sense of this: at first she mentioned the word eggs but later said follicles. She said I should have about 8 per ovary. I had 20 on one side and 21 on the other. She mentioned something about them fighting over dominance on which one was going to release the egg so that's why I take so long to ovulate. I thought we'd talk more after so I could ask her but I didn't. Anyone have any more insight to this? Heres everything else. It's a long list, but did we miss anything? Or anyone have any insight?(putting in a spoiler box)
~ the bw I had done today: Anti-Mullerian Hormone, TSH, Prolactin, DHEAS level (no idea what this is), prenatal panel ~I declined Counsyl Genetic testing (but I called when I got home and my insurance should cover it. If not, I can self pay and it'll be $350 so I'm going to do it when I go back) ~I have to do a 2 hour fasting insulin and glucose tolerance test. I can do it any day but will do it during pre-planning at school this week ~I have to call on cd 1 to get my E2, FSH, and LH tested on cd2 or cd3 (I started spotting today so expecting to call tomorrow or Wednesday) ~ I need to call on cd 1 to schedule my HSG for cd5-10. But that falls next week which is the first day of school so I'm going to have to put it off til next cycle ~they said to start using an OPK kit on cd 10. I laughed and told her I've been ovulating past cd 30. They said if I get to cd 19, to call and I'll be scheduled for a progesterone level check (P4) on day 20 or 21. If I do get a + before then, then I'll be scheduled for the progesterone level check one week later. They said to test at the same time each day before 1pm. But I normally don't get my first +until the evening (and I teach so it'd have to be FMU... Not sure about that) ~she wants me to get a hemotologic evaluation to review clotting/autoimmune labs since my old gyn wanted me tested (even though results were fine) ~she wants me to keep a better headache diary and to speak with my pcp to see if o need an appt with neurologist ~she wants H to follow up with pcp to get a urologist referral about round cells in SA. They can either be immature sperm (which is fine) or white blood cells (which indicate an infection) ~ she gave me a loooong list of vitamins & supplements. We'll be taking 8 different ones each. ~she wants us to drink green tea (me with decaf). I hate tea unless it's heavily sweetened. Anyone have any good ones and know how to make it? ~she wants us to eat lots of antioxidants (mostly berries) and to excersize. Which means Kory needs to start. I asked about my running and she said it was fine and during the TWW, to not go harder than normal ~ she didn't seem concerned about my periods being lighter in the last year, the fact that my temps have been a lot lower the last 2 cycles, the sudden onset of what I'm guessing is O pain ~ *TW* when I asked about why my temp drop and stayed low when I was KU during my ectopic, she said it was because it was an abnormal pregnancy and even in healthy ones, but can be wrong 10% of the time. *end TW*. And she said not to temp during treatment. She said she'd be giving me so much data that temping would be unnecessary stress ~once I schedule my HSG, I need to s he duke another appt to discuss results. So probably the first week in oct.
@adirat if you choose to do pgs because of the risk of contamination you have to do ICSI. I have to check my paperwork again but I think it was around $2500 just for ICSI without the pgs
@adirat LI would be a hike, but worth it if it's a really good place. I'm wondering if an RE would interpret the results of the testing we've already done with our current RE and have a phone consult with me/us. I'd rather not repeat all tests if not necessary, but I don't feel entirely confident in our current RE.
@purplg8r wow that's a lot to take in!! I'm glad they jumped right into testing for you too (hopefully good for insurance purposes too!) and it sounds like she's on the ball and ready to get things moving!! Good luck with everything going forward! How do you feel about the appt??
I'm no expert (I legit just googled this the other day bc a friend was asking about it as I said follicle since that's what they were measuring each time) but I think the follicle basically houses the egg.
@adirat Yes, they reiterated at the IVF orientation that ICSI is needed for PGS. In our case, it's less than $750 more for IVF with ICSI than regular IVF, but I think it can vary quite a bit from clinic to clinic.
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@adirat , @beachbunnyxo123 is correct. Old sperm that did not penetrate the egg will hang around on the egg/blastocyst for quite a while before they disintegrate, so there can be contamination of DNA not from the embryo unless you do ICSI, so to do PGS you must do ICSI, and since we don't have a MFI issue, our insurance won't pay for ICSI, so to do PGS we would have to pay for ICSI and PGS OOP
@purplg8r holy cow! That was quite the appointment! As someone who suffered from frequent headaches, I'm curious about yours. What are they like? How often do you get them? Last fall, I had over 20 headaches in a 90 day period. I found this to be excessive and talked to my pcp about it. I tried acupuncture for 4 sessions and I think it really helped. Plus, it's really relaxing so that's a benefit! We also found out this spring that our furnace had been leaking low levels of carbon monoxide, which I also think contributed to my headaches. They have definitely decreased but I still get a few a month.
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
Thanks for the ICSI info. We never paid extra for that so I'm not sure what that means. Hmm.
@purplg8r I'm glad it was a good appointment -- sounds super comprehensive! 20 and 21 per side sounds polycystic to me -- I wonder if that is what she's looking into with the bloodwork given that and your late ovulation? Otherwise the list of items sounds super comprehensive which is really good to hear.
Can you share which vitamins/supplements she wants you both to take?
I really like green tea so I don't find it challenging to drink, but consider honey if you want it sweetened? You could make a big pitcher in advance and drink it as iced tea, too, which some people find more palatable.
Status
(WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched. Still trying to lose weight.
How
are things going? Diagnosis
(If you've been): Good. Down another pound or so as of this morning. So down 9 lbs at this point. Another 12-13 to go. I just started a diuretic a few days ago to help with water retention issues, so hoping I can still make my weight goal by the end of September. I just want this to be over with so I can get the progesterone biopsy, so we can try again. I hate all this sitting in limbo, it makes me feel like I'm not doing anything and not getting any answers.
GTKY: If you could only have
one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Assuming I didn’t get fat or
have GERD issues from it: Pizza and ice cream.
JuneRoseRuby YH sounds like mine. When cost of IVF was
mentioned he said “That’s like the cost of a new vehicle.” Meanwhile my thought
was “Did you just compare getting a car to the possibility of having a living
breathing baby?!?”
@beachbunnyxo123Sorry
about the stress of the clinic not calling you back. That’s so frustrating!
BusinessWife Hopefully it all works out with retrieval and
attending the family wedding.
50Wife I hope you get good news. Everything crossed for
you!
AlohaKumu Mmmm…. Pesto pasta with shrimp and ice cream…
my kinda meal!
KristoKekerooni
Sorry you’re having a rough time. I hope you can take some time for yourself to
do something relaxing that you enjoy.
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
@travelingcouple This is your time to focus on you and your
family, and moving.You shouldn’t feel
obligated to go help with a baby.Hopefully your sister understands.
@KristoKekerooni I love your charts. And how organized you are. I am so sorry you're stressed right now. Hugs.
@JuneRoseRuby I definitely get where your H is coming from. We were about to renovate our bathroom and change our windows to impact windows (Florida problems) before this. Now that is all on the back burner. @BertieMeetsGertie no experience with fertilaid although I did put my DH on therologix supplements which I think is similar. No improvement thus far but I think that's just his issues. It's definitely worth a try. @BusinessWife I spent a lot of this weekend lurking discussions on PGS testing on the IF board. There were a lot of studies posted that called it into question to say the least. I'm on the fence again as well especially since I may not have many eggs to work with. @AlohaKumu FX for you and your H tomorrow. @TravelingCouple sorry about AF but I hope you will be able to enjoy all the excitement that comes with a new home. I hope your sister will understand if you can't help her right now (I know I wouldn't be able to do it). @purplg8r sounds like a pretty comprehensive evaluation and a very wholistic approach which is good. If I remember correctly I think my RE said that >10 follicles per side can be a sign of PCOS but that was on day 3 u/s so I'm not sure if that applies here. Either way they are testing your hormone levels as well which will help interpret that. DHEAS is an androgen ('male' hormone kind of like testosterone) that we also produce. It can be high sometimes in PCOS.
Diagnosis: MFI, low AMH
Cycle/CD: many/ doesn't matter
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): on BCP
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Waiting to start stims for IVF. Tentative day to start stims is 8/24.
How are things going? Bad. Found out yesterday my AMH has dropped from 0.39 to 0.13. Didn't think it could get much worse. This is exactly my worst nightmare. Now that we are sorting out DH's problem (or more like trying to bypass it since we still don't really know what the problem is) my problem is getting worse and may now be the reason we can't get pg. We are completely oop for this so if we don't get any eggs with this first round we will have to take a break for months if not years before we can afford to do this again. Currently waiting for the nurses to discuss with the RE tomorrow (somehow he's not in the office today or yesterday??) then they will let me know if my protocol will need to be changed or what he wants to do about it.
Any questions?
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Maybe pizza, especially if I could get different toppings.
@safire3 oh girl, I'm so sorry your AMH dropped. How incredibly frustrating. I hope the RE is able to assuage some of your concerns. FX you get several good follies! Hugs, friend.
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
@kiwi2628 wait.. I never heard about contamination... my first cycle that I did PGS/PGD on was not icsi at all (because at the time for some reason it wasn't covered for me though now it is) why would it be bad to test non icsi embies?? Now I'm like...wtf?? Did I waste thousands of dollars? ugh
@purplg8r that's lots of antral follicles.. are you pcos? if not that's awesome. Is this your first time getting AMH and etc? My insurance covered Counsyl so hopefully it is for you too. Yeah... no point of temping during a treatment cycle...
AFM... I just started estrogen priming last night... I think I'm having a tiny bit of anxiety because everything is starting now and I thought it would be several days... I just feel a bit thrown since I used to be able to know when I oed but since doing IVF I'm much more like wtf. I guess I'm just worried I'm starting priming too soon. But I gotta trust my new doc so I'm going with it. Also nervous to be back on the antangonist protocol since my last attempts with it were not brilliant. Blah! But still excited to be trying again
@beachbunnyxo123 I ma happy to hear that this new clinic is a better fit. It is so crazy that no one ever got back to you from the old clinic! Definitely seems like you are making a good choice to stick with the new RE!
@RVAmom315 I feel you on the testing! I haven't taken a test since April, and I am so happy I stopped. I feel free again!!!
So happy to see you moving along @dragonette505!
FX for you @50Wife!!!
@TravelingCouple Yay for the move!! I also want you to know I fully support that you do whatever is best for you when it comes to your sister. You definitely have a lot going on right now, and I think it is completely understandable that you would not want to take on even more.
So sorry to hear about your AMH @safire3.Diagnosis (If you've been): Unexplained
Cycle/CD: Cycle 16/ CD 21 Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI on CD13 and 14 How are things going? Meh. I am pretty much just angry at the world right now. I had a lot of nonsense go down at work last week, and I am still just so aggravated over what happened there. On top of that, I already feel like this cycle was a fail and I wish I could just be done with all of this already. Any questions? I had my 7dpo blood work done this morning and my progesterone came back at a 13. My nurse said that this number is fine and it is still in the normal range, but I feel like I have read before that for a medicated cycle they would expect to see a level over 15. Is this something I should be concerned over, or am I just getting myself worked up for nothing??
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? This is a tough one because I just love all food. I would probably have to go with pizza though.
@adirat and @dragonette505 now I am doing some research- some labs require it while others don't, and there is some debate about whether it is helpful or not, so I wouldn't be too worried
@safire3 I just wanted to say that I'm really sorry about your AMH numbers dropping.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@dpjennifer Good for you on sticking to your diet!
@purplg8r I feel like those are pretty high numbers. I had 14 on one and 17 on another on a day 3 AFC, and while my nurse said it was a good number, my RE said that it was too high. I haven't heard of them doing AFCs after ovulation though. You should be able to check your patient portal for the exact results. I also got an Ovarian Assessment document a few weeks later that helped explain all of the numbers and how the correlate in my situation. Did they mention doing Day 3 bloodwork? I second @dragonette505 that it does sound a little PCOS, but that diagnosis is hard to explain. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the high AFC count or questions about PCOS. Hugs girl.
@safire3 ugh! So sorry about the AMH number... so stressful @kiwi2628 I actually think that makes sense, what you said earlier.... It just sux that there are so many different standards and practices.
@safire3 ugh girl, I am so sorry about your AMH numbers. Blow after blow is just so hard. @purplg8r My mom has wicked migraines and just went to her neurologist because shes had one that hasn't gone away in a week. The nurse told her about a really comprehensive app that helps you to track triggers and headaches. Are you using an app now? I could ask my mom and tell you what it is if you don't have one. Your appt sounds like it was really comprehensive! @AlohaKumu I am so excited for you and YH tomorrow. Just like with @BusinessWife 's H's retrieval, I'll be on pins and needles all day!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
safire3
Oh man. Sorry about all of the bad news. That’s really a lot to be dealing with
all at once.
Pinky917 Ugh with the work dramas. Here’s a gif for
you/your work:
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
@safire3 I'm so sorry for the crappy AMH news. Hopefully the RE can shed some positive light on things.
Diagnosis (If you've been): MFI (OAT); ov dysfunction.
Cycle/CD: no clue. Month 30/CD1...or 39, who knows. I've had all the intense cramps/spotting/fatigue I can handle for the last 4 days, and yet...nothing. If this shit keeps up much longer someone in my house might die.
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Nothing. Surgery consult but that's about it.
How are things going?
Well, I think the CD confusion above about sums my mood up. I too have work issues. Our company was very recently sold, and I'm not even 3 full months in here, so that's fantastic.
Any questions? Nope.
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Salad. Hear me out here. In my mind, it's got the most variety, which would probably be pretty important if it's the only thing I could eat for years on end.
@safire3 I'm sorry for the shit news!! I agree it's all one step forward and two steps back! I hope you guys get good news soon!
@zwink1 why do our bodies insist on effing with us so much?! Hopefully it can pick a side...and asap!
@Pinky917 can you ask for suppositories if you're concerned? My number (Unmedicated) is typically low (7) so I'm no help at what's normal. I hope you can get it sorted out, that should hopefully be a quick fix!
Thanks for the info! I'll make sure to ask my RE about PGD and ICSI when I go back in.
@safire3 Sorry to hear it. That is really shitty news. If you haven't seen it, there's a huge thread on the IF board about women with low AMH. Almost every single woman who posted when the thread started has gotten pregnant. Perhaps it will give you some hope!
@pinky917 I think that number is OK, but I agree with @50wife about asking for progesterone if you are concerned. Sorry it's been such a crappy time for you too
@JuneRoseRuby I'm glad you guys are in a good place. @adirat Mmmm sausage and broccoli rabe. There's a pizza place by us that does wood fire pizza. They have one that is sausage, broccoli rabe, and ricotta. It's so yummy! @kiwi2628 Avocado pizza sounds delicious. I'll have to make it the next time DH is out of town since he hates avocado. @beachbunnyxo123 I'm sorry you never heard from your old RE's office. On the bright side, it makes the decision of which office to go with easy. @dragonette505 Yay for an awesome lining!!! @Redpuma119 That salsa sounds delicious. Can you send me the recipe? @50Wife FX so hard that your IUI is successful @AlohaKumu Will be thinking of you guys tomorrow @safire3 *Hugs* I'm so sorry about your AMH @Pinky917 Sorry for the work issues
Diagnosis (If you've been): Waiting for testing
Cycle/CD: 11/31
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WFAF (TWW, but temp down)
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Same old, same old.
How are things going? Just angry, the nurse promised us yesterday that we would get SA results today because they have the results the doctor just has to review them, but it's late enough that I don't think we're getting them. I'll call when they open tomorrow.
Any questions?
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Steak, sauteed mushrooms, spinach, and roasted potatoes.
@kariann323 Ugh that is so frustrating! The waiting is so killer -- they should be aware of how hard it is to wait when they just need to review and call!
And now I desperately want that pizza you described!
Re: IF Treatment and Testing Week of August 7
@TravelingCouple Our RE is in LI -- happy to share the info if that's where you're moving! Take care of yourself when your sister's baby is born.
So much ivf coming up! While I wish none of us were here, I feel like we couldn't have a more wonderful ivf crew. Here's to a bunch of successful October FETs!
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@dragonette505 EEEEEEK! YAY for IVF cycle so close around the corner
@BusinessWife our insurance doesnt cover PGS either, and to do PGS you have to do ICSI (which our insurance doesnt cover either) so we are also debating whether to do it or not- its such a hard choice. I am glad your husbands incision looks good though!
@TravelingCouple YAY for the move! I hope any stress you have disappears soon
@KristoKekerooni Hugs lady. I am so sorry everything is stressful right now
so today was just supposed to be a consult but when I mentioned I'm 10dpo, they ended up doing 8 vials of bloodwork and an vaginal ultrasound (was sooo not prepared for that!!!). And maybe you ladies can help me make sense of this: at first she mentioned the word eggs but later said follicles. She said I should have about 8 per ovary. I had 20 on one side and 21 on the other. She mentioned something about them fighting over dominance on which one was going to release the egg so that's why I take so long to ovulate. I thought we'd talk more after so I could ask her but I didn't. Anyone have any more insight to this?
Heres everything else. It's a long list, but did we miss anything? Or anyone have any insight?(putting in a spoiler box)
~ the bw I had done today: Anti-Mullerian Hormone, TSH, Prolactin, DHEAS level (no idea what this is), prenatal panel
~I declined Counsyl Genetic testing (but I called when I got home and my insurance should cover it. If not, I can self pay and it'll be $350 so I'm going to do it when I go back)
~I have to do a 2 hour fasting insulin and glucose tolerance test. I can do it any day but will do it during pre-planning at school this week
~I have to call on cd 1 to get my E2, FSH, and LH tested on cd2 or cd3 (I started spotting today so expecting to call tomorrow or Wednesday)
~ I need to call on cd 1 to schedule my HSG for cd5-10. But that falls next week which is the first day of school so I'm going to have to put it off til next cycle
~they said to start using an OPK kit on cd 10. I laughed and told her I've been ovulating past cd 30. They said if I get to cd 19, to call and I'll be scheduled for a progesterone level check (P4) on day 20 or 21. If I do get a + before then, then I'll be scheduled for the progesterone level check one week later. They said to test at the same time each day before 1pm. But I normally don't get my first +until the evening (and I teach so it'd have to be FMU... Not sure about that)
~she wants me to get a hemotologic evaluation to review clotting/autoimmune labs since my old gyn wanted me tested (even though results were fine)
~she wants me to keep a better headache diary and to speak with my pcp to see if o need an appt with neurologist
~she wants H to follow up with pcp to get a urologist referral about round cells in SA. They can either be immature sperm (which is fine) or white blood cells (which indicate an infection)
~ she gave me a loooong list of vitamins & supplements. We'll be taking 8 different ones each.
~she wants us to drink green tea (me with decaf). I hate tea unless it's heavily sweetened. Anyone have any good ones and know how to make it?
~she wants us to eat lots of antioxidants (mostly berries) and to excersize. Which means Kory needs to start. I asked about my running and she said it was fine and during the TWW, to not go harder than normal
~ she didn't seem concerned about my periods being lighter in the last year, the fact that my temps have been a lot lower the last 2 cycles, the sudden onset of what I'm guessing is O pain
~ *TW* when I asked about why my temp drop and stayed low when I was KU during my ectopic, she said it was because it was an abnormal pregnancy and even in healthy ones, but can be wrong 10% of the time. *end TW*. And she said not to temp during treatment. She said she'd be giving me so much data that temping would be unnecessary stress
~once I schedule my HSG, I need to s he duke another appt to discuss results. So probably the first week in oct.
I'm no expert (I legit just googled this the other day bc a friend was asking about it as I said follicle since that's what they were measuring each time) but I think the follicle basically houses the egg.
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@purplg8r I'm glad it was a good appointment -- sounds super comprehensive! 20 and 21 per side sounds polycystic to me -- I wonder if that is what she's looking into with the bloodwork given that and your late ovulation? Otherwise the list of items sounds super comprehensive which is really good to hear.
Can you share which vitamins/supplements she wants you both to take?
I really like green tea so I don't find it challenging to drink, but consider honey if you want it sweetened? You could make a big pitcher in advance and drink it as iced tea, too, which some people find more palatable.
Diagnosis (If you've been): unexplained RPL
Cycle/CD: Cycle too many to count / CD 3.
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched. Still trying to lose weight.
How are things going? Diagnosis (If you've been): Good. Down another pound or so as of this morning. So down 9 lbs at this point. Another 12-13 to go. I just started a diuretic a few days ago to help with water retention issues, so hoping I can still make my weight goal by the end of September. I just want this to be over with so I can get the progesterone biopsy, so we can try again. I hate all this sitting in limbo, it makes me feel like I'm not doing anything and not getting any answers.
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Assuming I didn’t get fat or have GERD issues from it: Pizza and ice cream.
JuneRoseRuby YH sounds like mine. When cost of IVF was mentioned he said “That’s like the cost of a new vehicle.” Meanwhile my thought was “Did you just compare getting a car to the possibility of having a living breathing baby?!?”
@beachbunnyxo123 Sorry about the stress of the clinic not calling you back. That’s so frustrating!
RVAmom315 Good luck staying strong!
dragonette505 Yay Good lining!!!!
BusinessWife Hopefully it all works out with retrieval and attending the family wedding.
50Wife I hope you get good news. Everything crossed for you!
AlohaKumu Mmmm…. Pesto pasta with shrimp and ice cream… my kinda meal!
KristoKekerooni Sorry you’re having a rough time. I hope you can take some time for yourself to do something relaxing that you enjoy.
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
#BitterHagPartyOf1
@willrunforwine21 I hope this is your cycle!!
@travelingcouple This is your time to focus on you and your family, and moving. You shouldn’t feel obligated to go help with a baby. Hopefully your sister understands.
@KristoKekerooni I love your charts. And how organized you are. I am so sorry you're stressed right now. Hugs.
impact windows (Florida problems) before this. Now that is all on the back burner.
@BertieMeetsGertie no experience with fertilaid although I did put my DH on therologix supplements which I think is similar. No improvement thus far but I think that's just his issues. It's definitely worth a try.
@BusinessWife I spent a lot of this weekend lurking discussions on PGS testing on the IF board. There were a lot of studies posted that called it into question to say the least. I'm on the fence again as well especially since I may not have many eggs to work with.
@AlohaKumu FX for you and your H tomorrow.
@TravelingCouple sorry about AF but I hope you will be able to enjoy all the excitement that comes with a new home. I hope your sister will understand if you can't help her right now (I know I wouldn't be able to do it).
@purplg8r sounds like a pretty comprehensive evaluation and a very wholistic approach which is good. If I remember correctly I think my RE said that >10 follicles per side can be a sign of PCOS but that was on day 3 u/s so I'm not sure if that applies here. Either way they are testing your hormone levels as well which will help interpret that. DHEAS is an androgen ('male' hormone kind of like testosterone) that we also produce. It can be high sometimes in PCOS.
Diagnosis: MFI, low AMH
Cycle/CD: many/ doesn't matter
Any questions?
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Maybe pizza, especially if I could get different toppings.
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@purplg8r that's lots of antral follicles.. are you pcos? if not that's awesome. Is this your first time getting AMH and etc? My insurance covered Counsyl so hopefully it is for you too. Yeah... no point of temping during a treatment cycle...
AFM... I just started estrogen priming last night... I think I'm having a tiny bit of anxiety because everything is starting now and I thought it would be several days... I just feel a bit thrown since I used to be able to know when I oed but since doing IVF I'm much more like wtf. I guess I'm just worried I'm starting priming too soon. But I gotta trust my new doc so I'm going with it. Also nervous to be back on the antangonist protocol since my last attempts with it were not brilliant. Blah! But still excited to be trying again
Cycle/CD: Cycle 16/ CD 21
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI on CD13 and 14
How are things going? Meh. I am pretty much just angry at the world right now. I had a lot of nonsense go down at work last week, and I am still just so aggravated over what happened there. On top of that, I already feel like this cycle was a fail and I wish I could just be done with all of this already.
Any questions? I had my 7dpo blood work done this morning and my progesterone came back at a 13. My nurse said that this number is fine and it is still in the normal range, but I feel like I have read before that for a medicated cycle they would expect to see a level over 15. Is this something I should be concerned over, or am I just getting myself worked up for nothing??
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? This is a tough one because I just love all food. I would probably have to go with pizza though.
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
@adirat and @dragonette505 now I am doing some research- some labs require it while others don't, and there is some debate about whether it is helpful or not, so I wouldn't be too worried
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@dpjennifer Good for you on sticking to your diet!
@purplg8r I feel like those are pretty high numbers. I had 14 on one and 17 on another on a day 3 AFC, and while my nurse said it was a good number, my RE said that it was too high. I haven't heard of them doing AFCs after ovulation though. You should be able to check your patient portal for the exact results. I also got an Ovarian Assessment document a few weeks later that helped explain all of the numbers and how the correlate in my situation. Did they mention doing Day 3 bloodwork? I second @dragonette505 that it does sound a little PCOS, but that diagnosis is hard to explain. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the high AFC count or questions about PCOS. Hugs girl.
@kiwi2628 I actually think that makes sense, what you said earlier.... It just sux that there are so many different standards and practices.
@purplg8r My mom has wicked migraines and just went to her neurologist because shes had one that hasn't gone away in a week. The nurse told her about a really comprehensive app that helps you to track triggers and headaches. Are you using an app now? I could ask my mom and tell you what it is if you don't have one. Your appt sounds like it was really comprehensive!
@AlohaKumu I am so excited for you and YH tomorrow. Just like with @BusinessWife 's H's retrieval, I'll be on pins and needles all day!
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Pinky917 Ugh with the work dramas. Here’s a gif for you/your work:
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
#BitterHagPartyOf1
Cycle/CD: no clue. Month 30/CD1...or 39, who knows. I've had all the intense cramps/spotting/fatigue I can handle for the last 4 days, and yet...nothing. If this shit keeps up much longer someone in my house might die.
Nothing. Surgery consult but that's about it.
Any questions?
Nope.
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be?
Salad. Hear me out here. In my mind, it's got the most variety, which would probably be pretty important if it's the only thing I could eat for years on end.
Edit: typos...so many typos...
@zwink1 why do our bodies insist on effing with us so much?! Hopefully it can pick a side...and asap!
@Pinky917 can you ask for suppositories if you're concerned? My number (Unmedicated) is typically low (7) so I'm no help at what's normal. I hope you can get it sorted out, that should hopefully be a quick fix!
@safire3 Sorry to hear it. That is really shitty news. If you haven't seen it, there's a huge thread on the IF board about women with low AMH. Almost every single woman who posted when the thread started has gotten pregnant. Perhaps it will give you some hope!
@pinky917 I think that number is OK, but I agree with @50wife about asking for progesterone if you are concerned. Sorry it's been such a crappy time for you too
@zwink1 Ugh so frustrating! Sorry to hear it.
@alohakumu Thinking of you! Let us know how it goes tomorrow.
@adirat Mmmm sausage and broccoli rabe. There's a pizza place by us that does wood fire pizza. They have one that is sausage, broccoli rabe, and ricotta. It's so yummy!
@kiwi2628 Avocado pizza sounds delicious. I'll have to make it the next time DH is out of town since he hates avocado.
@beachbunnyxo123 I'm sorry you never heard from your old RE's office. On the bright side, it makes the decision of which office to go with easy.
@dragonette505 Yay for an awesome lining!!!
@Redpuma119 That salsa sounds delicious. Can you send me the recipe?
@50Wife FX so hard that your IUI is successful
@AlohaKumu Will be thinking of you guys tomorrow
@safire3 *Hugs* I'm so sorry about your AMH
@Pinky917 Sorry for the work issues
Diagnosis (If you've been): Waiting for testing
Cycle/CD: 11/31
Any questions?
GTKY: If you could only have one meal for the rest of your life what would it be? Steak, sauteed mushrooms, spinach, and roasted potatoes.
Dating: 2/2007 Married: 4/2011
TTC #1: 9/2016
*TW*
BFP #2: 3/9/2017 - CP: 3/10/2017
08/2017: DH's SA = normal
08/2017: Low progesterone (4.6) all other BW normal
11/2017: HSG Clear; Pelvic Ultrasound Normal; and AMH, FSH, and Estradiol normal
12/2017: 1,000mg Metformin
12/2017: 50mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: 100mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: RE Consult
03/2018: 5mg Letrozole + 50 units Gonal-F + 500 μg Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #3: 4/1/2018 - CP: 4/4/2018
04/2018: 5mg Letrozole + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #4: 5/2/18
@safire3 so sorry the amh wasn't what you wanted to hear... But at least we should be somewhat stimming together! (((Hugs)))
And now I desperately want that pizza you described!
Dating: 2/2007 Married: 4/2011
TTC #1: 9/2016
*TW*
BFP #2: 3/9/2017 - CP: 3/10/2017
08/2017: DH's SA = normal
08/2017: Low progesterone (4.6) all other BW normal
11/2017: HSG Clear; Pelvic Ultrasound Normal; and AMH, FSH, and Estradiol normal
12/2017: 1,000mg Metformin
12/2017: 50mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: 100mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: RE Consult
03/2018: 5mg Letrozole + 50 units Gonal-F + 500 μg Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #3: 4/1/2018 - CP: 4/4/2018
04/2018: 5mg Letrozole + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #4: 5/2/18
@BusinessWife I'm so thankful that I will hopefully be going through this with some of you! Will you start stims on CD1?
@KariAnn323 that sucks. I hope you get it first thing in the morning and FX for good results.
Not sure if it's worth even telling ppl anymore