Chart Stalk & Questions Thread 7/4

dukestar5

Good morning!  Quick question...I got a positive OPK early yesterday morning (5:30am), so I anticipated a BBT shift this morning, but it was in the normal range for me (97.5).
I've read that ovulation usually takes place 24-36 hours after the LH surge.  Has it been the case for anyone that they don't see the surge immediately, but rather two days after?  In the past, my temp has risen the day after the positive opk.
(FWIW, I also took another opk last night and this morning...both negative).

doxiemoxie212

@dukestar5 I always get 2 days of blazing positive OPKs, and my temp shifts 1-2 days after the last day of positive OPKs. 

catlady1215

@adirat it was the nt scan with the blood work combined. At 12 wks we had a 1 in 20 chances. They suggested and amnio but I was scared to risk it. So we waited and just redid the bloodwork at 16 wks and it moved to 1 in 110. I don't remember what this office was called that didn't it. Not the OB. But the high risk and genetic specialist I think.
after birth, my son had no issues and no special tests done. He is on the autism spectrum but from what I've read, that has no connection to those results.

our first loss was spontaneous so no testing could be done. But my second's testing came back with trisomy 21.
my dr didn't even hint towards testing yet. I don't know if she's chalking the second up to us not waiting long before trying again? (it was the first cycle after. Then she had us benched for 6 months after the 2nd though). So quality testing is just bloodwork? For both of us?

I'm so sorry about your loss. I can't even imagine. I'd love to hear any info you might have. And def plan on reading that book. Like i said I'm really curious about this all now. 

charlestonchew

@dukestar5 I've ovulated two days after my first positive before

adirat

@catlady1215 With the constellation of events you mention, I certainly think more testing is warranted. Depending on what your insurance covers, there are a few options. If it were I, I'd ask for genetic testing for both of you (I would ask for both a reproductive screen, which will test you and your partner for genetic conditions you may carry, and a microarray, which can reveal chromosomal issues that could contribute to higher risk of trisomies or other problems). You may want to ask for RPL testing, but I doubt that any clotting, etc., issues will be the culprit -- rather I think there's an underlying sperm or egg quality issue. While there are definitely lifestyle issues that can improve both sperm and egg quality, if it were I, I'd want to get to the bottom of it. For instance, if one of you has a translocation or chromosomal mosaicism, lifestyle changes likely won't be enough to prevent future losses. These tests can be done through bloodwork -- you wouldn't need anything more invasive. 

I do not know much about the connection between high risk NIPT results and autism; however, I do know that researchers are discovering genetic causes of autism that can be seen on microarray, so it may or may not be related. Really, it's just an area we don't yet have a good understanding of yet. 

Not waiting long enough after a miscarriage (which is also an area where the research is evolving; it's not clear any waiting is indicated for first tri losses) is not something that would cause T21. It could be spontaneous; it could be something else. I'm so sorry for what you have been through. Again, these things could all be spontaneous, but taken together, I think you might have something worth uncovering to prevent future losses. 

And, thank you -- my loss was a nightmare I am still struggling with daily. I very much hope you don't have to face the same.

mileswithmyles

Any thoughts on my chart?  I was having EWCM earlier this week and had three days of elevated temps, but no positive OPKs. My temp was lower today, but I was also up almost three hours earlier than normal.  I took another OPK this morning and  afternoon and they were both positive, but no signs of EWCM today.  I feel like my temps are a hot mess! 

ETA- I had crosshairs until this morning's data. When I input it, FF took them away due to conflicting data. 

catlady1215

@adirat thank you so much for all the information! I actually just sent my OB a message to see if anything is possible.
 -TW- my sister has had about 5 losses, one was a molar. But also has 5 living also. All in her 20s/early 30s. Don't believe she ever had testing. -END TW- another reason I fear it's me.

zamoraspin

@mileswithmyles I would trust in the positive OPK enough to say that you likely have not O'd yet, and should HIO if possible. I actually find that I get EWCM several days before I O, then it goes back to W (lubricative, but not EWCM), and sometimes I even start to dry up by the time O actually happens (but sometimes will also have a short patch of fertile CM the day after O). Anyway, all of this to say, this is why it is so good that you are checking multiple symptoms - sometimes bodies do odd stuff. 

pebbledam

@mileswithmyles - I don't think that you have O'd yet. Keep taking OPKs and temping!

dukestar5

@doxiemoxie212 and @charlestonchew --thank you so much for your input!  I saw the rise today.

peonymay

I know, right?!?! *panicks* @beanship