@funkykey - I love GoT too! Although the first three episodes of this season feels so rushed. I'm not so sure I'm enjoying that bit. I like John, it's classic and remains a good name.
@Dwmmwd - That sounds so scary. I'm glad things seem normal now. It seems like every step of the way if something doesn't feel right I think about what ifs. What if it was the hormone injections, what if it was the egg retrieval. This never ends.
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@Dwmmwd - ugh, I'm sorry!! I'd be triggered too. Either that or demoralized. I hate getting AF and buying tampons already, when I bleed through and have a mess to clean up, it's such a slap in the face- it makes me feel like giving up altogether, and like I wish there were some woman card I could hand in. Hope things are better now.
@allycheer00 thanks I need to hear that and I try to remind myself of that too! I'm thrilled i have my 5 and hoping to add to it...frustrated its taken me so long to get them. Its the not knowing that drives me crazy yes BUT its being terrified that it could happen again and could I have done something to prevent it. And there are ladies that are on top of all of it, immune issues and transferred a normie embaby and are still struggling for their bfp Is it from bllod work and an exam that your RE was able to tell you had endo...or was it simply from symptoms you had?
@Dwmmwd@helloworld9 - The crying babies and lets remember they grow up and become teens that answer you back and think they are always right. AND my favorite "they didn't ask to be here!" I struggle at times especially at how this has consumed my life and life savings and I can never really share it with them in that way...cause they didnt ask for it. I just hope they will be healthy and i'll still be able to provide for them! I will say its hard during the tantrums...like am I crazy for doing this, but it has to still feel al il different when its your own right!!
@Dwmmwd ugh you're period sounds horrendous!! I hate the mess and when i go through the tampons so fast I know the cramping is just going to get worse, hoping you're over the hurdle!
@funkykey - I find i think of names all the time BUT thats cause I want to name them after my grandparents...our tradition is we name after people that have passed...and they were such wonderful people I adored I always wanted to name my children after them now i have to get my hubby on board and that is not going to be easy! But I still want to look into you're angle as maybe a middle name...so i will get back to u on that Cab we work on those woman cards I think that is a great idea!! I keep doing the once AF arrives I tell her I dont expect to see you for a full year, and now i told her she gets one more and then we're breaking up!!
AFM: went for bw and us, E2 is pretty low at 75 but thats how i normally start. But in exciting news I had 4 follies on the left and right today woohoo. They range between 5/10 Just hoping when I go back on monday they are all still growing together!!! And I was sooo tardy taking my meds tonight too ugh!!
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@Hopeful_mom - I've definitely told my mom the line "I didn't ask to be born" when she gets really upset with me, or says something nasty like having kids derailed her career. I wonder if everyone though goes through that stage. And yeah, if I do magically have a baby through IVF, then I do plan on telling my child when they are old enough to understand that was how they were conceived. I agree that it would be different if it was your child versus someone else's. Your tolerance is sky high with yours!
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@funkykey People are amazed at how much is involved with IF. There are so many hurdles that we have to get over. I love sharing my story with people because I know I was once one of those oblivious people who thought life was all unicorns and puppies. Did you find any names you like? @Dwmmwd I'm sorry that your flow took you back to your loss. You're a few days in now so I'm hoping things have calmed down. @Hopeful_Mom Yay for follies! Maybe some more will pop up by tomorrow too! My RE gathered from the symptoms I described and kinda confirmed with the endometriomas on my u/s and my hysteroscopy(sp) showed my tubes are in an abnormal position probably due to scarring.
I'm laying in bed with my heating pad and my essential oils diffuser going. This is my first month trying oils. A friend with endo swears this specific oil helped her. I just wish I would've tried it earlier. I go for baseline us tomorrow. I've never had one so early in my cycle so I'm gonna be super embarrassed about the mess I'll make.
Me:35 DH:37 Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
@allycheer00 - ugh, I hate CD 2 or 3 u/s. But it's not always so messy, unless you have a gush or something. Hope it goes smoothly for you!
I've found a few names I like but DH isn't so sure yet. It's fun to talk about though- keeps my head in the game. And I learned something new - I didn't know that "Barack" means blessing until I was reading about the meanings- so it wasn't a total waste of time.
@Hopeful_mom - I'm excited for you to break up with AF, lol. Also- great news re the follies!
@helloworld9 - ugh! I'm sorry your mom has ever said that, about having kids derailing a career... I think I was probably extra difficult as a teen though, because my response would have been a lot more pointed. Lol! And besides, I actually believe it's more societal expectations and latent sexism in the workplace and at home that derails women's careers, much moreso than the babies themselves. Even childless women have derailed careers - it's not like they're breaking that glass ceiling either.
My H has al ready been joking about saying: "do you know how much your mother wanted you? What she pushed us through to have you?" If/when our kids are being ungrateful, which makes me laugh. I'm pretty sure, even if there's a bad teenage phase, eventually they'll come out on the other end. As an adult I like and love my parents, and feel very appreciative, so I hope I get the same, in the long run! Hahaha!
You know @Hopeful_mom - my parents had to take clomid to have me, and I remember always feeling as a child like they really wanted and loved me, even compared to other kids in my class. I know you've struggled and that this has been hugely traumatic and expensive, but my hope for you is that as they grow, your children will see your efforts for what they are: evidence of great persistence, determination and love for them.
@funkykey that sucks . I have fibroids too, but I guess they aren't that bad because my RE never said to do anything about them.
I have my beta on Friday, so this Friday I started testing to see if the trigger is out of my system. Usually it takes 7-8 days for me. Friday I had a faint line, so I was sure Saturday it will be gone. Nope, Saturday faint line also. The same today. It's not darker and not lighter. So I am confused...I don't want to get my hopes up, but I can't help it...
DOR (FSH 13, AMH 0.48, AFC 6-9) IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@marioana99 (tw) I had lines up until my positive beta. Sometimes people process out the trigger more slowly and sometimes you end up never seeing a negative before Beta. It sucks because it's hard to know what it means. Most ppl say if you can turn a CBE digi hpt (which has a low sensitivity) then you are probably really seeing a bfp. I dig a digi on the morning of beta day and it corresponded with my pos beta.
I use the clinical guard cheapies from Amazon. I know they can't be very accurate being so cheap, but when I was monitoring my LH before the IUI, on the first day I got a faint line and the nurse said my lvl vas 2.5. Second day still a faint line and the lvl vas 11. That night I got a stronger line and next day they told me to trigger. So I guess you get faint lines with those if lvls are below 15 or so... Anyway I'll keep testing and we'll see...
DOR (FSH 13, AMH 0.48, AFC 6-9) IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
marioana99 I am like hopeful but so freaked out by the testing out the trigger thing. God, I've been there with the hope had it dashed, but then @dragonette505 seems to be saying it's a good thing. I'm sure this week will take forever! I'm really pulling for you.
@allycheer00 yeah, the day 2 US kinda sucks. But I find the best thing to do is wear a liner, so that you can take out your tampon after your blood work right before they call you and then they have a thing on the bed for you, so in my experience it hasn't been too bad. They deal with this all the time, so I'm sure it's nothing to them.
Hopeful_mom sounds like things are moving in the right direction. Keep us posted.
AFM-just been hanging out with my family, trying to help my parents and today i got to see my nieces. Very few meltdowns so that was nice. My period has indeed chilled out quite a bit. Thank god. It's funny, why I was a big ole mess, I had a moment of freak out and then my husband was like, do you want to call the on call doctor. And that's when I got a grip. Like I'm going to tell them, what? I have my period? This is actually normal and what happens EVERY MONTH. It was kinda like I smacked myself in the face. Get it together! But I kinda was like how weird, we bleed out of our vaginas every month. heheh. Anyway, I think the pill has kicked in, so really helped and I had very few cramps and didn't get the pain thing. I've also been eating a bunch of sugar and dairy and processed foods, which I had cut out for the past few months. But I'll get back on it when I get home. It's just hard when they eat it all the time and it's in front of me. It's been nice to actually get real time with my mom, but it is challenging. There's times when she just stares at you after you say something, or she kind of just keeps repeating herself. And then other times she seems totally normal and participates actively in a conversation. Often reminiscing and talking about old times. I guess your long term memory is less affected than short term. Anyway, it's hard too bc I don't live close by and so I constantly feel guilty that I'm not doing enough. And then being here is hard too. And uncomfortable sleeping on a blow up mattress, feeling kinda claustrophobic in their small 2 bedroom apt. Your parents getting old just really kinda sucks. Well, thanks for letting me just "talk" ladies. I guess I just need to express it.
TTC #1
me- 37, DH- 38
Married 6.28.14, started TTC right away BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016 ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5. ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6 9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd. FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18 Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
@Dwmmwd. Hope AF continues to subside and you're feeling better... (((hugs)))
I have been temping this cycle so I can maybe be better prepared for when to start stimms.... So of course, I have my second high temp today which puts O at CD16, and if I have my 14 day LP, and stimm for 10 days, could put retrieval like RIGHT in time for that family wedding. Worst case, it's that morning and the wedding is at 430? Can anyone see attending an event like that the same day as retrieval? Or else it could be the day before or after.
Obviously who knows??? - but before, I was thinking it would suck to have retrieval a few days prior and be all bloated, now I hope I don't end up MISSING IT COMPLETELY!!! I guess I just have to trust it'll work out okay.... *typos
@Dwmmwd. Hope AF continues to subside and you're feeling better... (((hugs)))
I have been temping this cycle so I can maybe be better prepared for when to start stimms.... So of course, I have my second high temp today which puts O at CD16, and if I have my 14 day LP, and stimm for 10 days, could put retrieval like RIGHT in time for that family wedding. Worst case, it's that morning and the wedding is at 430? Can anyone see attending an event like that the same day as retrieval? Or else it could be the day before or after.
Obviously who knows??? - but before, I was thinking it would suck to have retrieval a few days prior and be all bloated, now I hope I don't end up MISSING IT COMPLETELY!!! I guess I just have to trust it'll work out okay.... *typos
I attended one of my best friends wedding the day after retrieval.... not my best moment, but I made it there and got to see her in all her glory. The hardest part was waiting for the fert report while merry making lol not sure about Day of.... would be possible but you'd be pretty spacy I think!
ps... looking like o for me was yesterday or today (I hope)! Going in for bw and us this morning so I'll get better info! Glad it looks like our cycles are still very close!!!! fc we can stay cycle buddies!!!
@liljoy Yes, in some states of the US surrogacy is allowed. But to get all the documents and rights for the baby we have to pass through an awful bureaucracy challenge. I live in Kansas and only post-birth parentage order is available. And if you use donor cells you'll need to go through an adoption procedure... In New York, surrogacy if forbidden at all! I've been researching a lot and for me, Ukraine is the best variant. It's far away but if you take a plane it's easier. I found a woman who went there in one of the forums. She was in Kiev in April and she says it's safe there. No shooting or soldiers, no attacks or provocations. I guess that they have problems only in one remote region. But she recommended me to choose a clinic which provides accommodation and transfer from the airport. And I also wanted a clinic which would handle all the documentation, because I hate all the papers and lines. Luckily, I think I found the right center, it's Biotex clinic in Kiev. They have everything I wanted, and the doctors are experienced. My husband calculated the costs and in total it's cheaper than doing surrogacy in the US so we'll go there. I'll write a post after everything happens. I hope you make a choice and find a perfect clinic as well!
Tested today, line is gone. I doubt it will show up again, but who knows. I am 10dpo so I have a few more days to go before it becomes a late implantation...
DOR (FSH 13, AMH 0.48, AFC 6-9) IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@marioana99. Hanging there!!! 10dpo is still so early (((hugs)))
@dragonfly1809 yay! Yes fx everything keeps humming along just as it should for both of us! We should know before very long how close our cycles turn out to be! Lol cycle buddy. I haven't had one of those since ttgp days! ;)
@marioana99 Was your transfer a 3 day or 5 day? like my 10 dpo (or in this case days post trigger) would have been 7 days post 5 day transfer which most people don't get positives on.
@BusinessWife Yeah, I always think its kinda nice to have a cycle buddy!
@Dwmmwd Dealing with this stuff can be so stressful...I also think you know, you are dealing with family stuff as well...but so glad you are getting time with your mom. You are doing so great dealing with all of this. Sending hugs
@marioana99 its still really early. I think actually getting the negative is good right? Bc then if you get a positive you know its real, right? I've never tested out the trigger. That sounds really stressful to me. @sammymommy89 wow what huge ordeal. I really hope it all works out for you. Will it be your egg or donor egg? @BusinessWife so much could change between now and then. But im trying to think if i could have gone to a wedding on retrieval day. Probably, but of course each cycle is different. I've generally been pretty lucky with my retrievals without too much cramping. I usually take a nap for a while when i get home and then wake up kinda groggy. But if you have to rally it could be done.
TTC #1
me- 37, DH- 38
Married 6.28.14, started TTC right away BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016 ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5. ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6 9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd. FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18 Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
Thanks guys, I am starting to just feel so stressed and sad and anxious here... idk. DH is going in today to have his incision looked at and maybe start abx. My polypectomy is scheduled for Wed Sept 27 which means I can probably wave g'bye to Sept FET / June baby.... ugh... maybe it will be cool to have all these July birthdays, (DH is July, as is his cousins first kid, born a year ago the day before DHs bday) maybe a great excuse to have a big combined kids family birthday party that month if they are basically 2 years apart...??? But of course now I feel heartsick over if we skip PGS, then maybe there's a higher chance of our transfers not sticking anyway, so maybe I can't get too attached to any of it working out the way I hope in my head... I sorry to be a drag today, it's kinda rainy and drear here and pushing the timeline out like this is sort of a bummer.
@dragonette505 I had an IUI because I ovulated early. The IUI was done on 7/28, had the trigger on 7/27 at 6PM and I think I ovulated on 7/28 about an hour before the IUI because my left ovary (the one with the follicles) started hurting then. @Dwmmwd for me it's more stressful not knowing. I think I am a bit of a control freak and I have to know how I stand. I would go crazy if there was no way of testing before the beta. And yes, in a way it's a good thing because now I know for sure it's not the trigger if I get a positive.
DOR (FSH 13, AMH 0.48, AFC 6-9) IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@marioana99 oh yeah! Ok... I also tested the trigger (as you know) because i wanted to have some idea going into the beta as well. Def more stressful not knowing and then getting a phone call at work with bad news and being thrown for a loop. Fingers crossed for you that it is only the best news!! @BusinessWife You have every right to feel stressful and anxious. This is one of the most important things you will ever do that is costing as much as several college education (i keep thinking about how many kids i could educate trying to make one kid ) Are you still on the PGS fence? I feel like if you get a bunch of embies it might really help to be able to select the healthy ones and get you to the finish line quicker. If someone told me today they would guarantee me 10 embies I would do pgs on them for sure. It also saves you money on transfers because youd only be transferring ones that can become babies. It really is a tough call, but might be worth it for you in the end.
@dragonette505. Yeah, it looks like we are leaning closer to not testing, as crazy as that sounds. DH us super weirded out by the thought of extracting cells to test when it is still so small! Hard figuring how to politely say it to the doctor, but I'm not sure how 100% I trust the tests. So not to say that I have a problem discarding truly abnormal, but it's the finality of it, and how do you know for certain??? We are talking cutting edge of reproductive medicine here and pushing the boundaries of human understanding of reproduction at the smallest cellular level!! It's amazing! But there's a part of me that says if we keep them all, then we can try to let God/nature sort it out as long as we can still eventually transfer all. But heartbreaking knowing I could be signing myself up for 40% of losses/ failed transfers. :/ it just sucks all around and I am still just mad and sad that we are even here, I guess is what it comes down to.
And the kicker is all the FETs are covered, as long as we keep this insurance, where the PGS would be OOP, so... hate to say that plays a role too bc even if we had to come up with the cash up front, we were still hoping it might be reimbursed. Now that we know it won't be, it really does make us ask ourselves again if it's really the best decision for us. No pressure.
@BusinessWife Free FET's is awesome. Mine are free after a yearly deductible. Are you thinking of transferring multiples? That might also help even out your odds. I am obviously in a place where I cant risk one false positive abnormal result in PGS. Anything they discard that is in error might be my one and only shot. I guess the only thing I can say is that once you do make your final decision, trust yourself and know you made the best choice for your own situation with you best knowledge. Does your clinic use embryoscope? That can also supposedly give you at least a small insight on how your embies develop (I'm considering this as well).
@dragonette505 ah! That was what I meant to ask my doctor too! I will ask the nurse when I talk to her... they should have an app where you can log in and watch them hanging out, doing their thing, like at doggie daycare! :D. But seriously, it's probably better maybe they don't give patients 24/7 access bc you think we would obsess much??? Lol. I would just have it on my phone by my station at work or be home watching all day! Grow, em-babies!! Grow!!!
I did talk to the doctor about transferring multiples and she said no, it would just be one. That the added risk of the complications that come with multiples isn't worth it. I'm fine with that for now, but that tune may change depending on how many we are working with and how much older I may be down the line. For now at 34 I think it makes sense, but maybe over 40 it's a different story??? Idk. :/ I haven't had any losses and our genetic screening all looked good, so fx there's no major reason for concern, I guess is how my team are hoping...
What about you? Are they planning a fresh transfer? Or will you freeze and wait for GET? Or does it all depend how the retrival/blasts do?
@BusinessWife OMG.. I would obsess over an embie-cam! lol I have to ask if we can get an embie vid! Its extra for us to do embryoscope, but they say its a healthier environment because they never come out for observation, so we figure its something to do.
Yeah they don't usually want to do the multiples on ladies your age just because all else being healthy, youre likely to have a perfect preg with one.
We are planning to bank, so I will likely do another cycle after this one as soon as I can. I still have 3 frosties in the bank, but who doesn't want more? If I get any that look decent in 2 cycles, I will likely do a transfer after that.
@dragonette505 so excited for you to add to the bank this go round!! That's awesome!
A small bit of good news! Doc says no antibiotic needed for DH!!! <img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/smile.png" height="20"><span> proud of him for going in and letting him take a look </span>
@sammymommy89 glad you found a clinic to make this work, thats a whole other world and so many other things to worry about!! Best of luck and keep us posted!
marioana99 hang in there - could be the test, sending u hugs and thinking sticky vibes!
@BusinessWife I sit here trying to figure out my ER as well and you never know how things will be. Last cycle I stemmed 14 days which felt like forever and so far this cycle i'm already progressing faster. Each ER is different, I've done a bunch and there was only one where i really needed sleep the entire day. Hang in there and wait till you get in it...you'll see how things literally change in a day! Glad DH get a pass...my OH isn't always as agreeable! As for the timeline, tomorrow is my due date and having twins they would've/should've been here in july so its hard not always looking at the due date! PGS is such a tough decision and I would've given the same advice you were already given! I'm 41 now ugh and I still struggle with the process all the time. They don't discard the abnormal ones so at least I know i can re-test them if I need be. I pray the normies i have will be enough! Glad FETs are covered. None of mine is but my NC was horrible I pray to never have to go through it again!
dragonette505 hope this morning went well! Are your frosties PGS? Are you doing that this cycle?
Dwmmwd glad you're feeling better and sending you strength and continued good times with your family.
AFM: Ok ladies back from my appt. Looking like these 8 follies are all still in it. E2 went from 75 - 242 so thats exciting for me. I feel like after 5 days of meds I already have a follicle at 13 so a lil nervous that i haven't even been to acupuncture yet so hoping that wont effect anything and I've got normal eggs cooking in there. I have 4 follies on the right and left and so far they have all progressed so hoping they will keep doing that. I'm concerned with the one that jumped from a 9 to a 13...big mama!! So I shall already be starting the cetritide tonight!! I have 4 ranging from 10-11.5. And then 6.5, 7.5 and a 9. Hopefully these will catch up to the others.
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@funkykey - I know, I feel that way a lot about my future children (if I'm ever so lucky). Like how much I wanted them! I don't know if anyone has listened to the podcast by HuffPo called IVFML. It goes into that a little bit and I was thinking that is so true.
@sammymommy89 - I have heard good things about Biotex in Ukraine. In fact, I think a famous celebrity has used them for her surrogacy, but her name escapes me now. Hopefully you will have a great experience there, not to mention, a baby!
@BusinessWife - I felt the same way as your husband about PGS testing and them extracting cells from an already very small blast! I can't imagine how they used to do it on a 3 day embryo with only 8 cells.
@marioana99 - Crossing everything for you! So nerve wracking.
@Hopeful_mom - Things are looking good! Really hopeful for you on this egg retrieval.
AFM - This is ovulation week and back on the OPK and temping train. Ugh! Bad memories of me wanting to just chuck my basal thermometer out the window. I have 30ish day cycles which means O day is day 17, give or take a day. Today is CD14 and waiting... I really hope my cycles are regular right after ER, since this is my first cycle after two relatively short ones from BCP suppression then IVF stims.
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@sammymommy89 Yes, Biotex in Ukraine is the clinic I keep hearing about, I'm sure it's cheaper than in California, the most developed place for surrogacy, where it's most expensive (up to 130K for GS if you go through an agency). Please keep us posted, I'm very interested in your experience there.
Thanks for all the experiences with testing and retrival guys. I dunno what I would do without you. ❤❤❤ My nurse let me know they are ordering a lupron trigger for me as a backup, in case of ohss. She said they could still use the HCG, or use a combo HCG + Lupron, or just Lupron alone, to trigger, and we'll play it by ear. She asked me if I had ordered my meds yet, and I said no, bc of the short shelf-life of the low-dose HCG, so that's fine... but it looks like I ovulated(!!!) so we are just waiting for AF now.
If it's due/arrives Aug 20th, I would start stimming Tuesday, Aug 22nd... not looking forward to navigating the work situation for retrieval, though. I guess worst case even if I give her a heads up and I end up having to take a sick day, it is what it is. But it's a small team, so it makes it hard when even one person is out. :/ I feel bad, but fx we can get a decent estimate based on my progress and at least maybe I won't be taking any time off that turns out to be necessary.
@Hopeful_mom No PGS on my frosties... i have so few that the small risk of error could be game over for me Your rise in estrogen is great! My doc says its once they get to a certain size you start seeing that 2 point growth per day (cant remember what size it is that they get like that) I feel like most will catch up just fine! Maybe all of them! @helloworld9 Its hard to get in the saddle with temping. Just do what feels best for you. @BusinessWife MY doc is thinking of doing a dual trigger too. Since I had OHSS the last two cycles
@marioana99 Are you just going to wait for your beta on Friday? Wishing you success this round!
@BusinessWife You're getting closer! Maybe your retrieval will be over the weekend. Do you work weekends?
@Hopeful_Mom Yay for your estrogen taking a huge leap! Did they increase your meds or did that happen on it's own? They increased mine a few times. 8 follicles roughly around the same size is great! Can't wait to see how you progress. I wonder if all clinics keep the abnormals. I'll have to ask my RE about that. I'm thinking I'd like to get them retested somewhere else as an experiment.
@HelloWorld9 Sorry if this is a dumb question...Why do you have to temp this cycle?
I had my baseline u/s and bw yesterday. I have a cyst on the right that is 30mm. My levels are low so RE thinks the hormones won't affect it. I had a 40mm cyst also on my right before my retrieval cycle. It's probably the same one so I guess his theory is right? IDK, all I know is that I'm happy to start. Transfer most likely the week of the 21st.
I see most people have a specific transfer date. Does anybody know what cycle day they would transfer a 6 day blast? I didn't ask, as usual.
Me:35 DH:37 Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
@dragonette505. Yay for priming!!!!! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/a3/9t3bjfsk5w5j.gif" alt="">
@allycheer00. My schedule is so weird. It's 20 hours but my shifts can be all over the place! Not Sundays tho. I'm hoping she can frontline my hours that week... :/ as for transfer, Im not sure. My nurse said they get the lining reasy, and monitor that, then 5 or 6 days of progesterone...
@marioana99. Rooting so hard for you!!!! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/ru/dcgj3rx25mzp.gif" alt="">
@BusinessWife - I know the feeling of taking time off work. You feel guilty doing it but this is for a good reason!
@allycheer00 - Not a dumb question at all! This thread is huge and there is a lot to catch up on. I'm taking a 2 cycle break before my FET. Currently in the first of the 2 cycles. Reason being my husband and I scheduled a Euro vacation end of this month, which will coincide with my (estimated) period, so I told the clinic I'll just call them to start my FET when I start my period after vacation. It sucks to wait but I think it's for the best rather than trying to cram in the FET, then fly out when I should be checking in for the betas.
@marioana99 - I would be testing every day too! It's a nerve wracking wait.
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@Hopeful_mom Oh, I forgot to answer to your post about endo. I am somewhat knowledgeable about it, unfortunately, as I had stage IV removed last year but only because I had excruciating pain for 2 straight months (the most horrible pain and scare ever). The docs told me to get pregnant asap after that because it helps with keeping the endo at bay, but warned me that IVF is probably the route because women with advanced endo have IF usually. It turned out they were right with me. Anyway, the endo seems to affect the fertilization process, not the implantation/pregnancy. I am case in point, advanced endo, no problems whatsoever with implantation/uterus/lining and egg or embryo quality. It was just the damn fertilization environment.
So I'd assume silent endo (if true) shouldn't be a problem if you do IVF, don't let doctors scare you into more tests/delays for everything under the sun. I also communicated with Dr. Braverman and I think he's very sketchy. Without consulting or knowing my full history he told me over email that I had insulin resistance!!! and coupled with endo it affects my egg quality and should contact his clinic!! That was total BS as evidenced by tests and results with my RE. So beware.
If you were to do a natural FET like I did, a few days of Femara upfront are said to "quiet" any kind of possible endo in the uterine environment, just for peace of mind.
I just think one MC does not mean there is something wrong with you, it is such a common occurrence with perfectly healthy women. I'd rather think if it happens and no obvious explanation, that the embryo has some kind of genetic defect that is not picked up by the PGS tests. The PGS test only tells you the number of chromosomes, not if every single gene is ok. And you know my opinion on the accuracy of PGS tests anyway haha.
Keeping my fingers crossed for your next FET, you have lots of normal embryos to look forward to!
Hi everyone, this is my 1st IVF, completed ER on Friday. I have as of yesterday 3 fértilized embroyos. We need to decide whether do a fresh transfer or pgs testing. We will know tomorrow on day 5 if 3 are still fertilized. Anyone here ever do a fresh transfer?
I've never been so excited for AF to arrive this weekend Just finished day 3 of BCPs and I go in on Thursday for CD2 baseline, trial transfer, and then start letrozole that day. I start Gonal-F on Sunday, but I'm traveling to California this weekend.
Has anyone every flown with IVF meds before? I have to fly with my Gonal-F this weekend, and I'm worried because there is no RX label on the box (I ordered meds online, overseas). I'm thinking about bringing my paper RX just in case. Can anyone share their experience flying with injectables? I'm debating bringing an ice pack verses just filling a bag with ice from a vendor once I'm past security.
Me 34 DH 36 Married since July 2010 MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
TTC #1 since June 2015 Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved. Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature 5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP! May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019 July 2019 - FET - BFN Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
ReesaAnne16 congrats on AF arriving and being able to get started!! Actually have never flown with it, i'm sure it would be fine in your carry on.
Magallyta welcome and congrats! Hope you get a great update! How many would you be transferring? I did a fresh transfer and wish I was young enough to do it again! TW (I got pregnant with twins on a 3dt but lost them at 10 wks, for reasons unknown...but it does mean the fresh transfer did work
marioana99 still keeping everything crossed for you!
liljoy thanks so much for the information!! I still struggle with all of this but I am leaning towards moving forward at least with this round. Doing a surgery that could actually harm me rather then help me freaks me out a bit too. AND yes totally get you on the pgs tip, however TW my twin was tested after I MC so the testing was on it all not just the biopsy...why I know she was good to go. I pray these normies of mine will be my take home miracles and wont have to worry about the others frozen. I hate that i'm still so torn with the whole process...its just something that i need. Hope you're doing well! I know this has not been an easy road for you!!
allycheer00 so my meds have been the same all around 300 gonal 4, and 300 menupar which is 4 powders. My very first cycle I did 450 instead of 600 but it seems it takes me a lil longer to respond so I usually come right out of the gate swinging! I will say this cycle I'm a lil ahead of the game especially since I've already started the cetritide! I'm wondering if taking the estrace that surpressed me a bit prior made a difference. Its hard to know many ladies with low AMH told me to skip the BCP or any suppression. We dont make as many eggs so why turn everything down and hope they perk back up. I wish I had all the time in the world to just experiment but I just dont. As for your calendar once you actually get your AF they will be able to pinpoint your transfer date a bit better...
@BusinessWife 20 hr work shifts, and i thought i had it rough...i love all your gifs!!!
AFM: Today has been a tough day - (TW) having twins I shouldve delivered sooner but today was my due date and its just sad. In better news, My E2 did rise to 400 and 7/8 follies are all on point...one is at 6.5 so we shall see if it perks up. Tomorrow I'll go to acupuncture and hopefully that will help make this eggs super strong and normal!
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Re: Anyone doing IVF in July/August?
@Dwmmwd - That sounds so scary. I'm glad things seem normal now. It seems like every step of the way if something doesn't feel right I think about what ifs. What if it was the hormone injections, what if it was the egg retrieval. This never ends.
Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
Hope things are better now.
@Dwmmwd @helloworld9 - The crying babies and lets remember they grow up and become teens that answer you back and think they are always right. AND my favorite "they didn't ask to be here!" I struggle at times especially at how this has consumed my life and life savings and I can never really share it with them in that way...cause they didnt ask for it. I just hope they will be healthy and i'll still be able to provide for them! I will say its hard during the tantrums...like am I crazy for doing this, but it has to still feel al il different when its your own
@Dwmmwd ugh you're period sounds horrendous!! I hate the mess and when i go through the tampons so fast I know the cramping is just going to get worse, hoping you're over the hurdle!
@funkykey - I find i think of names all the time BUT thats cause I want to name them after my grandparents...our tradition is we name after people that have passed...and they were such wonderful people I adored I always wanted to name my children after them now i have to get my hubby on board and that is not going to be easy! But I still want to look into you're angle as maybe a middle name...so i will get back to u on that
Cab we work on those woman cards I think that is a great idea!! I keep doing the once AF arrives I tell her I dont expect to see you for a full year, and now i told her she gets one more and then we're breaking up!!
AFM: went for bw and us, E2 is pretty low at 75 but thats how i normally start. But in exciting news I had 4 follies on the left and right today woohoo. They range between 5/10 Just hoping when I go back on monday they are all still growing together!!! And I was sooo tardy taking my meds tonight too ugh!!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@Dwmmwd I'm sorry that your flow took you back to your loss. You're a few days in now so I'm hoping things have calmed down.
@Hopeful_Mom Yay for follies! Maybe some more will pop up by tomorrow too! My RE gathered from the symptoms I described and kinda confirmed with the endometriomas on my u/s and my hysteroscopy(sp) showed my tubes are in an abnormal position probably due to scarring.
I'm laying in bed with my heating pad and my essential oils diffuser going. This is my first month trying oils. A friend with endo swears this specific oil helped her. I just wish I would've tried it earlier. I go for baseline us tomorrow. I've never had one so early in my cycle so I'm gonna be super embarrassed about the mess I'll make.
Me:35 DH:37
Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN
April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN
May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
July 2017- IVF #1-Microdose Lupron protocol, Gonal-F, Menopur, HCG trigger- 12 mature eggs, 9 fertilized, 4 frozen- 2 PGS normal!!
August 2017- FET #1
I've found a few names I like but DH isn't so sure yet. It's fun to talk about though- keeps my head in the game. And I learned something new - I didn't know that "Barack" means blessing until I was reading about the meanings- so it wasn't a total waste of time.
@Hopeful_mom - I'm excited for you to break up with AF, lol. Also- great news re the follies!
@helloworld9 - ugh! I'm sorry your mom has ever said that, about having kids derailing a career... I think I was probably extra difficult as a teen though, because my response would have been a lot more pointed. Lol! And besides, I actually believe it's more societal expectations and latent sexism in the workplace and at home that derails women's careers, much moreso than the babies themselves. Even childless women have derailed careers - it's not like they're breaking that glass ceiling either.
My H has al ready been joking about saying: "do you know how much your mother wanted you? What she pushed us through to have you?" If/when our kids are being ungrateful, which makes me laugh. I'm pretty sure, even if there's a bad teenage phase, eventually they'll come out on the other end. As an adult I like and love my parents, and feel very appreciative, so I hope I get the same, in the long run! Hahaha!
You know @Hopeful_mom - my parents had to take clomid to have me, and I remember always feeling as a child like they really wanted and loved me, even compared to other kids in my class. I know you've struggled and that this has been hugely traumatic and expensive, but my hope for you is that as they grow, your children will see your efforts for what they are: evidence of great persistence, determination and love for them.
I have my beta on Friday, so this Friday I started testing to see if the trigger is out of my system. Usually it takes 7-8 days for me. Friday I had a faint line, so I was sure Saturday it will be gone. Nope, Saturday faint line also. The same today. It's not darker and not lighter. So I am confused...I don't want to get my hopes up, but I can't help it...
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
Anyway I'll keep testing and we'll see...
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@allycheer00 yeah, the day 2 US kinda sucks. But I find the best thing to do is wear a liner, so that you can take out your tampon after your blood work right before they call you and then they have a thing on the bed for you, so in my experience it hasn't been too bad. They deal with this all the time, so I'm sure it's nothing to them.
Hopeful_mom sounds like things are moving in the right direction. Keep us posted.
AFM-just been hanging out with my family, trying to help my parents and today i got to see my nieces. Very few meltdowns so that was nice. My period has indeed chilled out quite a bit. Thank god. It's funny, why I was a big ole mess, I had a moment of freak out and then my husband was like, do you want to call the on call doctor. And that's when I got a grip. Like I'm going to tell them, what? I have my period? This is actually normal and what happens EVERY MONTH. It was kinda like I smacked myself in the face. Get it together! But I kinda was like how weird, we bleed out of our vaginas every month. heheh. Anyway, I think the pill has kicked in, so really helped and I had very few cramps and didn't get the pain thing. I've also been eating a bunch of sugar and dairy and processed foods, which I had cut out for the past few months. But I'll get back on it when I get home. It's just hard when they eat it all the time and it's in front of me. It's been nice to actually get real time with my mom, but it is challenging. There's times when she just stares at you after you say something, or she kind of just keeps repeating herself. And then other times she seems totally normal and participates actively in a conversation. Often reminiscing and talking about old times. I guess your long term memory is less affected than short term. Anyway, it's hard too bc I don't live close by and so I constantly feel guilty that I'm not doing enough. And then being here is hard too. And uncomfortable sleeping on a blow up mattress, feeling kinda claustrophobic in their small 2 bedroom apt. Your parents getting old just really kinda sucks.
Well, thanks for letting me just "talk" ladies. I guess I just need to express it.
BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016
ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5.
ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6
9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd.
FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN
FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18
Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
I have been temping this cycle so I can maybe be better prepared for when to start stimms.... So of course, I have my second high temp today which puts O at CD16, and if I have my 14 day LP, and stimm for 10 days, could put retrieval like RIGHT in time for that family wedding. Worst case, it's that morning and the wedding is at 430? Can anyone see attending an event like that the same day as retrieval? Or else it could be the day before or after.
Obviously who knows??? - but before, I was thinking it would suck to have retrieval a few days prior and be all bloated, now I hope I don't end up MISSING IT COMPLETELY!!! I guess I just have to trust it'll work out okay.... *typos
not sure about Day of.... would be possible but you'd be pretty spacy I think!
ps... looking like o for me was yesterday or today (I hope)! Going in for bw and us this morning so I'll get better info! Glad it looks like our cycles are still very close!!!! fc we can stay cycle buddies!!!
I've been researching a lot and for me, Ukraine is the best variant. It's far away but if you take a plane it's easier. I found a woman who went there in one of the forums. She was in Kiev in April and she says it's safe there. No shooting or soldiers, no attacks or provocations. I guess that they have problems only in one remote region. But she recommended me to choose a clinic which provides accommodation and transfer from the airport. And I also wanted a clinic which would handle all the documentation, because I hate all the papers and lines. Luckily, I think I found the right center, it's Biotex clinic in Kiev. They have everything I wanted, and the doctors are experienced. My husband calculated the costs and in total it's cheaper than doing surrogacy in the US so we'll go there. I'll write a post after everything happens.
I hope you make a choice and find a perfect clinic as well!
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@dragonfly1809 yay! Yes fx everything keeps humming along just as it should for both of us! We should know before very long how close our cycles turn out to be! Lol cycle buddy. I haven't had one of those since ttgp days! ;)
@BusinessWife Yeah, I always think its kinda nice to have a cycle buddy!
@Dwmmwd Dealing with this stuff can be so stressful...I also think you know, you are dealing with family stuff as well...but so glad you are getting time with your mom. You are doing so great dealing with all of this. Sending hugs
@sammymommy89 wow what huge ordeal. I really hope it all works out for you. Will it be your egg or donor egg?
@BusinessWife so much could change between now and then. But im trying to think if i could have gone to a wedding on retrieval day. Probably, but of course each cycle is different. I've generally been pretty lucky with my retrievals without too much cramping. I usually take a nap for a while when i get home and then wake up kinda groggy. But if you have to rally it could be done.
BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016
ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5.
ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6
9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd.
FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN
FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18
Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
@Dwmmwd for me it's more stressful not knowing. I think I am a bit of a control freak and I have to know how I stand. I would go crazy if there was no way of testing before the beta. And yes, in a way it's a good thing because now I know for sure it's not the trigger if I get a positive.
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
@BusinessWife You have every right to feel stressful and anxious. This is one of the most important things you will ever do that is costing as much as several college education (i keep thinking about how many kids i could educate trying to make one kid
And the kicker is all the FETs are covered, as long as we keep this insurance, where the PGS would be OOP, so... hate to say that plays a role too bc even if we had to come up with the cash up front, we were still hoping it might be reimbursed. Now that we know it won't be, it really does make us ask ourselves again if it's really the best decision for us. No pressure.
I did talk to the doctor about transferring multiples and she said no, it would just be one. That the added risk of the complications that come with multiples isn't worth it. I'm fine with that for now, but that tune may change depending on how many we are working with and how much older I may be down the line. For now at 34 I think it makes sense, but maybe over 40 it's a different story??? Idk. :/ I haven't had any losses and our genetic screening all looked good, so fx there's no major reason for concern, I guess is how my team are hoping...
What about you? Are they planning a fresh transfer? Or will you freeze and wait for GET? Or does it all depend how the retrival/blasts do?
Yeah they don't usually want to do the multiples on ladies your age just because all else being healthy, youre likely to have a perfect preg with one.
We are planning to bank, so I will likely do another cycle after this one as soon as I can. I still have 3 frosties in the bank, but who doesn't want more? If I get any that look decent in 2 cycles, I will likely do a transfer after that.
A small bit of good news! Doc says no antibiotic needed for DH!!! <img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/smile.png" height="20"><span> proud of him for going in and letting him take a look </span>
marioana99 hang in there - could be the test, sending u hugs and thinking sticky vibes!
@BusinessWife I sit here trying to figure out my ER as well and you never know how things will be. Last cycle I stemmed 14 days which felt like forever and so far this cycle i'm already progressing faster. Each ER is different, I've done a bunch and there was only one where i really needed sleep the entire day. Hang in there and wait till you get in it...you'll see how things literally change in a day! Glad DH get a pass...my OH isn't always as agreeable!
As for the timeline, tomorrow is my due date and having twins they would've/should've been here in july so its hard not always looking at the due date!
PGS is such a tough decision and I would've given the same advice you were already given! I'm 41 now ugh
dragonette505 hope this morning went well! Are your frosties PGS? Are you doing that this cycle?
Dwmmwd glad you're feeling better and sending you strength and continued good times with your family.
AFM: Ok ladies back from my appt. Looking like these 8 follies are all still in it. E2 went from 75 - 242 so thats exciting for me. I feel like after 5 days of meds I already have a follicle at 13 so a lil nervous that i haven't even been to acupuncture yet so hoping that wont effect anything and I've got normal eggs cooking in there. I have 4 follies on the right and left and so far they have all progressed so hoping they will keep doing that. I'm concerned with the one that jumped from a 9 to a 13...big mama!! So I shall already be starting the cetritide tonight!! I have 4 ranging from 10-11.5. And then 6.5, 7.5 and a 9. Hopefully these will catch up to the others.
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
AFM - This is ovulation week and back on the OPK and temping train. Ugh! Bad memories of me wanting to just chuck my basal thermometer out the window. I have 30ish day cycles which means O day is day 17, give or take a day. Today is CD14 and waiting... I really hope my cycles are regular right after ER, since this is my first cycle after two relatively short ones from BCP suppression then IVF stims.
Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
If it's due/arrives Aug 20th, I would start stimming Tuesday, Aug 22nd... not looking forward to navigating the work situation for retrieval, though. I guess worst case even if I give her a heads up and I end up having to take a sick day, it is what it is. But it's a small team, so it makes it hard when even one person is out. :/ I feel bad, but fx we can get a decent estimate based on my progress and at least maybe I won't be taking any time off that turns out to be necessary.
@helloworld9 Its hard to get in the saddle with temping. Just do what feels best for you.
@BusinessWife MY doc is thinking of doing a dual trigger too. Since I had OHSS the last two cycles
AFM Last night I started priming!! EEEKK :O
@marioana99 Are you just going to wait for your beta on Friday? Wishing you success this round!
@BusinessWife You're getting closer! Maybe your retrieval will be over the weekend. Do you work weekends?
@Hopeful_Mom Yay for your estrogen taking a huge leap! Did they increase your meds or did that happen on it's own? They increased mine a few times. 8 follicles roughly around the same size is great! Can't wait to see how you progress. I wonder if all clinics keep the abnormals. I'll have to ask my RE about that. I'm thinking I'd like to get them retested somewhere else as an experiment.
@HelloWorld9 Sorry if this is a dumb question...Why do you have to temp this cycle?
I had my baseline u/s and bw yesterday. I have a cyst on the right that is 30mm. My levels are low so RE thinks the hormones won't affect it. I had a 40mm cyst also on my right before my retrieval cycle. It's probably the same one so I guess his theory is right? IDK, all I know is that I'm happy to start. Transfer most likely the week of the 21st.
I see most people have a specific transfer date. Does anybody know what cycle day they would transfer a 6 day blast? I didn't ask, as usual.
Me:35 DH:37
Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN
April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN
May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
July 2017- IVF #1-Microdose Lupron protocol, Gonal-F, Menopur, HCG trigger- 12 mature eggs, 9 fertilized, 4 frozen- 2 PGS normal!!
August 2017- FET #1
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
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@allycheer00. My schedule is so weird. It's 20 hours but my shifts can be all over the place! Not Sundays tho. I'm hoping she can frontline my hours that week... :/ as for transfer, Im not sure. My nurse said they get the lining reasy, and monitor that, then 5 or 6 days of progesterone...
@marioana99. Rooting so hard for you!!!!
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Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
So I'd assume silent endo (if true) shouldn't be a problem if you do IVF, don't let doctors scare you into more tests/delays for everything under the sun. I also communicated with Dr. Braverman and I think he's very sketchy. Without consulting or knowing my full history he told me over email that I had insulin resistance!!! and coupled with endo it affects my egg quality and should contact his clinic!! That was total BS as evidenced by tests and results with my RE. So beware.
If you were to do a natural FET like I did, a few days of Femara upfront are said to "quiet" any kind of possible endo in the uterine environment, just for peace of mind.
I just think one MC does not mean there is something wrong with you, it is such a common occurrence with perfectly healthy women. I'd rather think if it happens and no obvious explanation, that the embryo has some kind of genetic defect that is not picked up by the PGS tests. The PGS test only tells you the number of chromosomes, not if every single gene is ok. And you know my opinion on the accuracy of PGS tests anyway haha.
Keeping my fingers crossed for your next FET, you have lots of normal embryos to look forward to!
Just finished day 3 of BCPs and I go in on Thursday for CD2 baseline, trial transfer, and then start letrozole that day. I start Gonal-F on Sunday, but I'm traveling to California this weekend.
Has anyone every flown with IVF meds before? I have to fly with my Gonal-F this weekend, and I'm worried because there is no RX label on the box (I ordered meds online, overseas). I'm thinking about bringing my paper RX just in case. Can anyone share their experience flying with injectables? I'm debating bringing an ice pack verses just filling a bag with ice from a vendor once I'm past security.
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
Magallyta welcome and congrats! Hope you get a great update! How many would you be transferring? I did a fresh transfer and wish I was young enough to do it again! TW (I got pregnant with twins on a 3dt but lost them at 10 wks, for reasons unknown...but it does mean the fresh transfer did work
marioana99 still keeping everything crossed for you!
liljoy thanks so much for the information!! I still struggle with all of this but I am leaning towards moving forward at least with this round. Doing a surgery that could actually harm me rather then help me freaks me out a bit too. AND yes totally get you on the pgs tip, however TW my twin was tested after I MC so the testing was on it all not just the biopsy...why I know she was good to go. I pray these normies of mine will be my take home miracles and wont have to worry about the others frozen. I hate that i'm still so torn with the whole process...its just something that i need. Hope you're doing well! I know this has not been an easy road for you!!
dragonette505 you're on your way yay!!!
allycheer00 so my meds have been the same all around 300 gonal 4, and 300 menupar which is 4 powders. My very first cycle I did 450 instead of 600 but it seems it takes me a lil longer to respond so I usually come right out of the gate swinging! I will say this cycle I'm a lil ahead of the game especially since I've already started the cetritide! I'm wondering if taking the estrace that surpressed me a bit prior made a difference. Its hard to know many ladies with low AMH told me to skip the BCP or any suppression. We dont make as many eggs so why turn everything down and hope they perk back up. I wish I had all the time in the world to just experiment but I just dont.
As for your calendar once you actually get your AF they will be able to pinpoint your transfer date a bit better...
@BusinessWife 20 hr work shifts, and i thought i had it rough...i love all your gifs!!!
AFM: Today has been a tough day - (TW) having twins I shouldve delivered sooner but today was my due date and its just sad.
In better news, My E2 did rise to 400 and 7/8 follies are all on point...one is at 6.5 so we shall see if it perks up. Tomorrow I'll go to acupuncture and hopefully that will help make this eggs super strong and normal!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!