@helloworld9 4 is a wonderful number! Congratulations!! Your results fall right in line with the statistic that I was told. 1/3 of embryos would test PGS abnormal.
Me:35 DH:37 Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
@BusinessWife Yeah, I think my DH is also struggling a bit with me having to take on the bigger load for IVF. I try to involve him as much as possible in the shots and appointments--actually inspired by what I was reading on this thread, so thank you all! Now he, too, comes to early morning u/s and bloodwork appointments, where I went to those by myself during the IUIs. What your H had to do sounds like a pretty big hurdle since it's in such a sensitive area, so he's definitely done his part, haha! BTW, I love that you sing sillly songs to him as well because I do the same thing with DH, haha. I'm glad that seems to be having some effect on your H's self-esteem. I'm not sure it's working as well on my end--maybe because I also sing silly songs to our cat and it's diluting the effect, ;-)
@helloworld9 I was definitely ready to trot off to the pharmacy with the empty Menopur bottle the next morning, but I'm glad I came to my senses. We're much better about evaluating the bottles BEFORE we start mixing now, haha. I knew this was all going much too smoothly so we had to have at least one hiccup.
I'm so glad to hear you got 4 normies from the batch. That's a really great rate. Congratulations!!
@allycheer00 It is going to get really annoying if I have to go to the pharmacy every single night for single doses, since it's really not on my way home. DH does work nearby, so last night I asked him to pick up the bottles and that worked. Might do that going forward.
@Dwmmwd I do have contact info for my RE's nurse, but I didn't think she worked on the weekends and the clinic really only does stuff in the mornings on weekends anyway so I knew there wouldn't be anyone there by the time we figured out the issue late afternoon. I definitely call the nurse directly for any questions on the weekday.
@Hopeful_mom Has AF made her late arrival to the party yet? Of course she's late when you want her.
@Momifbysea "The answer's always 'no' unless you ask" is fantastic advice. I need to remember that because I have a tendency to not ask and just assume the "no." What a great affirmation to help you carry on.
@Hollis214 11 IUIs?! Dear Lord. I also didn't know you could do that many, although I know DH wanted to keep trying them even after 6. I shut that down. But I understand where she's coming from--they're much cheaper and if her insurance covers them and not IVF, it makes it that much harder to stop.
@funkykey Haha I feel like I'm frequently underarmed, to continue the "gun to a knife fight" analogy. We need a happy medium!
@baker+RN I am so sorry to see your update! Definitely take all the time you need to recover. Lots and lots of hugs to you today.
AFM My u/s yesterday showed ~19 follicles ranging from 10-20, so some new ones definitely popped in there. I think a few have taken off and others are lagging behind, but the RE seemed very happy with how it all looked. So continuing on with the same doses and back on Wednesday morning. I'm hoping for ER on Friday.... I've been doing really well, but now starting to notice the bloat and twinges of discomfort.
Fun fact: I spoke with someone yesterday who got 26 follicles during an IUI cycle (!!). Obviously they cancelled it, but wow.
QFE I noticed some (TMI?) brown spotting in my CM today. Has anyone else had this during stims? Sorry if this has been brought up before. I did have a pap smear yesterday, which I'd scheduled months ago and cleared with my RE's nurse, so I know that might contribute although it's never happened before. I plan to ask at my appointment tomorrow morning unless I see more substantial spotting, but I'm curious about your experiences.
Hello. Not sure if this is right spot for me, as I've going through my 3rd ER in August, with a retrieval likely the first week in Sept. I've had 2 ERs with my last ER resulting in one normal embie. We transferred that via FET on 7/10 and my beta was negative. I'm so sad and angry that it didn't work, especially since the only "answer" is "bad luck." This has made me question my current RE, but I know in the back of my mind that this just happens sometimes, especially since the statistic is only a 60-65% success rate, even with a normal embie. My plan now is to go through 3 ERs in order to bank at least 2 normals (which at my age will be no small feat) and then do the ERA test prior to any FET. I plan to do my next ER with my current RE (mostly because I can start right away, and time is my biggest obstacle, I feel, plus he now knows how I respond), but will consult with a few other REs in the meantime, and make a change if this next ER doesn't go well. I feel like an expert at IVF at this point...which obviously was not my end goal. Anyway, trying to move forward and stay positive....
Me: 41; DH: 45 Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries (2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) (4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal! FET on 7/10/17 Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:( (8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
@Bababatty it's probably from your Pap smear I would think. I don't think I had any spotting. Sorry can't be more helpful. Great numbers! Fingers crossed for you. 26 for an iui oh man that's crazy!! AFM we went and signed the consent for FET this morning and everything just got very real. Anxiety!! To think we could be pregnant in less than 3 weeks I think just hit me. Ahhhhhh.
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@Bababatty - gah! In the home stretch now! Grow follies, grow! Hoping you get lots of beautiful, mature eggs!
@angelbea - welcome! Glad you found us, and sorry for your struggles. Best of luck to you this next ER! There are a few women here in a similar boat to you - @Hopeful_mom may have some advice!
@Holls214 - great news! OMG, I really hope you are pregnant in less than 3 weeks!!!!
@angelbea Welcome! I'm sorry to hear about your FET last month. I think this is a good thread for you. There are a few people who are stimming in August, and some overlap with September, so you'll be in good company.
ETA because there was more activity in the time it took me to send the above:
@Holls214 I think you're probably right about the pap smear. I did ask Dr. Google--the most reliable source, obviously--and didn't really find anything reputable about spotting while stimming, but definitely spotting after pap smear.
Congratulations on signing the form! Ahhhhh that is so exciting and mind boggling to think you could finally be KU in just a few short weeks. Phew!
Thanks ladies!!! Fingers crossed. @Bababatty haha I use "DR"Google for everything.
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@Bababatty Awesome follie numbers! And yup... the pap is the likely culprit for the spotting. You know, when you are stimming often theres a lot more blood flow to those parts because of the added hormones. @angelbea Hi, welcome... I am likely stimming in August and could end up retrieving in Sept. We have a few more ladies on a similar schedule as well so def feel free to join in here! @Holls214 Those consents make it real... Its always so awkward to talk about: what do you want to do with the embies if one of you passes..like eeek! But its that important step to get done!
@babbatty Great follie count, girl! I hate Dr Google! It always tells me I have cancer but I use it anyways.
@angelbea Sorry you're here and that you have to deal with an RE that you're not 100% on This is a great place for info. Maybe you can tell your doc a few things. I did!
@Hols214 You're almost there!! I can only imagine the anxiety. Mine was high with just retrieval. Sure it will be worse with the FET.
Me:35 DH:37 Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@dragonette505 just getting back to you...I start stimming 8/14, retrieval anywhere between 8/23-8/25, cetrotide protocol again for #3, no dosing changes. So we will be close in timing!
@helloworld9 congrats on those, that must be a giant relief to make it to that step! I'm excited for you!
@baker+RN I'm so sorry to read your news. There are no words sometimes, but I'm thankful you have a plan to keep going forward.
@angelbea I so much related to your post. Timing is my biggest hurdle too, and I'm stimming later this month to try for a third time, so I get it. The support here is great so welcome! As much as nobody here wants to be "here," thank God for "here" because the group has been essential in helping me cope, learn, and persevere.
Has anyone else ordered meds from overseas? I took a risk this cycle, and decided to order my Gonal-F, Ovidrel, and Cetrotide from europe (Turkey actually) and it worked great! Overall I paid about half (saved us about $1000) of what it would have cost from the pharmacy my clinic had me order from last cycle. I was a little worried, as some companies require you to wire money (?!?!) But I found one that accepted credit card for 5% surcharge and decided it was worth it for the extra peace of mind. Anyway, just thought I would mention it, I had a hard time finding anyone who had done it before to give me feedback.
Me 34 DH 36 Married since July 2010 MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
TTC #1 since June 2015 Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved. Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature 5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP! May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019 July 2019 - FET - BFN Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
Thanks everyone! For the first time in two years I have felt positive about infertility, ironic enough. Everyone here is so supportive. Thank you!!
@allycheer00 - That's great I'm within "average range". Although it seems like the entire process if a huge crapshoot, the number of normal embryos you can get. I could've just as easily gotten none.
@bababatty - That's a lot of follicles! That's super. I didn't spot during stims, but got a ton of EWCM, like way more than usual.
@angelbea - I hope you can bank your embies! I'm sorry your last one didn't work. It's such a coin toss it seems.
@Holls214 - That's so awesome! I hope you will be pregnant soon!
@Hopeful_mom - Yes, I do have both genders... but 1 of the 4 is one gender and the other 3 are the other!! So I am incredibly nervous because it will most likely be we end up with the gender that my 3 blasts are... given the chances. Not that it matters, but I would be over the moon if one of each took! I will leave for vacation the weekend of 8/26 and return the day after Labor Day. Knowing my cycle, my CD1 to start FET will likely fall the end of September. Are you planning your FET soon?
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
helloworld9 i'm so excited and thrilled for you! I would love to be blessed with both and I know that I will be blessed with even just one but I at least wanted to know I had a chance...I had all 4 of one and it was first this last cycle that I got the other gender yay!! So many tears and cycles just to get here. A bit of a downer hearing my RE tell me you know its not 100% REALLY, like I don't know that...why I'm even trying one more cycle! How am I still so terrified of this process. So I"m going to ask you to drink a lil extra for me and really live up this vacay so I can live vicariously through you Hoping I will be doing an FET in Sept so I'll be waiting on your return
@Bababatty - wow that a great follie count glad things are cooking nicely let them continue!! Just think how close you're getting!!! I actually thought i had an empty bottle of menupar too...I now double check the bottles to make sure they have the powder, its crazy how super fast it dissolves! Remind me are you doing Fresh or FET?
funkykey you are funny my friend, i have been miss @angelbea #1 cheerleader in the July FET board. I originally thought I was transferring last month, so i've been in the trenches with her...and now hope to continue on her journey to motherhood!! Glad you're joining us here, I know you're struggle still so much but you'll be excited to get the show on the road to bank these normies!
@Holls214 - yay consent! I kind of hate that we have to sign one every single time. Like hello OH had to bring his part in himself to this party you think he's not down for the next part? Even all the ER for me, its a reminder each time that HERE WE GO AGAIN ugh!!! Excited this is another hurdle down!! I think I have my FET papers in my bag...wonder if i can sign my IVF and FET at the same time
Bababatty i love that your DH takes such a role and wants to be so involved. I just keep thinking because my OH is already a dad he thinks just showing up with his goods is his part. This process is hard that I try not to concentrate on it. He's always away with work anyway that I'm always on shot duty, I have to rely on my sister to help with the trigger. Some people can do it on there own but that one hurts if I don't stretch out enough.
allycheer00 the "stat" you mention is that based on age? All of my cycles have been so different! I'm thrilled to even get one after one cycle gave me none. I feel at times its such a crap shoot.
AFM: AF has arrived woohoo! Will be going for bw and us in the am so we shall see if the stemming party will begin. I played RE and took my estrogen patch of this morning as well. In keeping with the cycles i got my normies i didn't do too much priming so i wanted to stick to that. My RE was laughing that I'm just doing my own thing...can't blame a girl for trying. I'm the one over analyzing my cycles not her and she was fine with it as my clinic has you usually take it off one you start stemming anyway. On a Netflix tip, I think some of you mentioned that friends of College show...it really is an odd show. I'm glad to see IVF be a story line however I don't think they needed to add her DH having an affair be part of the story line. I was laughing wanting to know what the follie count was and how many blasts she got etc... It's such a ridiculous show but yet I was still watching it.
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
Fingers crossed for you, girls! I'll have my IVF next month. Any advice to the new one here? I'm thinking to find a surrogacy mother to carry a baby for me as I have some health issues. It's a hard choice, I don't want to risk, but still, it feels weird if someone else gives birth to my child...
@Hopeful_mom I think stat must be based on age because my RE said at my age 1 of 11 of my eggs on average will be normal. I figure first retrieval we got 4 mature eggs (none made it to blast), second retrieval we got 1 egg (didn't fertilize), so that's 5 of my 11 down, right?!? Surely I'm getting close to that normal one! I totally agree in that it's a crap shoot though, especially for 40+...
I just need to vent somewhere. I dunno what my problem is. Like IF burnout, I guess. Here we are So Close to doing the things, and I just can't seem to shake this thing where I'm kind of slacking on all the healthy things. Skipping my vitamins some days, or only taking the inositol, maca, but not the rest, not exercising much, not particularly low carb or avoiding caffeine.... I feel like once I'm in my stimming cycle (in two short weeks) or once I'm KU I will have more motivation, but right now, I'm just tired. It's gotten so old by now. There's this goal and the finish line is so close, and it's all I can do to keep putting one foot in front of the other. I want to snap out of it, but I apparently haven't yet. Idk.
<span>That's all. </span><img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/confused.png" height="20"><span> Thanks for ketting me get that ofd my chest. About to go meet SIL for lunch, so maybe that will help.</span>
@BusinessWife I feel you... I'm tired. This whole process is exhausting. Always thinking about it, researching or not feeling great from the meds. The estrogen now gives me headaches, so just another thing. I think the same thing about being KU and how everything will be better. At least that's the thought hopefully. I don't know if you work also but I feel like doing Ivf and working is exhausting. Hoping your lunch helps. I think I need a vacation. Haven't taken one since last August. Sending lots of happy thoughts to you!
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@BusinessWife: You are definitely not alone. If it is any consolation (and this was for me), I just consulted with an RE who has excellent numbers (probably the best in So. Cal) and I specifically asked him about the role of special supplements, special foods and restricting alcohol and caffeine. He was immediate and definitive in saying: They have no effect pre-transfer, as they cannot affect the chromosomal integrity of the egg. That did it for me! I'm going to enjoy my cup of coffee and glass of wine during this next cycle and just take a more relaxed approach. Heck, I've got 3 more ERs to go -- might be an interesting experiment, if nothing else. Sometimes I think the stress of doing everything "perfectly" has more of an effect than the "good" that comes from doing all the "right things." We shall see.....
Me: 41; DH: 45 Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries (2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) (4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal! FET on 7/10/17 Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:( (8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
@Hopeful_mom: Glad to see you here!! Not glad we are both here, for obvious reasons of course, but your posts make me laugh:) Looking forward to going through this next adventure with you and the rest!
Me: 41; DH: 45 Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries (2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) (4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal! FET on 7/10/17 Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:( (8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable) Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
@BusinessWife yep... ive cycled through this mode a few times. I think its almost a mental health rest that your mind makes you take. Its so hard... there are times i feel like a supplement eating machine. I dont think you will ruin your chances in the next 2 weeks (since the eggs you will be retrieving have been developing for several months in advance). I think as long as youre not smoking and taking recreational drugs its fine. Youre better off taking care of your mind than running around like a lab rat doing all the things (i say this as i gear up like a lab rat doing all the things ) Part of me wants to opt out of acupuncture this go round. Even though i loved it, it felt more like something you do to tick all the boxes instead of something helpful.... But its stressful, like you say, to NOT do "all the things" and wondering if i will regret it if things dont work. Its a crazy cycle. I try to remind myself that there are ladies who do nothing special at all and IVF works just fine for them.... Maybe all of this side stuff is just busy work to keep us occupied. Who knows. Just know i am mentally sitting next to you having a similar struggle. My hope is that in a few weeks you are dealing with being ku and being glad you enjoyed your final few weeks of freedom.
@BusinessWife I drink coffee between stims. I read that CCRM does a blood flow test and they say absolutely no caffeine for 3 days before the test so they can have accurate results. Basically caffeine reduces the blood flow, so as long as I stop a few days before starting stims I think I am good. I am not a big wine drinker, so I haven't read about that but I do love my coffee . Exercise I stopped it completely in February after reading a study that said that women that lift heavy have a higher infertility rate. I used to do heavy weight lifting and now I only do rolling hills on the treadmill and walk the dog. My belly grew a little, my weight went down (lost muscle), my bodyfat went up to 23% but I would have gotten here anyway if I would have been pregnant. And for supplements I have medisafe ( a phone app) that reminds me to take them. And I feel bad if I don't click that button that I took them (I think I might be a little OCD ...)
DOR (FSH 13, AMH 0.48, AFC 6-9) IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
Thanks ladies ❤ I have to lol tho bc it's not nlfor not remembering to take them - far from it! Just like ugh... I have my little cups of pills for the day that I have to split into three and take one prenatal tab with each or it upsets my tummy. So some days I just dont feel like being a pill machine. :/ but i have been taking all this stuff for MONTHS niw, so I am telling myself that's all in the bank and it is what it is at this point, more or less. ;)
@BusinessWife - meh, I wouldn't feel too bad about it. I think everyone here has given nice advice, but if I'm honest, I also think I play a little more fast-and-loose with the supplements and clean living than other people. I had a glass of wine while I was stimming, I drink coffee, I eat pasta, I don't beat myself up if I skip the gym. I took prenatals and CoQ10, but that's it.
Before we started treatments, like last fall, I was desperate to do anything. I went to yoga every day for a month, and more besides. I cut carbs, I did all sorts of stuff. I looked amazing, but I didn't get pregnant. I didn't get pregnant when we went on vacation, I didn't get pregnant before we had financial stress, and I didn't get pregnant after we'd cleared it. During our IUIs, I did all sorts of stuff too. None of it made a difference.
Obviously I can understand why someone would get really fastidious about taking certain supplements or making lifestyle changes - this is a really hard journey, and if I knew something would help, I'd do it in a heartbeat! If we'd had fewer embryos, we would have made some big changes too.
But really, I think the most important thing is your sanity and being gentle and kind to yourself - you need to have the energy to keep going, and if pushing yourself to diet extremes burns you out, it's not worth it...
@sammymommy89 - welcome, sorry for your struggles. I think there are some separate surrogacy boards that might have more information on that for you.
@Hopeful_Mom Maybe it was for my age range or my clinic's stats. I'm not sure. I just asked the embryologist how many eggs will fertilize and then how many will be normal. Yay for AF finally showing up and that's awesome that your RE is cool with you altering the plan a little. You definitely know what's good for you!
Me:35 DH:37 Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
Thanks ladies ❤ I have to lol tho bc it's not nlfor not remembering to take them - far from it! Just like ugh... I have my little cups of pills for the day that I have to split into three and take one prenatal tab with each or it upsets my tummy. So some days I just dont feel like being a pill machine. but i have been taking all this stuff for MONTHS niw, so I am telling myself that's all in the bank and it is what it is at this point, more or less.
Yup, I have little glass bowls that I dump my doses into.... in fact I feel like I eat to take supps...
Guys, a bit of a vent from me too... Not that I'm tired of the healthy things, but I'm feeling like IF is taking a toll on my marriage. Some days, I think it brings us closer together - and we've made it this far! - but not last night.
Long story short, I'm mentally preparing myself for tomorrow's polypectomy, and I'm starting to worry. Not that the procedure will go well, but that it won't - and that I'll be stuck waiting even longer for the first FET. Every month at some point, I feel like I'm at my wits end - like I can't do this much longer, it's so mentally taxing. I'm so happy to have our embryos, but I'm also so so tired that I'm still waiting and scheduling things and taking time off work, and still not pregnant.
Anyway, my H is going to be out of town - he's leaving about an hour before the polypectomy - because he's going to a wedding in his hometown. We'd arranged this months before, and we knew he was just going to go (so we could save $ since we have all this IVF debt), and I want him to go and have fun with his friends... When the polypectomy came up, even though he offered to stay home, I was like: "No, go - go and have fun! I can do this one!"
So last night I start worrying, and I'm feeling tired, just of all of it, and DH tells me to "relax", and I was just so mad. Of course I want to relax, I'm trying to relax, but I've had this IF albatross around my neck for months. He gets to relax on his fun weekend, I get to stay here and get pumped full of saline through yet another vaginal probe.
Ouch (((hugs))) @funkykey. As someone who just found out I'll need a polypectomy prior to FET too, my heart goes out to you. That's got to add a layer of stuff to the whole day, for sure, not having him there with you. Who is going to be driving you home?
@funkykey sending you lots of hugs. I know what you mean. While it brings you together in some ways in other ways it is so straining. I feel like dh and i fight constantly lately. Or maybe more accurately its like one day we're at each others throats and the necmxt we completely fine. We've always had a bit of a fiery realtionship but this is extreme.i think all the pent up anger and frustration just comes out when i dont expect it. I really hope your procedure goes well and you get to move forward.
@BusinessWife im sure anything youre doing is fine. I have def gotten pretty lazy about the prenatals and drank coffee and wine while stimming. I didnt even know i was supposed to cut those out. Oh well.
Afm nothing to report. Waiting for my genetics co to let me know they received my biopsys and to charge me. I feel like every day waiting is less of a chance that we can transfer next month. Do any of you have opinions on medicated vs unmadicated transfers?
In chicago to see my parents. My mom has alzheimers so no not a vacation. But its important to get time with her while she's lucid. Its been a rought year and a half in my family. Its actually my dad who is the frustrating one, but you dont get to pick your family... I brought my uke bc i thought my mom might enjoy singing some songs. So we'll see.
TTC #1
me- 37, DH- 38
Married 6.28.14, started TTC right away BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016 ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5. ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6 9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd. FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18 Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
@Hopeful-mom - Yay for your banking! So excited for you to start your FET. I mean, duh, nothing is 100% but at least there is some chance. Better than no chance at all.
@sammymommy89 - How exciting that you will be starting IVF soon. My best advice is to just follow doctor's and nurses' orders. They will tell you everything you need to do. And most of it is really out of our hands too, especially after egg retrieval. I don't think surrogacy is weird at all! I read a lot about various celebs who had kids through surrogacy.
@BusinessWife - You're not alone. This entire infertility journey is exhausting. Sometimes I can't even work at my desk because that's all I think about. And sometimes my mind drifts into what ifs. What if things weren't so hard, etc. There is so much to process and so much on my mind. Constant Googling, constant second guessing myself, constant feeling of hopelessness and despair. And a feeling as a failure of a woman. Like what am I doing wrong? Was it my lifestyle? My health? Why are other women able to get pregnant so easily and look so unhealthy? I wish I had my pre-TTC life back too. Now I feel like a shell of my former self.
@funkykey - I do feel like the struggle to have a baby is a gigantic test on my marriage. We've never had to dealt with anything as stressful as this before. Things were always so easy for us, and we had a lively sex life. Now sex is very mechanic, very much timed and always have to be during ovulation week. It's also difficult because my husband is very much hopeful and on a very optimistic mind set. That's great, but that means no one can relate when I feel so depressed and so sad. If something triggers me, I'm a mess. Hopefully you will make it to the other side and your marriage will become that much stronger because of the journey it took you to get there! We ladies need to stay strong. This is so hard.
@Dwmmwd - Really hopeful that you get great test results! I'm also curious about medicated vs. nonmediated transfers. I have a feeling my RE will put me on the clinic's regular protocol, which is estrogen then progesterone.
My TTC journey:
Me and DH: 30-35 Unexplained infertility TTC #1 since 2015 11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal) FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
Every month at some point, I feel like I'm at my wits end - like I can't do this much longer, it's so mentally taxing.
This... I have felt this way too so many days. It really is exhausting, and makes me want to pull my hair and shout "Why am I still waiting?!!?" "THIS is so unfair!" You'd think that this process would have made me more patient, but I think it's made me even more impatient.
It's OK to feel upset that your DH is going to a social event while you're stuck at another doctor's visit; it really is unfair! But it's not your DH's fault either I hope you can find some way to treat yourself while he's gone as a reward for putting up with all this crap. Icecream? Girlfriend's over for a movie night?
I'll be praying your procedure goes smoothly tomorrow
Me 34 DH 36 Married since July 2010 MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
TTC #1 since June 2015 Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved. Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature 5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP! May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019 July 2019 - FET - BFN Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
@Dwmmwd I'm so sorry about your mother, I just can't imagine how you must of felt when she was diagnosed. I lost my grandmother (my mom's mother) last year to alzheimers, and my mom worries she will have it to.
All we can do it spend time with our loved ones and show them how much they mean to us. Singing sounds like a great idea I hope your trip is filled with joy, inspite of the sad circumstances.
Me 34 DH 36 Married since July 2010 MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
TTC #1 since June 2015 Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved. Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature 5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP! May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019 July 2019 - FET - BFN Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
@funkykey I'm sorry you are going through that. I feel you. We also had to have the surgery before ivf and it was frustrated to prolong things... @helloworld9 I completely agree with feeling like a shell of your former self. It completely sucks. I feel like I have a lot to be thankful for but I also don't ever feel like myself that much anymore. Thankfully my hubs is pretty great and we don't fight too often. Were both pretty laid back and he puts up with me when I don't feel good. Thankful to have this great group of ladies though. Hopefully the next month or couple months will be our months.
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@BusinessWife - my sister is going to pick me up. I mentioned to her that I'd been telling DH that I was getting worried about the polypectomy and that he responded so tersely, like: "Why are you worried? if it goes badly, you'll deal with it. It'll be fine."
She goes: "God, men are such morons!" Which made me laugh. Then she told me she thought I was looking skinny, so that was nice. LOL She might even be better cut out for being supportive if there's bad news than DH!
@Dwmmwd - We've always had a fiery relationship too. If I'm honest, our relationship was probably more fiery before TTC - I was ready to start trying before him, so that added some strain... Regardless, I don't know about you, but I don't always love the fire. I don't know how it happened - some people have these chill relationships and mine is so different. DH and I both have pretty serious perfectionistic streaks though, so that probably doesn't help. In some ways our ambition and high standards drew us together, but it's pretty annoying when a partner is always pushing you to be better - I'm as guilty of it as he is.
I'm sorry about your mom! It is important to get that quality time in, but it can be hard sometimes. Good luck! Can't wait to hear about the test results!! FX!
@helloworld9 - Thank you! For sure our sex life has taken a hit. I think largely, my feelings of hopelessness and despair contribute to that. I don't think you're doing anything wrong though, and I'm sure it's not your lifestyle - IF can make you BSC, it's so awful!!! Ugh!!!
@ReesaAnne16 - It is more unfair! And I am getting more impatient too - I keep asking myself, and asking the universe - "how much longer?!" I found I really went to the dark side around 18 cycles of TTC - which I think was around our 2nd failed IUI or maybe the month I was benched with clomid-caused ovarian cysts. This whole process is b*llsh*t, and I wish none of us had to do it and we just got babies right away.
I guess today I am not feeling as good as the day we got our blastocyst results... Ugh, ladies! Thank you for all the support! I don't know how I'd get through this without this board!
@BusinessWife -Hope lunch was enjoyable with your SIL. This will make you feel good they say that the eggs you get are 3 months old or something like that. So all the vitamins and everything you have been doing has been getting your golden eggs all ready so its ok if you're slacking a lil. Its very hard to keep the same routine going as we never know when the real end is in sight...speaking of which...I need to go take my vitamins too
@sammymommy89 - welcome and sorry you find yourself here. IF has so many struggles in them. I'm sorry you may have to look to a surrogate and like others have mentioned there are some separate threads that others are looking into that process as well. I sometimes wonder if I might have to go down that path myself as my (TW) MC was unexplained and I wonder if it was my bodies fault. I know its scary but you'll find lots of comfort and knowledge on these boards.
Dwmmwd my heart goes out to you and pray you have many more days of good memorys with your mom, thats just so hard! As for medicated or non medicated I'm still waiting to get there but I'm doing a medicated cycle. I will say I have heard of people that have done a non medicated cycle that got twins one naturally and then the one that transferred took...which I think it pretty magical!!
allycheer00 HA!! I like to make believe I know whats good for me! I think my RE can't wait to get me pregnant again not to have to deal with me!
funkykey Best of luck for tomorrow!! Hoping only good news from here on in!! I know you're being a great wife saying DH could go w/o you to the wedding but were you hoping he would want to stay home or were you really ok with him going? i find at times I say I'm ok with something as I hope OH will realize on his own what he should be doing. I have to say that my sister has really been my rock through all of this not OH. He travels so much with work shes the one i'm calling for my trigger and was with me through my (TW) MC in the hospital, OH first got to the hospital in the morning. I dont think men really like to deal with all that comes with this process. BUT I have to say that many of you sound like you have some great men behind you as well. I actually hate that $$ plays such a factor in IF too and hate that we have to sacrifice things because of it. SO many on here talk about vacations and I haven't been on one with OH since I started this process...its just frustrating.
AFM: Officially on to cycel #8 - I took my first day of shots to find out that I'm missing the 27 guage needle for my menupar, WTH!! Like I haven't done this enough that I first realize now ugh!! I used the bigger ones and it was not cute! I didn't put it in all the way but still! I thought the smaller needles were with the regular syringes...I hate having to call the dr with this nonsense. Here's a good laugh for you all...I had to use a different car to go for monitoring this morning. First I couldn't find the remote to get into the car, then when I found it I thought it was broken so I was using the actual key to get into the car AND i was basically trying to break into someones car...no wonder the remote wasn't working. Talking about being half asleep.
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@helloworld9 thank you so much for the support! I am excited and frightened at the same time. I'm planning to go abroad for the procedures and it makes me even more nervous...
@funkykey Oh, thanks! I didn't know about it. I'm a new one here and it was hard to go dip in the forum. Thank you for letting me know and GL to you
@funkykeyugh... i feel you! so sorry you are so stressed! IVF can drive you mad! I am sure your polypectomy will go well... its much less invasive than say myomectomies (ive had 2) and there shouldnt be a lot of pain. The week after my first IVF when we found out all of my embies were abnormal we were meant to go to Austria to visit my DH's fam. I was devastated and could not travel. I told DH to go on anyway and he did. Of course after he left, while i was at my lowest i had been in a long time, i resented him for going even though i told him to! @Dwmmwd So so sorry about your mom... ive seen this disease close up (my grandmother and an aunt who developed it young) and it is in no way a vaca....Yes its so important to get the time you can when they know you...even when they dont! There was a time when my grandmother thought she was a little girl and i was visiting her mom... She told me so many stories and i almost felt like i got to see who she was as a girl. Its heartbreaking but, i cant explain it better than to say we found a way to value the time we had with her whatever she was like. That said, going through IVF and also working though this must be so heavy at times... sending you hugs. We are here for you! @ReesaAnne16 IF is one of the most unfair things ive experienced @Hopeful_mom OMG Just picturing you breaking into someones car! You have inspired me to go home and check my needles! I def went over my meds with a fine tooth comb and looked at the packs of syringes, but i didnt really check for the two needle lengths that i can recall (i mean i might have, cant remember)! I def have some leftover needles and some lupron needles which I guess could be appropriated in a pinch!
@Hopeful_mom thank you! The great thing about this place is that we all share, support each other and together we're stronger! I'm a new one here and haven't figured out all the boards. Thanks for a hint I hope you'll get pregnant by yourself and won't have to do surrogacy...It is complicated. I'll probably have to go to another country where it's more developed. Hope you avoid these things! I wish you all successful treatment and bright days
Re: Anyone doing IVF in July/August?
@helloworld9 4 is a wonderful number! Congratulations!! Your results fall right in line with the statistic that I was told. 1/3 of embryos would test PGS abnormal.
Me:35 DH:37
Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN
April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN
May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
July 2017- IVF #1-Microdose Lupron protocol, Gonal-F, Menopur, HCG trigger- 12 mature eggs, 9 fertilized, 4 frozen- 2 PGS normal!!
August 2017- FET #1
Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries
(2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
(4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal!
FET on 7/10/17
Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:(
(8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
AFM we went and signed the consent for FET this morning and everything just got very real. Anxiety!! To think we could be pregnant in less than 3 weeks I think just hit me. Ahhhhhh.
@angelbea - welcome! Glad you found us, and sorry for your struggles. Best of luck to you this next ER! There are a few women here in a similar boat to you - @Hopeful_mom may have some advice!
@Holls214 - great news! OMG, I really hope you are pregnant in less than 3 weeks!!!!
ETA because there was more activity in the time it took me to send the above:
@Holls214 I think you're probably right about the pap smear. I did ask Dr. Google--the most reliable source, obviously--and didn't really find anything reputable about spotting while stimming, but definitely spotting after pap smear.
Congratulations on signing the form! Ahhhhh that is so exciting and mind boggling to think you could finally be KU in just a few short weeks. Phew!
@angelbea Hi, welcome... I am likely stimming in August and could end up retrieving in Sept. We have a few more ladies on a similar schedule as well so def feel free to join in here!
@Holls214 Those consents make it real... Its always so awkward to talk about: what do you want to do with the embies if one of you passes..like eeek! But its that important step to get done!
@babbatty Great follie count, girl! I hate Dr Google! It always tells me I have cancer but I use it anyways.
@angelbea Sorry you're here and that you have to deal with an RE that you're not 100% on
This is a great place for info. Maybe you can tell your doc a few things. I did!
@Hols214 You're almost there!! I can only imagine the anxiety. Mine was high with just retrieval. Sure it will be worse with the FET.
Me:35 DH:37
Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN
April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN
May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
July 2017- IVF #1-Microdose Lupron protocol, Gonal-F, Menopur, HCG trigger- 12 mature eggs, 9 fertilized, 4 frozen- 2 PGS normal!!
August 2017- FET #1
@helloworld9 congrats on those, that must be a giant relief to make it to that step! I'm excited for you!
@baker+RN I'm so sorry to read your news. There are no words sometimes, but I'm thankful you have a plan to keep going forward.
@angelbea I so much related to your post. Timing is my biggest hurdle too, and I'm stimming later this month to try for a third time, so I get it. The support here is great so welcome! As much as nobody here wants to be "here," thank God for "here" because the group has been essential in helping me cope, learn, and persevere.
I took a risk this cycle, and decided to order my Gonal-F, Ovidrel, and Cetrotide from europe (Turkey actually) and it worked great! Overall I paid about half (saved us about $1000) of what it would have cost from the pharmacy my clinic had me order from last cycle.
I was a little worried, as some companies require you to wire money (?!?!) But I found one that accepted credit card for 5% surcharge and decided it was worth it for the extra peace of mind.
Anyway, just thought I would mention it, I had a hard time finding anyone who had done it before to give me feedback.
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
@Bababatty - wow that a great follie count glad things are cooking nicely let them continue!! Just think how close you're getting!!! I actually thought i had an empty bottle of menupar too...I now double check the bottles to make sure they have the powder, its crazy how super fast it dissolves! Remind me are you doing Fresh or FET?
funkykey you are funny my friend, i have been miss @angelbea #1 cheerleader in the July FET board. I originally thought I was transferring last month, so i've been in the trenches with her...and now hope to continue on her journey to motherhood!! Glad you're joining us here, I know you're struggle still so much but you'll be excited to get the show on the road to bank these normies!
@Holls214 - yay consent! I kind of hate that we have to sign one every single time. Like hello OH had to bring his part in himself to this party you think he's not down for the next part? Even all the ER for me, its a reminder each time that HERE WE GO AGAIN ugh!!! Excited this is another hurdle down!! I think I have my FET papers in my bag...wonder if i can sign my IVF and FET at the same time
ReesaAnne16 good note on the meds - thanks!
Momifbysea glad you will be starting soon!!
Bababatty i love that your DH takes such a role and wants to be so involved. I just keep thinking because my OH is already a dad he thinks just showing up with his goods is his part. This process is hard that I try not to concentrate on it. He's always away with work anyway that I'm always on shot duty, I have to rely on my sister to help with the trigger. Some people can do it on there own but that one hurts if I don't stretch out enough.
allycheer00 the "stat" you mention is that based on age? All of my cycles have been so different! I'm thrilled to even get one after one cycle gave me none. I feel at times its such a crap shoot.
AFM: AF has arrived woohoo! Will be going for bw and us in the am so we shall see if the stemming party will begin. I played RE and took my estrogen patch of this morning as well. In keeping with the cycles i got my normies i didn't do too much priming so i wanted to stick to that. My RE was laughing that I'm just doing my own thing...can't blame a girl for trying. I'm the one over analyzing my cycles not her and she was fine with it as my clinic has you usually take it off one you start stemming anyway.
On a Netflix tip, I think some of you mentioned that friends of College show...it really is an odd show. I'm glad to see IVF be a story line however I don't think they needed to add her DH having an affair be part of the story line. I was laughing wanting to know what the follie count was and how many blasts she got etc... It's such a ridiculous show but yet I was still watching it.
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
I'll have my IVF next month. Any advice to the new one here? I'm thinking to find a surrogacy mother to carry a baby for me as I have some health issues. It's a hard choice, I don't want to risk, but still, it feels weird if someone else gives birth to my child...
<span>That's all. </span><img alt="" src="https://forums.thebump.com/resources/emoji/confused.png" height="20"><span> Thanks for ketting me get that ofd my chest. About to go meet SIL for lunch, so maybe that will help.</span>
Hoping your lunch helps. I think I need a vacation. Haven't taken one since last August. Sending lots of happy thoughts to you!
Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries
(2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
(4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal!
FET on 7/10/17
Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:(
(8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
Both married for the first time in our 40s; went straight to IVF after multiple fibroid surgeries
(2/17) ER: #1: agonist/antagonist protocol: 19 eggs; 8 mature; 13 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
(4/17) ER: #2: same protocol but stimmed an extra 2 days: 16 eggs; 10 mature (5 more matured in lab); 13 fertilized; 2 6-day blasts (5AA & 6BA) & 2 7-day blasts (6BA & 5BB): only 1 Day 6 6BA tested normal!
FET on 7/10/17
Beta on 7/21/17: Negative:(
(8/17) ER #3: 9 eggs; 6 mature; 3 fertilized; 1 7-day blast (6BA = abnormal/non-viable)
Developed severe complications (abdominal bleeding) following egg retrieval which required hospitalization, transfusion & emergency surgery. Done with IVF.
Exercise I stopped it completely in February after reading a study that said that women that lift heavy have a higher infertility rate. I used to do heavy weight lifting and now I only do rolling hills on the treadmill and walk the dog. My belly grew a little, my weight went down (lost muscle), my bodyfat went up to 23% but I would have gotten here anyway if I would have been pregnant.
And for supplements I have medisafe ( a phone app) that reminds me to take them. And I feel bad if I don't click that button that I took them (I think I might be a little OCD ...)
IVF #1 -2016 March, antagonist, 5 eggs, 2 fertilized, 3DT - 8 cell and 6 cell no frag, chemical pregnancy
IVF #2 - 2016 June, micro dose lupron, 3 eggs, 1 fertilized, 3DT 6 cell, BFN
IVF #3 - 2016 November, estrogen priming + antagonist, 9 follicles, 3 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #4 - 2017 March, testosterone priming + micro dose lupron, 2 eggs, none fertilized
IVF #5 - 2017 May, A/ACP protocol, 4 follicles out of 7 seemed to get to required size, ovulated before retrieval, converted into IUI - BFN
IVF #6 - 2017 July, A/ACP protocol, 3 follicles one stopped growing, LH rising, converted to IUI - BFN
IVF #7 - 2017 September, antagonist, 5 follicles, 6 eggs, 3 immature, 3 injected, 1 fertilized, stopped growing day 3
Before we started treatments, like last fall, I was desperate to do anything. I went to yoga every day for a month, and more besides. I cut carbs, I did all sorts of stuff. I looked amazing, but I didn't get pregnant. I didn't get pregnant when we went on vacation, I didn't get pregnant before we had financial stress, and I didn't get pregnant after we'd cleared it. During our IUIs, I did all sorts of stuff too. None of it made a difference.
Obviously I can understand why someone would get really fastidious about taking certain supplements or making lifestyle changes - this is a really hard journey, and if I knew something would help, I'd do it in a heartbeat! If we'd had fewer embryos, we would have made some big changes too.
But really, I think the most important thing is your sanity and being gentle and kind to yourself - you need to have the energy to keep going, and if pushing yourself to diet extremes burns you out, it's not worth it...
@sammymommy89 - welcome, sorry for your struggles. I think there are some separate surrogacy boards that might have more information on that for you.
Me:35 DH:37
Married 09/2013
*TW* TTC #2 since June 2016 *END TW*
Endometriosis
March 2017- IUI#1- Clomid - BFN
April 2017 - IUI #2 - Clomid, Ovidrel - BFN
May 2017 - IUI #3 - Clomid- cancelled cycle
July 2017- IVF #1-Microdose Lupron protocol, Gonal-F, Menopur, HCG trigger- 12 mature eggs, 9 fertilized, 4 frozen- 2 PGS normal!!
August 2017- FET #1
Yup, I have little glass bowls that I dump my doses into.... in fact I feel like I eat to take supps...
Long story short, I'm mentally preparing myself for tomorrow's polypectomy, and I'm starting to worry. Not that the procedure will go well, but that it won't - and that I'll be stuck waiting even longer for the first FET. Every month at some point, I feel like I'm at my wits end - like I can't do this much longer, it's so mentally taxing. I'm so happy to have our embryos, but I'm also so so tired that I'm still waiting and scheduling things and taking time off work, and still not pregnant.
Anyway, my H is going to be out of town - he's leaving about an hour before the polypectomy - because he's going to a wedding in his hometown. We'd arranged this months before, and we knew he was just going to go (so we could save $ since we have all this IVF debt), and I want him to go and have fun with his friends... When the polypectomy came up, even though he offered to stay home, I was like: "No, go - go and have fun! I can do this one!"
So last night I start worrying, and I'm feeling tired, just of all of it, and DH tells me to "relax", and I was just so mad. Of course I want to relax, I'm trying to relax, but I've had this IF albatross around my neck for months. He gets to relax on his fun weekend, I get to stay here and get pumped full of saline through yet another vaginal probe.
Anyway, feeling very unappreciated today.
@BusinessWife im sure anything youre doing is fine. I have def gotten pretty lazy about the prenatals and drank coffee and wine while stimming. I didnt even know i was supposed to cut those out. Oh well.
Afm nothing to report. Waiting for my genetics co to let me know they received my biopsys and to charge me. I feel like every day waiting is less of a chance that we can transfer next month. Do any of you have opinions on medicated vs unmadicated transfers?
In chicago to see my parents. My mom has alzheimers so no not a vacation. But its important to get time with her while she's lucid. Its been a rought year and a half in my family. Its actually my dad who is the frustrating one, but you dont get to pick your family... I brought my uke bc i thought my mom might enjoy singing some songs. So we'll see.
BFP Nov 2015, PPROM Feb 2016
ER #1 May 2017, 15 retrieved, 10 fertilized, 3 day 5.
ER#2 July 2017, 22 retrieved, 13 fertilized, 6 day 5/6
9 embryos tested for pgs and pgd.
FET #1 9.29.17- 1 embryo-BFN
FET#2 12.19.17- I embryo-BFP 1/1/18! Happy New Year to me! EDD 9/6/18
Baby boy born 9.11.18- the love of my life!
Unexplained infertility
TTC #1 since 2015
11/2015 - BFP! 12/2015 - MC
IVF #1 July 2017 freeze all (20 eggs, 15 mature, 10 fert, 6 blasts, 4 PGS normal)
FET #1 TBD Surprise BFP 9/2017 while waiting for FET... hoping for the best!
You'd think that this process would have made me more patient, but I think it's made me even more impatient.
It's OK to feel upset that your DH is going to a social event while you're stuck at another doctor's visit; it really is unfair! But it's not your DH's fault either
I hope you can find some way to treat yourself while he's gone as a reward for putting up with all this crap. Icecream? Girlfriend's over for a movie night?
I'll be praying your procedure goes smoothly tomorrow
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
I lost my grandmother (my mom's mother) last year to alzheimers, and my mom worries she will have it to.
All we can do it spend time with our loved ones and show them how much they mean to us. Singing sounds like a great idea
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
@helloworld9 I completely agree with feeling like a shell of your former self. It completely sucks. I feel like I have a lot to be thankful for but I also don't ever feel like myself that much anymore. Thankfully my hubs is pretty great and we don't fight too often. Were both pretty laid back and he puts up with me when I don't feel good.
Thankful to have this great group of ladies though. Hopefully the next month or couple months will be our months.
She goes: "God, men are such morons!" Which made me laugh. Then she told me she thought I was looking skinny, so that was nice. LOL
@Dwmmwd - We've always had a fiery relationship too. If I'm honest, our relationship was probably more fiery before TTC - I was ready to start trying before him, so that added some strain... Regardless, I don't know about you, but I don't always love the fire. I don't know how it happened - some people have these chill relationships and mine is so different. DH and I both have pretty serious perfectionistic streaks though, so that probably doesn't help. In some ways our ambition and high standards drew us together, but it's pretty annoying when a partner is always pushing you to be better - I'm as guilty of it as he is.
I'm sorry about your mom! It is important to get that quality time in, but it can be hard sometimes. Good luck! Can't wait to hear about the test results!! FX!
@helloworld9 - Thank you! For sure our sex life has taken a hit. I think largely, my feelings of hopelessness and despair contribute to that. I don't think you're doing anything wrong though, and I'm sure it's not your lifestyle - IF can make you BSC, it's so awful!!! Ugh!!!
@ReesaAnne16 - It is more unfair! And I am getting more impatient too - I keep asking myself, and asking the universe - "how much longer?!" I found I really went to the dark side around 18 cycles of TTC - which I think was around our 2nd failed IUI or maybe the month I was benched with clomid-caused ovarian cysts. This whole process is b*llsh*t, and I wish none of us had to do it and we just got babies right away.
I guess today I am not feeling as good as the day we got our blastocyst results... Ugh, ladies! Thank you for all the support! I don't know how I'd get through this without this board!
@sammymommy89 - welcome and sorry you find yourself here. IF has so many struggles in them. I'm sorry you may have to look to a surrogate and like others have mentioned there are some separate threads that others are looking into that process as well. I sometimes wonder if I might have to go down that path myself as my (TW) MC was unexplained and I wonder if it was my bodies fault. I know its scary but you'll find lots of comfort and knowledge on these boards.
Dwmmwd my heart goes out to you and pray you have many more days of good memorys with your mom, thats just so hard! As for medicated or non medicated I'm still waiting to get there but I'm doing a medicated cycle. I will say I have heard of people that have done a non medicated cycle that got twins
allycheer00 HA!! I like to make believe I know whats good for me! I think my RE can't wait to get me pregnant again not to have to deal with me!
funkykey Best of luck for tomorrow!! Hoping only good news from here on in!! I know you're being a great wife saying DH could go w/o you to the wedding but were you hoping he would want to stay home or were you really ok with him going? i find at times I say I'm ok with something as I hope OH will realize on his own what he should be doing. I have to say that my sister has really been my rock through all of this not OH. He travels so much with work shes the one i'm calling for my trigger and was with me through my (TW) MC in the hospital, OH first got to the hospital in the morning. I dont think men really like to deal with all that comes with this process. BUT I have to say that many of you sound like you have some great men behind you as well. I actually hate that $$ plays such a factor in IF too and hate that we have to sacrifice things because of it. SO many on here talk about vacations and I haven't been on one with OH since I started this process...its just frustrating.
AFM: Officially on to cycel #8 - I took my first day of shots to find out that I'm missing the 27 guage needle for my menupar, WTH!! Like I haven't done this enough that I first realize now ugh!! I used the bigger ones and it was not cute! I didn't put it in all the way but still! I thought the smaller needles were with the regular syringes...I hate having to call the dr with this nonsense.
Here's a good laugh for you all...I had to use a different car to go for monitoring this morning. First I couldn't find the remote to get into the car, then when I found it I thought it was broken so I was using the actual key to get into the car AND i was basically trying to break into someones car...no wonder the remote wasn't working. Talking about being half asleep.
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
@funkykey Oh, thanks! I didn't know about it. I'm a new one here and it was hard to go dip in the forum. Thank you for letting me know and GL to you
@Dwmmwd So so sorry about your mom... ive seen this disease close up (my grandmother and an aunt who developed it young) and it is in no way a vaca....Yes its so important to get the time you can when they know you...even when they dont! There was a time when my grandmother thought she was a little girl and i was visiting her mom... She told me so many stories and i almost felt like i got to see who she was as a girl. Its heartbreaking but, i cant explain it better than to say we found a way to value the time we had with her whatever she was like. That said, going through IVF and also working though this must be so heavy at times... sending you hugs. We are here for you!
@ReesaAnne16 IF is one of the most unfair things ive experienced
@Hopeful_mom OMG Just picturing you breaking into someones car! You have inspired me to go home and check my needles! I def went over my meds with a fine tooth comb and looked at the packs of syringes, but i didnt really check for the two needle lengths that i can recall (i mean i might have, cant remember)!
I def have some leftover needles and some lupron needles which I guess could be appropriated in a pinch!
I hope you'll get pregnant by yourself and won't have to do surrogacy...It is complicated. I'll probably have to go to another country where it's more developed. Hope you avoid these things!
I wish you all successful treatment and bright days