I've gotten the ridiculous comments plus the random bump touching has started. I had three unwanted bump touches yesterday, my brothers girlfriends mother that I just met, a random woman that I vaguely know at church, and a stranger at the grocery store. Seriously what is wrong with these people.
I've also been getting into nesting mode. I got back all the baby clothes I had given to my nephew after ds outgrew and am in the process of sorting and washing. My first was a preemie so I've especially been having moments where I freak out thinking if this baby comes when he did, how little time I have left. I go back and forth between wanting to get stuff done and wanting to sleep as much as I possibly can In the meantime.
@EmeraldNC Please Please be a tattle tale. This is a situation where it absolutely needs to be said. This makes me so mad for those kids. That teacher should be ashamed. I don't care if it is word of mouth, it's unacceptable.
I would aslo mention during the meeting this is out of left field. You had no idea there were concerns. The other teacher should be working WITH you and keeping communications open. It should not come to a principle meeting for the first sign of concern. How is this professional or helping anyone?
As for the rage, a lot harder said than done, but if you remain cool, she will show her true colors and most likely come off looking like the unprofessional one. I am not sure how someone can act like that and it not come out during this meeting.
@ellie111227 That is a good point... However, she was YELLING in the hallway, so A LOT of people heard. A total of 4 co-workers have come up to me personally today to tell me what they heard... all are saying the same thing. I did promise my co-workers that I would not bring their names into it, because like i said.... this was a well liked and respected teacher. But, I am pretty confident with the fact that SO many people heard it 1. It's the truth. and 2. I won't be put in a position to have to out anyone specifically.
Also, that is a good point about maybe she already knows and this is what this meeting is about?
PP, this teacher has expressed concerns to me before, and I have gone above and beyond to adapt the work SHE gives my students to help make them successful in the regular education classroom, even though it is technically HER job to do that. But, she has NEVER used this type of language and I've never seen this type of demeanor from her.
I emailed my principal and asked her if she would meet with me about 10-15 minutes to discuss an urgent matter. I can't let this slide.
@EmeraldNC that is just awful. Is the teacher she was saying these things to unwilling to speak to the principal or it just would carry more weight coming from you as well? Glad you are saying something regardless.
@EmeraldNC It sounds like you have a good plan. I think you are right that if multiple people heard her yelling and came to you, you can report it without those issues even though you weren't physically present. It's great that your students have a teacher who is willing to go to bat for them, especially since you work with a vulnerable population. Let us know how it goes!
@wifeinraleigh28 That is so weird because I had a very similar dream the other night! I dreamed that I woke up in the hospital after the baby was born and I couldn't remember labor at all. Then the doctor told me that it was totally normal and I would remember eventually. WTF?
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So, I met with my principal.... and even though she seemed shocked that this teacher would say those things, at the end of the meeting she said "Well, she was upset and we know she'll be alright." Umm... so you aren't going to deal with one of your teachers making these type of comments OUT LOUD where ANYONE could have heard?? Possibly a child still in the building after school, a parent, etc?! I am SO disappointed. My principal is retiring in June.. so I get that she is just trying to ride out her time in peace... but COME ON.
@emeraldnc this makes me sad.... as someone whose daughter is probably going to have some special needs it just breaks my heart to think there are teachers out there who behave this way. I'm glad that you spoke with your principal about it. Perhaps you could write yourself a short outline of what happened with dates and who you spoke to and just keep it as a record for yourself so that if this becomes an issue down the road you've got some documentation about previous issues with this teacher and her ranting's about special needs children.
@stankonia2014 I have my regular midwife appointment on the 15th and then begin stress testing and weekly ultrasounds on the 10th of April. So for now nothing major going on. My bleeding did stop though so I'm happy about that.
@EmeraldNC I'm sorry your principal didn't have your students' back more around this issue. I hope the meeting you have later with this teacher goes better and that news of her tirade doesn't get back around to the students. If the meeting later doesn't have a better resolution would you be comfortable addressing the teacher directly at some point?
+1 on the how in the hell is time going so quickly train! I was laying in bed last night thinking of all the things we still need to get for LO before he/she makes their arrival. You think you have all this time...
@meilay I actually was thinking about this earlier... I think I am going to have to talk to this teacher regardless. I am going to wait until after our meeting with the principal. But, I know this teacher pretty well, and like I said really liked her. I don't know that I can not say anything to her about my concerns of what she said. Not only am I special education teacher, but I have 2 brothers with significant needs/disabilities. So, not only is this an issue for me professionally, it hits me personally as well.
@EmeraldNC I think it's great that you'll be advocating for yourself and your students. Hopefully she is still worthy of your respect and handles the conversation well. If not, at least you now know her true colors.
Add me to the where is the time going group! Someone asked when I was due yesterday and then said oh that's only 3 months from today! And I was in shock. It's crept up on me.
I really need to start washing and organizing things. I am also planning on trying to potty train DS before but I'm not worried if he doesn't seem into it.
I just realized daylight savings starts this weekend. Time to try to remember how we move DD's bedtime without wreaking havoc....
wait...I very seriously had no idea this was happening already until just now. Usually we just suck it up and deal with DD being insane on Sunday, and then since she's back on her normal daycare routine Monday it works itself out. at least that's what worked when we fell back. Not sure how that will translate to springing forward since she was 8 months old the last time that happened.
Maybe Sunday we'll move all meals/naps later by 30 minutes and hope that daycare handles the other 30 minutes on Monday. Or we'll just expect a crazy week. I can guarantee you DH won't wake her up before she gets up on her own bc he sleeps until she wakes up in the morning...so if she's willing to sleep until 7:30 instead of 6:30 he will take advantage of it. Meanwhile, when my alarm goes off at 5am I will be wanting to punch him in the face. Standard operating procedure.
I just realized daylight savings starts this weekend. Time to try to remember how we move DD's bedtime without wreaking havoc....
When daylight savings time ended in November, we just started adjusting DS' schedule on Saturday and he was pretty well adjusted by Sunday night. He was only 6 1/2 months so we just moved literally everything forward an hour - bottles, meals, naps, bedtime. We slowly moved a few things back a little in the following weeks so that lunch and dinner weren't super late, but it worked great!
This time, I'm not working, so I'm strongly considering just letting his bedtime and wake up time naturally be later since I was planning to move them soon anyway. He goes to bed at 7 and gets up at 6, and 7:30-6:30 would be even better!
I just realized daylight savings starts this weekend. Time to try to remember how we move DD's bedtime without wreaking havoc....
Good thing I live in Texas where we just introduced a bill to end daylight savings time in our state. True story. *eyeroll* apparently Texans have nothing better to do.
@EmeraldNC sorry your having to deal with that sucky situation. Just reading about it made me so sad. I used to nanny a little girl with Down syndrome and that created a real soft spot it my heart for special needs kids. I dont understand how someone can be so mean to kids. Dh is dyslexic too and always says he felt dumb in school for being different, that's one of the reasons we homeschool because I can't imagine my kids having to deal with people thinking they are less for being different. Thank you so much for sticking up for your students.
And yes count me in on the comments. They moved my edd back a few days so Micah might possibly be a July baby and yet I look like the blueberry girl from willy wonka already. That's what happens when your 5'1 and growing a human and 3 fibroids. Lol I have found it entertaining to tell people I'm due in July and watch their eyeballs fall out of their heads. Lol
@delujm0@ladylolly89 In some ways, it's gotten harder as DD has gotten older - she is starting to learn to read a clock and notices when it's light or dark outside. So we may need to actually try to explain this weird clock change concept or risk Monday morning confusion about why it's so dark! Sadly, we can't just let her sleep later - it'll just be a few rough days! (I'll be starting a Monday B'fest next week!)
@delujm0@ladylolly89 In some ways, it's gotten harder as DD has gotten older - she is starting to learn to read a clock and notices when it's light or dark outside. So we may need to actually try to explain this weird clock change concept or risk Monday morning confusion about why it's so dark! Sadly, we can't just let her sleep later - it'll just be a few rough days! (I'll be starting a Monday B'fest next week!)
I was wondering how old your DD was! I agree it is much easier for a baby or very small child (in my limited experience!).
@delujm0@ladylolly89 In some ways, it's gotten harder as DD has gotten older - she is starting to learn to read a clock and notices when it's light or dark outside. So we may need to actually try to explain this weird clock change concept or risk Monday morning confusion about why it's so dark! Sadly, we can't just let her sleep later - it'll just be a few rough days! (I'll be starting a Monday B'fest next week!)
I was wondering how old your DD was! I agree it is much easier for a baby or very small child (in my limited experience!).
She just turned 3 and is quite the inquisitive little troublemaker!
I'm so jealous of all of you who are working on nurseries. We are moving at the end of the month and will be temporarily living with my in-laws, and having baby in the room with us. So even when I move it will only be a small "nursery area", and until we move, I can't even do anything.
In the "good news" area, I've been getting a better handle on the insane acid reflux/heartburn, partially because I've discovered that dairy helps a lot. I've been having my milk/protein powder shake just before bed which has the double duty of keeping me from waking up in the middle of the night due to hunger or due to heartburn!
I'm sorry @EmeraldNC about this teacher and her poor conduct- upset or not, it's clearly how she feels. Hopefully no other students heard her. I also have no tolerance for people using "retarded" in reference to special needs kids or anything else for that matter. Hopefully the end result of a conversation with her will be positive and allow her to see the error of her actions.
Sidenote: I'm also on the "will get things done after my DD's birthday" at the end of this month. I'll be 30 weeks by then and will probably start dedicating more time and creativity toward getting everything ready for the new baby. Time flew extremely quickly!
@erinh84 My parents and in-laws live in AZ and I also lived there for 2 years. They do not do daylight savings either. It's nice to not have to think about it and remember to change all the clocks! I
@erinh84 My parents and in-laws live in AZ and I also lived there for 2 years. They do not do daylight savings either. It's nice to not have to think about it and remember to change all the clocks! I
Ah interesting. I honestly had no idea that was even a thing. In all honesty I haven't researched it much, I just assumed it was another thing for us Texans to complain about that's not super important.
eta: +1 on not looking forward to getting DS used to the time change.
I had the realization that things are coming up quickly this weekend too. I am taking my maternity leave at the beginning of the new school year, but the principal said, if she finds someone ahead, I can just go over the plans with them in detail in May. I started working like a maniac on my maternity leave plans this weekend. I have a lot of students with special needs in my class next year so I want a decent amount of consistency for what my classroom will be like when I return in October. How is May only 2 months away??
I am having so many BHs today. I've even drank a ton of water so I don't get where they're coming from, but I'm getting a little tired of them. I know I wasn't getting them this early last time around.
@EmeraldNC it sounds like this teacher says some awful things, and depending on the circumstances could be appropriate to mention to the principal, but I want to offer maybe another side. We (teachers) all know that it can be a very stressful job. Depending on when/where (ie- who was present and heard her), could it have been a venting session where she thought she could trust the person she was talking to? I agree, it sounds like she could have handled it better, but maybe she had a really bad day/week as was venting.
Venting has its place, and then you have to try to fix the problem and help the kids, which it sounds like maybe she is trying to do by asking for a meeting with you to adjust the plan for the kids she is having a hard time with. I would say that if she said these things in front of just teachers, maybe you could tell her how you think what she said was inappropriate, but maybe not mention it to the principal if she is now trying to take steps to actually help the kids.
ETA: I only read the first page before responding, so if she was literally yelling in the hallway, she had no idea who could have been around a corner to hear her, so it's definitely unprofessional.
I took my son on a "date" to Chick-fil-a today. It was so nice I have no idea why I've never done this before. Then I bought my pump and got so excited for labor! The lactation center where I bought my pump is at the hospital I'll be delivering in. It's brand new and beautiful and peaceful. I'm so excited!
@ellie111227 That is a good point... However, she was YELLING in the hallway, so A LOT of people heard. A total of 4 co-workers have come up to me personally today to tell me what they heard... all are saying the same thing. I did promise my co-workers that I would not bring their names into it, because like i said.... this was a well liked and respected teacher. But, I am pretty confident with the fact that SO many people heard it 1. It's the truth. and 2. I won't be put in a position to have to out anyone specifically.
Also, that is a good point about maybe she already knows and this is what this meeting is about?
PP, this teacher has expressed concerns to me before, and I have gone above and beyond to adapt the work SHE gives my students to help make them successful in the regular education classroom, even though it is technically HER job to do that. But, she has NEVER used this type of language and I've never seen this type of demeanor from her.
I emailed my principal and asked her if she would meet with me about 10-15 minutes to discuss an urgent matter. I can't let this slide.
I'm a teacher and it's upsetting that someone would act that unprofessional. I'm a regular education teacher and have one inclusion class. There have been years where placement is wrong, but it is an individual basis and not something to scream about. I'm confused what you mean though by her adapting the work that is given. Wouldn't you be the one to do that if needed? I am just wondering because I've had some teachers that rarely did that, but I thought they were supposed to as they were there for those particular students. Honestly, my school has no clear expectations of what is expected of both teachers in ics rooms. Last year we had to go to administration frequently about a teacher, and depending on the teacher it can really make things awkward. Luckily, the one I worked with was so happy go lucky she didn't hold it against me lol. It should be fine.
@jennas312 In our district, writing the IEP and service delivery (working with students 1:1 or small group) falls on the shoulders of the Special Ed Teacher, but modifications and accommodations in the regular education classroom fall on the reg ed teacher. So for testing, assignments, etc it is supposed to be up to reg ed to make sure that happens. However, if I do inclusion, I do it because I'm in there anyway, and that just makes sense to me. If they're students I pull out of class, I will do anything the reg ed teacher asks me to do for them even though it's not my responsibility because that also just makes sense to me.
Hahahahahahaha I have nothing done. Name, registry, nursery, nothing. But I do feel accomplished taking my stool softener I just bought. I'll focus when I come back from babymoon
My mom (wtf is a Mombasa, autocorrect?!) ordered me tamales from a guy at her job who has a family catering business so now I'll have a freezer full of tamales ready for cravings!
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I've also been getting into nesting mode. I got back all the baby clothes I had given to my nephew after ds outgrew and am in the process of sorting and washing. My first was a preemie so I've especially been having moments where I freak out thinking if this baby comes when he did, how little time I have left. I go back and forth between wanting to get stuff done and wanting to sleep as much as I possibly can In the meantime.
I would aslo mention during the meeting this is out of left field. You had no idea there were concerns. The other teacher should be working WITH you and keeping communications open. It should not come to a principle meeting for the first sign of concern. How is this professional or helping anyone?
As for the rage, a lot harder said than done, but if you remain cool, she will show her true colors and most likely come off looking like the unprofessional one. I am not sure how someone can act like that and it not come out during this meeting.
Good luck to you.
Also, that is a good point about maybe she already knows and this is what this meeting is about?
PP, this teacher has expressed concerns to me before, and I have gone above and beyond to adapt the work SHE gives my students to help make them successful in the regular education classroom, even though it is technically HER job to do that. But, she has NEVER used this type of language and I've never seen this type of demeanor from her.
I emailed my principal and asked her if she would meet with me about 10-15 minutes to discuss an urgent matter. I can't let this slide.
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TTC again since July 2014
First IUI 9/26/16: BFP!
EDD 6/19/2017
It's a girl!
Born 6/26/17, 9lb 5oz
BFP #1 6/13 DD 3/14
Mirena 10/14-5/16
BFP #2 9/2/16, CP confirmed 9/8/16
BFP #3 10/10/16 EDD 6/22/17
@emeraldnc this makes me sad.... as someone whose daughter is probably going to have some special needs it just breaks my heart to think there are teachers out there who behave this way. I'm glad that you spoke with your principal about it. Perhaps you could write yourself a short outline of what happened with dates and who you spoke to and just keep it as a record for yourself so that if this becomes an issue down the road you've got some documentation about previous issues with this teacher and her ranting's about special needs children.
@stankonia2014 I have my regular midwife appointment on the 15th and then begin stress testing and weekly ultrasounds on the 10th of April. So for now nothing major going on. My bleeding did stop though so I'm happy about that.
I really need to start washing and organizing things. I am also planning on trying to potty train DS before but I'm not worried if he doesn't seem into it.
I really need to get my booty in gear!!
wait...I very seriously had no idea this was happening already until just now. Usually we just suck it up and deal with DD being insane on Sunday, and then since she's back on her normal daycare routine Monday it works itself out. at least that's what worked when we fell back. Not sure how that will translate to springing forward since she was 8 months old the last time that happened.
Maybe Sunday we'll move all meals/naps later by 30 minutes and hope that daycare handles the other 30 minutes on Monday. Or we'll just expect a crazy week. I can guarantee you DH won't wake her up before she gets up on her own bc he sleeps until she wakes up in the morning...so if she's willing to sleep until 7:30 instead of 6:30 he will take advantage of it. Meanwhile, when my alarm goes off at 5am I will be wanting to punch him in the face. Standard operating procedure.
This time, I'm not working, so I'm strongly considering just letting his bedtime and wake up time naturally be later since I was planning to move them soon anyway. He goes to bed at 7 and gets up at 6, and 7:30-6:30 would be even better!
And yes count me in on the comments. They moved my edd back a few days so Micah might possibly be a July baby and yet I look like the blueberry girl from willy wonka already. That's what happens when your 5'1 and growing a human and 3 fibroids. Lol I have found it entertaining to tell people I'm due in July and watch their eyeballs fall out of their heads. Lol
BFP #1 6/13 DD 3/14
Mirena 10/14-5/16
BFP #2 9/2/16, CP confirmed 9/8/16
BFP #3 10/10/16 EDD 6/22/17
BFP #1 6/13 DD 3/14
Mirena 10/14-5/16
BFP #2 9/2/16, CP confirmed 9/8/16
BFP #3 10/10/16 EDD 6/22/17
In the "good news" area, I've been getting a better handle on the insane acid reflux/heartburn, partially because I've discovered that dairy helps a lot. I've been having my milk/protein powder shake just before bed which has the double duty of keeping me from waking up in the middle of the night due to hunger or due to heartburn!
Sidenote: I'm also on the "will get things done after my DD's birthday" at the end of this month. I'll be 30 weeks by then and will probably start dedicating more time and creativity toward getting everything ready for the new baby. Time flew extremely quickly!
DH: 35 | Me: 29
BFP #1- 07.25.12, EDD: 03.24.13, DD born 03.26.13
Surprised BFP #2- 02.25.15, EDD: 10/29/15 |*m/c 7w4d, D&C 04.02.2015
BFP #3- 01.21.16, EDD: 09.29.26 |*m/c-blighted ovum 2.19.16 8w1d, D&C 03.04.16
BFP #4- 05.24.16, EDD: 02.04.17 |*natural m/c- 07.08.16, 9w1d
BFP #5- 09/25/16, EDD: 06.07.17 GROW, BABY, GROW!
eta: +1 on not looking forward to getting DS used to the time change.
Venting has its place, and then you have to try to fix the problem and help the kids, which it sounds like maybe she is trying to do by asking for a meeting with you to adjust the plan for the kids she is having a hard time with. I would say that if she said these things in front of just teachers, maybe you could tell her how you think what she said was inappropriate, but maybe not mention it to the principal if she is now trying to take steps to actually help the kids.
ETA: I only read the first page before responding, so if she was literally yelling in the hallway, she had no idea who could have been around a corner to hear her, so it's definitely unprofessional.
I'm confused what you mean though by her adapting the work that is given. Wouldn't you be the one to do that if needed? I am just wondering because I've had some teachers that rarely did that, but I thought they were supposed to as they were there for those particular students. Honestly, my school has no clear expectations of what is expected of both teachers in ics rooms.
Last year we had to go to administration frequently about a teacher, and depending on the teacher it can really make things awkward. Luckily, the one I worked with was so happy go lucky she didn't hold it against me lol. It should be fine.
K born 8/31/12
C born 1/11/14
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BFP #4 Sept 2016: Due May 31 2017