May 2017 Moms

FFFC 2.24

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Re: FFFC 2.24

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  • starphish18starphish18 member
    edited February 2017
    I have had sex with my husband only once since we made this baby. 

    But its not like my sex drive is gone, I DIY several times a week. I just don't feel like all the hassle of having sex. 

    Oh and more of a UO but I just had my glucola and I forgot I kind of like it. 
    Ditto to all of this. I've had sex with my H once while pregnant, but my DIY drive is strong. I hadn't had the glucola drink before, but I honestly thought it was kind of good, or at least definitely not bad. Just tasted like extra sugary fruit punch.
  • @bacorrea yes this is my first. Both my SIL have kids and continue to go on trips/go to dinner, as does my other friend who has a 4 year old. 
    And I'm not saying kids don't complicate things but if you can't make the effort to go to dinner or lunch or whatever to chat and catch up then why are we friends? 
  • Jens_HoesJens_Hoes member
    edited February 2017
    My one SIL has a 4 year old, almost 3 year old and a six month old. My other SIL has a six month old as well. 
    I am by no means saying people have to do what I want when I want to spend time with them. But they continue to make plans with me throughout each baby. 
    My one SIL took a trip with me to Las Vegas when her first was 10 months old. My other SIL had a baby who was incredibly difficult for the first 4 months, crying for hours for seemingly no reason. 
    They continue to make efforts to spend time with their childless friends. There are times they can't do certain things bc of their kids and I respect that. But to give a blanket response that they can't do things away from their houses or their schedule is a different thing entirely. 
    Maybe the difference is that I have people I'm close with and they make an effort, as do I, to work around one another's life schedules and issues to see one another. 

    And I love hearing about my friends/SIL children or frankly anything they're doing in their lives because I care about them and what they're doing (and have always regardless of being pregnant/TTC(

    The whole reason this came up for me is that my sister went on a girls trip with her college friends and as they were saying goodbye one said we'll have to do this again, but in 5 years when I'm done having and raising my younger children. I think that is excessive. 
  • @NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot
    that is really all I'm saying, is to make an effort to do something mutually agreed upon together. If people can't make it, it's not like I drop them like it's hot. 
    As for your friends not initially trying to make an effort to include you in dinner, I think that's crappy. 

  • I was the first of my friends to have kids but had seen acquaintances who's lives flipped upside down once they had kids, almost to the point that you couldn't recognize them.  DH and I both felt strongly that when we welcomed a little one into our lives we wanted to include them in what we do, not make a completely new life with them. The first few weeks are HARD and I didn't transition well from working up until I delivered to suddenly just being home all the time and at the beck and call of a newborn. I had some post partum depression and felt yucky. But I realIzed that I had completely let go of my life to just survive at the beginning. Once I started getting back out and doing things I felt so much better. We were going on weekend trips when she was about 6 weeks old and have continued to incorporate her in what we do. Ya it takes some planning and a lot more stuff sometimes but it's important that she be apart of who we were before her and we get to make new memories as a family of 3. 

    i do know that we are lucky that she was flexible and we do have very supportive family and friends nearby. But I think it worked because it was important to us that our new normal included her in what we do and we started early. 
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  • Jens_Hoes said:
    I side eye parents who act like they can't do anything adult related after baby is born. 
    I'm not talking the first few months, and I'm not talking about parents who legit have no support (single parent, no family support, multiple jobs, etc(. It bothers me when people act like a baby with no complications or special needs is a reason to never go to dinner, have a girls night, take a vacation, etc. 
    Maybe that was an UO? Idk 
    Totally with you, even though yes this is an UO not a FFC. I also side-eye couples who can't break in two for the night so that ONE of them can do something adult. Especially if you only have one kid, if I invite you out and you can't get a sitter, ONE of you can come out. Even more so if we're neighbors and I invited you to my house or to the local bar. You and your spouse can take turns! (*actually our neighbors are quite good at this and if anything are the other extreme -- they'll put on a baby monitor and have no problem leaving their kids halfway down the block...personally I would not do that because there's nothing you can do in case of a fire.)

    We live in the suburbs, and last summer our childless city friends invited us to do something midday that was happening that evening. We were lucky enough to find a sitter, and showed up. All they could do was praise us to no end because they said none of their other friends with kids would ever have been able to do this. At the end of the night they were like, "where are your parked?" and we were like, "no we took public transit" (even though this involved two transfers and some walking) and they got all "WOW!" at us again. People with children can be normal! Suburbs people can be competent in the city!

    Oh and FWIW I also give a pass to parents who have kids with special needs. Our son does, though it's not that severe and he'll be fine with a sitter the vast majority of the time. But when you have that added situation it can be harder to find the right care, and is perhaps more taxing on your child to dump them with a sitter, etc.

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  • When you said "adult related things" @Jens_Hoes, I thought you were talking about things like showering in which case, I am a little judgemental. I understand babies are high demand and stressful, especially in the beginning, but I feel like some women are martyrs about it. Putting the baby in the bouncer for ten minutes, even if they're crying, so you can get clean isn't going to have lasting repurcussions on their pysche but will make you feel like a human again.
    Oh so much this. I had a non sleeping colic monster nightmare baby and I still made it a point to shower and change my yoga pants daily. in those first few few weeks/months. Feeling slightly human is so key, not to mention with the lochia party your downstairs really needs some frequent cleaning!

    I am a bit divided on the babies shouldn't change your life thing. That is where the insomniac colic monster did get to me. I was SO unbelievably exhausted for the first six months, like newborn levels of exhausted, that I couldn't function. When I put baby down at 6:30pm I went to bed too just so I could cobble together maybe 5 hours of sleep over the next 12 hours, the idea of going out for dinner would have had me hysterical because I was still so sleep deprived. Now I know that is hardly the norm and we just had a really hard time but it can take a lot longer to regain normalcy than you think. It isn't like I was too afraid to leave my baby (I was dropping him for half days at daycare while I was on maternity leave just so i could sleep!) but between the demands of nursing, recovering from surgery, and sleep deprivation, a social life just wasn't happening for a while. 

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  • My FFFC to sort of build on this - and I'm sorry if this seems offensive - but I think my toddler can be a real asshole. He's so full of energy, and there is no reigning it in. I know he can't help him, and I love him to pieces for all of his craziness. But because of this, I'd honestly rather stay home most of the time, than battle taking him out to dinner with family/friends. Taking him to a restaurant or to someone's house that isn't kid-friendly is exhausting, frustrating and ruins my time with those family/friends!
    I think that's kind of the point that @Jens_Hoes and others are making, though. Because toddlers are assholes, we should sometimes leave them with DH or a sitter and go out. It's the only way for people to really interact with us, because otherwise our attention is divided and it's no fun for anyone.

    I hear you on the waking up early thing and maybe you just get invited to things more than I do so you have to say "no" more often, but I figure I will deal on a day with 4-5 hrs of sleep in order to do something fun and with adults every once in a while if needed. But yes sometimes you have to say no. Having kids does help you filter out the stupid vs. cool social gatherings for sure!

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  • My FFFC to sort of build on this - and I'm sorry if this seems offensive - but I think my toddler can be a real asshole. He's so full of energy, and there is no reigning it in. I know he can't help him, and I love him to pieces for all of his craziness. But because of this, I'd honestly rather stay home most of the time, than battle taking him out to dinner with family/friends. Taking him to a restaurant or to someone's house that isn't kid-friendly is exhausting, frustrating and ruins my time with those family/friends!
    THIS....times 1,000,000. It is freaking EXHAUSTING to take my son anywhere these days. 
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  • No, I get it! And trust me - he stays with sitters!!! I am not that parent...if you want to keep my kid, PLEASE KEEP HIM! LOL. I think I meant more in the instances where it's expected that your child will come with you. Case in point - I grew up in Louisiana. My parents, my sister and my brother and his family are all going back there this weekend to celebrate Mardi Gras, and asked if we wanted to come. I felt bad saying no, but the idea of chasing him every where, dealing with tantrums from being over stimulated, trying to get him to sit still while we all go out to dinner or not completely destroy my grandfather's house when we're over there visiting --- and all of this without being able to have a cocktail myself?!?! No, thank you! I think my family is upset that we're not going, but the idea of it was too much.

    I'm fully in agreement that you do have to make an effort in order to keep up friendships. It does get harder, but if you don't try, you can't expect others to.

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  • @Jens_Hoes I totally agree. I have a two year old and I definitely go out with friends less but there are some people that after they have kids would NEVER go out. Like hanging out without kids is totally off the table. I hate when people bring their young kids with them EVERYWHERE- like baby showers- I feel like it upstages the mom to be and her baby unless they were explicitly invited to bring the kids. But parenting is so personal- the way I see leaving your kid from
    time to time as important for sanity and sense of self other people see it the opposite way and I'd never actually say anything to my friends that are like that. i just side eye. 
  • Here goes:  H and I really don't think having a baby is going to be as difficult as so many people (we're looking at you, family) makes it seem. I am fully prepared to eat my words and will admit if I'm wrong.
    @nda_roxybabe Obviously, every kiddo is different, so we're prepared to be wrong with our littlest human and/or when DS decides he's going to be an asshole toddler.  But in general, we thought the same, and it has been pretty darn true so far.  Certain phases have been a little exhausting until we figure out what works best, but overall, it's just a lot easier than we thought it would be.  Here's hoping it's the same for you guys!
  • @nda_roxybabe I enjoy your FFFC. People do tend to put their own spin on what parenting is like and you just won't know what yours is until you have kids!  To hear
    my mother in law talk it seems like having kids ruins your life- but she is a very negative person in general. 

    Keep that hat positive attitude!
  • oh or the one whose kids don't sleep. Well, I would imagine when you let a 2 year old have cookies for dinner and afterwards and run around crazy and stay up till 10pm even though you've been threatening bath and bed time since 7 that you cant exactly expect them to just go peacefully to bed.
    Maybe if you did dinner, a dessert, some play time, bath, a book, and bed by the time you expect them to go to bed it'd go a lot smoother. Or whatever sort of routine or at least follow through with "threats" of bed.
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