TTGP Board Discussion -LAST CALL before voting!-

izza2

7/8 AM -- Last call for more discussion and topics to be covered before voting opens this weekend!
7/8 PM -- Poll for use of TWs: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9TKKFQ2


It was suggested in another thread by @MrsFL2015 that we start a topic about suggestions for changes on the board as a community in how we handle things, and since I want to see changes happen - here's the thread.

For instance - posting questions in individual threads, QFP, hyper-organization, etc. Anything that is done that anyone feels may need to be changed or discontinued.

This is an open discussion, meaning everyone in the TTGP community is free to participate and share their opinions. No flaming or flame-baiting.

Running list of topics being discussed and any general consensus' made by the community:

*Posting questions/discussions in individual threads vs putting everything in WTO and/or TWW
--Alternative: Weekly TTC questions thread
*QFP new members because they don't/may not know not to DD vs reserving QFP for MUD, questionable posts, rude-ness, et cetera
---Alternative: quoting posts when giving advice/responding, but not leaving it at "QFP" if there's no obvious reason
*Questions/CSs being overlooked in the WTO/TWW threads
---Suggestions: separating R/R and CS/Q sections [already started]; removing GTKY from WTO/TWW; weekly TTC questions thread
*Taking GTKY out of WTO/TWW
---If removed; how to make the WTO/TWW threads stay fun?
*Weekly "randoms" threads (for any random thing that comes to mind) [already started]
*Changing introductions
---Separate threads for each intro; putting them in WTO/TWW; weekly intro thread; unpinning intro thread permanently; monthly intro thread
*Introducing a "rules thread"
*Weekly TTC subject chatter threads
*Asking BGs to unpin certain threads
--Secrets to Surviving the Waiting Game; How To Deal When Everyone is Pregnant; You Know You're TTC When
*Allowing everyone to post BFPs in the weekly thread vs restricting it to "regular posters" (opens it to newer members)
*New poll for what does/does not need a TW [poll created]


Topics that require voting on will have a separate love-tit-voting thread made so everyone can vote on which option they prefer 
Nevermind, I'm a love-tit-whore, but I found Survey Monkey and fell in love, so I'll use that instead (once this discussion is died down and it's agreed that it's voting time).
Once the voting is up and things start being changed, we can do a check-in in a month (or so; another thing to discuss!) to see what everyone's thoughts are on the changes.

virginiaham

Thanks for starting this @izza2.

As I think the spirit of this thread is changes we'd like to see, I'll focus on that.  Honestly I don't want to see more rules and I'm afraid that's what could come out of this.  I think there has been too much emphasis on rules and it's getting in the way of good board culture.  

I think board culture is where the biggest change needs to happen.  How about we aren't slaves to all of the rules and just have a ladies' agreement to be cool, helpful, knowledgeable, snarky and flamey when it's called for, and all of the badass things that drew me to this place in the first place.  Some threads/posts are worthy of our snark and flaming, others we could definitely be more helpful and winsome in our responses.  That doesn't mean rainbows and unicorns and embrace the SS's and but I do think it means sometimes being more welcoming in our redirecting.  But there's no rule for that, it's discernment.  

I honestly kinda take it to heart that we're passing this board on to the next wave of newbies and we can't write the best parts of board culture into rules.

MrsFL2015

@izza2  Thanks so much for initiating this post and handling all the information/questions.

What about taking the GTKY and randoms out of the daily WTO/TWW discussions and making them their own daily threads?   A recent issue that has come up is helpful questions (about OPKs, vitamins, the pill, etc) are getting lost in the WTO/TWW threads because of the number of replies to the posts.  I'm noticing that the replies have a lot to do with commenting on the GTKY/random questions and not TTC related.  I think more people would get their questions answered in those threads with less random discussions.  I love randomness, but not when people can't get their questions answered.  

letyourheartbeyourguide

Thanks for starting this thread, @izza2. I don't believe most questions need to happen within the context of the WTO/TWW threads. I haven't been very active here lately, so obviously my opinion can be taken with a grain of salt with respect to more regular posters. 

After our 2nd loss in January, it took a while before I considered TTC again - at that point, I felt no connection to the WTO/TWW threads. Even still, while this is my 3rd cycle TTCAL, I simply feel disconnected from the daily threads - I don't feel excitement about TTC and, while I genuinely wish everyone luck with TTC, seeing new people cycle in and out with quick BFPs is personally challenging and creates more anxiety/depression for me than it's worth. So, I don't generally read/participate in those threads, even though I'm sure there are questions which I might be able to help answer. 

Certain discussions are obviously best suited for the WTO/TWW threads (chart stalk questions, especially). But there are many topics that would be helpful to discuss as a community. I think it's okay to have separate conversations about OPKs occasionally, or about RE appointments or vasectomy reversal experiences, for example - those are not simply about WTO or TWW and would benefit from the contributions of members regardless of where they are in their cycle (as well as those who might be TTA at the moment). 

I definitely understand the goals of organization, and some consolidation is beneficial - when y'all decided to have one general introductions thread instead of separate intro posts, that was an excellent example and helps streamline things! But this board is very far from cluttered - I think some general discussion threads could be beneficial for members (new and regular) and wouldn't detract from the efforts at organization.

Also, I miss the fun dedicated GTKY posts - I know GTKY questions are included in WTO/TWW, but it was nice having separate threads that are just GTKY.

Everycol0r

virginiaham said:

Thanks for starting this @izza2.

As I think the spirit of this thread is changes we'd like to see, I'll focus on that.  Honestly I don't want to see more rules and I'm afraid that's what could come out of this.  I think there has been too much emphasis on rules and it's getting in the way of good board culture.  

I think board culture is where the biggest change needs to happen.  How about we aren't slaves to all of the rules and just have a ladies' agreement to be cool, helpful, knowledgeable, snarky and flamey when it's called for, and all of the badass things that drew me to this place in the first place.  Some threads/posts are worthy of our snark and flaming, others we could definitely be more helpful and winsome in our responses.  That doesn't mean rainbows and unicorns and embrace the SS's and but I do think it means sometimes being more welcoming in our redirecting.  But there's no rule for that, it's discernment.  

I honestly kinda take it to heart that we're passing this board on to the next wave of newbies and we can't write the best parts of board culture into rules.

Except me. I will apparently be stuck in TTGP forever. God has other plans for me.

virginiaham

MrsFL2015 said:

@izza2  Thanks so much for initiating this post and handling all the information/questions.

What about taking the GTKY and randoms out of the daily WTO/TWW discussions and making them their own daily threads?   A recent issue that has come up is helpful questions (about OPKs, vitamins, the pill, etc) are getting lost in the WTO/TWW threads because of the number of replies to the posts.  I'm noticing that the replies have a lot to do with commenting on the GTKY/random questions and not TTC related.  I think more people would get their questions answered in those threads with less random discussions.  I love randomness, but not when people can't get their questions answered.  

I personally really enjoy having the GTKY questions in there.  Having a eta* legit TTC question get skipped, even when I marked it properly with the *****question in r/r/cs***** has happened to me several times.  I do agree that the WTO & TWW threads (mostly WTO) get really long with back and forth NBR conversations.  I think part of that is that the WTO&TWW are where the majority of our NBR conversations are taking place here.  So, there's nowhere else people are really able to talk.  Except maybe in the randoms thread or a separate GTKY thread.  I'm all for longer NBR conversations happening outside of the daily threads.  I'm all for the randoms thread as well as more GTKY threads, esp now that I'm stepping away from the daily threads for a few months.

We've done random TTC topic threads too, like, why do you love charting?, or temping roundup, etc. that can also end up being informative at the same time as fun and brilliant.

@Everycol0r my lovetit is a, "don't I feel like an ass."

AliciaGoose

I honestly and genuinely love this board. This board is what brought me to the bump. Since being here I've spread my wings a bit and am involved in a lot more than just TTGP, but it holds a special place for me in that it's where I started. And it's where a group of fabulous women made me feel welcome and included. I hate to see things the way they are now and feel that the newbies won't have that same experience I was lucky enough to have. 

I want to start by apologizing to anyone who feels my posts have contributed to the decline of the culture. I have been one of those rule followers and it's because that was the culture of the board when I came in, and at that time, it worked for the majority of us. But I have no problem letting go. I want this to be a place that I find enjoyment out of again, and I think this conversation is incredibly important to make sure that happens for everyone here. 

I think the most important thing we can do is leave the lines of communication about what we like / don't like open. This isn't going to be a perfect transition and people will still make mistakes. I think the best thing we can do is learn through trial and error. Let the random posts happen. Flame the ones that clearly need to be flamed (I feel like these are usually TOU violations). And answer or otherwise kindly point in the right direction any newbies with genuine questions. 

The question of what to do about TWW/WTO is something I don't feel like I can chime in on now since I haven't been a part of those for over two months. But I do think it's really important that people's questions get answered there. Those threads are supposed to be where we talk about all the ins and outs of what we feel about TTC that day, especially if we have a concern! I'm not sure why that isn't happening as much but I would be interested in anyone who has ideas that they think would help foster that environment again. 

Everycol0r

virginiaham said:

MrsFL2015 said:

@izza2  Thanks so much for initiating this post and handling all the information/questions.

What about taking the GTKY and randoms out of the daily WTO/TWW discussions and making them their own daily threads?   A recent issue that has come up is helpful questions (about OPKs, vitamins, the pill, etc) are getting lost in the WTO/TWW threads because of the number of replies to the posts.  I'm noticing that the replies have a lot to do with commenting on the GTKY/random questions and not TTC related.  I think more people would get their questions answered in those threads with less random discussions.  I love randomness, but not when people can't get their questions answered.  

I personally really enjoy having the GTKY questions in there.  Having a eta* legit TTC question get skipped, even when I marked it properly with the *****question in r/r/cs***** has happened to me several times.  I do agree that the WTO & TWW threads (mostly WTO) get really long with back and forth NBR conversations.  I think part of that is that the WTO&TWW are where the majority of our NBR conversations are taking place here.  So, there's nowhere else people are really able to talk.  Except maybe in the randoms thread or a separate GTKY thread.  I'm all for longer NBR conversations happening outside of the daily threads.  I'm all for the randoms thread as well as more GTKY threads, esp now that I'm stepping away from the daily threads for a few months.

We've done random TTC topic threads too, like, why do you love charting?, or temping roundup, etc. that can also end up being informative at the same time as fun and brilliant.

@Everycol0r my lovetit is a, "don't I feel like an ass."

You're not an ass! I can find humor in my situation, and that's cool.

izza2

@virginiaham -- We joined around the same time, and I don't remember there being rules on what was posted where when we first started, either. If a question was asked frequently in a short span of time - that was pointed out and the OP was suggested to use the search option to find the answer, and that was it. I miss being able to see someone's question and realize I don't know the answer, so I can sit back and follow the thread and learn more about TTC or whatever else was asked.

@MrsFL2015 -- I wouldn't mind having a daily or even every-other-day GTKY on the board as a whole. We have the weekend after-dark thread, but other than that we don't really have a "randoms" thread to just share something that's on your mind, but doesn't fit anywhere else. If we had a weekly randoms thread, it would help on that aspect, and having GTKYs separate if they're what's taking over the WTO/TWW threads (because I honestly don't know; I don't participate in them because we're TTA, so I tend not to venture in because most of the time there's a few pages by the time I get on TTGP).

@AliciaGoose - I agree that the threads that I see getting actually flamed usually are the ones that are TOU violations. "Am I pregnant?" "Is this positive?" etc. threads are obviously still ones to unleash a bit of snark and sarcasm, IMO.

I'm adding questions being overlooked in the WTO/TWW threads to the OP/topic post, because it's obviously a problem that needs to be addressed and fixed. I'm sure that if we have an actual randoms thread for everyone to post things in that they're thinking or just want to share, it may help clear up some of the NBR topics on those threads, but I can't say for sure because I don't know what's being discussed there that's making questions and CSs get over-looked.

AliciaGoose

@izza2 I think a Randoms thread is the perfect way to fix a lot of these problems of clutter in the other threads. Randoms threads are really successful at doing that in other boards. We used to (and still sometimes do) have just the weekend random thread here to encourage weekend participation in one place when a lot of people typically aren't around. A weeklong running random thread will probably be much better for us now. 

@MrsFL2015 More GTKY threads would probably be very helpful. They get posted from time to time but nowhere near often enough to foster daily conversation. I think because the typical daily threads (like UO, FFC) are more specific in terms of what gets posted in them, they don't see as much foot traffic anymore. If I don't have a UO I'm less likely to participate. If nothing bad happened Wednesday then I won't participate in WTF Wednesday. Etc. And a GTKY is usually a more positive thread that fosters more conversation about our interests and experiences. (Not that I don't also love FFFC and UO, they have their own special usefulness).

KirstinH88

I like having the GTKY in the WTO/TWW. Many days, when my cycle is on its boring stage, I post on the WTO/TWW just for the GTKY. With that being said, I also don't mind having other GTKY you questions, TTC related or not, outside of the WTO/TWW.

There have also been many times that I haven't answered people's questions because I don't have experience in their particular question. I don't use OPKs, I don't check CP, I haven't been TTC long enough to be referred to an RE, or even be on a medicated cycle, so if the questions are involving those topics, I just don't answer. Maybe I should reply back and say "sorry, I don't have experience in that and can't answer your question."

I agree that if someone commits a TOU violation like asking if they could be pregnant, feel free to flame away. Otherwise, I feel like we could be better about responding nicely and redirecting them to another board. If it's a general TTC question, then maybe it wouldn't be out of line to post to the whole board, but if it's a question that is specifically related to the WTO or TWW timeframe in your cycle, then it should go in those posts. However, I'm mostly concerned about people asking questions to the board as a whole and not utilizing the search function. Then our board will just get over crowded.

I honestly think we have a decently good system how this board works. Last night I went on another board (not on the bump) and it gave me a headache even trying to read through their posts. Everyday had like 100 posts and many of them only had 2-3 replies each. 

ImAMouseDuh

First of all, @izza2 is my queen. YASSS girl. 

Second, I was on TTGP under my old name for a loooong time, and though I've changed my name and left for a private group, I still lurk you guys on the daily, so I'm gonna chime in here.

This board has SO much to offer in terms of badass, ballsy women and loads of useful information. The problem I see is that, lurking daily, there's really not a whole lot of that useful information going around. Anything helpful tends to get lost in all the "board organization." People's questions don't get answered because they get lost in the daily WTO/TWW threads. 

I say let's ask questions, and answer newbies' questions (unless they're TOU violations of course), and let's do more FUN stuff on the board. Keep the daily threads as usual, because we all like those. But add some GTKY threads. AW threads (show your favorite pic of your pet, etc). Have board awards! Anything fun, really.

And when a name you don't recognize shows up, be cool. Unless they're posting something outrageous, play nice with the new girls. We were all new here once. 

KirstinH88

Maybe in each WTO/TWW we can have a "TTC Questions:" area just like we have month/cycle, timing, WAYDTGKU, r/r/cs, GTKY. That way there is a clear area for someone to ask a question TTC related. A lot of times people will post them in whatever area they think the question best fits and maybe it gets overlooked....?

mrsdaddario

I think this idea of change is great @izza2 GTKY is so redundant sometimes. People who have been here for a while, cough cough, see the same questions rotated constantly. I think maybe a once a week GTKY thread would be awesome. That way the WTO and TWW threads can really focus on TTC related questions, so as they do not get overlooked. I don't think everyone needs to respond to someone's question, especially if they have no experience with it. 

I agree that sometimes the culture of this community is to jump down the throats of drive by posters. Anyone asking in a round about way if they are KU is definitely annoying. But for instance, a post was made today about a topic I am personally involved with, and after directing them to joining us, I did out my two sense in nicely about the topic. And it didn't bother me, and I don't think it bothered anyone else. 

I like, as a whole community, random threads. It's a place to discuss everything and anything else not TTC related. Or, TTC related, because let's be honest, we're all nutty about TTC lol. 

MrsDho11

***dirty lurker/siggy warning***
I'm so glad to see this conversation happening!

MandyBeeSLP

I don't feel like I can chime in too much on this, because I left for a bit and haven't been back for long. When and why did the board switch to the Intro thread at the top? I feel like I never remember to look at it and short of people usually breaking the rules to post a separate one how does one ever welcome newbies? I don't see many people liking or responding to their intros in the Intro thread. 

Everycol0r

If a GTKY is redundant, it'll organically get pushed down the board and lost. People won't respond, so I don't think it's a big issue. 

Everycol0r

I just think that TTGP has gotten a bit polarizing. Folks are afraid to start a post, even a GTKY. 

mrsdee15

I love the idea on allowing more posts for members to either share some good info (if the post is about a question that's not "is this positive/am I totes preggers?!???11!?") or just GTKYs for fun.  I also miss the intro threads, I never read the thread and would love to know more about the newer members.  I was welcomed with open arms when I came out of lurkdom and really started participating, and it would be great to see that continue.  

mrsdaddario

@Everycol0r I do agree with that. People should not be afraid to post here! 

AliciaGoose

@mrsdaddario did you mean the GTKYs within the WTO/TWW are the ones that are redundant? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you meant to suggest getting them out of those threads and onto the board as a whole so that more important TTC related questions can get answered there?

If that's the case, I am also a fan of that idea. Though of course we would need more opinions to make a decision. 

mrsdaddario

Yes! @AliciaGoose. The daily GTKY questions are redundant. For every day users who have been here a while, and also will become redundant for newcomers who will also start posting daily. I'm all for GTKY's. But maybe on their own separate thread? So the WTO and TWW can be strictly about TTC. Especially if some people feel like their questions are getting missed in their R/R/CS. Just a thought!

Edit for awful spelling 

Also ETA I just read the vasectomy thread and now I realize why this thread popped up lol

clover28

I feel like I should chime in here since I was a part of the post that started this conversation.  First, I agree that a separate daily (or even weekly) GTKY/random conversation thread would be beneficial to keep the NBR chatter out of the TWW/WTO threads. I believe the TTC questions would be more likely to be addressed in the WTO/TWW threads if the GTKY was not in them.  Other boards I have been a part of have had daily general threads for NBR discussions and I feel like it made things run much more smoothly and keep the TTC questions where they needed to be.  There's always going to be SS and drive bys intermittently cluttering the board and there's not much we can do about that except direct them to the right place for their question or apply the appropriate level of snark.

As far as the QFP topic, I did jump the gun on the thread today.  Again, I apologize as I can see how it would make a newbie feel unwelcome to have that be the first response to her first post.  I vote we all be a little more chill with the new posters unless they are posting a pee stick or asking if they could be pregnant.  Then, let's let the snark fly.

ETA: Could we encourage new members to post their intro in the TWW/WTO threads?  I feel like more people would see them there than in the intro thread.  To be honest, I haven't read anything on the actual intro thread since I posted there.  Or should we have a weekly intro thread?  Or just say screw it and roll with the separate individual intro posts since that's what usually happens anyway?

AliciaGoose

I completely agree @mrsdaddario about the redundancy. Plus I think a daily GTKY will be better for board participation as a whole because people in WTO/TWW will get to mix and mingle. I remember there being regulars I very rarely interacted with because I never seemed to be in the same place as them at the same time.

Also the weekly random should be helpful if we decide to do that as well because as a lot of us have seen in other boards it encourages a ton of NBR conversation about any and everything you can think of.

I also actually realllly like @clover28 suggestion for posting intros in WTO/TWW. At this point I almost always click the intro thread just to get the little yellow new post sign to go away. I don't know that I would want to go back to individual introduction threads for each person. But I do want new people to feel welcome and think the way we do it now we haven't been. 

izza2

@KristinH88 - In the past, questions were always put in the r/r/cs section, and a note was put at the top of the post to say there was a question (*** question in r/r/cs ***). It worked in the past, when I was TTC actively and participated in the posts, because you were usually already asking questions about your CS, so it just fit to keep questions there.

It may help if there was a separate "Questions?" line, since I'm sure some people don't look at any CS questions because they're not confident in answering/helping. Or separate the R/R from the CS/Q's, maybe? That way you can skip over that section if you just want to rant, but don't want to ask any questions, and if you want to ask a question, that part is obviously being used so people know your post has a question?

KirstinH88

@izza2 I know most people put Qs in the R/r/Cs and even put the *** that there is a question at the beginning of their post. But I've also seen Qs in the WAYDTGKU and other sections. I think it would be easier to have a separate Q section or like you said, split the R/R and the CS/Q.

clover28

I'm a fan of splitting the R/R and CS/Q.  That sounds like it could really work.

letyourheartbeyourguide

clover28 said:

Could we encourage new members to post their intro in the TWW/WTO threads?  I feel like more people would see them there than in the intro thread.  To be honest, I haven't read anything on the actual intro thread since I posted there.  Or should we have a weekly intro thread?  Or just say screw it and roll with the separate individual intro posts since that's what usually happens anyway?

Whoever posts the WTO/TWW for the day could add a blurb saying something like, "New to the TTGP board? Please feel free to add a little introduction so we can get to know you. If you have any questions, [however y'all decide to handle this ... e.g. 'please put something like ***question below*** at the top and include your question in the Rant/Rave/Chart Stalk (r/r/cs) section' or 'please include it in the Chart Stalk/Question (cs/q) section']."

clover28

OR.. What if we have a daily or weekly GTKY/random thread that the newbies could introduce themselves in? That way, they are introing to everyone in the TTGP community instead of half in the TWW/WTO.

eta:  I like how they could ask questions after their intro in the TWW/WTO threads, like @letyourheartbeyourguide suggested. Hmmmmmmm...

AliciaGoose

So many good suggestions? When this is over should we maybe inventory the different ideas and vote on them? Like where we want new intros to go (if we want to move them at all) or if we want to take GTKY out of WTO/TWW, etc?

izza2

AliciaGoose said:

So many good suggestions? When this is over should we maybe inventory the different ideas and vote on them? Like where we want new intros to go (if we want to move them at all) or if we want to take GTKY out of WTO/TWW, etc?

I was figuring do the love-tit voting method -- two posts for each suggestion, one for yay one for nay, and whichever has more love-tits is the winner after so much time? I figure I can update the OP with suggestions once the discussion has gone on longer and we've hashed out all of the problems and no one can think of anything else that they think needs to be taken care of.
If there's anything that anyone feels should be added to that suggestion list or whatever, just let me know and I'll update it.

As for having introductions in the WTO/TWW -- I can't say I would support that. I understand the intro thread at the top, and part of me says it's nice not having intro threads, but I also don't read the intro thread often and I feel weird welcoming people on that thread. Part of me misses having separate intro threads where you can welcome each member and let them get to know your "face" and then ask them questions or let them ask basic questions if they need to... That was kind of one of my favourite things when I was first starting out, was seeing everyone welcoming everyone else.
I've also definitely noticed that I don't recognize most members with the intro thread being stickied and separate, because I didn't have that chance to see their separate introduction and say welcome and ask questions and things, you know?
ETA, since I didn't finish my thought: I wouldn't necessarily support WTO/TWW intros for a couple of reasons - a lot of people make intros and lurk a little more before jumping in to those, not everyone reads the entirety of those threads so a lot of introductions would be missed, and if we're already having problems with questions being missed, having a bunch of welcome posts would just take the place of the GTKY posts and would make it that much worse for questions to get noticed and answered.

MrsFL2015

clover28 said:

OR.. What if we have a daily or weekly GTKY/random thread that the newbies could introduce themselves in? That way, they are introing to everyone in the TTGP community instead of half in the TWW/WTO.

eta:  I like how they could ask questions after their intro in the TWW/WTO threads, like @letyourheartbeyourguide suggested. Hmmmmmmm...

I love this idea!  What about just a Newbie thread each Monday?  If I'm not part of the TWW/WTO, then I might not get to see a Newbies intro.   If there is a specific thread, I might be more likely to click on it and read up on new members. 

We can call it:  "TTGP Newbies Week of _______________"  

AliciaGoose

@izza2 Love tit method sounds perfect to me. To clarify, are you talking about making a separate post for each idea once the discussion has kind of died down? Or are you talking about love titting the originals? I feel like the originals would be hard because we all threw around a bunch of different ideas in each post. Sorry I'm a tiny bit confused!

I understand the issue with the Intro in the WTO/TWW. But I also don't like the current thread because I feel like it's become something that regulars don't actually even look at or participate in. But I'm not sure what my favorite idea is yet (nor do I have a better one).

Edit: I just saw the awesome weekly Intro thread idea above. Love it!

The rest of this is no longer relevant! Except maybe the one that said have intros in the daily GTKY? But even that seems like it would have its issues. That's one of those things that I'll love tit on my favorite when the time comes. 

MandyBeeSLP

MrsFL2015 said:

clover28 said:

OR.. What if we have a daily or weekly GTKY/random thread that the newbies could introduce themselves in? That way, they are introing to everyone in the TTGP community instead of half in the TWW/WTO.

eta:  I like how they could ask questions after their intro in the TWW/WTO threads, like @letyourheartbeyourguide suggested. Hmmmmmmm...

I love this idea!  What about just a Newbie thread each Monday?  If I'm not part of the TWW/WTO, then I might not get to see a Newbies intro.   If there is a specific thread, I might be more likely to click on it and read up on new members. 

We can call it:  "TTGP Newbies Week of _______________"  

I also like this idea! It can be like the BFP thread and then people can actually acknowledge and welcome new members. (And I have a bunch of cute wave and hello gifs I never get to use anymore and I miss them.) 

LadyMillil

I don't read the giant intro thread and I also didn't really like it when everyone made their own intro thread because that did clog up the board. I think a weekly intro thread is a great compromise.

I also like the idea of adding a question section to the WTO/TWW threads. I try to answer questions if I can on those threads, but sometimes I miss them.

I think there is a balance between posting questions in WTO/TWW and posting individual threads. For example, if someone creates a post for a chart stalk that is something that should be directed to the WTO/TWW but not every question fits in there.

I always quote a new poster because I've seen people DD a completely normal question as soon as they get a few answers. I usually try to answer the question or direct the poster to a more appropriate board so it's more than just a QFP - unless it's likely MUD or a TOU violation

izza2

AliciaGoose said:

@izza2 Love tit method sounds perfect to me. To clarify, are you talking about making a separate post for each idea once the discussion has kind of died down? Or are you talking about love titting the originals? I feel like the originals would be hard because we all threw around a bunch of different ideas in each post. Sorry I'm a tiny bit confused!

Definitely make a separate post for each idea. Love-titting the original posts would get very confusing!

kiki75

Board rule: Assume the best of people until there is ample evidence otherwise. Especially because tone can be hard to tell in text. I'm currently pretty upset that something I said ("Maybe try the 35+ boards?") was taken as being mean and got blown into something kind of crazy. I've now been called selfish over it. I simply didn't have time to write a lot and I wanted to get her to somewhere she could find what she was looking for quickly. Not being a jerk. Then again, if she had been around for very long and knew me, she would have known that I'm not  just a jerk.

As cliche as it is, be the change you wish to see on the board. If you think people are being too harsh, be the one to step in with kindness and calm (including not jumping all over the other posters, especially not jumping in to side with a stranger over a regular unless they're really out of line). If you have an all-group GTKY or fun post you would like to see, create it. 

How about we sticky at least one new post that covers TTGP tools? For example:
App you use and why: I use FF because it seems to be the 'smartest' for me. Glow is way off on my FW, even with a couple months of data. But it's also the place with the community where you can post pictures of your CM if you're so inclined. 
Brand(s) of OPKs: I started out strictly CBDA but I'm glad that I've added Wondfos because even though I have blood work that pretty much proves I ovulated cycle 5, I never got a peak reading on the CBDA. Thanks to Wondfos, I did know when I was ovulating.
Pregnancy test brand: ?
Lube: Preseed works well for us. 
PNVs: 
All the tea (and days you drink it):
Foods:
Other WAYDTGKU things:
Other tips you'd like to share - how you remember to temp, pee cups you can pack so you don't have to resort to hairspray caps (mentioned this week) when you're traveling, etc.

People can post there and go back and edit their post as time goes on and maybe they change their mind. Or maybe they add something like RRL tea.

In my opinion, we could unsticky "Secrets to Surviving the Waiting Game", "Pro-Tips", and "You Know You Are..." in favor of this one. I'm pretty so-so on those three and I think that something like this would be more valuable and removing two more would fit two more posts on the first page.

As for what questions should be able to have their own posts, I have a couple thoughts on that. 
1. If the question is likely to apply to the community and the discussion and answers could benefit a good portion of the group, by all means, start a new discussion!
2. If it's just a minor question, that goes in the WTO/TWW threads however we decide to do those in there. I think the bolded ***Question in R/R/CS*** still works. Times that they don't get answered I think it's usually because people don't have answers they feel confident about. So if it doesn't get answered, ask again in a day or two and maybe someone who has cycled in will know. If it's a major deal and you've tried in WTO/TWW go ahead and post it as a separate question, "I've asked this in WTO/TWW and didn't get an answer. I'm kinda freaking out. Do any of you know?"
3. If there's a drive-by question (other than "I'm totes KU riiiiiight???") from basically a stranger, we start out by trying to be kind. But maybe still responding with the post quoted. I think a response that is simply 'QFP' when they haven't done anything wrong yet is kind of a jerk move but I don't think all quoting is reserved for "MUD". We've had a LOT of dirty deletes from posters who seemed to be fine and then, bam! Dirty delete and they turn nasty. Quote the post and basically say, "Welcome, here's what I know about the topic you're asking about, read the Newbie guide, and please start posting in the WTO/TWW. This is a community, and we try to support each other."
4. I'm totes KU riiiiiiight??? Quote it and just say something like "Hi, welcome. Please take down the picture of the test. Both it and asking the community if you are pregnant are TOU violations. We can't tell you if you're pregnant. We don't know. The best thing to do is to test again in two days. If it's positive, no need to update us, just move on to your BMB. If it's negative, please join us here starting with the WTO and TWW threads."

As for the WTO/TWW threads, maybe we step back and ask what we want the point of them to be. In my mind, it's to create shifting communities of people who are currently in the same boat on either side of ovulation.

I vote against adding a bunch of verbiage. I would like it to stay short enough that people can post from memory on mobile without having to go back and try to copy+paste or remember all of the other stuff. I also vote to keep the GTKY question in there. There are days that I read people's posts and I have absolutely nothing to say to them based on their other answers. Or just "Sorry for CD1." I much prefer it if I can say, "Sorry for CD1. Something that relates to your GTKY and is something other than obsessing about TTC and being sad that this cycle didn't work." There are also plenty of days when I have little to say without the GTKY. Especially for later ovulaters like me, I kick off each cycle with about 12 days of either, "Not much going on. Just bleeding and boozing." or "Not bleeding any more. Just twiddling my thumbs." Then about five more of "Well. Yep. Just ovulated. Too early to even SS."

I also think that maybe we could do something more TTTC and also for the Benched/TTA. I have checked out the TTTC board and it's slooooowww over there and for the Benched/TTA group, I think the next best is the Babies on the Brain board and, meh. How about something like instead of weekly we do a TTTC post on odd days and a Benched/TTA post on even days?  

For intros, my vote is to keep them in their own thread and then maybe people add a little bit to their first TWW/WTO post. Personally, I do go read them all and love tit each intro. I also like having all of them in one place so they're easy to find when I want to go back and re-read any of them. If people aren't reading them when they're in a stickied post with a big yellow #new on there, well, I'm not sure that they're going to read them if they're their own posts or a weekly post or... But also, if someone posts a separate intro, no need to do anything other than either love tit it or say something to the effect of welcome. I somewhat vote against making separate intros a thing partially because about half of those people don't even stick around for one reason or another. One day I went back to read them and love tit after about five days and I found that a handful of the ones that I had just read a few days before had mint new "4 weeks pregnant" tickers. I think most people the first time they post in WTO/TWW already mention that it's their first time. Maybe we each just try to make a serious effort to welcome people then. Posting an intro is one thing. Posting your first TWW/WTO is when you really dive in.

Finally, I think that nothing should be decided until this discussion has gone on for at least a couple of business days. Weekends are usually slow and this one is probably going to be exceptionally slow due to the fact that this group is largely from the United States so it's not just any weekend but a holiday weekend for most. So, Thursday morning at the earliest. 

edit: typo fix

furbabymom2007

I am a little late to the discussion... But here are my thoughts.  Am I an old Reg? I have no idea... Been around since October ish lol

-the WTO/TWW are way to clogged up.  Part of it may be that people want to or feel the need to respond to everyone.  It's appreciated, but unnecessary.  I rarely respond to more than one or two people.  It's just hard on mobile and my dang thumbs get tired lol.  I think that moving the GTKY will keep some of the NBR related chatter in another thread and keep the WTO/TWW threads clean.  Also...  Please don't feel the need to type up 3 pages to relies to everyone who posted.  Want to acklowledge someone? Love tit! 

-the QFP debate...  Generally if I am responding to a new thread I will quote on principle.  Just in case.  If it is obviously a flame worthy post that is likely to get deleted I will just quote and QFP and then duck for cover lol.  Otherwise I just hit quote and dispense advise.  It depends on the tone of the OP and my mood lol. Also... Use quote half the time because I can't remember who I am talking to by the time I reach the reply box 

- on random questions in the forum.. If they are nice and polite, I'll answer the questions.  If they treat us like Google, I may impart some snark.  And always try to point them toward the newbie and daily threads 

- I like the idea of a weekly newbie thread  

Sugargirl1019

I like the idea of moving the GTKY to a weekly thread, and separating questions out of the R/R/CS. Also approve of the TTGP Newbies Weekly thread. I would like to see threads specifically about temping or cm discussion etc like someone mentioned earlier that had been done in the past.

Everycol0r

Kiki75 said:

Board rule: Assume the best of people until there is ample evidence otherwise. Especially because tone can be hard to tell in text. I'm currently pretty upset that something I said ("Maybe try the 35+ boards?") was taken as being mean and got blown into something kind of crazy. I've now been called selfish over it. I simply didn't have time to write a lot and I wanted to get her to somewhere she could find what she was looking for quickly. Not being a jerk. Then again, if she had been around for very long and knew me, she would have known that I'm not  just a jerk.

As cliche as it is, be the change you wish to see on the board. If you think people are being too harsh, be the one to step in with kindness and calm (including not jumping all over the other posters, especially not jumping in to side with a stranger over a regular unless they're really out of line). If you have an all-group GTKY or fun post you would like to see, create it. 

How about we sticky at least one new post that covers TTGP tools? For example:
App you use and why: I use FF because it seems to be the 'smartest' for me. Glow is way off on my FW, even with a couple months of data. But it's also the place with the community where you can post pictures of your CM if you're so inclined. 
Brand(s) of OPKs: I started out strictly CBDA but I'm glad that I've added Wondfos because even though I have blood work that pretty much proves I ovulated cycle 5, I never got a peak reading on the CBDA. Thanks to Wondfos, I did know when I was ovulating.
Pregnancy test brand: ?
Lube: Preseed works well for us. 
PNVs: 
All the tea (and days you drink it):
Foods:
Other WAYDTGKU things:
Other tips you'd like to share - how you remember to temp, pee cups you can pack so you don't have to resort to hairspray caps (mentioned this week) when you're traveling, etc.

People can post there and go back and edit their post as time goes on and maybe they change their mind. Or maybe they add something like RRL tea.

In my opinion, we could unsticky "Secrets to Surviving the Waiting Game", "Pro-Tips", and "You Know You Are..." in favor of this one. I'm pretty so-so on those three and I think that something like this would be more valuable and removing two more would fit two more posts on the first page.

As for what questions should be able to have their own posts, I have a couple thoughts on that. 
1. If the question is likely to apply to the community and the discussion and answers could benefit a good portion of the group, by all means, start a new discussion!
2. If it's just a minor question, that goes in the WTO/TWW threads however we decide to do those in there. I think the bolded ***Question in R/R/CS*** still works. Times that they don't get answered I think it's usually because people don't have answers they feel confident about. So if it doesn't get answered, ask again in a day or two and maybe someone who has cycled in will know. If it's a major deal and you've tried in WTO/TWW go ahead and post it as a separate question, "I've asked this in WTO/TWW and didn't get an answer. I'm kinda freaking out. Do any of you know?"
3. If there's a drive-by question (other than "I'm totes KU riiiiiight???") from basically a stranger, we start out by trying to be kind. But maybe still responding with the post quoted. I think a response that is simply 'QFP' when they haven't done anything wrong yet is kind of a jerk move but I don't think all quoting is reserved for "MUD". We've had a LOT of dirty deletes from posters who seemed to be fine and then, bam! Dirty delete and they turn nasty. Quote the post and basically say, "Welcome, here's what I know about the topic you're asking about, read the Newbie guide, and please start posting in the WTO/TWW. This is a community, and we try to support each other."
4. I'm totes KU riiiiiiight??? Quote it and just say something like "Hi, welcome. Please take down the picture of the test. Both it and asking the community if you are pregnant are TOU violations. We can't tell you if you're pregnant. We don't know. The best thing to do is to test again in two days. If it's positive, no need to update us, just move on to your BMB. If it's negative, please join us here starting with the WTO and TWW threads."

As for the WTO/TWW threads, maybe we step back and ask what we want the point of them to be. In my mind, it's to create shifting communities of people who are currently in the same boat on either side of ovulation.

I vote against adding a bunch of verbiage. I would like it to stay short enough that people can post from memory on mobile without having to go back and try to copy+paste or remember all of the other stuff. I also vote to keep the GTKY question in there. There are days that I read people's posts and I have absolutely nothing to say to them based on their other answers. Or just "Sorry for CD1." I much prefer it if I can say, "Sorry for CD1. Something that relates to your GTKY and is something other than obsessing about TTC and being sad that this cycle didn't work." There are also plenty of days when I have little to say without the GTKY. Especially for later ovulaters like me, I kick off each cycle with about 12 days of either, "Not much going on. Just bleeding and boozing." or "Not bleeding any more. Just twiddling my thumbs." Then about five more of "Well. Yep. Just ovulated. Too early to even SS."

I also think that maybe we could do something more TTTC and also for the Benched/TTA. I have checked out the TTTC board and it's slooooowww over there and for the Benched/TTA group, I think the next best is the Babies on the Brain board and, meh. How about something like instead of weekly we do a TTTC post on odd days and a Benched/TTA post on even days?  

For intros, my vote is to keep them in their own thread and then maybe people add a little bit to their first TWW/WTO post. Personally, I do go read them all and love tit each intro. I also like having all of them in one place so they're easy to find when I want to go back and re-read any of them. If people aren't reading them when they're in a stickied post with a big yellow #new on there, well, I'm not sure that they're going to read them if they're their own posts or a weekly post or... But also, if someone posts a separate intro, no need to do anything other than either love tit it or say something to the effect of welcome. I somewhat vote against making separate intros a thing partially because about half of those people don't even stick around for one reason or another. One day I went back to read them and love tit after about five days and I found that a handful of the ones that I had just read a few days before had mint new "4 weeks pregnant" tickers. I think most people the first time they post in WTO/TWW already mention that it's their first time. Maybe we each just try to make a serious effort to welcome people then. Posting an intro is one thing. Posting your first TWW/WTO is when you really dive in.

Finally, I think that nothing should be decided until this discussion has gone on for at least a couple of business days. Weekends are usually slow and this one is probably going to be exceptionally slow due to the fact that this group is largely from the United States so it's not just any weekend but a holiday weekend for most. So, Thursday morning at the earliest. 

edit: typo fix

Be careful with the statement in bold. That has potential WK written all over it. 

kiki75

@Everycol0r Oh, heck, no. I don't mean come in and white knight. I mean if someone asks a relatively innocuous question and it turns into a 'thing', people don't have to say, "Everyone's being such a jerk!" Instead, something like just simply answering their original question kindly and inviting them to jump into WTO/TWW without any commentary about the other comments in the thread.