Baby has dropped!

bigmomma14

I'm really suprised at some of the responses today. But I'm guessing it's the hormones that are making some replies a little insensitive. I'm sure no one would like to have a premature baby because of the extra hard start it would have, (perhaps aided breathing, continuously being drip fed and all other intervention). We are all in the same situation, eagerly anticipating the arrival of a new face in our lives. I think a lot of health professionals have contrasting views, at least in my opinion. I'm under two totally different care teams because I refuse to have my baby in the district I'm in however I do receive my basic maternity care from them, and I also receive referrals from the hospital I'm booked in with to have my newby. And what I have come to learn is that there is a lot of competition to outdo other professions in the same field by contradicting information. What I have learned through my experience is to take some and leave some. I take the bits that potentially have the ability to keep my bubba safe and leave the bits that seem to contradict. Most importantly I go with what I feel instinctively as a woman. When u ask other woman about things sometimes can make a situation worse. But as I like to repeat we all have those "hormones". Come on ladies let's offer support, we just want healthy lil ones at the end of this long journey. Good luck on all ur deliveries......whenever they may happen.x.x

PYLWhammy

bigmomma14 said:

I'm really suprised at some of the responses today. But I'm guessing it's the hormones that are making some replies a little insensitive. 

bigmomma14

See what I mean 

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09

@bigmomma14 One can be irritated, offended, or even outright bitchy and it has nothing to do with being hormonal.

Myzticsunshine

......For the record, I personally don't see how you in any way implies that you wanted your baby to be born early and/or unhealthy. I can't imagine that any of us haven't (at some point) said something along the lines of " I can't wait for this to be done already!" Or "I just want to meet them already!". Some people like being pregnant, and that's cool. But mostly, being pregnant can feel like forever. I personally get sick of the cramps and the emotions and having to pee all the time. Anyway I'm going to stop the rant and end off with, I haven't read any opinions on this board that were coming directly from a medical professional, but all babies come when they are ready. They don't really care about what is written in medical journals, or about what people claim is the best. I wish you the best, no matter when your baby comes.  

missnc77

bigmomma14 said:

I'm really suprised at some of the responses today. But I'm guessing it's the hormones that are making some replies a little insensitive. I'm sure no one would like to have a premature baby because of the extra hard start it would have, (perhaps aided breathing, continuously being drip fed and all other intervention). We are all in the same situation, eagerly anticipating the arrival of a new face in our lives.

Ahem...

sarahjo842 said:

I was obviously hoping she'd stay in the oven until full term at 37 weeks, but then got excited that she may make her debut a tad earlier than 40 weeks..darn those baby books for giving an estimate they can't back up!

She thought full term was 37 weeks, and that because her baby dropped at 33 weeks, it made her excited that it could come even earlier than 37 weeks. It's not hormones that caused the comments, it's the major face palm we all did.

laurenmdrn16

Aquinna82 said:

I saw a facebook meme yesterday of 2 unicorns on Noah's Arc, and one of them says "Hi, I'm Dave" and the other says "Hey, I'm Steve" and then they both say "oh, crap..."  I laughed for way longer than was probably reasonable.  So anyway, I know it's off topic, but if you want to know why there aren't more unicorns around, it's apparently because the 2 that made it onto the Arc were both dudes.  On a related note, I'm deliriously tired.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/living/real-unicorn-remains/

Bam! Science! Real unicorns.

vinerie

bigmomma14 said:

I'm really suprised at some of the responses today. But I'm guessing it's the hormones that are making some replies a little insensitive. I'm sure no one would like to have a premature baby because of the extra hard start it would have, (perhaps aided breathing, continuously being drip fed and all other intervention). We are all in the same situation, eagerly anticipating the arrival of a new face in our lives. I think a lot of health professionals have contrasting views, at least in my opinion. I'm under two totally different care teams because I refuse to have my baby in the district I'm in however I do receive my basic maternity care from them, and I also receive referrals from the hospital I'm booked in with to have my newby. And what I have come to learn is that there is a lot of competition to outdo other professions in the same field by contradicting information. What I have learned through my experience is to take some and leave some. I take the bits that potentially have the ability to keep my bubba safe and leave the bits that seem to contradict. Most importantly I go with what I feel instinctively as a woman. When u ask other woman about things sometimes can make a situation worse. But as I like to repeat we all have those "hormones". Come on ladies let's offer support, we just want healthy lil ones at the end of this long journey. Good luck on all ur deliveries......whenever they may happen.x.x

laurenmdrn16

Also wanted to contribute a legit response. My baby girl dropped a few weeks ago and I was loving being able to breathe and eat again. However, here I am at 35wks and the little lady has flipped back up and the acid reflux and shortness of breath is back. At least now I stopped waddling and I can go more than 2 minutes without having to pee again. So, like PPs have said, babies don't necessarily stay dropped. Enjoy being able to breathe and eat normally...for now!

Oh, and my son was a preemie so I have been celebrating every milestone like crazy. We just passed the stage when my son was delivered so I had a little private dance party. I want to keep this girl cooking as long as possible, but am super excited we made it this far. So I get being excited about reaching certain milestones and I also understand the anxiousness to meet your baby. Just hold on for a little bit longer and you will meet your LO when you both are ready. Until then, try to enjoy imagining all the incredible things happening as your LO finishes up growing and developing safely inside your body.

gamommyx3

laurenmdrn16 said:

Aquinna82 said:

I saw a facebook meme yesterday of 2 unicorns on Noah's Arc, and one of them says "Hi, I'm Dave" and the other says "Hey, I'm Steve" and then they both say "oh, crap..."  I laughed for way longer than was probably reasonable.  So anyway, I know it's off topic, but if you want to know why there aren't more unicorns around, it's apparently because the 2 that made it onto the Arc were both dudes.  On a related note, I'm deliriously tired.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/living/real-unicorn-remains/

Bam! Science! Real unicorns.

Woohoo!!!

Seriously though, unicorns are the only reason I keep opening up this thread.

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

Jparke2

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09 said:

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

My OB-GYN practice lists 37-40 weeks as full term on their website. I want to keep my baby in as long as possible (despite being told I'll probably be induced a week and a half early) but I also figured that 37 weeks was a safe bet! I also assumed that a little longer was probably better in most cases, but everyone is different and there has to be some kind of wiggle room in this time frame! So I'm torn between arguing with my doctors to not induce me, letting it go and being induced, and hoping baby girl comes early so I don't have to be induced. All of these feel wrong in some way!

dsmith211

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09 said:

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

At the birthing center I'm having the baby at they can only deliver once I get to 37 weeks, otherwise I'll have to deliver at a hospital. They consider that to be full term there, but obviously they would like baby to stay put a little longer. Basically, I would like baby to stay as long as she needs but I won't be freaking out if I happen to go into labor at 37 weeks.

LadySamLady

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09 said:

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

I thought that too and I was definitely thinking of it as an exciting benchmark to reach, if the baby came after 37 weeks we'd be in the safe zone. I'm not exactly sure where I got that from though, I think the Mayo clinic book maybe. Either way, still feels like I'm going to be pregnant forever.

 

js8812

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09 said:

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

I thought it was as well.  That's what my hospital considers full-term anyway.  For example, if you have any sort of regular contractions if you are before 37 weeks, you are supposed to go in immediately.  If you are beyond 37 weeks, you're not supposed to go in until they are 5 mins apart. 

I definitely want to let this baby grow for as long as he is able to though!  Well, until 41 weeks because I don't think they will let me go much longer than that.

ETA, I'm not disagreeing that 39w shouldn't be the minimal amount for full term... just sharing what I had heard.

Kurrant

AnastasiaBeaverhausen09 said:

Soooooo, am I the only one who also thought 37 weeks was full term?  I thought that was the "safe" baby-can-come-and-be-ok zone, and may or may not have a countdown going until that date?

my OB joked at a previous appointment that my baby was flipped early and that she might be delivering more babies on the week of the 25th than she previously thought (my EDD is May2nd according to my OB and April 24th according to my US tech . . .) 

After all of the laughs were done she got more serious and talked about how I should be ready and all and when I expressed any concern about delivering early she said "well 37 weeks is considered full term so there isn't anything to worry about" At this point all I know is that she will pop out when she is ready to and I don't plan on partaking in the "self induction festivities" that seem to crop up around this time. Aside from wanting her to ripen as much as possible before making an appearance I wouldn't mind being closer to the next months pay day as well. . .

kbrands7

I  know @JessicaB0627 already supplied the ACOG information, but this article provides a fairly good overview of why 37 or even 38w is no longer full term, but is early term (since a few years ago). https://www.cbsnews.com/news/full-term-pregnancy-definition-changes/
And this from ACOG: https://m.acog.org/About-ACOG/News-Room/News-Releases/2013/Ob-Gyns-Redefine-Meaning-of-Term-Pregnancy?IsMobileSet=true

lalala2004

@saraleigh2 @bigmomma14 and anyone else who want to bring "hormones" into play:

That's extremely insulting to women in general to imply that we allow hormones to control our actions and not make their own decisions. If a woman here has a passionate response, it's because she is passionate about something, not because she's under the influence of "hormones".

Same thing if she's snarky, bitchy, or just plain rude. Hormones have nothing to do with it. 

js8812

kbrands7 said:

I  know @JessicaB0627 already supplied the ACOG information, but this article provides a fairly good overview of why 37 or even 38w is no longer full term, but is early term (since a few years ago). https://www.cbsnews.com/news/full-term-pregnancy-definition-changes/
And this from ACOG: https://m.acog.org/About-ACOG/News-Room/News-Releases/2013/Ob-Gyns-Redefine-Meaning-of-Term-Pregnancy?IsMobileSet=true

This makes sense and still goes along with what my hospital says.  I guess I just assumed not pre-term = full-term, which it doesn't.  However, according to this going into labor at 37 or 38 weeks is not considered pre-term.

PYLWhammy

lalala2004 said:

@saraleigh2 @bigmomma14 and anyone else who want to bring "hormones" into play:

That's extremely insulting to women in general to imply that we allow hormones to control our actions and not make their own decisions. If a woman here has a passionate response, it's because she is passionate about something, not because she's under the influence of "hormones".

Same thing if she's snarky, bitchy, or just plain rude. Hormones have nothing to do with it. 

JoMunson

I had read articles that 37 weeks is now considered "early term", and talked to my midwife about it. They tend to ride the fence, and believe in the idea of a delivery window of 37-41 weeks, with the baby in your arms by 41. They caution against any natural intervention until 37 weeks. 

ayeshaohara

I just gotta say...while we don't appreciate the hormones as an "excuse" or reason for our behaviour on the boards...when I'm at home I blame my hormones for EVERYTHING! Sorry honey, those dam hormones again. And surprisingly the hubby buys it as an acceptable excuse a lot of the time I'm going to have to come up with something better for when baby comes. Perhaps sleep deprivation??

araecasey

ayeshaohara said:

I just gotta say...while we don't appreciate the hormones as an "excuse" or reason for our behaviour on the boards...when I'm at home I blame my hormones for EVERYTHING! Sorry honey, those dam hormones again. And surprisingly the hubby buys it as an acceptable excuse a lot of the time I'm going to have to come up with something better for when baby comes. Perhaps sleep deprivation??

That's legit. And not even an excuse. Unless he's taking equal night feeds.

bigmomma14

Lol. We are women. And hormones DO control our actions!!!! 

yogahh

I've said it before... Calling someone hormonal on tb is warning worthy. Be careful throwing that word around. One of us crazy, hormonal women might report it. Because you know, the hormones made me do it. 

kbrands7

bigmomma14 said:

Lol. We are women. And hormones DO control our actions!!!! 

No. If hormones controlled my actions, I surely would have been fired and on the news by now. Hormones may make me more irritable on certain days, but I control my actions. Stop throwing out this blanket statement as a way to dismiss passion, concern, and science. 

Bltbear82

bigmomma14 said:

Lol. We are women. And hormones DO control our actions!!!! 

This is like blaming a man's actions on testosterone. That's not acceptable, and neither is using hormones as a blanket excuse for things.

lalala2004

bigmomma14 said:

Lol. We are women. And hormones DO control our actions!!!! 

WTF? Take a biology class. Hormones send messages to parts of your body to illicit involuntary responses. Bodily functions, not your actual words and actions. I mean, blame a fart on hormones, maybe, but not on punching someone in the face, for instance.

I mean really, do you think "the hormones made me do it!" would hold up in a court of law, or are you just a troll?

bigmomma14

Lighten up people...... Jeeeez
you are all so quick to pounce. 

bigmomma14

Australian Institute of Criminology

Table 1: Common Symptoms of PMS
Physical
Abdominal bloating; Leg cramps; Temporary hypoglycaemia; Headache; Acne; Constipation; Oedema; Breast swelling; Weight gain
Emotional
Depression; Anxiety; Anger; Guilt; Mood changes; Panic; Low self-esteem; Fatigue; Aggressiveness; Psychosis
Behavioural
Intolerance; Intense Irritability; Restlesness; Social isolation; Sugar and salt craving; Insomnia; Increased used of alcohol; Hysteria; Confusion; Physical Violence; Accident prone; Anorexia or Bulimia; Libido changes; Suicidal; Lack of self-control.
Source: Johnson 1987; Keye & Trunnell 1986; Reid & Yen 1981; Brunetti & Taff 1984 

bigmomma14

The other type of study that has examined the possible link between criminality and PMS has employed either prison admission data or retrospective reports to ascertain the point in their menstrual cycle when female prisoners committed their offences. 

bigmomma14

. For instance in 1977, a woman was acquitted of shoplifting. Her diary and testimony by her doctor (Dalton) and husband showed a cyclical pattern of such deviant activity. Another woman was found not guilty of dangerous driving based only on the evidence that she had had two accidents within 48 hours of menses.

The first case to generate some publicity was in 1978 when a woman appeared on a charge of attempted arson with a defence of PMS. The evidence, based on retrospective reports, was accepted by the judge who put the defendant on probation and ordered her to undergo medical treatment (Edwards 1982). Two other diminished responsibility pleas by reason of PMS were accepted in a manslaughter case and an assault. 

businessmama

bigmomma14 said:

The other type of study that has examined the possible link between criminality and PMS has employed either prison admission data or retrospective reports to ascertain the point in their menstrual cycle when female prisoners committed their offences. 

Not all women commit crimes...  Not all pregnant women have the same symptoms. To use a PMS criminal report as a basis to generalize members of an online forum is overreaching. 

bigmomma14

Ahem..... Need I say more. I guess I'm not such a troll after all...... And for the record it looks as though "hormones made me do it" WOULD" stand up in court!!! 

missnc77

This is how I feel when I see someone with a limited post history suddenly drop in a thread and argue with everyone...

bigmomma14

But that's not the point I'm trying to make. A woman came on here airing her concerns of her baby lightening to get some general support, not once did she say "I desire to have this baby early so it can be premature and suffer" all she stated was that she wouldn't mind to meet her baby if it WAS to make an early appearance. so many of you were quick to judge her initial plea for some form of comfort, and replaced it with unsociable babble, which I tried to excuse with hormones, although what it actually did was fish out judgemental, inconsiderate females, who want nothing more than a verbal battle on a PREGNANCY forum.

bigmomma14

Limited post history... Lol this is an app I use to pass the time.... Lol it's not my life. Feel sorry for ur judgemental state though

businessmama

bigmomma14 said:

But that's not the point I'm trying to make. A woman came on here airing her concerns of her baby lightening to get some general support, not once did she say "I desire to have this baby early so it can be premature and suffer" all she stated was that she wouldn't mind to meet her baby if it WAS to make an early appearance. so many of you were quick to judge her initial plea for some form of comfort, and replaced it with unsociable babble, which I tried to excuse with hormones, although what it actually did was fish out judgemental, inconsiderate females, who want nothing more than a verbal battle on a PREGNANCY forum.

Each person shows some support in a different way. People have said things above that explain what they were trying to accomplish, throigh their experience or from what they were told by their doctor. It may not look the same as you would reply, but just because it was different, didn't mean they weren't trying to give their best advice. 

You are judging their support as bad or wrong based on what you think... Even the OP came back and said maybe she came across different than intended. 

Then you proceeded to insult everyone's form
of support as hormones, reducing legitimate posts to nothing. 

I get that you were trying to lighten the tone, but by reducing valid contributions, it makes it seems like pregnant women are incapable of forming credible responses to anything, let alone a pregnancy related question. 

This has gone back and forth so really no point in continuing, but you should know you are participating in the exact behavior you are accusing other posters of doing.

laurenmdrn16

bigmomma14