having such a crummy day...

scarla · November 2012

I had a cp last cycle started bleeding Oct 21st and stopped Oct 27th. I'm now CD 12. I started using OPK's on cd9 and got negatives until yesterday I got a positive. My HCG is 0, just had a blood test on Monday. I called my dr today just to verify again that my betas were all zero so no chance of a false positive and I got some disheartening news. I spoke with a nurse she took a closer look at my blood work from last Monday (29th) and she said all my levels were very normal so the chances of me actually ovulating now are slim to none - in her words. That the OPK must be incorrect. I'm feeling super defeated as just seeing that smiley made me excited again and made me feel good knowing I was back in business. I guess I am still dealing with the mc and got so happy again, just to be brought down. I am also temping so hopefully that will help confirm something. Trying to stay positive. I know it could always be worse, and I'm trying to remember that. Guess I just needed to vent to people who understand what a let down it is. Thanks for listening.

miakrita · November 2012

awe I'm so sorry. I think we can all relate to the feeling of not being over our losses and the feeling of excitement and disappointment...a vicious cycle. I hope that it gets easier for your, the more time you have between you and your loss... (hugs)

scarla · November 2012

Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate the input! I agree - this is exactly what I thought as well. But when I heard it from my dr's office, I guess I just took it to heart. Not trying to get my hopes up that I'm really ovulating.

hungryhippo · November 2012

MamaBearCher:
scarla:
I had a cp last cycle started bleeding Oct 21st and stopped Oct 27th. I'm now CD 12. I started using OPK's on cd9 and got negatives until yesterday I got a positive. My HCG is 0, just had a blood test on Monday. I called my dr today just to verify again that my betas were all zero so no chance of a false positive and I got some disheartening news. I spoke with a nurse she took a closer look at my blood work from last Monday (29th) and she said all my levels were very normal so the chances of me actually ovulating now are slim to none - in her words. That the OPK must be incorrect. I'm feeling super defeated as just seeing that smiley made me excited again and made me feel good knowing I was back in business. I guess I am still dealing with the mc and got so happy again, just to be brought down. I am also temping so hopefully that will help confirm something. Trying to stay positive. I know it could always be worse, and I'm trying to remember that.
Guess I just needed to vent to people who understand what a let down it is.
Thanks for listening.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm confused though: Why would normal levels indicate that you are not ovulating? From my understanding, opk's measure the amount of LH in your urine and you get an LH surge a day or so before you ovulate. How would your blood work on Monday have any indication on whether or not you are ovulating now? I would continue temping to verify whether or not you did indeed ovulate. Good luck!

ITA. I don't understand why normal levels on Monday would indicate little to no chance that you are ovulating now. I think either the nurse misunderstood you or she's one of these ridiculous people who think we all ovulate on CD14 and thinks that you can't be ovulating until you get your period now that your levels are at 0. I think you are gearing up to ovulate now.

FWIW, I know I ovulated after both of my losses when my levels got down close to zero. I didn't even get all the way to zero before ovulating after the 2nd loss. I think my HCG was about an 8 or something like that when I ovulated the 2nd time.

LaTi07 · November 2012

I'm sorry you are having such a crummy day. Also about your Dr.'s office, take what they say about that with a grain of salt. Most offices operate with the mind set that every woman has a 28 day cycle and she ovulates on CD14 and has a 14 day LP. I know my old office argued with me about how far along I was because they measure from LMP and I counted from my O date. So unless they specifically were checking your hormone levels, they are probably talking out their a**.

I know it's really easy to get down when you get some news from your Dr.'s office, but you can take this as a chance to take further control of your own health. Start charting and find out what your normal is because everyone is different. Just remind yourself that unless they have an u/s wand up your lady bits or are actively monitoring your blood levels, anything they say is simply guessing.

scarla · November 2012

LaTi07:
I'm sorry you are having such a crummy day. Also about your Dr.'s office, take what they say about that with a grain of salt. Most offices operate with the mind set that every woman has a 28 day cycle and she ovulates on CD14 and has a 14 day LP. I know my old office argued with me about how far along I was because they measure from LMP and I counted from my O date. So unless they specifically were checking your hormone levels, they are probably talking out their a**.

I know it's really easy to get down when you get some news from your Dr.'s office, but you can take this as a chance to take further control of your own health. Start charting and find out what your normal is because everyone is different. Just remind yourself that unless they have an u/s wand up your lady bits or are actively monitoring your blood levels, anything they say is simply guessing.

Thanks for your input it really helps! I did have an u/s also, but she didn't bring that up. So I wonder if they even looked at that....I go to a FS and you would think they have their s**t together. The appt I went to after I had a confirmed CP the woman walks in the room to do the ultrasound saying, "I hear you have good news!!" (obviously didn't look at my chart)...I though DH was going to give her a throat punch. So maybe this place isn't all what it's cracked up to be. And you are right, I am going to keep charting and hope for the best. I shouldn't have let them ruin my day.

Thanks so much for the reply.

scarla · November 2012

hungryhippo:
MamaBearCher:
scarla:
I had a cp last cycle started bleeding Oct 21st and stopped Oct 27th. I'm now CD 12. I started using OPK's on cd9 and got negatives until yesterday I got a positive. My HCG is 0, just had a blood test on Monday. I called my dr today just to verify again that my betas were all zero so no chance of a false positive and I got some disheartening news. I spoke with a nurse she took a closer look at my blood work from last Monday (29th) and she said all my levels were very normal so the chances of me actually ovulating now are slim to none - in her words. That the OPK must be incorrect. I'm feeling super defeated as just seeing that smiley made me excited again and made me feel good knowing I was back in business. I guess I am still dealing with the mc and got so happy again, just to be brought down. I am also temping so hopefully that will help confirm something. Trying to stay positive. I know it could always be worse, and I'm trying to remember that.
Guess I just needed to vent to people who understand what a let down it is.
Thanks for listening.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm confused though: Why would normal levels indicate that you are not ovulating? From my understanding, opk's measure the amount of LH in your urine and you get an LH surge a day or so before you ovulate. How would your blood work on Monday have any indication on whether or not you are ovulating now? I would continue temping to verify whether or not you did indeed ovulate. Good luck!
ITA. I don't understand why normal levels on Monday would indicate little to no chance that you are ovulating now. I think either the nurse misunderstood you or she's one of these ridiculous people who think we all ovulate on CD14 and thinks that you can't be ovulating until you get your period now that your levels are at 0. I think you are gearing up to ovulate now.
FWIW, I know I ovulated after both of my losses when my levels got down close to zero. I didn't even get all the way to zero before ovulating after the 2nd loss. I think my HCG was about an 8 or something like that when I ovulated the 2nd time.

Thank you SO much, it feels good to hear others stories and makes me feel like I'm NOT crazy. I'm SUPER irregular, didn't have AF for 6 months, so that's why I was referred to the FS in the first place. It's hard to chart when I don't have a starting point. Which makes it even more frustrating when they don't understand all the HOPE I put into 1 cycle. UG...TTCAL - such a struggle.

Thanks

km_md · November 2012

I am so sorry that you are having a rough day. This is such an unfortunate addition to the pain of a loss. It really sucks when you think that your body is getting the message to get back on track and it does a complete 180 on you. ((hugs)) I hope that it returns to normal soon.

densquared · November 2012

I would agree with the PP. Your bloodwork on Monday likely wouldn't catch a surge on Wednesday. I would def keep temping and watch for that shift. I don't think you are out of it for O this month.

hungryhippo · November 2012

scarla:
Thank you SO much, it feels good to hear others stories and makes me feel like I'm NOT crazy. I'm SUPER irregular, didn't have AF for 6 months, so that's why I was referred to the FS in the first place. It's hard to chart when I don't have a starting point. Which makes it even more frustrating when they don't understand all the HOPE I put into 1 cycle. UG...TTCAL such a struggle.Thanks :

Has your Dr. ruled out PCOS? If you have long cycles that could be a possibility, and if so OPKs would be pretty unreliable. There's a danger of false positive OPKs with PCOS, so I suppose the nurse could have been referring to that. Or, I suppose it is possible that they checked your estrogen and found it to be too low to indicate a follicle nearing maturity.

Whatever the case, they didn't communicate with you clearly and it would be ok to ask for clarification.

scarla · November 2012

hungryhippo:
Has your Dr. ruled out PCOS? If you have long cycles that could be a possibility, and if so OPKs would be pretty unreliable. There's a danger of false positive OPKs with PCOS, so I suppose the nurse could have been referring to that. Or, I suppose it is possible that they checked your estrogen and found it to be too low to indicate a follicle nearing maturity. Whatever the case, they didn't communicate with you clearly and it would be ok to ask for clarification.

Yes - he did rule out PCOS. They did several blood tests and u/s when I first started at the FS to check for that. Not sure if there are ongoing tests that need to be done, but the dr has stated that isn't my issue (as of now).

I went off bc pills last Jan after being on them for about 14 years. I was never regular before I went on them and that was one of the reasons I did try them out. Not sure if being on them for so long has anything to do with it.

I think I am going to let it ride for this cycle (which is so hard to do). I got a negative OPK last night ( I should have tested twice yesterday but didn't have time). I haven't had a temp spike, but really praying for one in the next few days. I'll know it's game over if I don't get that.

Thanks for all the answers. I do feel a lot better today about the situation!

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