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    Hi Lizzy!  My hubby and I have had similar issues - we did it very infrequently before TTC, like maybe 3 times a month.  It was a little awkward transitioning into doing it more frequently (and by that I mean twice a week, we don't have energy for more).  However, once we got into the groove it became quite fun and the "new" normal!  not sure if we will continue doing it twice a week after I get pregnant or not, but for now I am just enjoying it and embracing the change.  It's all in good fun.  Don't worry, LOTS of married people don't have sex very frequently - there is nothing wrong with you or him.  It's a myth that everyone likes to have sex all the time.  My advice is just have fun and enjoy the here & now - spice it up with sexy lingerie or whatever floats his boat!  Be happy!  Men are turned on by happy, excited women.
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    edited October 2015
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    So, posters are emotionally ready to have a child with a man... But not in a place, for whatever reason, that you would consider getting married? Or waiting until your actual wedding?

    That makes no sense.

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    Because it's none of your business!!!!!!!! I started typing my reasoning but I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone. I seriously can't believe you are even still trying to pull answers out of anyone.. MYOB lady..

    While I agree with you - this was in the wrong post lol :)

    Hahah your quick girl! Idk how that even happened! I was typing on the right one. Had to pause because I'm at work and somehow I hit post and it's on the wrong one... ughhh technology lol and I forgot part of it on the right post. Whatev. F today already. Sorry OP.


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    lizzybtlizzybt member
    edited October 2015

     PrimRoseMama said:

    @lizzybt : Ok, I hear what you are saying. BUT. and this is a huge BUT...

    It sounds like you resent him for the previous sex-less relationship and are holding it against him that he hasn't shaped up before now. That's entirely unfair because he cannot change the past.

    Again, I'm not trying to sound harsh-- but you knew about his lack of desire and what made him happy with regards to sex frequency BEFORE you married him. You knew about it for a long time and expecting it to change over-night or for the long term is just not reasonable. I understand that is what you want but it sounds like you and your husband are not sexually compatible without some very real work involved. The work will be constant as well. It sounds like you have an issue with this.

    I think that is why others recommended putting TTC on hold. The reason? You don't want to bring a child into a house full of resentment and bad vibes. A baby will not help in the sex department. If anything, it will be one more reason for your husband (and you) to avoid sex. In my experience sex after kids takes more effort to keep up energy levels and desire. If your husband is happy with the sex frequency-- its unfair to ask him to change just because that is what makes you happy. Do you see where I'm coming from?

    Again, its different if this was a temporary thing (after illness or children). This has been a theme in your relationship and I can sense your resentment. Your feelings are not invalid, but I can't say its fair to your husband in this instance.

    I'm not completely unfeeling for your situation. All the sex issues in my marriage happened after DS was born, but I've had a lot go on (family members die, my mother is ill and my pain problems have increased). This sounds like a permanent fixture in your marriage and if you are not happy about it-- no amount of badgering, TTC or babies is going to fix this.

    Woah, the way you are talking with bad vibes and resentment makes it sound like I'm walking around bitter and I shouldn't be having kids because my bitterness is going to affect them. Besides sex we are very much functional and in a happy place. Like I said, I've gotten used to this, I was fine with our lack of sex life until I realized, hey we need to pick it up a little more if we are going to TTC but with that I realized that we wouldn't be having sex because he/we wants to, it's to have a baby and that depresses me a little. I perfectly understand that having children will mean less sex but when you're only having it once a month then IMO I'm not sacrificing a whole lot anyway. And I'm certainly not trying to TTC to fix the sex situation.
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    I'm pretty late to the party, but here are my thoughts:

    Putting the weight of your self-opinion on another person is a bit unfair.  It's a heavy weight.  Some days my husband wants to have sex.  Sometimes he doesn't.  Am I just as hot and sexy on the days he doesn't?  Damn right I am.  His level of desire for me on a given day has no actual bearing on my self-worth, not because I don't value his desire, but because my self-worth is in my own head.  I'm responsible for it and I maintain it.  It doesn't matter what "normal" couples do, because that has nothing to do with us either.  We do what we do and it's fabulous because it's us.

    I don't know anything about you other than what you've written here, but I'm going to suggest that you enter counseling to be able to draw a division between your husband's desire and your desirability.  They are not related.  Maybe you go as a couple, maybe by yourself.  Either way, I think it would benefit your situation.

    If you're not having enough sex because you like sex and want to have more, address that with your husband.  If you're not having enough sex because sex is how you feel validated and you need it to know that you're worthy as a human, that's a lot of pressure to put on your husband.

    I wish you the best.

    That isn't where I was going with it at all. But thanks for trying
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    edited October 2015
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    Others may think that but there are others who don't see resentment. Have you never been in a situation where PrimRoseMama said:
    lizzybt said:

     PrimRoseMama said:

    @lizzybt : Ok, I hear what you are saying. BUT. and this is a huge BUT...

    It sounds like you resent him for the previous sex-less relationship and are holding it against him that he hasn't shaped up before now. That's entirely unfair because he cannot change the past.

    Again, I'm not trying to sound harsh-- but you knew about his lack of desire and what made him happy with regards to sex frequency BEFORE you married him. You knew about it for a long time and expecting it to change over-night or for the long term is just not reasonable. I understand that is what you want but it sounds like you and your husband are not sexually compatible without some very real work involved. The work will be constant as well. It sounds like you have an issue with this.

    I think that is why others recommended putting TTC on hold. The reason? You don't want to bring a child into a house full of resentment and bad vibes. A baby will not help in the sex department. If anything, it will be one more reason for your husband (and you) to avoid sex. In my experience sex after kids takes more effort to keep up energy levels and desire. If your husband is happy with the sex frequency-- its unfair to ask him to change just because that is what makes you happy. Do you see where I'm coming from?

    Again, its different if this was a temporary thing (after illness or children). This has been a theme in your relationship and I can sense your resentment. Your feelings are not invalid, but I can't say its fair to your husband in this instance.

    I'm not completely unfeeling for your situation. All the sex issues in my marriage happened after DS was born, but I've had a lot go on (family members die, my mother is ill and my pain problems have increased). This sounds like a permanent fixture in your marriage and if you are not happy about it-- no amount of badgering, TTC or babies is going to fix this.

    Woah, the way you are talking with bad vibes and resentment makes it sound like I'm walking around bitter and I shouldn't be having kids because my bitterness is going to affect them. Besides sex we are very much functional and in a happy place. Like I said, I've gotten used to this, I was fine with our lack of sex life until I realized, hey we need to pick it up a little more if we are going to TTC but with that I realized that we wouldn't be having sex because he/we wants to, it's to have a baby and that depresses me a little. I perfectly understand that having children will mean less sex but when you're only having it once a month then IMO I'm not sacrificing a whole lot anyway. And I'm certainly not trying to TTC to fix the sex situation.
    No, but if a board of internet strangers can feel the "I resent him for years of a basically sexless marriage" vibe through the computer then in person there has to be some manifestation. Also, judging from your responses you were not "fine".

    I don't think that TTC at this juncture is wise. You can do what you feel is right, but given just what you've shared here. I would put it on hold.

    lizzybt said:

    I'm pretty late to the party, but here are my thoughts:

    Putting the weight of your self-opinion on another person is a bit unfair.  It's a heavy weight.  Some days my husband wants to have sex.  Sometimes he doesn't.  Am I just as hot and sexy on the days he doesn't?  Damn right I am.  His level of desire for me on a given day has no actual bearing on my self-worth, not because I don't value his desire, but because my self-worth is in my own head.  I'm responsible for it and I maintain it.  It doesn't matter what "normal" couples do, because that has nothing to do with us either.  We do what we do and it's fabulous because it's us.

    I don't know anything about you other than what you've written here, but I'm going to suggest that you enter counseling to be able to draw a division between your husband's desire and your desirability.  They are not related.  Maybe you go as a couple, maybe by yourself.  Either way, I think it would benefit your situation.

    If you're not having enough sex because you like sex and want to have more, address that with your husband.  If you're not having enough sex because sex is how you feel validated and you need it to know that you're worthy as a human, that's a lot of pressure to put on your husband.

    I wish you the best.

    That isn't where I was going with it at all. But thanks for trying


    Look, it's pretty simple.  You want your husband to do certain things (initiate sex) to make you feel a certain way (desired).  When he does, you don't care for it because it isn't making you feel the way you want.  That's a problem with you, not him.  And the more you go on about it, the more I wonder whether there is any reasonable solution for it.  Apparently having less sex doesn't help.  Having more sex doesn't help.  It seems that he's in a lose-lose situation here, and that problem won't be solved without communication between you and your husband. 

    And no, I don't mean nagging.

    My fear is his frequency of sex is because he wants a baby, not because he desires me. I've talked with him, he doesn't get it. I post this and I hear a lot of positive responses from women who have been in the same situation. And then I hear from others like yourself who are telling me I have issues. I think we all have issues, no need to judge. 
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    ArtlessIbexArtlessIbex member
    edited October 2015
    lizzybt said:

    I'm pretty late to the party, but here are my thoughts:

    Putting the weight of your self-opinion on another person is a bit unfair.  It's a heavy weight.  Some days my husband wants to have sex.  Sometimes he doesn't.  Am I just as hot and sexy on the days he doesn't?  Damn right I am.  His level of desire for me on a given day has no actual bearing on my self-worth, not because I don't value his desire, but because my self-worth is in my own head.  I'm responsible for it and I maintain it.  It doesn't matter what "normal" couples do, because that has nothing to do with us either.  We do what we do and it's fabulous because it's us.

    I don't know anything about you other than what you've written here, but I'm going to suggest that you enter counseling to be able to draw a division between your husband's desire and your desirability.  They are not related.  Maybe you go as a couple, maybe by yourself.  Either way, I think it would benefit your situation.

    If you're not having enough sex because you like sex and want to have more, address that with your husband.  If you're not having enough sex because sex is how you feel validated and you need it to know that you're worthy as a human, that's a lot of pressure to put on your husband.

    I wish you the best.

    That isn't where I was going with it at all. But thanks for trying


    Look, it's pretty simple.  You want your husband to do certain things (initiate sex) to make you feel a certain way (desired).  When he does, you don't care for it because it isn't making you feel the way you want.  That's a problem with you, not him.  And the more you go on about it, the more I wonder whether there is any reasonable solution for it.  Apparently having less sex doesn't help.  Having more sex doesn't help.  It seems that he's in a lose-lose situation here, and that problem won't be solved without communication between you and your husband. 

    And no, I don't mean nagging.

    My fear is his frequency of sex is because he wants a baby, not because he desires me. I've talked with him, he doesn't get it. I post this and I hear a lot of positive responses from women who have been in the same situation. And then I hear from others like yourself who are telling me I have issues. I think we all have issues, no need to judge.
    No judgment.  Let's say the frequency of sex is because he wants a baby.  With you.  What's the problem?
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    lizzybt said:

    I'm pretty late to the party, but here are my thoughts:

    Putting the weight of your self-opinion on another person is a bit unfair.  It's a heavy weight.  Some days my husband wants to have sex.  Sometimes he doesn't.  Am I just as hot and sexy on the days he doesn't?  Damn right I am.  His level of desire for me on a given day has no actual bearing on my self-worth, not because I don't value his desire, but because my self-worth is in my own head.  I'm responsible for it and I maintain it.  It doesn't matter what "normal" couples do, because that has nothing to do with us either.  We do what we do and it's fabulous because it's us.

    I don't know anything about you other than what you've written here, but I'm going to suggest that you enter counseling to be able to draw a division between your husband's desire and your desirability.  They are not related.  Maybe you go as a couple, maybe by yourself.  Either way, I think it would benefit your situation.

    If you're not having enough sex because you like sex and want to have more, address that with your husband.  If you're not having enough sex because sex is how you feel validated and you need it to know that you're worthy as a human, that's a lot of pressure to put on your husband.

    I wish you the best.

    That isn't where I was going with it at all. But thanks for trying


    Look, it's pretty simple.  You want your husband to do certain things (initiate sex) to make you feel a certain way (desired).  When he does, you don't care for it because it isn't making you feel the way you want.  That's a problem with you, not him.  And the more you go on about it, the more I wonder whether there is any reasonable solution for it.  Apparently having less sex doesn't help.  Having more sex doesn't help.  It seems that he's in a lose-lose situation here, and that problem won't be solved without communication between you and your husband. 

    And no, I don't mean nagging.

    My fear is his frequency of sex is because he wants a baby, not because he desires me. I've talked with him, he doesn't get it. I post this and I hear a lot of positive responses from women who have been in the same situation. And then I hear from others like yourself who are telling me I have issues. I think we all have issues, no need to judge.
    No judgment.  Let's say the frequency of sex is because he wants a baby.  With you.  What's the problem?
    I see where you are coming from, and if one only saw your side they would think I was being silly, much like you must be thinking now. My problem is that we never had sex this often so he's not doing it because he wants to have sex with me, he wants because he wants a baby. Basically using me. Which brings me back to the whole thing I originally said, why not just cut to the chase and do insemination. For someone who is having sex let's say once a week probably feels desired and increasing their sex by say twice a week probably doesn't mean much. But when you go from having sex once a month to a couple times a week that is over load. I'd be scared once we got pregnant things would go back to how they were thus confirming he was just using me. Not that I mean that in a bad way, because in reality aren't we all using each other when it comes to sex? whether it's sexual gratification or to have a baby. I just don't know how else to put it. So saying the word "using" makes him sound like a terrible person. I'm a control freak and I over analyze a lot. 
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    lizzybt said:
    lizzybt said:

    I'm pretty late to the party, but here are my thoughts:

    Putting the weight of your self-opinion on another person is a bit unfair.  It's a heavy weight.  Some days my husband wants to have sex.  Sometimes he doesn't.  Am I just as hot and sexy on the days he doesn't?  Damn right I am.  His level of desire for me on a given day has no actual bearing on my self-worth, not because I don't value his desire, but because my self-worth is in my own head.  I'm responsible for it and I maintain it.  It doesn't matter what "normal" couples do, because that has nothing to do with us either.  We do what we do and it's fabulous because it's us.

    I don't know anything about you other than what you've written here, but I'm going to suggest that you enter counseling to be able to draw a division between your husband's desire and your desirability.  They are not related.  Maybe you go as a couple, maybe by yourself.  Either way, I think it would benefit your situation.

    If you're not having enough sex because you like sex and want to have more, address that with your husband.  If you're not having enough sex because sex is how you feel validated and you need it to know that you're worthy as a human, that's a lot of pressure to put on your husband.

    I wish you the best.

    That isn't where I was going with it at all. But thanks for trying


    Look, it's pretty simple.  You want your husband to do certain things (initiate sex) to make you feel a certain way (desired).  When he does, you don't care for it because it isn't making you feel the way you want.  That's a problem with you, not him.  And the more you go on about it, the more I wonder whether there is any reasonable solution for it.  Apparently having less sex doesn't help.  Having more sex doesn't help.  It seems that he's in a lose-lose situation here, and that problem won't be solved without communication between you and your husband. 

    And no, I don't mean nagging.

    My fear is his frequency of sex is because he wants a baby, not because he desires me. I've talked with him, he doesn't get it. I post this and I hear a lot of positive responses from women who have been in the same situation. And then I hear from others like yourself who are telling me I have issues. I think we all have issues, no need to judge.
    No judgment.  Let's say the frequency of sex is because he wants a baby.  With you.  What's the problem?
    I see where you are coming from, and if one only saw your side they would think I was being silly, much like you must be thinking now. My problem is that we never had sex this often so he's not doing it because he wants to have sex with me, he wants because he wants a baby. Basically using me. Which brings me back to the whole thing I originally said, why not just cut to the chase and do insemination. For someone who is having sex let's say once a week probably feels desired and increasing their sex by say twice a week probably doesn't mean much. But when you go from having sex once a month to a couple times a week that is over load. I'd be scared once we got pregnant things would go back to how they were thus confirming he was just using me. Not that I mean that in a bad way, because in reality aren't we all using each other when it comes to sex? whether it's sexual gratification or to have a baby. I just don't know how else to put it. So saying the word "using" makes him sound like a terrible person. I'm a control freak and I over analyze a lot. 
    Okay, so you've discussed this with him, and he doesn't get it. So maybe it's because he actually DOES want to have sex with you.

    If every other aspect of your marriage is amazing and great, why now do you think he's lying to you? 

    Regardless of your answer to that, I think this is a more deep rooted issue that needs to be discussed with you, your husband, and a therapist. 


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    lizzybt said:
    No judgment.  Let's say the frequency of sex is because he wants a baby.  With you.  What's the problem?
    I see where you are coming from, and if one only saw your side they would think I was being silly, much like you must be thinking now. My problem is that we never had sex this often so he's not doing it because he wants to have sex with me, he wants because he wants a baby. Basically using me. Which brings me back to the whole thing I originally said, why not just cut to the chase and do insemination. For someone who is having sex let's say once a week probably feels desired and increasing their sex by say twice a week probably doesn't mean much. But when you go from having sex once a month to a couple times a week that is over load. I'd be scared once we got pregnant things would go back to how they were thus confirming he was just using me. Not that I mean that in a bad way, because in reality aren't we all using each other when it comes to sex? whether it's sexual gratification or to have a baby. I just don't know how else to put it. So saying the word "using" makes him sound like a terrible person. I'm a control freak and I over analyze a lot. 

    Unless he plans to take the baby and run away, he's not "using" you.  You're jointly having a child and growing your family.  You two.  Together.  Yes, the word "using" does make it sounds like you think he's a terrible person.  My husband and I have sex more regularly when we're TTC, but not once have I wondered if one of us was being "used".  We're both just doing what makes more sense.  More sex = more chances to get pregnant.

    Also, from someone who has had a child: if you have a baby, it is extremely likely your sex life will take a major hit.  Whatever you were having before will probably look like a TON after baby comes. 


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    lizzybt said:
    No judgment.  Let's say the frequency of sex is because he wants a baby.  With you.  What's the problem?
    I see where you are coming from, and if one only saw your side they would think I was being silly, much like you must be thinking now. My problem is that we never had sex this often so he's not doing it because he wants to have sex with me, he wants because he wants a baby. Basically using me. Which brings me back to the whole thing I originally said, why not just cut to the chase and do insemination. For someone who is having sex let's say once a week probably feels desired and increasing their sex by say twice a week probably doesn't mean much. But when you go from having sex once a month to a couple times a week that is over load. I'd be scared once we got pregnant things would go back to how they were thus confirming he was just using me. Not that I mean that in a bad way, because in reality aren't we all using each other when it comes to sex? whether it's sexual gratification or to have a baby. I just don't know how else to put it. So saying the word "using" makes him sound like a terrible person. I'm a control freak and I over analyze a lot. 

    Unless he plans to take the baby and run away, he's not "using" you.  You're jointly having a child and growing your family.  You two.  Together.  Yes, the word "using" does make it sounds like you think he's a terrible person.  My husband and I have sex more regularly when we're TTC, but not once have I wondered if one of us was being "used".  We're both just doing what makes more sense.  More sex = more chances to get pregnant.

    Also, from someone who has had a child: if you have a baby, it is extremely likely your sex life will take a major hit.  Whatever you were having before will probably look like a TON after baby comes. 


    bsckgb7 said:
    I'd like to spin this another direction.  I am going through the IUI process, OP.  I have to wake my husband up in the morning, make him put on a fancy condom and have sex on command.  I then have to rush and get dressed and race to the RE (no cuddling now).  Don't you think he feels "used" under that same circumstances?  I just need him to do his thing in a cup so I can race to the doctor.  

    Similarly my friend had to leave work early, and have her husband come home at lunch for the same purpose.  They have x amount of time to do the deed so she can drive it to the doctors.  You don't think both of them feel used, that they are coming home for the sole purpose of getting a specimen and not because they want to enjoy each other?  She actually said to me "I feel like a $2 whore".  Wham, Bam, Thank you Ma'am and back to work they go.  

    So please don't act like IUI is the great and wonderful process that will solve everything.  
    Wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else.... Different things work for different people. And due to MY PERSONAL experience that was an idea of mine that might help ME. Sorry if it isn't working for YOU
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    Honestly, strangers on the internet won't be able to answer it for you... Not just talking at your husband, but communicating with is going to resolve this. You need to have an open honest conversation with each other about how you *both* feel, and what you *both* want. Lack of sex won't end a marriage (lol, we didn't have sex for a month and a half before we got married, we were both too strung out on the work for the wedding - spoiler, he married me anyway!) but not communicating, or wanting disparate things from the relationship is when things start running into trouble.

    Before TTC We ranged anywhere from daily to monthly. Sometimes life happens. Or ... adulting is hard, and wears one or both of out by the end of the day. Even when it's once a month I know, absolutely KNOW that my husband loves me, finds me sexy, and in theory would want to... It's just the "in theory" doesn't always translate to "he stayed up long enough I was done with class work, I had enough energy left and we didn't fall asleep talking / cuddling"

    We've been making an effort to make sure we get to the sex part since we've been TTC, and honestly - it isn't as good.   Some nights one of us is a little off (or both.) So we are having more *quantity* of sex, but less quality.

    He may be in that camp, where he would rather have good sex, where you are both feeling it, than sex for the sake of sex.

    It may even be that he wasn't initiating because he didn't think it would be welcomed. You starting it signals him you are... I know I get that from my husband sometimes!




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    bsckgb7 said:
    I didn't say it wasn't working for me.  I was just giving you an opinion on IUI, since you indicated that you thought it help with the sense of "feeling used".  You seem awfully defensive?  
    Yeah sorry, I've just gotten a lot of attacks on here and your post came off that way as if you were trying to tell it's not all rainbows and to appreciate that I don't have to IUI... I just don't want the only reason we are having sex is to have a baby, we aren't animals
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    He's definitely a quality over quantity guy. That makes sense... thanks! allisun29 said:


    Honestly, strangers on the internet won't be able to answer it for you... Not just talking at your husband, but communicating with is going to resolve this. You need to have an open honest conversation with each other about how you *both* feel, and what you *both* want. Lack of sex won't end a marriage (lol, we didn't have sex for a month and a half before we got married, we were both too strung out on the work for the wedding - spoiler, he married me anyway!) but not communicating, or wanting disparate things from the relationship is when things start running into trouble.

    Before TTC We ranged anywhere from daily to monthly. Sometimes life happens. Or ... adulting is hard, and wears one or both of out by the end of the day. Even when it's once a month I know, absolutely KNOW that my husband loves me, finds me sexy, and in theory would want to... It's just the "in theory" doesn't always translate to "he stayed up long enough I was done with class work, I had enough energy left and we didn't fall asleep talking / cuddling"

    We've been making an effort to make sure we get to the sex part since we've been TTC, and honestly - it isn't as good.   Some nights one of us is a little off (or both.) So we are having more *quantity* of sex, but less quality.

    He may be in that camp, where he would rather have good sex, where you are both feeling it, than sex for the sake of sex.

    It may even be that he wasn't initiating because he didn't think it would be welcomed. You starting it signals him you are... I know I get that from my husband sometimes!


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    edited October 2015
    lizzybt said:


    bsckgb7 said:

    I didn't say it wasn't working for me.  I was just giving you an opinion on IUI, since you indicated that you thought it help with the sense of "feeling used".  You seem awfully defensive?  

    Yeah sorry, I've just gotten a lot of attacks on here and your post came off that way as if you were trying to tell it's not all rainbows and to appreciate that I don't have to IUI... I just don't want the only reason we are having sex is to have a baby, we aren't animals

    I think perhaps what is getting lost in translation is- how are u distinguishing sex to have a baby from normal sex? Honestly I'm not asking to be snarky- I legitimately don't understand. Like is ur husband saying "let's have baby making sex" as foreplay or something or are u just now interpreting all sex as "sex to have a baby" because u have made the decision to try to conceive? Again let me be perfectly clear that I'm not being snarky or rude, I just really want to understand where ur coming from. Edited for spelling
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    lizzybt said:
    I see where you are coming from, and if one only saw your side they would think I was being silly, much like you must be thinking now. My problem is that we never had sex this often so he's not doing it because he wants to have sex with me, he wants because he wants a baby. Basically using me. Which brings me back to the whole thing I originally said, why not just cut to the chase and do insemination. For someone who is having sex let's say once a week probably feels desired and increasing their sex by say twice a week probably doesn't mean much. But when you go from having sex once a month to a couple times a week that is over load. I'd be scared once we got pregnant things would go back to how they were thus confirming he was just using me. Not that I mean that in a bad way, because in reality aren't we all using each other when it comes to sex? whether it's sexual gratification or to have a baby. I just don't know how else to put it. So saying the word "using" makes him sound like a terrible person. I'm a control freak and I over analyze a lot. 
    No, absolutely not, sex is not about using each other.  Based on that comment, you guys definitely need counseling if this is how you are viewing your sexual relationship. :(

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    bsckgb7 said:
    I didn't say it wasn't working for me.  I was just giving you an opinion on IUI, since you indicated that you thought it help with the sense of "feeling used".  You seem awfully defensive?  
    Yeah sorry, I've just gotten a lot of attacks on here and your post came off that way as if you were trying to tell it's not all rainbows and to appreciate that I don't have to IUI... I just don't want the only reason we are having sex is to have a baby, we aren't animals
    I think perhaps what is getting lost in translation is- how are u distinguishing sex to have a baby from normal sex? Honestly I'm not asking to be snarky- I legitimately don't understand. Like is ur husband saying "let's have baby making sex" as foreplay or something or are u just now interpreting all sex as "sex to have a baby" because u have made the decision to try to conceive? Again let me be perfectly clear that I'm not being snarky or rude, I just really want to understand where ur coming from. Edited for spelling
    I'm interpreting all sex as TTC because as I said before, we were doing it once a month so the only rational reason for the increased frequency is TTC but what I'm getting at is why now? He had 6.5 years to have sex with me as much as he wanted and the only reason he is doing it for a baby then I assume it will go back to our old once a month once i do get pregnant 
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    lizzybt said:
    bsckgb7 said:
    I didn't say it wasn't working for me.  I was just giving you an opinion on IUI, since you indicated that you thought it help with the sense of "feeling used".  You seem awfully defensive?  
    Yeah sorry, I've just gotten a lot of attacks on here and your post came off that way as if you were trying to tell it's not all rainbows and to appreciate that I don't have to IUI... I just don't want the only reason we are having sex is to have a baby, we aren't animals
    I think perhaps what is getting lost in translation is- how are u distinguishing sex to have a baby from normal sex? Honestly I'm not asking to be snarky- I legitimately don't understand. Like is ur husband saying "let's have baby making sex" as foreplay or something or are u just now interpreting all sex as "sex to have a baby" because u have made the decision to try to conceive? Again let me be perfectly clear that I'm not being snarky or rude, I just really want to understand where ur coming from. Edited for spelling
    I'm interpreting all sex as TTC because as I said before, we were doing it once a month so the only rational reason for the increased frequency is TTC but what I'm getting at is why now? He had 6.5 years to have sex with me as much as he wanted and the only reason he is doing it for a baby then I assume it will go back to our old once a month once i do get pregnant 
    It likely will.  He's stepped up the amount you have sex to help you make a baby.  But the amount you had it before is what is natural for him.  If you can deal with this, great.  If not, you know what you have to do.  It isn't fair to tell him, in effect "I love you, except this part of you I completely can't accept, even though it has been this way all along."  What exactly is he supposed to do?  There is literally no way out of this for him. 
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    Anyone want to tell me if there is a way to delete this post? I've gotten some advice from some nice ladies and others are just being rude while others are new to the discussion and trying to get caught up, and I really am sick of reexplaining myself. Thanks in advance!! 
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    lizzybt said:

    Anyone want to tell me if there is a way to delete this post? I've gotten some advice from some nice ladies and others are just being rude while others are new to the discussion and trying to get caught up, and I really am sick of reexplaining myself. Thanks in advance!! 

    You can't delete.
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    ShallowSeasShallowSeas member
    edited October 2015
    lizzybt said:
    Anyone want to tell me if there is a way to delete this post? I've gotten some advice from some nice ladies and others are just being rude while others are new to the discussion and trying to get caught up, and I really am sick of reexplaining myself. Thanks in advance!! 
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    edited October 2015
    lizzybt said:
    Anyone want to tell me if there is a way to delete this post? I've gotten some advice from some nice ladies and others are just being rude while others are new to the discussion and trying to get caught up, and I really am sick of reexplaining myself. Thanks in advance!! 

    There is no way to delete a post.

    ETA: The ladies here are pretty common sense, and nobody has been rude.  They've asked questions and requested some explanations, but that is natural.  You have a complicated situation. 

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    lizzybt said:
    bsckgb7 said:
    I didn't say it wasn't working for me.  I was just giving you an opinion on IUI, since you indicated that you thought it help with the sense of "feeling used".  You seem awfully defensive?  
    Yeah sorry, I've just gotten a lot of attacks on here and your post came off that way as if you were trying to tell it's not all rainbows and to appreciate that I don't have to IUI... I just don't want the only reason we are having sex is to have a baby, we aren't animals
    @lizzybt OMG NO ONE HAS ATTACKED YOU. If anything you've gotten a lot of very thoughtful, sincere advice. My goodness, this gets up in my craw and aggrevates me.
    @primrose then unfollow this, are these your bffs because I've gotten some messages from a few ladies telling me you have a "posse" that follows you around and I'm noticing a theme with some of them. I'm not here for drama I was looking for advice or if others felt the same and clearly some do. The moment I can figure out how to take this down I'm doing it. 
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    lizzybt said:

    Anyone want to tell me if there is a way to delete this post? I've gotten some advice from some nice ladies and others are just being rude while others are new to the discussion and trying to get caught up, and I really am sick of reexplaining myself. Thanks in advance!! 

    Are you referring to me? I've read all the pages, I'm not just jumping into this. You haven't answered the question of what he can do to fix this in the present day. If you just wanted to vent, that's one thing. But it would be helpful to note that at the beginning to save people time.
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