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Naming advice from Christian mama's?

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Re: Naming advice from Christian mama's?

  • Nunuu said:

    @lalala2004 they have the same titles, sure, but the words and stories are very different :)

    They are both translated from the exact same Hebrew books. Translations may be different, but they have the same source. I know the Qu'ran is different, but the Torah and the first 5 books on the Old Testament are the same Hebrew texts.
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  • Don't know what to tell you guys. Studied this for quite awhile in undergrad and I can tell you that the the first five books of the Old Testament are based on the Torah, but they are different. They did not copy and paste the Torah and include it with the rest of the books :)

    Also not sure how to tackle the "it's not canon" part, as I'm obviously Muslim. To me the Quran is the inerrant and only incorrupted words of God. The Christina bible is heavily influenced and changed by history and man (through translation and copies and wars and rulers...) and the Quran has never had a single word changed since its revelation. The earliest copies (dating to the time of the prophet) use the same exact words. Plus, it's been memorized since day one since its a giant poem.
  • Christian momma-to-be here!

    I like the name as well! My only thought of caution would be that other kids in his Sunday school (or other environment) may tease him. (although it would be a good learning opportunity for those kids!!) I think an alternate spelling would also help.
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  • Nunuu said:

    Cain is already a different spelling because in Hebrew his name was Qayin (actually without vowels because no vowels were used traditionally) so Cain is the English re rendering. It's also a pun linguistically (as most biblical names were) and is derived from metalsmith, which alludes to his work as a farmer.

    Also:

    That aside, I am not Christian, but I am a person of faith , and I cannot get around the whole "he committed the first sin on earth" thing. But most of the Old Testament is ignored anyways, so if you're in love with the name, go for it

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    aamm04 said:

    (BTW, you do know Cain/the Old Testament are part of the Jewish and Muslim faiths right, it will have implications to a wider group

    Technically the Old Testament is not a part of either faith. Some stories have the same characters but the stories are pretty different and they all have separate books. People of the Jewish faith have the Torah, Muslims have the Quran. And like I mentioned earlier, Jews would know it by a different spelling and in the Quran neither of the brothers are mentioned by name.
    Qayin obviously isn't the true spelling either since Hebrew does not use Roman letters. So any roman spelling isn't the true spelling.
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  • Thanks for responding @dshannah since apparently my not studying this in college means I don't know it, as @Nunuu implied. Is your PhD in religious studies?
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  • dshannahdshannah member
    edited October 2015
    @lalala2004 Yes! :) In Religious Studies with a specialty in History of Christianity, but since my time period is late antiquity we need to do a lot of work in Judaism and early Islam.
  • I thought of Cain as a name for my baby but my friend just named her baby Abel and they will end up playing together one day... And it would be really awkward to yell "Cain stop hurting Abel".
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  • I know this was from a long time ago and the kid is already probably 10 years old, but h came across this post while looking for name ideas for my August 2025 baby and thought I would answer to help other moms out there. Namin your son Cain or, as I was considering, Cain as a middle name, would be almost like naming your daughter Delilah, and most people wouldn’t bat an eye to a little girl named Delilah. As long as you don’t associate a negative connotation to you son then it should be fine.
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