FASD does not occur only with large, consistent amounts. My apologies for being on my phone and not beig able to provide the textual evidence currently. It certainly is more severe in those cases but FASD is believed to damage the most when the drinking is within a "risk" window. And no one knows when each mother/babies risk window is. So more drinking = more likelihood of targeting that risk window. Other factors (genetic, proverty, etc) also believe to increase risks... And FASD is a spectrum disorder... Many researchers believe it to be extremely undiagnosed and kiddos are dx'd with comorbid issues (ADHD, sensory issues, etc) and FASD isn't the only concern. Prenatal alcohol exposure signifigantly increases the risk of SIDS. No judgement for anyone, just education from a FASD mama
I get both sides; I'm on the not drinking side though, and no there's no definite studies. They can't look at a woman and say go get drink, see what happens to your baby. I stopped taking anti depressants (and it's been a struggle) because they think it could cause a congenital defect, and I'm not willing to risk it, with my luck I could sniff a beer and my baby would have 7 eyes but be completely blind. But all y'all ladies need to stop arguing. What's gonna happen in 5 months? Were going to fight over meds vs natural, and lord, I can't wait for the circumcision debates....
This is from the CDC "FASDs are caused by a woman drinking alcohol during pregnancy. Alcohol in the mother’s blood passes to the baby through the umbilical cord. When a woman drinks alcohol, so does her baby.
There is no known safe amount of alcohol during pregnancy or when trying to get pregnant. There is also no safe time to drink during pregnancy. Alcohol can cause problems for a developing baby throughout pregnancy, including before a woman knows she’s pregnant. All types of alcohol are equally harmful, including all wines and beer." I'm not much of a drinker anyway (i actually have a kind of allergic reaction to it i get covered in hives every time i drink no matter what i drink) so going the next year or more (i plan on breastfeeding) with out alcohol is not a big deal to me. The way i look at it if there's a chance it could cause my baby to have to struggle like that the rest of their life then I'm not going to do it I'm not going to risk it for my babys sake. When it comes to my child I'd rather be safe then sorry.
Better safe than sorry. Don't ride in a car then. Ever.
....I'm not so sure that's the same thing. Maybe if you were to say "don't ride in a car with someone who's been drinking. Ever." That may have been a little bit more like the situation where you're putting alcohol into a child's developing body.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
No ones saying its a problem. It's just not necessary. You are not my doctor, please don't presume to tell me that you know better than he does.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
No ones saying its a problem. It's just not necessary. You are not my doctor, please don't presume to tell me that you know better than he does.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
Please refrain from eating all processes fm foods, riding in cars, walking down the street, watching a thunderstorm, they all have risks.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
Please refrain from eating all processes fm foods, riding in cars, walking down the street, watching a thunderstorm, they all have risks.
Oh please...I'm not ridiculous. I realize other everyday things pose risks. I think we're comparing apples and oranges here. If you don't have the self control to not drink while pregnant, you have bigger problems.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
I'm with you 100% on this. I understand pregnancy can be uncomfortable and giving up things that you want is not always fun..but that's life. It's part of being a good parent.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
So any risk is a risk? Following that logic, you should wrap yourself on bubble wrap and not leave the house.
According to my doctor, and many other doctors, both in the United States and across Europe, there is no risk to consuming a glass of wine a few times a week. We aren't talking about people getting hammered here.
I'm willing to to bet the crap a lot of people put in their bodies is far worse than my organic red wine. (Case in point, the raging epidemic of diabetes in this country). So go ahead and stuff yourself full of sugar, processed garbage and fast food, but judge me. Lol.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
Please refrain from eating all processes fm foods, riding in cars, walking down the street, watching a thunderstorm, they all have risks.
Oh please...I'm not ridiculous. I realize other everyday things pose risks. I think we're comparing apples and oranges here. If you don't have the self control to not drink while pregnant, you have bigger problems.
The problem with this discussion is that the "have a drink" side is talking about having an occasional 1/2 glass of goddamn wine. The "pearl-clutchy" side is acting like we're talking about raging on hard liquor. That is the apples to oranges argument. Too bad it's like talking to a robotic brick wall up in here.
And the "No Amount of Alcohol during pregnancy has been proven safe." In Emily Oster's words, that same argument could be applied to most everything including Category A Unisom, bananas, and water, for that matter.
My head hurts just reading this...really starting to dislike this group as a whole. If there is any risk to your child, just don't partake. It's very very simple. It is not hard to NOT drink for the duration of your pregnancy. Any risk is a risk.
So any risk is a risk? Following that logic, you should wrap yourself on bubble wrap and not leave the house.
According to my doctor, and many other doctors, both in the United States and across Europe, there is no risk to consuming a glass of wine a few times a week. We aren't talking about people getting hammered here.
I'm willing to to bet the crap a lot of people put in their bodies is far worse than my organic red wine. (Case in point, the raging epidemic of diabetes in this country). So go ahead and stuff yourself full of sugar, processed garbage and fast food, but judge me. Lol.
I was just pointing out that these moms who feel that they need a drink while pregnant may want to reconsider. You know nothing about my diet, lol. Now we are just getting nitpicky. There are enough things that are out of our control that could potentially harm our babies..I'm just saying why add one more thing.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
No ones saying its a problem. It's just not necessary. You are not my doctor, please don't presume to tell me that you know better than he does.
It sounds like you need a new doctor!
You serious, Clark? Multiple doctors have stated this across the world.
Not trying to start a huge argument...I just think it's funny that this board is supposed to be a safe place to state opinions and yet everyone insists on getting upset.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
I'm with you 100% on this. I understand pregnancy can be uncomfortable and giving up things that you want is not always fun..but that's life. It's part of being a good parent.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
I'm with you 100% on this. I understand pregnancy can be uncomfortable and giving up things that you want is not always fun..but that's life. It's part of being a good parent.
So if you drink wine you aren't a good parent?
I'm not saying that as a parent it's wrong to drink ever.. I'm just saying that is isn't that hard to refrain while pregnant.
I'm with @carpetmatchesdrapes Is it reeeaaallly that hard not to have a drink for 10 months? If that's a problem for you, you're going to have an awful hard time with all the other things in life you give up when you become a parent. Guise, just don't drink.
I'm with you 100% on this. I understand pregnancy can be uncomfortable and giving up things that you want is not always fun..but that's life. It's part of being a good parent.
So if you drink wine you aren't a good parent?
I'm not saying that as a parent it's wrong to drink ever.. I'm just saying that is isn't that hard to refrain while pregnant.
For the 1,267,834.5th time, no one said it was hard, just not necessary. I think everyone here needs a drink.
Do what you feel in your heart to be right- for you'll be criticized anyway - Eleanor Roosevelt
Basically, each to their own and don't judge others based on your own standards. If you don't think drinking is right, then don't drink. If you are comfortable having the odd glass of wine, go right ahead. I had an undercooked egg today, I'm fine with that. So unless someone is out smoking crack and having unprotected sex with random strange men which is obviously recklessly damaging the baby's health, don't be throwing the term 'bad mother' around. It's threads like this that cause women to needlessly feel like they are failing at parenting.
OP has never said she 'needs' to drink, she asked if you can do it because she misses the taste of certain alcoholic drinks and doesn't want the alcohol content, bit of a difference.
Why risk it? There are no compelling responses in this thread to do so (including the empty comparisons between drinking alcohol while pregnant and riding in a car...) Just because someone consumed alcohol during their previous pregnancies and nothing bad happened is like saying I pulled the trigger twice and the chamber was empty so it must be ok to do it again. The evidence is stacked high against it and those who say there are none are in denial. Do what you please but don't falsify the facts. Again, why risk it?
Why risk it? There are no compelling responses in this thread to do so (including the empty comparisons between drinking alcohol while pregnant and riding in a car...) Just because someone consumed alcohol during their previous pregnancies and nothing bad happened is like saying I pulled the trigger twice and the chamber was empty so it must be ok to do it again. The evidence is stacked high against it and those who say there are none are in denial. Do what you please but don't falsify the facts. Again, why risk it?
Show me where someone falsified data? I think people were just stating they trusted their doctors. No one said it is 100% certain nothing will be wrong with your baby if you drink.
Re: Drinking wine/liquor
Can you go nine months without eating sugar, fast food, processed food or other crap?
I'm fairly confident you cannot find a reputable study that says a few glasses of wine will cause FASD
According to my doctor, and many other doctors, both in the United States and across Europe, there is no risk to consuming a glass of wine a few times a week. We aren't talking about people getting hammered here.
I'm willing to to bet the crap a lot of people put in their bodies is far worse than my organic red wine. (Case in point, the raging epidemic of diabetes in this country). So go ahead and stuff yourself full of sugar, processed garbage and fast food, but judge me. Lol.
Basically, each to their own and don't judge others based on your own standards. If you don't think drinking is right, then don't drink. If you are comfortable having the odd glass of wine, go right ahead. I had an undercooked egg today, I'm fine with that. So unless someone is out smoking crack and having unprotected sex with random strange men which is obviously recklessly damaging the baby's health, don't be throwing the term 'bad mother' around. It's threads like this that cause women to needlessly feel like they are failing at parenting.